Henry VIII: October 1537, 16-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 12 Part 2, June-December 1537. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1891.

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October 1537, 16-20

16 Oct. 921. Sir Thos. Palmer to Lord Lisle.
R. O. On Monday prince Edward was christened, and on the same day Sir Geo. Frogmorton was sent to the Tower. It is said that Dyngley has impeached him. That same day lord Montague's brother came to Court to do service, but the King would not suffer him to come in. On Thursday next the Prince shall be created, and my lord Admiral shall be made earl of Hampton, and lord Beauchamp earl of Salisbury. This is the last news I shall write till I come home. I am told my lord Comptroller would not allow Hastings' man at the banner watch (?). Your Lordship knows well he had good occasion to sue. No man in England or in France has more. I have made suit to my lord Privy Seal to make an end of that matter, for it has undone them both, and they have been from their rooms along time to the detriment of the King's service. I never heard that your Lordship hurt any man, and I trust you will not begin with Hastings, for I never heard him speak but good words of your Lordship. I hear this day that Vekar complained to the King of your Lordship. I cannot tell particulars. I have declared to my lord Privy Seal and my lord Admiral that if you have new letters daily for rooms I would not have your place for 1,000l. a year more than your Lordship has. I will say as much to the King before I come home, for it is quite contrary to the Act. London, 16 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
16 Oct. 922. John Husee to Loud Lisle.
R. O. The Prince was christened on Sunday last at 12 o'clock, whose birth has more rejoiced all true hearts than anything done this 40 years. Hopes the King will have many more sons. Hopes Lisle has long since heard of his birth by John Skarlet who went with the Queen's letters. The duke of Norfolk and the abp. of Canterbury were godfathers at the font, my lady Mary godmother and the duke of Suffolk godfather at the confirmation. Corbet was there, who will give you particulars at his return. My lord Admiral and my lord Privy Seal will be created earls next Thursday. (fn. n1) The former, I am told, is to be earl of Warwick and the King has already given him in fee simple 2,000l. out of the attainted and suppressed lands. My lord Privy Seal is to be earl of Kent or of Hampton: the King has given him 200l. a year. Young Mr. Parre and others are to be made lords and certain knights will be made, of whom I shall bring you an account myself. My lord Admiral says he has finished all your causes, though what they are I know not. My lord Privy Seal has been too busy to hear suitors, but I hope to know his determination in your matters by Friday or Saturday, and also concerning the fife, whom I see he would like to be readmitted to his room on any terms. Geo. Rolles is come out of Devonshire and says there are but 2 or 3 oaks felled in all your woods of Frystock, of which I am right glad. Hopes before this term end the transportation of the lands shall be settled. Expects by Mr. Russell's help to get a bill signed to levy last year's rent. The chancellor of that court (fn. n2). is not your friend and what has been done was "maugre his head." Hopes to bring Lisle's patent. As to Mr. Ponson, the gelding was delivered 7 days before Hercules' coming over. The abbot of Westminster must have his 2 tuns of wine before Candlemas. Will come on Sunday at furthest. Would have been with him 8 days ago but for this impeachment to my lord Privy Seal. St. Katharine's, 16 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
16 Oct. 923. John Husee to Lady Lisle.
R. O. The Prince was christened on Sunday last, and all the ceremonies were finished by 12 o'clock. The duke of Norfolk and the abp. of Canterbury were godfathers at the font, my lady Mary godmother, and the duke of Suffolk godfather at the confirmation. On Thursday next my lord Admiral will be created earl of Warwick, as the saying is, and my lord Privy Seal earl of Kent or of Hampton. (fn. n1) Other lords and knights will also be made. I will report particulars at my coming. Corbet can inform you of the ceremonies at the christening, for he stood by and saw them. Mrs. Hutton has prepared two frontlets which cost 23s. a piece for Mrs. Anne and Mrs. Katharine. On Sunday last lady Sussex sent to me with all speed to make Mrs. Anne a new gown either of lion tawny velvet or of black velvet turned up with yellow satin; which I have done with much work. By Tonge's help the gown was made up and she wore it at the christening. Yet she must have against the Queen's churching a new satin gown, and against Christmas a new gown of lion tawny velvet. I intend to leave on Sunday at furthest and to bring James with me, if he go not before, and Sendye. Mrs. Gryffyn will send you the pepper if she can get any money of the treasurer. I think the ladies liked the partridge pie, though its fashion was marred by the ship which brought it lying almost a tide under water in the Thames. The master was not to blame. The habiliments of gold were delivered according to your instructions. St. Katharine's, 16 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
16 Oct. 924. Thos., Prior of Christ Church, Canterbury, to Cromwell.
Cleop. E. iv.,
B. M.
Has received his letter by Mr. Myllyng, which is more comfort to him and his brethren than he can express. They have hitherto given him a yearly fee of 10l. Have now heartily granted him and his son Gregory a yearly fee of 20l. Sends the patent by Mr. Myllyng, the bearer, and 10l. in full payment of the old fee. Request him to redeliver the old patent. The two farms of which Cromwell desires the reversion for his servants, Ralph Vane and Harry Thomas, are occupied for certain years to come, but meanwhile they shall have the reversions under the prior's seal, or, if Cromwell prefer it, under that of the convent, though it has not been usual to have two convent seals out together; but they must give sureties. Cromwell has already dispensed with them for certain injunctions left by the King's visitor. Three more injunctions have since been left, for which they desire dispensations also, or at least to have them modified; first, that kinswomen may resort to them honestly; second, that they may receive brethren into the habit at 18, and profess them at 22; third, that their reader of divinity may be excused reading only three times a week, for to read every day would be an importune labour. Wishes also power to punish unthrifty persons under him. Canterbury, Tuesday, 16 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. (at f. 138 b): Privy Seal.
Cleop. E. iv.,
B. M.
2. The three injunctions referred to, viz.: 1. That no woman whatsoever come within the walls of this monastery. 2. That every day there be an hour's reading of scripture by a learned man. 3. That no one enter the order or put on the habit until he have completed his 24th year.
Lat. Small paper, p. 1.
16 Oct. 925. John Babyngton to Cromwell.
R. O. I write at the request of divers honest neighbours transmitting the copy of a presentment (fn. n3) of a jury in Yorkshire made against William Senvys, kinsman to my said neighbours, which they say is untrue, and they request that he may have indifferent judgment. I send also a paper, written on both sides the leaf, which the said Senvys wrote to his said friends, showing that in the time of the late rebellion he was honest, and the provost (fn. n4) and bailey deserved punishment for concealment. I trust you will remember my suits for lord Darcy's lands in Lincolnshire. Since my coming to my lady my mother since the 1st day of August she has been continually sick, which prevented me doing my duty to you when the King was at Ampthill and Grafton. Dated at head: 16 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Privy Seal. Endd.
16 Oct. 926. Sir Thomas Wentworth to Cromwell.
R. O. I have received a letter from your Lordship, and perceive Mr. Leighton has complained that I have forfeited my lease of the parsonage of Leyth. I promised Mr. Perpoynt 100 mks. "on my departing out of these parts," and I was commanded to convey lord Hussey and others, so I had no time for business, but left in my lord Chancellor's hands 40l. for Mr. Perpoynt. "And then weynyng to me that Master Leighton had kept promise with me," Sir Ralph Eyvers has taken the profits, by Leighton's means, that I could not pay Mr. Perpoynt. He, since my coming from London, did neither send nor write his mind. He has in his hands 200 mks. of mine these three years, as Garet, the scrivener, knows, of which I have not received 20 nobles. At my coming away Mr. Leighton had of me 10l. I have delivered the lease to your servant, Mr. Wryghte, according to your command. Mr. Leighton knows I cannot be with your Lordship to make answer, and is the more bold. 16 Oct.
Hol, pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
16 Oct. 927. Bishop Roland Lee to Cromwell.
R. O. In favour of the bearer, Mr. Corbett, of Leghe. Shrewsbury, 16 October. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Crumwell lord Privy Seal. Endd.
16 Oct. 928. The Mayor and Council of Plymouth to Cromwell.
R. O. Have received his letters for the discharge of certain Frenchmen and Spaniards by whom a fray was lately made. Gives an account of the fray, which was on land between the crews of two ships at the quay. A Frenchman, a Spaniard, and an Englishman who tried to keep the peace, were hurt. Arrested 19 persons and kept them till the party hurt was compensated and a reasonable fine made with the town. The ships never encountered. Plymouth, 16 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
16 Oct. 929. Margaret Queen of Scotland to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P. v. 119.
Since the departure of Mr. Sadler she has been in great trouble and could get no messenger to the King. The King her son has stayed sentence in the divorce between her and lord Meffen and at the instigation of this Harry Stwart (sic) lord of Meffen, because "as he leges" (as he alleges) she would go to England and marry him that was earl of Angus. Has given the King her son her victual of Dunbar, 54 "chaders" of victual for 500 mks. Scots; but is no better treated. Complains bitterly of her troubles and the ill reports of lord Meffen and his brother. Will go into some house of religion if she gets no remedy. Desires the King to send some special servant to Scotland. Has no place to dwell in "but into a town," which is dishonour to the King that she, his sister, should be so treated. Dwnde, 16 Oct.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Sealed.
16 Oct. 930. La Rochepot to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I received yesterday at Nouyon your letter of Oct. 4, informing me that the Flemings detained by Jacques La Myre and other men of my ships, have not yet been delivered, although I had given express commands to La Myre to let them go, as I wrote to you before. I will take measures that the thing shall be done. I thank you for the good will you show. Abbeville, 16 Oct. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.
16 Oct. 931. Sir Thos. Wyatt to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I write no news because the bearer can inform you of all. Let this suffice for my excuse in this little leisure. Commend me to my lady. At Barbastra beside Mountzon, (fn. n5) 16 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais.
932. Durford Abbey. (fn. n6)
R. O. Extracts from the "Valor" of Durford Abbey (see Valor Eccl. i. 321) showing the clear yearly value at 91l. 16s. "which amounteth after 20 years' purchase" to 1,836l. Signed by Sir Richard Ryche and John Onley.
Latin, large paper, pp. 2.
17 Oct. 933. J. Croke to Cromwell.
R. O. I have made search, as commanded, in the rolls, and send copies of all I have found touching the Marches of Wales for fees granted by the King. The Rolls, 17 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Privy Seal. Endd.
17 Oct. 934. Richard Layton, Priest, to Cromwell.
R. O. As the letters which, at my last being with you, I delivered from the convent of Whittham, for a farm of theirs, purported (as I might conjecture by their letters to me) not so full a grant to your lordship as I wished, directly after my departure for Harrow I sent a servant with letters desiring them to make as full a grant as they could. This I suppose they have done, as I may conjecture by their letters to me, which I enclose. In case one Basyng make suit to you for any former grant the foolish prior should make him, the convent has now made you a grant, and the prior's grant without the convent is nothing. Harowe, 17 October.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Cromwell, lord Privy Seal. Endd.: Dr. Layton.
17 Oct. 935. John Babington to Cromwell.
R. O. This day, the vigil of St. Luke, I have heard tidings which I trust are untrue, i.e., that the King is dead. This is sprung by the hasty riding of the duke of Norfolk in post through Newark. No doubt the Council has provided for the succession according to the last Act of Parliament, and I trust true subjects will stick to that. I pray God save his Grace and send us a prince, "which some say that we have." I doubt not but by his Grace's will your lordship is in special trust. Jesus send this tidings untrue. Kynston.
Hol. p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
17 Oct. 936. Sir Cuthbert Radclyff to Cromwell.
R. O. In accordance with Cromwell's letters dated London, 17 Sept., offered the stuff remaining in Alnwick castle in their custody to Ric. Gyll and Tristram Brathtwayte, servants of the late Sir Ingram Percy, but they declined it unless they had all other implements of household that belonged to the late earl of Northumberland, such as the great brew leads of the castle and other brewing stuff, which has been there these 80 years and more. Cannot deliver these without further orders. Alnwick, 17 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Sealed. Add.: Lord Privy Seal, president of the King's Council. Endd.
18 Oct. 937. Sir William Fitzwilliam Earl of Southampton.
See Grants in October, Nos. 19 and 21.
18 Oct. 938. Sir Edward Seymour Earl of Hertford.
See Grants in October, No. 22.
18 Oct. 939. Creations.
Add. MS.
6,113, f. 87.
B. M.
Account of the creation of the earls of Hertford and Southampton. Upon St. Luke's day the 6th day after the birth of the foresaid (fn. n7) prince Edward, Thursday, 18 Oct. 1537, 29 Hen. VIII., was viscount Beauchamp created earl of Hertford, and Sir Wm. Fitzwilliam, lord Admiral, created earl of Southampton.
When the King had heard mass, the lords went into the King's closet to put on their robes, and Fitzwilliam wore his collar of the Garter. Then Norfolk, Exeter, and Sussex being in their robes and collars, they went to the presence chamber, where the King was standing under his cloth of estate accompanied by his nobles. There lord Beachamp was presented first, being preceded by the officers of arms, and Garter King bearing his patent of creation, which was then presented by the earl of Oxford, Great Chamberlain, to the King, who delivered it to lord Thomas Crumwell, "then Secretary." Sussex bare his sword with the pommel upwards, and the viscount was led by Norfolk and Exeter. Crumwell read the patent aloud, and at the words cincturam gladii the King girt the sword about his left shoulder. Then the said lord Secretary read out the letters patent and delivered them to the King, who gave them to the earl of Hertford, who thanked the King.
The lord Admiral was created earl of Southampton in all points as the earl of Hertford had been. The earls then proceeded to the Council chamber to their dinners, &c. "Md., the earl of Southampton was created after the said earl of Hertford for default of estates present in their robes to accompany them both at once."
Knights made the same day:—Sir Thomas Hennage, Sir Thomas Seymere, Sir Ric. Longe, Sir Wm, Coffyn, Sir Mich. Lister, Sir Henry Knyvet. (After each name except Seymere's is the figure "20s.")
Gifts given by the said earls to the officers of arms and the household paid and delivered by Mr. John Thynne and Mr. John Chatterton. the earls' servants.
"Md. that the said officers of arms received for their diets and attendance at Hampton Court, at the christening of my lord Prince Edward, xl. marks, paid by the hands of master Gostwike, treasurer of the dismes, tenths, and first fruits."
Pp. 5.
Egerton MS.,
985, f. 38.
B. M.
2. Another copy of the above, without the final memorandum. In a later hand, pp. 5.
E. i. 163.
B. M.
3. Fees at the creation of Edw. Seymour earl of Hertford and Wm. Fitzwilliam earl of Southampton.
Payments to officers of arms, trumpets, sewers, &c. detailed. Total, 29l. 5s.
Copy, in a later hand, p. 1. Endd.: "A note of an earl's creation, the fees, &c."
18 Oct. 940. Richard Gresham to Cromwell.
R. O. The 29th inst. shall be my feastful day, and I hope that your Lordship and my lord Chancellor will be there with other noblemen; also the ambassadors of the Emperor and the French king, with other strangers, the judges and serjeants at law, &c, "I do suppose upon 400 measse." I beg you will move the King to give me some of his does. London, Thursday, 18 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: Richard Gresham.
18 Oct. 941. Wm. Lord Sandys to Cromwell.
R. O. Was much disappointed not to have given his attendance on the King and Cromwell. Desires his favour to the bearer, a poor old man who was one of the retinue of Calais and married the wife of a stranger, "by whom the same Adrian Doggon hath had a daughter, which daughter is married to one in Calais against this old man's will, whose husband would have from this old man such land as he had by his wife: whereupon the poor man seeking the further state of the same land, found it confiscate to the King's Majesty by the laws at Guisnes by reason it was purchased by a stranger being no denizen." He complained to the King, who in consideration of his long service gave him the land by patent. But now a trial has arisen if the purchaser were a denizen or a stranger, for if he were a stranger the King's gift is good, if a denizen it is void. But it was proved before me when I was on the commission there that he was a stranger. He now desires your Lordship's letters to those having the hearing of the case for indifferent justice. Assher, 18 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
18 Oct. 942. Rauff Earl of Westmoreland to Cromwell.
R. O. Begs favour for his son, whom he now sends up to the King. Can never recompense Cromwell's goodness. Andrew Thomson, whom the lord President and Council and his neighbours can report to be a "troublesome naughty fellow," has gone up to complain to Cromwell of being evicted from his house by the earl. He was found by three inquests a naughty fellow and suspected receiver of thieves, and the house stood very ill, "nigh to no company nor neighbour." "If I had known afore that I had any house standing in such a suspect ground as that is, it should have been taken down long ere now." Credence for his son, the bearer. Brauncepeth, St. Luke's day. Signed
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
18 Oct. 943. James FitzJohn of Desmond.
R. O.
St. P. ii. 517.
Articles of submission of James FitzJohn of Desmond, challenger to the earldom of Desmond now in his possession, exhibited to the King's commissioners, 18 Oct. 29 Henry VIII.
Will be the King's subject, obey his laws, pay rent for the lease of Crom and Adare and other of Kildare's lands in Munster; will suffer taxes to be levied within his rule (as Ossory, the baron of Delvyn and others do); will not ally himself with the King's enemies, will maintain the cites of Limerick and Cork and towns of Youghall, Kinsale, &c, and will keep Munster at peace. Jas. FitzMaurice, his rival, is a bastard and traitor "of high treason." Has promised to deliver to the commissioners his eldest son Thomas in pledge.
Endd.: Tharticles of Desmond.
R. O. 2. Another copy.
Pp. 2.
18 Oct. 944. Cardinal Pole.
Chigi MS. Notice (from the Diaria Martinellis) of the reception of the cardinal of England in a special public consistory, Friday (fn. n8), 18 Oct. 1537, on his return from his unsuccessful legation to England. The Cardinals led and accompanied the legate ad Capellam Magnam.
Latin. Extract from a modem copy in R. O.
19 Oct. 945. Sir William Poulet to Cromwell.
R. O. This bringer, your old servant, may now be advanced in the King's service, if any of the clerks of the Kitchen or Green Cloth be taken into my lord Prince's service: for by removing of one divers shall rise. Please speak for him and write to Mr. Comptroller to favour him. Assher, 19 October.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: Mr. Treasurer.
946. Sir Thos. Palmer to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I have received three letters from you, and am rejoiced to find your lordship always one man. Every one is not of your fashion, silentium in claustro. I beg to be recommended to my lady. Both the King and my lord Privy Seal are good lords unto me; yet considering the charge I have, I would gladly see it discharged at home. I go to Court to-morrow, and do not intend to return to London until I have taken my leave of the King and the Court. I have spent 50l. and 50 groats. I had need to make small banquets at Calais. If I give the ward their breakfast this year, as I am accustomed, I have a dozen were like to go without their dinners for it. I trust my friends will take it ultimum posse non est esse. I am a good scholar to learn so much Latin in so little space. Next week the treasurer will receive our wages. I shall come home with him for company's sake, though I have nothing to receive. I long to be with you and beg to be commended to my lords and masters of the council. I trust they are all in life and charity (?), I am clean in my soul and in my purse. You know the two earls made on St. Luke's day. Mr. Long, Mr. Hennage, Mr. Coffyn. Mr. Thos. Seymour, Mr. Lyster, and 2 others were made knights.
I wrote in my last letter that "I was ramplied with malyncoly. At thys owre Capptain Reson hath subdued malyncoly and all ys at rest."
Hol., p. 1. Add: Deputy of Calais.
19 Oct. 947. Latimer to Cromwell.
R. O.
St. P. i. 571.
L.'s Remains
p. 385.
Edw. vi.
i. xxiii.
Here is no less rejoicing at the birth of our prince, whom we hungered for so long, than there was at the birth of John the Baptist, as the bearer Master Evance can tell you. God give us grace to be thankful. He has overcome all our illness with his exceeding goodness, so that we are now more than compelled to serve him, seek his glory, promote his word, if the Devil of all Devils be not in us. We have now the stop of vain trusts and the stay of vain expectations: let us all pray for his preservation. And I for my part will wish that his grace always have, and even now from the beginning, governors, instructors, and officers of right judgments, ne optimum ingenium non optima educatione depravetur. 19 Oct., Hartlebury.
Advises him to excite the bearer to be more hearty against the abuse of imagery and more forward to promote the verity.
Hol. Add.: Privy Seal.
19 Oct 948. Gardiner to Lord Lisle.
R. O. No news but what all the world knows. The French king is making great preparations to pass over the Mountains, but all will not be ready till the end of the month. The Turk withdrew without doing any notable act and has lost his reputation. The Venetians who always favoured the Turk, have now procured a league against him. The Emperor has taken a castle beside Narbonne to countervail the taking of Hesdin. People are weary of this game. Commendations to my Lady. Lyons, 19 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais.
19 Oct. 949. Cardinal Pole.
Episc. Succ.
ii. 281.
19 Oct. 1537:—Cardinal Pole gave an account, in Consistory, of his legation.
Lat. Printed from a Vatican MS.
20 Oct. 950. Cromwell to Sir Thos. Wyat.
Harl. MS.
282. f. 215.
B. M.
Nott's Wyatt
As the King addresses this bearer to the Emperor to signify the birth of the Prince, and his instruction will suffice, I forbear to molest you with long letters, and only require you to handle your last commission, so that at the return of the bearer, Mr. Dudley, the King may know the Emperor's good inclination towards him. St. James beside Westminster, 20 Oct.
The King desires answer by Mr. Dudley of the matter touching Digneley, which his Grace has specially to heart. Remember what was last written touching the letters addressed from my lady Mary. Signed.
In Wriothesley's hand, p. 1. Add.: Ambassador. Endd. by Wyat: My Lord Privy Seal in October, "by Sir John Duddeley, at Barbastra."
20 Oct. 951. Lady Throgmerton to Mr. Parre.
R. O. Good brother, Mr. Throkmerton is in trouble, as I think you know. Come up here immediately on the coming of my son to you; as I think you have business here this term. Not that I desire you to speak to my lord Privy Seal for him, but merely to give me your best counsel what to do for the help of him and myself [and my children]. (fn. n9) "I doubt not but [for] all his trouble and business the King will"—— * * *
P. 1. The lower half of the letter is lost. Add.: To mi brother Parre. Endd.: My lady Throgmerton—Oct. xxo.
952. Sir George Throkmorton to [Henry VIII.].
R.O. About six or seven years ago conversed with Sir Thos. Dyngley in the garden at St. John's about the Parliament matters. Dyngley wondered that the Act of Appeals should pass so lightly, and Throgmorton said it was no wonder as few would displease my lord Privy Seal. Told Sir Thomas he had been sent for by the King after speaking about that Act, and that he saw his Grace's conscience was troubled about having married his brother's wife. "And I said to him that I told your Grace I feared if ye did marry Queen Anne your conscience would be more troubled at length, for it is thought ye have meddled both with the mother and the sister. And his Grace said 'Never with the mother.' And my lord Privy Seal standing by said 'Nor never with the sister either, and therefore put that out of your mind.'" This was in substance all their communication. Intended no harm to the King, but only out of vainglory to show he was one that durst speak for the common wealth; otherwise he refuses the King's pardon and will abide the most shameful death.
Was asked by my lord Privy Seal to write what other communication he may have had about the King at the Queen's Head or elsewhere; which is very hard for him to do. Reported the same conversation to Sir Thos. Englefelde at Serjeants Inn, and, he believes, to Sir William Essex; also, he rather thinks, to Sir Will. Barentyne. Essex, Barentyne, Sir John Gyfforde, Sir Marmaduke Constable and others did much use the Queen's Head at dinner and supper. Caused all servants to withdraw when they conversed of Parliament matters, but made no appointments to meet. Begs the King to have pity on his wife and children, for the service that he and his blood have done to the King's ancestors, considering how at Grafton he pardoned the writer all things concerning the Parliament, &c.
As to his unthrifty and unnatural brother, the writer met at dinner, at St. John's last Midsummer, Sir Thos. Dyngley and a young man whom he believed to dwell with Ric. Fermour. The one (he thinks the latter) told him "Your brother Michael is in good health, for I saw him of late in Antwerp in a chapel at mass." Replied that he would he had never been born. Has heard that he wrote a letter to Dr. Wotton since his departure. Has written to him since by my lord Privy Seal's mind, "which I will surely follow, both upon him and his master, (fn. n10) and if it be to Rome yates, to die, upon them both in that quarrel, if your Grace's pleasure be I shall so do." Regrets having shown these matters to any man, but would rather be imprisoned for life than live at large in the King's indignation.
Explains his conduct since the beginning of the Parliament of 21 Hen. VIII. Just before that Parliament friar Peto, who was in a tower in Lambeth over the gate, sent for him and showed him two sermons that he and another friar had made before the King at Greenwich, and reported a long conversation he had had with the King in the garden after the sermon. He said he had told the King that he could have no other wife while the Princess Dowager lived unless he could prove carnal knowledge between prince Arthur and her; which he said was impossible, as she, who knew best, had received the Sacrament to the contrary, and she was so virtuous that her word deserved more credit than all the other proofs; that prince Arthur's saying that he had been in the midst of Spain was probably but a light word; and that the King could never marry Queen Anne as it was said he had meddled with the mother and the daughter. He moreover advised Throgmorton if he were in the Parliament house to stick to that matter, as he would save his soul. Shortly after the beginning of the Parliament, when he had "reasoned" to the Bill of Appeals, Sir Thos. More, then Chancellor, sent Saye for him to come and speak with him in the Parliament chamber, "where, as I do remember me, stood an altar, or a thing like unto an altar, whereupon he did lean; and, as I do think, the same time the bishop of Bath was talking with him." Sir Thomas said he was glad to hear that he was so good a Catholic and that, if he continued, he would deserve great reward of God and thanks at length of the King. Took so much pride of this that he went shortly after to the bp. of Rochester with whom he had much conversation about the Acts of Appeals, Annates and Supremacy, and the authority given by our Lord to Peter. The last time he was with him the bp. gave him a book of his own device on the subject; which book he delivered to my lord Privy Seal at his house at Austin Friars. The bp. also advised him to speak with Mr. Wilson, which he did at St. Thomas the Apostle's, who also showed him divers bocks noted with his own hand, to confirm the same opinion. Went afterwards to Syon to one Reynolds, of whom he was confessed, and showed him his conscience in all these causes; who advised him to stick to his opinion to the death, else he would surely be damned, and also not to hold his peace in Parliament even if he thought his speaking could not prevail. This was against the opinion of the bp. of Rochester and Mr. Wylson, but Reynolds said he did not know how he might encourage others in the house to do the same. It was these counsels that blinded him so long; but he now asks pardon, having perceived his error by reading the New Testament and The Institution of a Christian Man. Prays for the prosperous estate of the King and his little son prince Edward.
Hol., pp. 9. A blank leaf found apart, but apparently belonging to this document is docketed: Concerning Sir Thomas Dyngley.
R. O. 2. Fair copy of the preceding.
Pp. 6. Endd.: Towchinge Sir Thomas Dyngeley.
953. Sir George Throgmorton.
R. O. Interrogatories to be ministered to Sir George Throgmerton.
First where he says "that it is thought, &c.," let him be examined whom he ever heard say any such thing of the King. (2.) Where, when, and why he spoke "those words" to Sir Wm. Essex, and what conversation ensued. (3.) Ditto with Sir Wm. Barentyne. (4.) Whether he communicated the matter to any other. (5–6.) Whether he thought the words true and why. (7–8.) Whether he did not think the words very slanderous to any man's good name. (9.) Whether he knew not that Sir Thomas Dingley was a man sometime travelling in far countries, whereby he might the rather spread abroad the said infamy. (10–15.) Whether he thinks such reports conducive to the peace of the common weal or fitting for a true subject to spread.
Pp. 2. Endd.
20 Oct. 954. G. Earl of Shrewsbury to Cromwell.
R. O. I perceive the continuance of your favour by the good speed my servant John Leek had, at his late being with you, touching the King's grant to me of Rufford, Rotherham, and other lands; for which I thank you. Touching my lady of Northumberland's causes I will send counsel to the King's council shortly, as you desire. I beg your favour to her, and to me touching the duty I ought to have of the late lord Darcy's lands. Sheffield Lodge, 20 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Sealed. Endd.
20 Oct. 955. Katharine Countess of Northumberland to Cromwell.
Vesp. F. xiii.
83 b.
B. M.
Is bound during life to pray for the King and his lordship for the great pains he has sustained for her unto his Majesty, who has restored to her her goods and lands. Thos. Kelke, late deceased, was keeper of Catton, and had the herbage of the park with her cattle for 7 or 8 years past for the keeping of her house, for his trusty service done to her late husband; but the new keeper, John Eglisfelde, has put out her cattle. Begs that she may have her the herbage of the said park again. Catton, 20 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
20 Oct. 956. Edmund Coll and Adam Mytton, "Bailiffs of Salop," to Cromwell.
R. O. Received, 17 Oct., Cromwell's letters dated Mortlake, 4 Oct., and perceive that his Lordship wrote to the late bailiffs of Salop, Nic. Pursell and Roger Lewys, for one Hugh Wotton to be town clerk. Thursday before St. Matthew's day last, at a common hall, the said Hugh, at the contemplation of Cromwell's former letters and the instance of Roland bp. of Coventry and Lichfield, president of the Council in the Marches of Wales, and of Sir Thomas Englefild, deceased, it was concluded, by the voice of Richard Yemans of the common council, that Wotton should enjoy the office on the death of Thomas Cowper who now occupies it. Never knew Wotton to be a contentious man, but know he was born and dwells in the town, and is thought most apt for the room. Salop, 20 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
20 Oct. 957. John Hutton to Cromwell.
R. O.
St. P. vii. 713.
Delivered to the Regent Cromwell's letter, dated Mortlake the 10th, received by Francis the courier. Was desired to give in a written statement of grievances, which he accordingly prepared and presented next day. Sends copy. Was told it was committed to the abp. of Palermo and the Chancellor Negryn to examine. Avoided speaking of the matter mentioned in Cromwell's letter till yesterday, when he accompanied her out of Brussels towards Namur. Told her he had letters from France that the French king "wold yet efft wons one pilgrimage over the mowntayns." She said she did not believe Francis would go, but that the Dauphin was preparing. Told her his letters spoke of peace as probable by her good help. She said she would be glad to promote it, but had little hope. "Why, Madam," said Hutton, "will not the French king be contented, having rendered unto him the duchy of Milan, the which, as I am informed, you have made offer to do?" She laughed and said his news were written by a Frenchman. Said the writer was a friend of his who knew many secrets, and had reported to him some "vile cedisscions" against the King his master in the treaty between the Emperor and the French king—things that he would be loth to write home. She said it was not the first "bowrd" the Frenchmen had invented, and no one could justify the statement. Istilsteyn then interrupted the conversation, and Hutton took leave of her.
This day Liskirke departed towards Cambray with Mr. George Displegan to meet Commissioners from France; but it is said to be only to redress depredations since the abstinence. The abp. of Treves and other great men of Almain meet the Regent at Namur, but whereof they shall treat he cannot discover. Has just heard of the birth of a prince. Brussels, 20 Oct.
Hol. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.


  • n1. Husee's information was evidently very inaccurate.
  • n2. The Augmentations
  • n3. See No. 436 (2).
  • n4. Robert Nevill, provost of Rotherham College. See Valor Eccl. v. 44.
  • n5. Balbastro beside Monçon.
  • n6. Granted to Fitzwilliam, 17 Oct. 1536. See Grants in Oct., No. 19.
  • n7. This is a continuation in the same hand of No. 911.
  • n8. (Sic). The 18th of October was, however, Thursday in 1537.
  • n9. These words are crossed out.
  • n10. Cardinal Pole.