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House of Commons Journal Volume 85: 18 June 1830

Pages 566-569

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 85, 1830. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, [n.d.].

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Veneris, 18 die Junii ; Anno 11° Georgii IV ti Regis, 1830.

Prayers.

Warriner's Estate Bill, passed with an Amendment.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for vesting Estates, of which Gifford Warriner, Esquire, a Lunatic, is tenant in tail, in Trustees for Sale, and also for effecting a partition of certain parts thereof, and for granting Leases, was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendment, do pass.

Ordered, That Sir John Astley do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the same, with an Amendment; to which Amendment this House doth desire the concurrence of their Lordships.

Boydell's Divorce Bill, committed.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to dissolve the Marriage of Samuel Boydell with Jane Boydell Boydell his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again, and for other purposes, was read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Monday the 28th day of this instant June.

Instruction.

Ordered, That it be an Instruction to the Committee, that they do hear counsel and examine witnesses for the Bill; and also, that they do hear counsel and examine witnesses against the Bill, if the parties concerned think fit to be heard by counsel, or produce witnesses.

Petition against Liability of Landlords Bill.

A Petition of Merchants, Traders, Owners of cottage property and others, Inhabitants of Leeds, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the better rating Tenements under a certain Annual Value; and praying, That the same may not pass into a law.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition for holding Assizes at Wakefield.

A Petition of Merchants, Manufacturers, Tradesmen and others, Inhabitants and Householders of Horbury, was presented, and read; praying the House to sanction and encourage a measure so decidedly advantageous to the public as the removal of the Assizes for the west riding of Yorkshire to the town of Wakefield.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition for Reduction of Duty on Spirits (Ireland.)

A Petition of Merchants and Inhabitants of the city of Cork, was presented, and read; setting forth, That a Duty of 2d. per gallon having been levied by the collector of excise for that city, under the orders of the Board of Excise, upon home-made Spirits entered for home consumption since the 15th March last, and a Duty of 1s. per gallon having been levied by the same officer upon home-made Spirits exported to England, without the authority of Parliament, the Petitioners feel it incumbent upon them to express to the House their indignant remonstrance against the dangerous and arbitrary measure, as subversive of the Bill of Rights, an infringement of the property of the subject, in violation of the constitution of these realms, and an intolerable and illegal assumption of power by the Ministers of the Crown, all of which allegations the Petitioners are ready to prove at the bar of the House, and they do pray the House to afford such redress as the bare mention of such an arbitrary proceeding demands.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petitions against increased Duties on Spirits and Stamps (Ireland.)

A Petition of Inhabitants and Landholders of the united parishes of Kilcoman and Robin;-of George Moore, High Sheriff of the county of Mayo, and Chairman of a Meeting of the Freeholders and Inhabitants of the said county;-and, of Inhabitants of Inistioge, in the county of Kilkenny,-were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners feel truly alarmed at the proposed increase of Duties on Stamps and Spirits; that these imposts would prove most injurious and degrading to the Irish nation, injurious, as they would bring ruin on her agricultural and mercantile interests, degrading, inasmuch as they would deprive the great body of the nation of the inestimable blessings which are derived from a free press; and praying the House not to lend its sanction to measures so reported by the Irish nation, so repugnant to her interests, and so unequivocally condemned by her Representatives in the House.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and, except the first, to be printed.

Petitions against Assimilation of Stamp Duties (Ireland.)

A Petition of Inhabitants of Killenaule, in the county of Tipperary;-of Inhabitants and Parishioners of Dungarvan and Abbeyside, in the county of Waterford;-of Governors, Patrons, Trustees, Treasurers, Secretaries, Subscribers and Friends of the several Charitable Institutions of every denomination in the city of Dublin;-and, of Watchmakers, Jewellers and Silversmiths of the city of Armagh,-were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have heard with alarm, that whilst three millions of Taxes have been remitted to England during the present Session, it is intended to impose an additional taxation upon the people of Ireland; and praying, That the House may resist all assimilation of Stamp Duties.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and, except the first, to be printed.

Petition against Restriction on Importation of Lead.

A Petition of Proprietors and Workers of Lead Mines within the county of Derby, was presented, and read; praying, That the House will not, at the present time, sanction the imposition of any higher Duties upon Foreign Lead and Lead Ore imported into this country; but that they will give every assistance to His Majesty's Ministers in extending that policy which they appear to have commenced, and which is so essential to the prosperity of all classes, namely, of gradually removing all restrictive Duties which press upon the industry of the country.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition respecting Duty on Spirits.

A Petition of Richard Devereux, Maurice Crosbie Harvey, Patrick Breen, Nicholas Devereux and John Thomas Devereux, of the town of Wexford, Distillers, was presented, and read; setting forth, That in the year 1825 a Bill was passed, affixing the Duty which should thereafter be chargeable on Rum and Corn Spirits in the United Kingdom; that the Petitioners have heard with alarm the measure proposed to be submitted to the House by His Majesty's Government, for the repeal of said law, enacted in 1825, and to increase the Duty payable on Corn Spirits, without any corresponding increase being laid on Rum; and praying, That should the House carry the proposed measure into effect, they will be pleased to remunerate the Petitioners for the capital they have expended on the faith of the law enacted in 1825.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition against Duties on Tobacco, &c. (Ireland.)

A Petition of Parishioners of Trinity Without, in the county of the city of Waterford, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have heard with deep concern of the intention of His Majesty's Government to impose a Tax on the growth of Tobacco in Ireland, to place additional Duties on Corn Spirits, and to assimilate the Duties on Stamps between Great Britain and Ireland; and praying the House to refuse their sanction to these ruinous measures, opposed as they are to the principle of the Legislative Union.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Copies of Memorials to be printed. No. 553.

Ordered, That the Copies of Memorials to the Treasury, from Warrington, Ashton, Newton and Wigan, relative to the Northern Roads Commission, which were presented to the House upon Friday last, be printed.

Ireland-Return, ordered: Post Office Steam Packets.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return from each of the following Irish Post-Office Steam Packet Stations: Donaghadee and Portpatrick, Liverpool and Dublin, Holyhead and Dublin, Milford and Waterford, Bristol and Waterford, Bristol and Cork; each stating the following particulars: The number of Steam Packets employed, whether belonging to the Post Office or otherwise; the Tonnage and Power of Engines of each, in the years ending 5th January 1826, 1827, 1828, 1829 and 1830; the longest and shortest Voyage; and the average of the twenty longest and twenty shortest Voyages during each of the above years (stating the Tonnage and Power of the Packets which in each year shall have made the shortest voyage:-the distance between the landing places of the several Stations above enumerated:-the total number of Deck and Cabin Passengers (distinguishing the Deck from the Cabin Passengers), Carriages and Horses, taken across in each of the above years; 1. from England to Ireland; 2. from Ireland to England; also, the Fares charged:-the hour at which the London Mail Coach arrives at each of the above Stations, and the hour at which the Packet sails:-The hours at which the several Mails are despatched from the above enumerated Irish Post Offices:-the hours at which the several Mails arrive at the Irish Post Offices above mentioned, and the hour at which the Packet is despatched:-The number of days in each year on which Packets have been prevented from sailing in due course:-the rate, per hour, at which the London Mail, to each of the above-mentioned PostOffice Stations (in England) travels.

Tolls.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a Return of all the Market Towns in Ireland, whether Corporate or otherwise, at which Toll is demanded; specifying the number of Market-days held in each week at each Town: -also, a Return of the Names of all places in Ireland at which Fairs are held, the number of Fairs held yearly in each place; distinguishing the Patents granted since the period of the Union of Ireland with Great Britain.

Petitions in favour of Court of Session (Scotland) Bill.

A Petition of Practitioners in the courts of law in Kincardineshire;-and, of Ship-owners, Merchants and Manufacturers of the burgh of Stonehaven,-were presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for uniting the benefits of Jury Trial in Civil Causes with the ordinary Jurisdiction of the Court of Session, and for making certain other alterations and reductions in the Judicial Establishments of Scotland; and praying the House, in abolishing the Court of Admiralty in Scotland, to extend to the Sheriff Courts the power of judging in all maritime questions, of whatever amount.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.

Petitions in favour of Northern Roads Bill.

A Petition of the Lord Provost, Magistrates and Common Council of the city of Glasgow;-and, of the Company of Merchants of the city of Edinburgh,-were presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the improvement of the Roads from London to Edinburgh, and from London to Portpatrick; and for the further improvement of the Roads from London to Holyhead, and from London to Liverpool; and praying, That the same may pass into a law.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.

Mildmay's Divorce Bill, committed.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to dissolve the Marriage of Captain Edward Saint John Mildmay with Marianne Catherine his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again, and for other purposes therein mentioned, was read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Monday the 28th day of this instant June.

Instruction.

Ordered, That it be an Instruction to the Committee, that they do hear counsel and examine witnesses for the Bill; and also, that they do hear counsel and examine witnesses against the Bill, if the parties concerned think fit to be heard by counsel, or produce witnesses.

Petition against Administration of Justice Bill.

A Petition of Natives of the Principality of Wales, resident in and near the metropolis, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in England and Wales; and praying, That the judicial limits of the Principality, as heretofore defined, may not be altered by the said Bill; that responsible interpreters be appointed, and an epitome of the laws translated into the Welsh language, or such other means adopted as the House may deem most effectual for securing the due administration of justice in the Principality, without wounding the feelings of their countrymen, by removing those marks which distinguish the ancient Britons as a distinct nation.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Power to a Committee.

Ordered, That the Committee on the Bill to prevent the spreading of Canine Madness have Power to send for persons papers and records.

Petition respecting Oaths.

A Petition of Christian People resident in Londonderry, Belfast, Armagh, Newry and Dungannon, was presented, and read; complaining of the grievances under which they lie in the matter of Oaths; and setting forth, That the Petitioners are at liberty in their consciences to confirm on any suitable occasion, by any simple affirmation the most solemn, their testimony of facts, or their acknowledgment of duty, and their declaration of serious purpose, to act accordingly, through the help of God, and inasmuch as the Legislature has heretofore admitted an affirmation in place of an oath in the case of two other classes of religious professors (the people called Quakers and Moravians), they pray to be favoured with a similar indulgence.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition against Court of Session (Scotland) Bill.

A Petition of Members of the Faculty of Procurators before the High Court of Admiralty of Scotland and Isles thereof, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for uniting the benefits of Jury Trial in Civil Causes with the ordinary Jurisdiction of the Court of Session, and for making certain other alterations and reductions in the Judicial Establishments of Scotland; and praying, That the same, in so far as it proposes the abolition of the Court of Admiralty in Scotland, may not pass into a law, or at least that it do not pass without full and ample compensation being provided to the Petitioners for the loss and injury to be sustained by them, and that, if necessary, they may be allowed to be heard by counsel in support of their Petition.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition against Poor Removal (Irish and Scottish) Bill.

A Petition of Directors of the Poor of the united parishes of Saint Michael and the Holy Trinity, in the city and county of the city of Coventry, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill to alter and amend several Acts relating to the Removal of Vagrant and Poor Persons born in Scotland and Ireland, and chargeable to Parishes in England; and praying, That the same may not pass into a law.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Embankments (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for making and preserving Embankments on the sides of Rivers in Ireland, be now read; and the same being read;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Committee on Stage Coach Proprietors Bill; No. 554.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for the more effectual protection of Mail Contractors and Stage Coach Proprietors against Losses, by the undue concealment of the value of Parcels and Packages delivered to them for Conveyance or Custody, be now read; and the same being read:-The House resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir George Clerk reported from the Committee, that they had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereunto.

Ordered, That the Report be now received.

reported.

Sir George Clerk accordingly reported from the Committee the Amendments which they had made to the Bill; and the Report was brought up, and read.

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Tuesday next.

Ordered, That the Bill, as amended, be printed.

County Rates (Ireland) Bill, re-committed; No. 555.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House on the Bill to regulate the Applotment of County Rates and Cesses in Ireland in certain cases, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was recommitted to a Committee of the whole House.

considered;

Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill:-The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr. John Wood reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and made other Amendments thereunto.

Ordered, That the Report be now received.

reported.

Mr. John Wood accordingly reported from the Committee the Amendments which they had made to the Bill; and the Report was brought up, and read.

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Tuesday next.

Ordered, That the Bill, as amended, be printed.

Burghs (Scotland) Bill, ordered.

Ordered, That leave be given to bring a Bill for establishing a general system of Police in the Burghs of Scotland: And that the Lord Advocate, Mr. Robert Grant, and Mr. James Loch do prepare, and bring it in.

Ways and Means, deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of Ways and Means for raising the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the same being read;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Assessed Taxes Composition Bill, committed.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the Bill to continue Compositions for the Assessed Taxes for a further term, and to grant relief from, and alter and repeal the said Duties in certain cases, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was read a second time; and committed to a Committee of the whole House for Monday next.

The Lords have agreed to

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Giffin Wilson and Mr. Henley Eden:

Mr. Speaker,

The Lords have agreed to the several Bills following, without any Amendment; viz.

Militia Ballot Suspension Bill.

A Bill, intituled, An Act to suspend, until the end of the next Session of Parliament, the making of Lists, and the Ballots and Enrolments for the Militia of the United Kingdom:

Population Bill.

A Bill, intituled, An Act for taking an Account of the Population of Great Britain, and of the increase or diminution thereof:-And then the Messengers withdrew.

Court of Session (Scotland) Bill, re-committed;

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for uniting the benefits of Jury Trial in Civil Causes with the ordinary Jurisdiction of the Court of Session, and for making certain other alterations and reductions in the Judicial Establishments of Scotland, be now read; and the same being read:- The Bill was re-committed to a Committee of the whole House.

considered.

Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill:-The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and made other Amendments thereunto.

Ordered, That the Report be received upon Monday next.

Supply deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the same being read;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Administration of Justice Bill, re-committed;

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in England and Wales, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was re-committed to a Committee of the whole House.

A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House will now resolve itself into the said Committee;

An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out the word "now" and inserting the words "upon this day six months" instead thereof.

And the Question being put, That the word "now" stand part of the Question;

And the House having continued to sit till after twelve of the clock on Saturday morning;

Sabbati, 19° die Junii, 1830:

The House divided.
The Yeas went forth.
Tellers for the Yeas, Mr. Planta, 129.
Mr. Solicitor General:
Tellers for the Noes, Sir John Owen, 30.
Sir Charles Wetherell:

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the main Question being put;

considered.

Resolved, That this House will now resolve itself into the Committee:-The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had made a progress in the Bill; and that he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may have leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, again resolve itself into the said Committee.

Tithes Exchange Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to enable Rectors, Vicars, and other Incumbents of Ecclesiastical Benefices and Livings in England and Wales, to exchange their Tithes for Corn Rents, by agreement with the Owners of Lands;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Tuesday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Bankrupt Laws Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to supply an omission in an Act of the sixth year of His present Majesty, for amending the Laws relating to Bankrupts;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Labouring Poor Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to promote the Employment of the Labouring Poor by free hiring at fair and adequate Wages;

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Wednesday next.

Poor Rates Annuities Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Bill to direct certain Returns to be made to Parliament from Parishes in England and Wales, and to enable Parishes to raise Money for certain Purposes therein set forth, upon terminable Annuities charged on their Poor Rates;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon Thursday next.

Charitable Institutions Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to declare in what cases the Possessions of certain Charitable Institutions shall be liable to the payment of Rates for local Purposes;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Justices of the Peace (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for further facilitating Summary Proceedings before Magistrates in Ireland;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Arms (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to regulate the Importation of Arms, Gunpowder and Ammunition into Ireland, and the making, selling and keeping of Arms;

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Tuesday next.

Libel Law Amendment Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to repeal so much of an Act of the sixtieth year of his late Majesty King George the Third, for the more effectual prevention and punishment of blasphemous and seditious Libels, as relates to the sentence of Banishment for the second Offence, and to provide some further remedy against the abuse of publishing Libels;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Local Jurisdiction Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Bill for establishing Courts of Local Jurisdiction;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time this day.

Dean Forest Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for taking into further consideration the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for ascertaining the Boundaries of the Forest of Dean, in the County of Gloucester, and for inquiring into the Rights and Privileges claimed by Free Miners of the Hundred of Saint Briavel's, and for other purposes relating to the said Forest;

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.

Treasurer of the Navy Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to consolidate and amend the several Acts relating to the Office of Treasurer of His Majesty's Navy;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Additional Churches Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Bill to amend and render more effectual the Acts for the building of additional Churches in populous Parishes;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon Monday next.

Account of Forest Boundaries, ordered.

Ordered, That there be laid before this House, a detailed Account of the Expenses incurred by the several Commissioners appointed, during the last twenty-five years, to ascertain the Boundaries, to encourage the growth of Timber, or to settle Disputes relative to Property, within the New Forest, Windsor Forest, and other Royal Forests.

And then the House, having continued to sit till two of the clock on Saturday morning, adjourned till this day, twelve of the clock.