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October 1528

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'Venice: October 1528', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 4: 1527-1533 (1871), pp. 170-174. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=94587 Date accessed: 01 September 2014.


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October 1528

Oct. 1. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 17. 351. Dom. Antonio da Castello to—.
(Private letter seen by Marin Sanuto.)
The Venetian ambassador on his way to England has arrived. He will depart on the 3rd or 4th.
From the Camp at Pavia, 1st of October. Registered by Sanuto, 4th October.
[Italian.]
Oct. 1. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 17. 352. Tomà Moro, Proveditor General, to the Signory.
The ambassador Falier, on his way to England, arrived here to-day. He remains until to-morrow, to acquaint himself with the safest road for his journey.
Pavia, 1st of October. Registered by Sanuto, 4th October.
[Italian.]
Oct. 3. Deliberazioni Senato (Secreta), v. liii. p. 86. 353. Commission from the Doge and Senate to Lodoyico Falier, appointed Ambassador to Henry VIII.
Is to go by way of France. To visit the most Christian King, and assure him of the Signory's excellent will and observance. To exhort the King to act for the depression of the common enemy, and recovery of his children. To add that he has orders to urge the King of England strenuously in favour of the League. Is to perform the like office with the King's mother and sister, with the Lord Chancellor, the Lord Steward, and the Admiral, and such other personages as indicated by the Venetian ambassador in France. On arriving in England, to apply to his predecessor and be guided by his instructions, and arrange for audience of the King, to whom he will say that continuing to bear his Majesty that affection and reverence which becomes the Signory's ancient union with the English crown, they have appointed him ambassador in lieu of Marco Antonio Venier. To pay his respects to the King, and exhort him to send aid to the Italian League.
To visit Cardinal Wolsey, with whom he is to perform ample and earnest offices, on account of his eminent qualities and ability, which shine as a beacon of safety amongst all Christians. To exhort the Cardinal to obtain succour from the King for the League.
To visit the other lords and personages in authority; and to give the Signory frequent advices of events, and of the course of his operations.
Put also to the ballot, that the ambassador Venier remain eight or ten days with Falier to instruct him, and then return home.
Ayes, 177. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian.]
Oct. 3. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 13. 354. Audience in the College Hall.
The English ambassador presented himself with letters from his brother Sir Gregory Casal, dated Viterbo, in conformity with those received by the Signory.
[Italian.]
Oct. 3. Lettere del Collegio (Secreta), File 11. 355. The Doge and College to Marc' Antonio Venier, Venetian Ambassador in England.
After remaining a week or ten days with his colleague, to acquaint him with what is necessary concerning the English Court and other events, he is to return “cum bona ventura
[Italian.]
Oct. 3. Lettere del Collegio (Secreta), File 11. 356. The Same to Lodovico Falier, Ambassador elect to England.
The accompanying letter addressed to the ambassador in England acquaints him with his dismissal after having remained a week or ten days to give such instructions as necessary.
[Latin.]
Oct. 4. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 62, St. Mark's Library. 357. Gasparo Contarini to the Council of Ten.
The day before yesterday his Holiness kept him to dinner. His Holiness mentioned the Emperor's obstinate ill will (dell' animo di Cesare ostinato) towards the most Christian King. Thereupon remarked, “Holy Father! when I was in Flanders, and on friendly terms with the Emperor's confessor, a Franciscan friar, deceased, (fn. 1) he told me the Emperor with difficulty forgot injuries.” The Pope rejoined, “The Archbishop of Capua [Nicholas Schomberg], when I sent him to Spain after my election, told me on his return that he had often held long conferences with the Emperor, who, as they were fellow-countrymen, was not on his guard with him; so he told me the Emperor's nature was evil, but that his education and nurture had been good (una mala natura, ma che la educatione et nutricione era sta bona); and thus he noted the effects produced by nurture and those by nature, and their difference, demonstrating how opposed were the Emperor's nature and his education. At this present I know not which will predominate, nature or education.” Answered him, “Your Holiness well knows how great is the force of nature.” Announces this to the Ten as a thing worthy of their knowledge, but knowing how important it is, requests they will keep it very secret.
Viterbo, 4th October.
[Italian, 1½ page.]
Oct. 7. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. pp.41–44. 358 —to the Marquis of Mantua, from Rome, advices from various places.
On the 7th inst. (fn. 2) Cardinal Carnpeggio arrived in London with his retinue. The King had desired him to rest and attend to his convalescence, whereupon they would confer, and discuss what was to be done. As mentioned by the Pope to the Marquis of Mantua's correspondent, Cardinal Carnpeggio did not announce any other news of importance.
London, 7th October.
[Italian.]
Oct. 8. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 63, St. Mark's Library. 359. The Same to the Same.
On the 5th the Pope and the whole Court quitted Viterbo. The road was unsafe by reason of the feud between the Colonna faction and the Abbot of Farfa, who was on his march with the troops subsidized by him. These last plundered some baggage carts belonging to Sir Gregory Casal, and took some of the horses of the Cardinal of Mantua.
On that evening the Pope lodged at Monte Rosa, the Cardinals and all the ambassadors being quartered at Nepi. Departed thence on the 6th, and having ridden the whole of that day in a pouring rain, arrived at Rome in the evening. On the Pope's entry the rain increased, and was accompanied with thunder; this many persons consider ominous.
Rome, 8th October 1528.
[Italian, 3½ pages.]
Oct. 11. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 32. 360. Audience in the College Hall.
The English ambassador came for news, and then made some demands relating to the Cardinal of Ancona, who is Archbishop of Ravenna, about his revenues.
[Italian.]
1528. [Oct. 12?] Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 90. 361. Marco Antonio Venier to the Signory.
Arrival of the Papal Legate, Cardinal Campeggio. Cardinal Wolsey went to meet him, as likewise did he (Venier).
London, [12th October?]. Registered by Sanuto, 2nd November.
[Italian.]
Oct. 18. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 97. 362. The Same to the Same.
Cardinal Campeggio has been seized with a fit of the gout. London, 18th October. Registered by Sanuto, 9th November.
[Italian.]
Oct. 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. xlix. p. 67. 363. Prothonotary Casal, Ambassador from England, to the Signory.
Quitted Venice to speak with his brother [Sir Gregory?], who is there (at Bologna), and to see after their affairs. (fn. 3) Having received letters from England about benefices, &c, is compelled to go to Rome to the Pope. Requests the Signory not to make any change with regard to his abbacy of Sacco. Has heard from England that the King was surprised at being held in such small account by the Signory respecting Ravenna and Cervia. It would be well to have the Pope on the Signory's side.
Bologna, 23rd October. Registered by Sanuto, 26th October.
[Italian.]
Oct. 28. Sanuto Diaries, v, xlix. p. 141. 364. Marco Antonio Venier to the Signory.
The Cardinal Legate Campeggio being cured of the gout, the King sent for the French, Venetian, and—ambassadors to the royal palace. On their arrival mutual congratulations were exchanged between them and his Majesty, on their being in good health and having escaped the plague.
After a while Cardinal Campeggio came, accompanied by Cardinal Wolsey. On being seated, after the usual complimentary phrases, Campeggio caused his secretary, by name–[Francesco Florian], to deliver a learned oration, narrating the distresses of Rome and the injuries suffered lately by the Church, notwithstanding which his Holiness, in like manner as he is styled Pope Clement, shows himself clement and is anxious for the peace of Christendom. He then besought the King to interfere, adding other words whereby all who heard him were moved to compassion. Thereupon the King had an answer given him, testifying his good will towards the welfare of Christendom. His Majesty has also elected two ambassadors, whom he is sending to Spain to the Emperor, to see if he will make a general peace. The King having heard that Cardinal Sta. Croce, late General of the Franciscan Friars Observant, has left Spain for Rome to negotiate an agreement between the Pope and the Emperor, his Majesty is sending an ambassador express to his Holiness to deter him from doing so.
London, 28th October. Registered by Sanuto, 27th November.
[Italian.]
1528. Oct. 28. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 70, St. Mark's Library. 365. Gasparo Contarini to the Signory.
The Prothonotary Casal has received letters from Cardinal Wolsey, dated the 5th instant, (fn. 4) purporting that the Pope should accredit some one to Genoa and to Andrea Doria, promising to negotiate with King Francis that he should give the Genoese their liberty and restore Savona, on condition of their neutrality, and that they detach Andrea Doria from the Emperor.
The Pope thinks Doria will not quit the Emperor's service. Prothonotary Casal also considers it difficult to withdraw him from the Emperor's service at present, and that the attempt should be made through the community of Genoa.
Joan Joachino [Passano] thinks Paulo Casal (the younger brother of Sir Gregory and the Prothonotary) should be sent to Genoa, because he declared he was going to Savona on behalf of the King of England.
Rome, 28th October.
[Italian, 3¾ pages.]
Oct. 28. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 71, St. Mark's Library. 366. The Same to the Council of Ten.
Joan Joachino [Passano] said, “Paulo Casal will go to Genoa, and the Pope has promised him credentials.” Rome, 28th October.
[Italian, 10 lines.]
Oct. 31. Original Letter Book, Letter no. 72, St. Mark's Library. 367. The Same to the Signory.
The Pope received a letter from Andrea Doria, dated the 27th, announcing the surrender of Savona, and that he should enter the town on the morrow. On this account the French ambassadors consider the journey of Paulo Casal unnecessary, and he therefore remains at Rome.
Rome, 31st October.
[Italian, 2 pages.]

Footnotes

1 See letter, date Ghent, 27 July 1521.
2 See also State Papers, vol. vii. p. 95, note.
3 The brothers Cassalis were natives of Bologna.
4 This letter from Wolsey to Casal, dated 4th October 1528, is published in vol. vii., part 5, State Papers, pp. 95–101.