House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 13 September 1645

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, Septembris 13, 1645.


The Grand Committee of the whole House, according to an Order of this House, of the Eleventh present, proceeded to the Consideration of raising Monies and Forces for the publick Service.

Sir Tho. Widdrington in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Rents of the University of Oxon be read on Monday next, after that the Report concerning Mr. Speaker and Sir John Lenthall shall be made.

Ordered, That the Members of this House, that are of the Committee of Excise, do look and inquire into the State of the Excise; and make Report to the House, In what Course it is now managed, and how it may be best improved for the best Advantage of the Commonwealth: And the State of the Excise is to be brought in to the House, in Writing: And the Committee has Power to conser herein with what Persons they shall think sitting: And Mr. Prideaux and Mr. Bond are appointed to have a Care of this Business.

Ordered, That the Records and Proceedings of the Court of Requests, remaining in the Rooms near the House of Peers, under the Custody of the Register of that Court, be removed, out of those Rooms, into some other convenient Place; the House being informed, That there are other sitting Places formerly appointed for the keeping those Records: And that those Rooms be fitted, and made use of, for the constant Keeping in good Order and Preserving of the Records of this House.

It is further Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Revenue, to give Directions to the Surveyor of the Works to view the said Rooms; and that they may be sitted with strong Presses, and other necessary and sitting Accommodations, for the safe and well Keeping of the Records of the Commons House, that are of so great Concernment; to the end they may be preserved, and transmitted to Posterity, and not suffer the Prejudice they have formerly done, by coming into the Hands of Executors upon the Death of former Clerks.

Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Lisle, Sir John Evelyn, Mr. Selden, Mr. Noble, Sir John Francklyn, Mr. Ellis, Sir Edward Boys, Sir Thomas Woodhowse, Sir Ralph Aston, Sir Arthur Hasilrig, Mr. Holland, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Richard Browne, Mr. Pury, Sir Philip Stapilton, Sir Wm. Brereton, Sir Dudley North, Sir Wm. Massam, Sir Henry Mildmay, Colonel Venne, Mr. Toll, Mr. Tate, Mr. Jennour, Sir Benjamin Rudyard, Sir Henry Heyman, Mr. Buller, Sir Thomas Cheek, Mr. Blakiston, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Millington;

This Committee is to meet this Afternoon at Three of Clock, in the Exchequer-Chamber, and so de die in diem: And are to consider of the Prisoners, and of the Nature of their Crimes; and who are willing to compound, and are fit to be compounded withal: And are to report the same to the House: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Drake shall have the Leave of this House to go into the Country; and be dispensed with for his Attendance here for the Space of Three Weeks.

Sir Thomas Widdrington reports, from the Committee appointed to meet with the Committee of the Lords, to receive such Matters as should be propounded by the Scotts Commissioners, a Paper, of 12 Septembris 1645, from the Commissioners of Scotland, delivered in by the Lord Chancellor: Which was read: Also another Paper from the Commissioners of Scotland, of 4 Septembris 1645, delivered in by the Lord Wareston: And that the Lord Warreston further acquainted the Committee, That this Paper was ready to have been delivered in to the Committee of both Kingdoms on Saturday last; but, there being not a full Committee there, he kept it to be then delivered.

Resolved, &c. That a general Answer shall be prepared, and presented to this House, to be given to the general Parts of the Scotts Paper of 12 Septembris 1645.

Resolved, &c. That the Matter concerning the Scotts Forces marching (out of, and leaving the Garisons garisoned by the Scotts in the North) into Scotland, for the Assistance of their own Nation, shall be one Particular of the Answer to be given to the Scotts Commissioners.

Ordered, That the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do desire to know of the Commissioners of Scotland, Whether it be the Desire of the Kingdom of Scotland, that their Army should, upon this late sad Occasion, immediately march into the Kingdom of Scotland: And they are to report their Proceeding upon this Business, on Monday Morning next.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider of the whole Matter of the Debate this Day in the House, upon Occasion of the Paper from the Scotts Commissioners, of 12 Septembris 1645, in reference to the Articles of the Treaty; and to report their Opinions thereupon to the House, on Monday next.