House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 16 October 1645

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 16 Octobris, 1645.


THE Grand Committee of the House, according to former Order, proceeded to take into Consideration the Business concerning Propositions to be sent to his Majesty, for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

Sir Thomas Widdrington in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Whittacre carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance concerning Keeping of ignorant and scandalous Persons from the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper: The Votes for referring the Framing of an Answer to the King of Denmarke's Letter, touching his Interposition, and for requiring Sir John Henderson to return with .. Fourteen Days: The Vote for Twenty-five Pounds per Week for Colonel Bridge's Troop, out of the Excise of Warwickshire: The Vote for Mr. Blagrave to be HighSheriff of Berks: The Vote for Mr. Nixe to be of the Committee for Nottingham: And the Vote for Sir John Cooke to be added to the Assembly of Divines.

Mr. Whittacre brings Answer from the Lords, That, as to the Ordinance concerning the Sacrament, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: And, as to the rest, they do agree.

Sir Thomas Widdrington reports from the Grand Committee appointed to consider of Propositions to be sent to his Majesty, for a safe and well-grounded Peace: And

It is Resolved, &c. That the Demand, touching the Takeing away of the Court of Wards and Tenures, may be one of the Propositions to be sent to the King.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Grand Committee of the House appointed to consider of the Matter of Propositions, to proceed upon the Propositions touching the taking away the Court of Wards; notwithstanding any former Order or Resolution of this House, touching that Business.

A Letter from the Mayor of Sandwich, of September 26, 1645, directed to Mr. Speaker, was this Day read; containing the Contents of a Letter, written unto him from the Earl of Warwick, touching the Election of his Son, Mr. Charles Riche, to serve for that Town.

Ordered, &c. That this Business, of this Letter, written from the Earl of Warwicke to the Mayor of Sandwich, be referred to the Committee of Privileges: And that That Committee shall take Information, and make Examination, of all Letters that have been written by any Peers, touching the Electing of any Members to serve in this House: And that they do speedily represent the State of this Business, together with their Opinions upon the whole Matter, to the House.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Prideaux, Serjeant Wilde, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Jesson, Mr. Smith, Sir Dudly North, Mr. Jo. Ashe, Mr. Nicholas, Sir Martin Lumley, Colonel Venn, Mr. Boyse, Colonel Mountague, Mr. Bond, Mr. Hill, Sir Gil. Pickering, Mr. Yonge, Mr. Corbett, Sir John Northcott, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Burrell, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Jo. Goodwyn, Mr. Sam. Browne, Captain Skinner, Mr. Darley, are added to the Committee of Privileges.

Ordered, &c. That the Ordinance concerning the Governor of Bristoll be read To-morrow.

Ordered, &c. That the Clerk do, together with the Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown, for the issuing a Writ, for the Election of any Person to serve as a Member of this House, send a Copy of the Order of this House, of December 1641, touching Letters written by Peers, concerning the Election of any Persons to serve as Members in this House: And that the Commissioners of the Great Seal do take care, that a Copy of the said Order may be sent, together with the Writ that they shall send to any Place, for the Electing of Members to serve in this House.

An Ordinance for appointing the Committee of Sequestrations in London to cause all the Records, Books, Writings, and other Things, in Mr. Willys his Chamber, in the Inner-Temple, belonging to the Office of the Clerk of the Crown, to be delivered unto John Bolles Esquire, now Clerk of the Crown, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed.

The House being informed, That Colonel Devereux, according to the Order and Summons of this House, attending at the Door;

He was called in; and informed the House, That he had his Commission from General Leven, and Committee of Estates of Scotland: Who, upon the Removal of the Scotts Army from before Hereford, commanded him to join with Colonel-General Pointz; from whom he had Orders to remain in Worcestershire. He further acquainted the House, That he had sent Eightscore Arms, Saddles, and Swords, to arm such of them as had no Arms before: And that he had ... taken any of those Horse from the Country, except such as were taken out of the Enemy's Quarters, within Two Miles and One Mile and a Half of Worcester.

Ordered, &c. That the whole Business concerning Colonel Devereux be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to examine and settle it: And that he deliver up the Commission from the Scotts General: And that they take care to send what Force they can to follow the King.

Ordered, &c. That Fifty Barrels of Powder, and Match and Bullet proportionable, be forthwith furnished out of the publick Stores, for the Service against Chester: And it is especially recommended to the Committee for the Stores, to make these Provisions.

Ordered, &c. That One hundred Backs, Pots, and Breasts, and an Hundred Case of Pistols, and an Hundred Saddles and Bridles, be forthwith provided and furnished out of the publick Stores, for the Nottingham Horse, under the Command of Colonel Thornhagh.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Millington do make the Report concerning Colonel Thornhagh, To-morrow Morning.

Ordered, &c. That Colonel Edward Mountague be added to the Committee made by Ordinance Nine-and-twentieth of March last, touching the Affairs of the Army, under Sir Tho. Fairefaxe, and the Payment thereof; in place of Mr. Wm. Strode, deceased.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Upon Mr. Whittacre's Report from the Committee of Examinations;

It is Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do grant a Pass to Mrs. March, to go into the Enemy's Quarters; and to return again within a Month.

Ordered, &c. That Colonel Venn, Mr. Snellinge, and Colonel Thompson, do, from this House, acquaint the Committee of the Militia of London of the Necessity of the speedy raising the Recruits for Sir Thomas Fairefaxe's Army; and desire them to take special Care of it.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Order: It is for the Making of Mr. Trefusis Vice-Admiral of Cornewall: It came as a Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Admiralty and CinquePorts: The Lords have agreed to it; and desire your Concurrence:- An Ordinance for Relief of some Poor at Taunton, and of some Scholars at the Universities: To which they do agree; and desire your Concurrence. They commanded us to put you in mind of Colonel Barrow, to be Governor of Barkley-Castle.

The Order concerning Mr. Trefusis was read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords; and doth nominate and approve of John Trefusis Esquire to have and execute the North Vice-Admiralty of Cornewall, as Vice-Admiral thereof.

The Ordinance for Relief of the Poor at Taunton, and of the Scholars at the University, was read; and, upon the Question, passed.

A Letter from the General Sir Tho. Fairefaxe, of Eleven of October 1645, from Chard, was this Day read; and was, concerning the Governor of Barklay-Castle.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Colonel Barrow to be Governor of BarklayCastle.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered your Message; and doth agree in every Particular of it.