Venice
November 1522

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'Venice: November 1522', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3: 1520-1526 (1869), pp. 284-289. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=94354 Date accessed: 16 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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November 1522

Nov. 6. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 452.575. Alvise Gradenigo to the Signory.
The plague continues. The Pope has again written to England and the Emperor in excellent form concerning the agreement with the Signory.
Rome, 5th and 6th November. Registered by Sanuto, 11th Nov.
Note by Sanuto:—In the afternoon the Senate sat. The Sages proposed a letter to the Signory's ambassador in Rome, desiring him to thank the Pope for the briefs written to Spain and England. They also moved for a letter to the ambassador in England. Carried.
[Italian.]
Nov. 6. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 444.576. Embassy to England.
Motion made in the Senate by the Sages for the appointment of an ambassador to England. (fn. 1)
Scrutiny for an ambassador to England in the room of Lodovico Falier, who has refused. Elected, Zuan Antonio Yenier, one of the Ten Sages.
Order of the Ballot:—
Ayes.Noes.
Marco Gradenigo, LL.D., late member of the Senate69129
Bertuccio Soranzo, late “Auditor vecchio58141
Santo Moro, LL.D., late member of the Senate66131
Marco Contarini, late State Attorney (Avogador)80112
Hironimo Polani, LL.D., late member of the Senate70127
Silvestro Memo, “Proveditor di comun65135
Carlo Capello, late “Auditor novo51147
Gabriel Venier, late State Attorney90106
Agustin da Cà da Pesaro, late “Auditor novo78117
Cristofal Capello, late member of the Senate40154
Troian Bollani41160
Zuan Basadonna, LL.D., late member of the Senate71117
Francesco Morosini, LL.D.58130
Marco Contarini, late Treasurer (Camerlengo di comun)95103
Carlo Contarini83103
Zuan Antonio Venier, one of the Ten Sages11283
Marco Lando, late Captain in Candia66113
Lorenzo di Priuli9795
Andrea di Priuli, LL.D.73112
Giustinian Contarini, member of the Senate73114
Nicolò da Ponte, LL.D., late member of the Senate, Lecturer in philosophy57141
[Italian.]
Nov. 6. Senato Mar. v. xx. p. 48.577. Election of an Ambassador to England.
Motion made in the Senate. Whereas, owing to the refusal of Lodovico Falier to go ambassador to England, it was decreed by the Senate on the 16 September, to appoint an ambassador in his stead; and whereas it is fitting to take pity on Giovanni Badoer, ambassador in France. Put to the ballot, that after the election of an ambassador to England, a nobleman be elected to replace Badoer.
Ayes, 166. Noes, 20. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 10 lines.]
Nov. 6. Senato Terra, v. xxii. p. 132, tergo.578. Embassy to England.
Whereas, according to the Act passed in the Senate on 16th September, an ambassador is to be elected in the room of Lodovico Falier, who has refused; and whereas it is fit to show the customary courtesy towards Zuan Badoer, ambassador in France, whose plight is such as the Council has just heard:
Put to the ballot,—that after the election of an ambassador to England, a Venetian nobleman be elected in lieu of Zuan Badoer, on the same terms (120 ducats per month) as Lorenzo Bragadin, who went as captain to Brescia.
Ayes, 166. Noes, 20. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 11 lines.]
Nov. 7. Contarini's Original Letter Book, Letter no. 189, St. Mark's Library.579. Gasparo Contarini to the Signory.
Account of his negotiations with the Imperial ministers. Sketches the character of the Chancellor Gattinara. He is very affable and courteous, has great authority with the Emperor, and is a bitter enemy to the French, his politics being the reverse of those professed by Mons. de Chièvres. He is rather sophistical and confused in his doings, (fn. 2) but extremely fortunate in his designs.
On All Saints' Day the Emperor appeared on a stage erected in the market place of Valladolid, accompanied by all the Castilian grandees. He caused 300 persons, who had headed the revolutionary commons of Castille, to be proclaimed rebels. Their estates, which have been confiscated, are expected to yield upwards of two millions of gold, as among these individuals were some whose incomes ranged from 10,000 to 12,000 ducats a year. The Emperor issued a second proclamation, pardoning all the other members of the Junta in Castille, much to the satisfaction of the commons.
Has visited the two ambassadors from England [Sir Thomas Boleyn and Dr. Sampson]. (fn. 3) They received him graciously, but are altogether hot for the war. Sees no sign of peace in that quarter. The Comendador of Castile has a similar belief concerning the intention of the King of England.
Valladolid, 7th November 1522.
Memorandum:—Forwarded triplicates of the foregoing on the 11th, with a few additional lines, apologizing for the omission of two paragraphs in the original concerning the English ambassadors and the supplies destined for Fonterabia.
[Italian, 6 pages.]
Nov. 8. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 446.580. Richard Pace in Venice. This morning the ambassadors from the Emperor and the King of England went into the College together, to say that the report still circulated of the coming of the French into Italy, and that therefore the Signoiy was to beware of supplying them with provisions.
[Italian.]
Nov. 11. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. pp. 453–454.581. Embassy to England. Scrutiny for an ambassador to England in the room of Zuan Antonio Venier, who has refused. Elected, Lorenzo di Priuli, a young man of letters (homo studente et zovene). He and Marco Contarini had the same number of ballots; but when reballoted, Priuli obtained a majority.
Order of the Ballot:—Ayes.Noes.
Marco Antonio Michiel40148
Silvestro Memo, “Proveditor di comun66129
Nicolò da Ponte, LL.D., late of the Senate, Lecturer in philosophy67133
Giustinian Contarini, member of the Senate65122
Zuan Basadonna, LL.D., late one of the “X. Sages”72123
Lorenzo di Priuli9989
Marco Antonio Sanuto, late “Auditor novo81103
Carlo Contarini89101
Francesco Morosini, LL.D.56137
Troian Bolani51142
Hironimo Polani, LL.D., late member of the Senate78121
Marco Antonio Contarini, late “Avogador8998
Andrea de Priuli, LL.D.82106
Cristofal Capello, late member of the Senate43140
Marco Gradenigo, LL.D., late member of the Senate68127
Agustin da Cà da Pesaro, late “Auditor novo72122
Marco Lando, late Captain in Candia64137
Alvise Morosini23165
Carlo Capello, late “Auditor novo53135
Marco Contarini, late Treasurer, (Camerlengo di comun)9989
Reballoted—
Lorenzo di Priuli11175
Marco Contarini, late Treasurer9890
[Italian.]
Nov. 11. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlix. p. 136.582. The Doge and Senate to Antonio Surian, Ambassador in England.
Have received his letters of 28th September and 5th October, respecting the Pope's briefs to the King and Cardinal for the release of the Signory's galleys. Have thanked the Pope, who ordered that the briefs should be repeated in the strongest and most ample form, for the purpose of effecting the release of all the three galleys. Write about this matter to the King and Cardinal. To do his best to effect the release.
Send the copy of a Papal brief to the Legate in Venice concerning the Christian expedition (in materia rei Christiance), that he may read it to the King and Cardinal.
Ayes, 185. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 28 lines.]
Nov. 11. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlix. p. 136, tergo.583. Doge Antonio Grimani to Henry VIII.
Urging the King to grant the Venetian galleys detained in England free and full power to return home with all their gear, guns, and merchandise.
Ayes, 185. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.
[Latin, 37 lines.]
Nov. 11. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlix. p. 136, tergo.584. The Same to Cardinal Wolsey.
Wrote fully to the King and Cardinal on 30th July for the release of the Venetian galleys. Repeats the demand. Loss to the masters of the galleys, the merchants, and their crews. Hopes that permission for them to depart from England will be granted through the authority and favour enjoyed by the Cardinal with the King.
Ayes, 185. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.
[Latin, 14 lines.]
Nov. 13. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 457.585. Alvise Gradenigo to the Signory.
Encloses copies of the briefs written by the Pope to England for the release of the Signory's galleys.
Rome, 13th November. Registered by Sanuto, 18th November.
[Italian.]
Nov. 12. Mantuan Archives.586. Henry VIII. to Frederick, Marquis of Mantua.
The good will which subsisted between himself and the late Marquis causes him to entertain great affection for the reigning Marquis. Has received from Sir Gregory Casali an account of his virtues and desire to oblige him (King Henry). Sends him two hobbies and some hounds, which have been consigned to Casali for transmission. Wishes to know if there is anything in England he would like.
Greenwich, 12th November 1522.
(Signed) V[ostr]e cousin et amy, Henry Rex.
(Countersigned) Petrus Vannes.
[Original. Latin.]
Nov. 17. Senato Terra, v. xxii. p. 134, tergo.587. Richard Pace in Venice.
Put to the ballot that, by the authority of the Senate, the reverend ambassador of the King of England be allowed to bring into Venice four kilderkins of wine, duty free, according to the terms of the auction.
Ayes, 178. Noes, 14. Neutrals, 2.
Mem.—Permits were made out.
[Italian, 3 lines.]
Nov. 17. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 455.588. Embassy to England.
Motion made in the Senate by the Councillors, that Lorenzo di Priuli, ambassador elect to England, who has accepted, be allowed to sit in the Senate until his departure, without giving a ballot.
Carried; and he took his seat.
[Italian.]
Nov. 18. Contarini's Original Letter Book, Letter No. 190, St. Mark's Library.589. Gasparo Contarini to the Signory.
Eight delegates have come from Xativa, one of the cities of the Junta, to tender obedience to the Emperor, and to let him know that their insurrection was caused by the oppression of the Valencian aristocracy.
Archduke Ferdinand has asked the Emperor for the duchy of Milan. The request was refused. After concluding the alliance with the Signory, the Emperor intends to give to the Duke of Milan for wife the Lady Eleanor, widow of the late King of Portugal.
Told by the Chancellor that the Portuguese ambassador has offered his King's sister to the Emperor, with a dower of one million ducats, besides the dower of the Lady Eleanor, and 50,000 ducats due for moneys lent to the Emperor by the late King Emanuel. The Chancellor said the Emperor delayed giving a reply, as it is requisite first of all to get an answer from England.
The King of Portugal offers the Emperor an annual pension, provided he relinquish the spice trade. This the Emperor rejects, having destined five ships for that voyage, to put to sea in the spring. (fn. 4) On account of this spice trade, a rupture between these two crowns is anticipated.
The Emperor has heard of the arrival at the Azores of a ship from Mexico (Tenustitan), and the other places discovered by Ernardo Cortes, governor of the island of Cuba. By this ship Cortes sends gold in bars to the amount of 30,000 ducats, and wrought gold to the value of 100,000 ducats, as presents to the Emperor from the kings of those parts.
Valladolid, 18th November 1522.
[Italian, 2 pages.]
Nov. 20. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 486.590. Antonio Surian to the Signory.
Informed by Cardinal Wolsey that the Emperor is sending an ambassador to the Signory to negotiate the agreement.
Note by Sanuto.—According to [private?] letters from England, two [Venetian?] noblemen had visited Cardinal Wolsey, and were told by him there was good hope of the release of the Signory's galleys, because a person had come to Venice with commission to make an agreement, and if that were effected they would be released immediately.
London, 20th November. Registered by Sanuto, 17th December.
[Italian.]
Nov. 21. Senate Terra, v. xxii. p. 136, tergo.591. Embassy to England.
The Senate having elected as ambassador to the King of England Lorenzo de' Priuli, who has accepted willingly, it is fitting that he should go there well acquainted with passing events.
Put to the ballot,—that he may attend this Council until he goes to his said legation, not giving a ballot.
Ayes, 163. Noes, 7. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 7 lines.]
Nov. 21. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xlix. p. 138.592. The Doge and Senate to Giovanni Badoer, Ambassador in France.
Perceive by his last letters that the King of France had expressed his suspicions respecting the recent negotiations between the State and the Imperial and English ambassadors. Give an account of those negotiations. Utterly refused to attack France, as it would be a violation of their alliance with King Francis. Owing to that refusal, are unable to obtain the release of their galleys detained in England. Endure this injury for the sake of keeping faith with his most Christian Majesty.
The Emperor is sending to them Signor Hieronymo Adorno, as they have informed the French ambassador in Venice.
Ayes, 142. Noes, 43. Neutrals, 26.
[Italian, 4 pages.]
Nov. 29. Sanuto Diaries, v. xxxiii. p. 502.593. Antonio Surian to the Signory. King Henry has allowed the merchants of Venice to export their merchandise. Hopes that affairs in England will proceed favorably. Dated 29th November. Registered by Sanuto, 31st December.
[Italian.]

Footnotes

1 I transcribe the list of names to show the class of persons who canvassed the appointment of ambassador of England. Of the persons mentioned in this list, Lorenzo Priuli died Doge of Venice in 1559, and Nicolò da Ponte was also Doge at the time of his death in 1585.
2 “E un pocho sophistico et sharaglioso in le actione.”
3 Boleyn and Sampson arrived at Laredo on the 11th October 1522. (See “State Papers,” vol. VI., part V., p. 98.)
4 It is stated in Gasparo Contarini's printed report of his embassy to the Emperor, that the person appointed to command these five ships was Sebastian Cabot; but, according to a letter of Navagero's, he did not set sail from Seville until October 1525, when his squadron numbered 28 sail. Biddle shows that the voyage was deferred until April 1526.