House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 3 May 1644

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 3 May 1644', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644, (London, 1802) pp. 477-478. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol3/pp477-478 [accessed 19 April 2024]

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Die Veneris, Maii Tertio, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Money for Army.

ORDERED, That the Two thousand Pounds a Month, assigned out of Haberdashers Hall for my Lord General's Army, shall be first provided for and paid, before any other Monies assigned by any other Order upon Haberdashers Hall, be complied with.

Lady Shelleye.

Resolved, &c. That this Business concerning the Lady Shelleye's Money, in the Hands of Sir Thomas Soame, and others, be re-committed: And the Committee is to meet upon it this Afternoon: And are to make a Report of it To-morrow Morning.

Aylisbury Garison.

Ordered, That the present Commissioners of the Customs do issue out the Twelve hundred and Fifty Pounds, in their Hands, due to Sir Tho. Dawes, and Mr. Jo. Dawes his Brother, for their Salary, and other Fees belonging unto them, to Sir Anth. Irby and Mr. Holland; who are to issue out the same to such as the Committee for the Revenue shall appoint, upon Account, for the Benefit of the Garison of Aylisbury; and are to reimburse themselves out of the Three thousand Pounds, assigned out of the Revenue of the Court of Wards to the Garison of Aylisbury, immediately after that Mr. Audeley shall be satisfied the Thousand Pounds which he has promised to advance for the Garison of Aylisbury.

Paleologus' Arrears.

Ordered, That the Committee at Haberdashers Hall do forthwith lend and pay Fifty Pounds, upon Account, to Sir Philip Stapilton, as Part of the Arrears due to Captain Paleologus, lately deceased, in the Service of the Parliament, to be deducted out of the Entertainment due to the said Captain Paleologus: And that the Arrears, due to the said Captain Paleologus, be audited: And, when the said Arrears are paid, that then the said Fifty Pounds be repaid, out of the said Arrears, to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall.

Henleye's Sequestration.

Resolved, &c. That the Profits of Mr. Henlcye's Office, under Sequestration, shall be employed to the Use and Benefit of the Towns of Lime and Poole, for Two Terms longer, if the Sequestration shall so long continue; deducting the usual Proportion belonging to Mr. Whitwicke.

Money for Army.

A Letter from Sir Wm. Waller, from Farneham, of the Second of May 1644, desiring Supply of Monies, was this Day read: And Mr. Trenchard is appointed to prepare a Letter, to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to Sir Wm. Waller, to acquaint him with the Care ..... is taken for Supply of his Army.

Ordered, That Mr. Trenchard do this Afternoon go to the Committee of the West; and inform them with the Particulars desired to be supplied to Sir Wm. Waller; and consider how they may be furnished: And, if that Committee cannot furnish them, that then the House will take the best Care they can for the providing of them.

Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Report concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance, be made To-morrow, the first Business.

Propositions for Peace.

The House, according to the Order Yesterday made, proceeded to the Consideration of the Proposition, prepared by the Committee of both Kingdoms for a safe and well-grounded Peace: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Committee, That some Members of both Houses may be sent unto the Lord Mayor, Court of Aldermen, and Common Council, to acquaint them, that the Houses are preparing Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace: And that both Houses will be ready to take into Consideration such Propositions as they shall present in Behalf of the City of London.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Recorder is appointed to desire the Lords Concurrence herein.

He likewise carried up the Order for Fifty Pounds, for Captain Paleologus.

Propositions for Peace.

Resolved, &c. That this shall be one of the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace; viz. That, by Act of Parliament, in each Kingdom respectively, all Oaths, Declarations, and Proclamations, against both or either of the Houses of the Parliament of England, and the late Convention of the Estates of Scotland, or their Ordinances and Proceedings, or against any, for adhering unto them, be declared null, suppressed, and forbidden, in all his Majesty's Dominions.

Reflections on Scotch Officers.

A Paper, in Print, intituled, "The Declaration of Commissary General Beher, against divers Slanders and Lyes spread abroad against him," wherein are some Expressions that reflect upon the Honour of some Officers of the Scottish Nation, was this Day read; being presented from the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Ordered, That Sir Philip Stapilton and Sir Wm. Brereton do presently go to my Lord General, and acquaint his Lordship with the Informations Sir Wm. Brereton has received concerning Commissary General Beher; and to take some Course that may prevent any Mischief.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to examine, and take into Consideration, the whole Business, with the Circumstances, concerning Colonel Beher; and the Declaration set forth by him; and the Grounds of it; and to report the whole Matter to the House.

Scotts Army, &c.

Two Letters; one from the Earl of Lyndesay to the Lord Maitland, from Acaster, within Two Miles of Yorke, of the Twenty-sixth of April; and one other from the same Place, of the Twenty-seventh of April, from the Earl of Leven; relating the State and Condition of the Army near Yorke.

Sir H. Vane jun. carried up to the Lords these Two Letters; and likewise the Copies of the Letters to the Earl of Leven; to the Committee of the Convention of the Estates of Scotland; and to the Lord Fairefaxe.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Recorder brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Orders carried up by him: And have appointed a Committee, of Six of their House, to go to the Lord Mayor, Court of Aldermen, and Common Council, on Monday next, at Two of Clock; and desire this House to appoint a Committee of a proportionable Number.

Propositions for Peace.

Mr. Spurstoe and Colonel Venn are appointed to go to the Lord Mayor, to desire him to call a Common Council, to meet on Monday next, at Two post Meridiem.

Mr. Recorder, Sir Tho. Burrington, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Walt. Erle, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Mr. Spurstoe, Sir Rob. Harley, Colonel Ven, Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Jo. Trevor, Mr. Ashe, Sir Tho. Some;

This Committee is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to go to the Lord Mayor, Court of Aldermen, and Common Council, on Monday next, at Two post Meridiem, to acquaint them, That the Houses are preparing Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace; and that both Houses will be ready to take into Consideration such Propositions as they shall present, in the Behalf of the City of London.

Loan from the City.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to employ their Endeavours for getting in those Monies that are behind, of the One hundred thousand Pounds, promised to be lent by the Companies at a Common Hall, on Friday the Third of June 1642, for Preservation of the Realm of Ireland: And that such Arrears of the said One hundred thousand Pounds, as shall be brought in by the Industry of the said Committee, shall be employed for the Relief of the Scotts Army.

Money for Plymouth.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Plymouth, to inform themselves what Monies they can discover to be in the Hands of any Persons in and about London, which of Right belongs to some Cornish Man in Arms against the Parliament: And that the Monies, so found out, shall be disposed for the Use of Plymouth.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That the Admiralty and Navy Business be reported; and my Lord Admiral's Letters concerning those Affairs, be read on Monday Morning next: And that the House do take them into Consideration, and settle some Course concerning them.

Propositions for Peace.

Ordered, That the Propositions for Peace be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

The Question being propounded, Whether the Propositions for Peace shall be taken into Consideration next after the Report concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

The House was divided.

Mr. Holles, Sir Philip Stapilton, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 24.
Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Prideaux, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 34.

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Lords agree to Letters.

Sir Henry Vane brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to the Letters carried up by him.

Ordination of Ministers.

Ordered, That the Rules, and Advice for Ordination of Ministers, presented from the Assembly of Divines, be taken into Consideration, next after the Report concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance.

Prisoner discharged.

Resolved, &c. That Darby O Molrion, an Irishman, committed Prisoner to the Lord Petre's House by a former Order of this House, be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint, upon Request made from the Duke Picilomini, he being avowed to be his Servant.