House of Commons Journal Volume 3
7 November 1644

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 7 November 1644', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 689-690. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=9939 Date accessed: 21 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Jovis, Novembris 7, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Lord Abergaxenny's Sisters.

ORDERED, That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, to give Orders to the Committee of Sequestrations in the County of Suffolk, to allow out of the Lands and Revenues formerly issuable to Mary, Sister to the Lord Abergavenny, Seventy Pounds per Annum; and to Elizabeth, another of the Sisters of the Lord Abergavenny, Fifty Pounds per Annum, together with the Arrears due.

Preacher appointed.

Ordered, That Mr. Sallwey do desire Mr. Gibbs to preach before the Commons, at St. Margarett's, Westminster, the next publick Fast Day; Mr. Langley, formerly desired, being, upon extraordinary Occasion, gone out of Town.

Payment to Jennour.

Ordered, That the Committee of Sequestrations at Campden House do forthwith pay unto Mr. Jennour, a Member of this House, the Fifth Part of the Proceed of the Goods of a Delinquent's, discovered to the said Mr. Jennour by Mr. Peter Hudson.

Syppens respited.

The humble Certificate of the Commissioners for Martial Law, in the Case of Captain Thomas Syppens, signed under the Hand of the Judge Advocate, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, upon the Question, That the Execution of the Sentence given against Captain Thomas Syppens be respited, till the House take further Order.

Punishing Deserters.

Ordered, That the Articles of War, concerning Soldiers Departures from their Colours without Leave, referred to, be proceeded upon by the Commissioners for Martial Law; and, according to Command lately published by Sound of Trumpet, and Beat of Drum, throughout the Lines of Communication, shall, touching Offences of that Nature committed before the said Publication, be thus interpreted and enlarged: " That it shall be in the Power of the said Commissioners to punish the Offenders with Death, or other (fn. a) Punishment, at Discretion.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein, by Mr. Baynton.

Letter referred.

A Letter from Mr. Millington, from Nottingham, of November the 5th, 1644, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms: And they are desired to use Expedition in this Business; and to give an Account of the State thereof to the House.

Mediation of States Ambassadors.

A Letter from the States Ambassadors, of Novembris 6, 1644, written in French, and translated into English, directed to Mr. Speaker, to be communicated to the House; reinforcing their Desires of interposing in settling a Peace; was this Day read; and likewise the Answer sent from the Lords Octobris 21, to be returned to the States Ambassadors, concerning their Offer of Mediation: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred unto Mr. Selden, Mr. Crew, Mr. Holles, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Hen. Vane senior, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Long, Mr. Whitelock, to word it so, that it may not engage the Parliament to employ their Endeavours or Interposition in the Matter of Peace, according to the Debate of the House.

Person committed.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Were be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Compter.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords desire, That the Committee of this House appointed to meet with the Committee of Lords for the Earl of Denbigh's Association, may meet, with the Committee of Lords, this Afternoon, at Three of Clock; to consider of a Report to be made of the whole Matter to both Houses, the Business having . . . . long debated.

They have likewise sent down an Ordinance concerning the Governor of the Isle of Wight; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

They have likewise received a Petition from Sir Alexander Radcliffe; which they have recommended to the Consideration of this House.

Earl of Denbigh's Association.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, that the Committee of this House appointed for the Earl of Denbigh's Association, shall meet this Afternoon with the Committee of Lords, as is desired.

Ordered, That the House, as to the rest of the Message, will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Propositions for Peace.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

Navy.

Ordered, That the Business concerning the Navy, according to the Order made on Saturday last, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Business deferred.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Isle of Wight, and the Petition of Sir Alexander Ratcliffe, this Day sent from the Lords, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning,

Tythes.

Mr. Ashherst is appointed to go to the Lords; to desire, that, at this Conference desired, this House may deliver the Amendments concerning the Ordinance for Tythes.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the First Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: and do agree that the Committee for the Earl of Denbighe's Association shall meet this Afternoon, as is desired: And, as to the Ordinance concerning the Governor of the Isle of Wight, and the Petition of Sir Alexander Ratcliffe, they will take them into speedy Consideration, and send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Conference.

Answer returned by the Second Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting at a Conference, as is desired.

Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Recorder, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Mr. Ashherst brings Answer, That the Lords do agree, that, at this Conference, this House shall have a Conference concerning the Ordinance for Tythes.

Disposing of a Statue.

An Ordinance for disposing of the Proceed of the Brass Horse and Statue, was this Day read the First time; and ordered to be read the Second time on Saturday next.

Propositions to the King.

Mr. Pierrepont reports the Conference concerning the Propositions, That the Lords said, that they had been pressed, by this House, with the Importance that the Propositions should be expedited with all the Speed that might be, the Conjuncture of Affairs requiring it, and the Kingdom expecting it: They were of the same Opinion with this House; and therefore, that the Propositions might be expedited, they would avoid all further Debate that might arise upon their Amendments; and did totally and fully agree to the Propositions, and every Syllable of them, as they were sent from this House: And likewise to the Propositions sent to them on the Behalf of the City of London.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, that the Propositions shall go as they were sent from hence, before the Lords made the last Alterations; excepting as to the Clause in the Fourth Qualification, concerning the Members of either House, that have deserted the Parliament.

Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Pierrepont, Mr. Recorder, Sir Hen. Vane junior, Mr. Long, are appointed to consider of something to be offered to the Lords, for the more clearly comprehending, within the Fourth Qualification, all such Members of either House, as have deserted the Parliament, &c.: And are to bring it in To-morrow Morning.

Mr. Pierrepont further reported, That the Lords had thought fit to refer it to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider of the Manner of sending away the Propositions to the King; and to report it to the House.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, in referring to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider of the Manner of sending the Propositions of both Kingdoms to his Majesty; and to report their Opinions To-morrow.

Footnotes

a [a] The Lords added the Word " corporal" in this Place.