Henry VIII: February 1515, 21-28

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1864.

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February 1515

21 Feb.
Calig. D. VI. 216. B. M.
Had offered Wolsey's services to the French King and showed him his inclination for peace; for which Francis thanked him and said he should find him as loving and kind as his predecessor. He was willing that Wolsey should have the bishopric of Tournay, "and not only that, but the best in France if ye wold take it;" and promised to take steps accordingly and write to him himself. "We answered him that so doing he did well, for ye were he that might do most pleasure for him for the obtaining of his mind in the premises. My Lord of Suffolk hath also written a letter to the King in the matter of Tournay, the copy whereof is closed herein, to the intent ye may see the continue thereof, and as ye think good either to deliver it to his grace or else to keep it still." They have also written one to Wolsey, my Lord of Norfolk and my Lord of Winchester, to secure their assistance in the matter, but leave it to Wolsey to read it first and impart it to them or not as he pleases. Paris, 21 Feb. Signed.
P. S.—Instead of sending a copy of his letter as he intended, Suffolk sends the original, "containing many matters, inclosed to [you, that] you may read it and deliver it or retain as ye [shall] seem good.
P. 1, mutilated. Add.: To my [Lor]d of Yorkys owne hand.
21 Feb.
R. O.
177. WEST to WOLSEY.
By their letters, my lord's letters apart and the French King's Wolsey will understand matters. Will not fail by means of Suffolk to labor with the French King in this matter of Tournay. Desires a private letter how Wolsey liked their demeanor. Paris, 21 Feb.
P. 1. Add.: To, &c., my Lord Abp. of York.
21 Feb.
[Calig. E. I. II.?] 158. B. M.
Has received his most kind letter. Had written before to him and the King, enclosing the letters of the French King and Queen to the King. Begs always to have short answer from Wolsey, as he is resolved to follow his advice. Recommends to his attention the business of Tournay. Paris, 21 Feb.
Hol., p. 1, mutilated. Add.: To me Lord of Yourke.
21 Feb.
R. O.
Has received his letter dated Greenwich, the 12th, by the Duke of Suffolk. There was no occasion to thank him for his treatment of Mary. As De la Guiche has since then arrived in France with news from England will redispatch him thither. Paris, 21 Feb. Signed.
Fr., p. 1 (broad sheet). Add.
22 Feb.
R. O.
Wrote last on the 18th. The Archduchess and Lord Berghes have showed him that the Lord Nassau and other the Prince's ambassadors have advertised that there is a great rumor at the French court that the French Queen shall be married to my Lord of Suffolk. The Frenchmen are content. The Archduchess and Berghes cannot believe it and think it is a false surmise to the Queen's dishonor. Has given Wolsey sole information, as he was snubbed for having written on similar matters before. The original letters have been sent by Chievres to the Emperor. Begs his servant Ichyngham may be sent to him. Antwerp, 22 Feb. 1514.
P. 1. Add.: Reverendissimo, &c. Thomae Archiepiscopo Eboracensi.
Midland Circuit.—John Jenour and John Felgate with Humph. Conyngesby and Guy Palmes. Westm., 22 Feb.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 22d.
22 Feb. 182. For SIR JAS. STRANGWAYS.
Exemption from serving on juries, &c., and from being made mayor or other officer. Westm., 22 Feb.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 24.
23 Feb.
R. O.
183. CLARENCIEUX to [the EARL OF WORCESTER], Lord Chamberlain.
Since he came from Rouen has received his letters by the hands of the Dean of Windsor. Accordingly has made fresh suit to the French King, the General and Robertet, as is necessary. Francis had desired Suffolk and Mr. Dean [Sampson] to satisfy my Lord of York as to the bishopric of Tournay and promised to write in that behalf. Clarencieux has delivered the letter to Suffolk, Mr. Dean has labored much in the matter. Sends him a bill of wines he has purchased: those of Orleans are little worth this year, those of Anjou worse. The ambassadors wish him to be one of the commission to take possession of the lands of the Queen's dowry. They wish to name Anthony Spynolla on the commission. Would "liever go [to] Rome than to be in his company, for he is called here as false and as lewd as liveth, &c. As for your prymers I have bought and put them to be well lymelled, for Spanish blade I can get none here." Paris, 23 Feb.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
23 Feb.
R. O.
Suffolk desires to know the King's pleasure touching Tournay. If Francis can have hope of Tournay upon reasonable conditions all matters will be easily adjusted. Paris, 23 Feb.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: [To], &c. my Lord of York.
23 Feb.
S. B.
To be subclerk of the Parliament, during pleasure. Del. Westm., 23 Feb. 6 Hen. VIII.
23 Feb.
S. B.
186. For RICHARD REDE, late of Petersfelde, Hants, yeoman of the Guard, alias soldier of Tournay.
Protection: going in the King's suite for defence of the said city. Del. Westm., 23 Feb. 6 Hen. VIII.
Fr. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 16.
24 Feb. 187. For the PRIOR and CONVENT OF MALMESBURY.
Congé d'élire on death of Ric. Frampton, their abbot. Westm., 24 Feb.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 29.
24 Feb.
S. B.
Pardon, as of Chytterne, Wilts, alias of Gyllyngham, Dors. Del. Westm., 24 Feb. 6 Hen. VIII.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 24.
26 Feb.
Calig. D. VI. 169. B. M.
The Prince of Castile's ambassadors labor for the marriage betwixt [their master] and the second daughter of France (the Princess Renée), and also for [the treaty] betwixt the French King and them, but without success, for the French King and the Great Master told him they would conclude nothing without Henry's knowledge and advice. "[Sir], I can in nowise be content in my mind to see the said Prince treat of any such matters without [your] knowledge, considering the great goodness that your grace showed them in all their affairs and necessities; for it is to be supposed they would band with the King against your grace if they could bring it about, as I trust they shall not; for I would not for any good, that they should be comprised on the French King's part, without that your grace had of them [that] that your grace can rightfully demand. Where- fore, and it please your grace to join with the said French King, friend to friend, and enemy to enemy, not excepted the Pope and the See Apostolic, and to make none [compre]henseun, but only of the said Pope and the See Apostolic; and over that to make no treaty of amity with any prince without the express con[sent of] both. Sir, I think this should be a singular ... for this matter, and for hoddar to gryth ... scholdbe gryttylle to your honner the to ... tys and the todar es tochyng ... howme you may not ondylle ryc ... as he maid you spynd bout all soo ... as you have by the Queen your wife ... I perceive that the said French King ... said King of Arragon in none wise ... As I rode towards the Queen your sister's ... Bonywyet with me, we met with the ... nwarhon caum into the town, and accompanied [with] the most part of all the princes of France with Monser himself. And so Bonnivet [told] me that the King his master would set him in ... ryen (?) or else he would lyes (lose) his head. Whereby I perceive [he] has a marvelous mind against him; and therefore, and your grace thinks my poor mind good, your grace may show it into such of your Council as you shall think good, as it cam on your [own] mind and not of me. And, Sir, if your pleasure be [to] go forth in this matter, your grace must instruct me with all diligence that it may [be] concluded before the confirmation of the od .. treaty, because that it may be put in a arth[ycle] in the same (?) Sir, I am bold to write your grace t[hus] my poor mind, because that it hath pleased you hall[ways] to hear my poor mind, and the rather because you said to me at my parting that, and you joun[ed] the French King, that you would joun with him ... And, Sir, as far as I can perceive, you shall n[ot] ... et a more steadfast prince nor one mo[re] ... attyed. And, Sir, seeing the appearance of ... es Prince and the instableness of ... if you have had good experience ... conseddar the same accordingly. [I beseech your gr]ace that none see this letter but me [Lord of York?] Sir, I by (beseech?) your grace that I may have answer by this bearer in all the haste. And, Sir, at the [writ]ing of this letter I had none answer from [your] grace of the re past I had sent your grace." Paris, 26 Feb.
Hol., pp. 3, mutilated. Add.: To the King's Grace.
26 Feb.
Calig. D. VI. 167. B. M.
Had written by the present bearer to the King and desired him to show the despatch to none but Wolsey. Hopes they will further the execution of the contents. Two things had induced him to state his opinion: (1.) "that he showed me at my departing from his grace that in case he should join in amity with the French King, that the same should be in a more firm and loving manner than any of their predecessors had done heretofore; (2.) the second for that ... with more fervent desire ... coveteth the perfect amity of ... And as far as I can imagine, [I] esteem the amity with us afore all things." More over, thinks the King shall find him a veritable prince of his word. Thinks the amity would be for the honor and weal of both realms. Paris, 26 Feb. (The letter is in the hand of Sir Richard Wingfield.)
P.S. (in Suffolk's own hand.) Prays Wolsey to show the King, "that an sen by that the Queen have not such things as she has given him, I doubt not but that she shall have a good appointment, and some of it; of all which her grace and I both are content to let the King take what he lest, whether it [were] money, jewel or plate, whatsoever it be." Signed.
Pp. 3. Add.: To my Lord of York.
26 Feb.
Calig. D. VI. 178. B. M.
This afternoon, after he had "dyes[patched the] armenschawes," Richmond brought him the King's letters, one of them written with the King's own hand, for which he felt specially grateful. Prays he may live no longer than he may [do] the thing "that schall be oddarwyes dyn to your [hono]ur." Sends by the bearer another letter on divers matters, which he trusts his grace will take in good part, and begs to know his pleasure as shortly as may be. As to harness here, it is not possible to recover more than Mr. ... has promised already, which he says shall be ready. This day have ended all feats of arms for this tournay; "and the ... this day was on foot at the barrier ... styng gawallemes and morrespykes and won ... sourdys, which was a proper feat." Paris, 26 ..., at night.
Hol., mutilated, p. 1. Add.
26 Feb.
Calig. D. VI. 171. B. M.
Has received his letters by Richmond, assuring him of his friendship, which, he says, he shall never forget "to me dyyng [da]y." Wolsey will receive another letter by this bearer, expressing his opinion in divers matters. Touching Tournay, he will find it hard to get any land out of the French King's hand, but he will assay it. Wishes he could obtain for the King a reasonable income. Paris, 26 Feb.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To my Lord of York.
26 Feb.
R. O.
Will received letters herewith. Without his help the conduit at Calais must remain unfinished. Begs he may have, before the latter end of March, a farm of the King's at Calais, called Cowswade, of which he had written before. Paris, 26 Feb. 1514. Signed.
P. 1. Add. as before.
26 Feb.
Otho, C. IX. 14. B. M.
Had informed him of the expedition of Selim against the Sophi. When he had entered the enemy's province, and found them bare of provisions he advanced into the country as far as the borders of Belgrade (?) (quousque Tauritanos fines), losing many by famine and pestilence. The generals of the Sophi divided their army into two. A fierce battle took place. The army of Selim was pressed so hard that it could scarcely defend itself, much less succor their fellows from Greece. They are both so weakened that the Turk has abandoned the land of the Sophi, more in the guise of a flight than a retreat; and at a rapid river in Cappadocia, not waiting the ford, he lost many of his troops and 30 of his guns, just as the 25,000 Georgian cavalry came up. The Turk is at Amasia. The whole of the East favors the Sophi against the Turks, especially Anadola the Turcoman. Selim claims the victory. With an easy effort the Turk may be driven from Europe. Greece is abandoned. Fresh levies are hastening to Asia. Hopes he will not neglect the opportunity. [Rhodes], 26 Feb. 1514.
Pp. 3. Add. Endorsed by Wriothesley.
26 Feb.
S. B.
195. For CHRISTOPHER CUDWORTH, chaplain.
Presentation to the church of Parkham, Exeter dioc., void by the death of Master Prude. Del. Westm., 26 Feb. 6 Hen. VIII.
Wilts.—R. Bp. of Winchester, E. Bp. of Salisbury, Rob. Willoughby Lord Broke, Wm. Lord Stourton, Ric. Elyott, Lewis Pollarde, Sir Walter Hungerforde, Sir Edw. Darell, Sir John Seymour, Sir Hen. Long, Sir John Scrope, Sir Maurice Barowe, Sir Edw. Hungerforde, John Newporte, John Skyllyng, John Gawen, Hen. Pauncevote, Jas. Lowder, Anthony Stylman, Rob. Caylewey and Geo. Morgan. Westm., 26 Feb.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 3d.
27 Feb.
Galba, B. V. 384. B. M.
On Thursday 23 Feb. went to Ghent, trusting the Prince would be there, who did not enter till 8 o'clock on Sunday. "From the place of his entering till he came at the palace, both sides of the street were garnished with torches of wax, from the ground to the highest part of the houses." The Prince's ambassadors in France write that there is a common opinion my Lord of Suffolk should marry the French Queen. They think it a rumor of the French to the dishonor of England, "and in os mych os they may, syns they thynk sche schall be retornyd [to] the grett dishonor of the Queyn, to be assemblyd to that mariage that othy[r] princes or noble men schuld the less regard hyr mariage, for fer and dowth less othyrwys be hyr mariage, whych ys now the grette[st] in Christondom, grett streynth schuld fortown to Inglond." The King's enemies rejoice at it; the King's friends wish to see an alliance between him, the Emperor and the King of Arragon. All men say that whatever is concluded in these matters Wolsey is the doer. Finds Lady Margaret well disposed in the business of Tournay. Will lay before the Council tomorrow Wolsey's rights. Sir Thomas Spinelly has done good service. Does not expect much success. The French party is mighty and the French King has written in favor of the elect. The death of the French King has made a great change. Now that the elect is present, without other provision, Wolsey's administration ceases, as appears by his brief. Greatly regrets things do not succeed better. Gawnt, 27 Feb. 1514.
Hol., pp. 3, mutilated. Add.: My Lord of York.
27 Feb.
Galba, B. III. 292. B. M.
Wrote last on the 14th. The Bastard of Van[dom] coming out of France was met by the Squire Bryssyll and conducted to Louvain. He came to announce the French King's decease and require the Prince's attendance at the coronation. Philip Dale has been well received in France. Being asked who the Prince should marry, he answered, France, Hungary or Portugal. Being asked to which the Prince was most inclined, he answered, "Unto France, by reason of the conformity of the language, of the neybourtie and continual frequentation that been between both the subjects. And so he departed from the King and left him merry." A commission will go into France, consisting of Nassau and others; and considering the anxiety of Nassau to marry the daughter of the Prince of Orange, Spinelly believes the alliance with France will take place.
The Archduchess is much changed since the death of the French King and favors all these practices. The explanations of Berghes are not satisfactory; for he states that the late French King had made the same proposals. John Cawler, the Prince's ambassador, has returned from France for a larger commission. The Emperor has written to Chievres to proceed no further. Letters have come from France of the 25th, stating that the English ambassadors had had their despatch;—that the French intend to keep the Queen, promising to deliver her when the King meets Francis at Abbeville. They report that England has been very anxious for the continuance of the alliance. The ambassador of Arragon told Chievres "that peraventure he reckoned himself to be Emperor, and the graffer of the Toison to be the King his master, considering that they take upon them to marry the Prince, assuring him that if they so did they and other their friends should have no cause to laugh at it." He remonstrated in the same terms with the Archduchess. Gaunt, 27 Feb. 1514. Signed.
Pp. 6, mutilated.
27 Feb.
R. O.
Wrote last on the 22nd. Has heard nothing from him or his servant Ichyngham. Is writing to the King. Whilst at church with Sir Edward Guldefurd heard from my Lord Berghes that the King had written to Francis desiring him "to be pleased" with the marriage of the French Queen with Suffolk. Francis had not yet consented. Lord Johnle and others had laid wagers about it. All that love the King are sorry for such malicious inventions. Gaunt, 27 Feb. 1514. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Rmo., &c., T. Arch[iepiscopo E]boracen. Endd.
27 Feb.
Giust, Desp. I. 46.
Gives an account of the roughness of his journey. Certain merchants have received letters from London of the 12th and 15th from Leonard Friscobald, a very rich merchant. By that of the 12th he says that Henry will maintain peace with Francis I., "who was negotiating for a conference with him, and within three days the conclusion of these negotiations was expected from the Duke of Suffolk, who is at the French court. By those of the 15th he says it is settled that the aforesaid most serene Kings should meet at Calais, and that his majesty of England had despatched a messenger post haste to Florence for a great quantity of cloths of gold and silk, so as to meet this most Christian King with honor." Nothing has been heard of the reported movements among the Switzers, or of the French King going this year into Italy. Lyons, 27 Feb. 1514.
28 Feb.
S. B.
Licence to found a perpetual chantry, of one chaplain, in the chapel of St. Thomas Abp. of Canterbury, Bloxwych, in the parish of Walsall, Staff., for the good estate of the King, Queen Katharine, Thomas Abp. of York, Sir Thomas Lovell, Treasurer of the Household, Henry VII. and Elizabeth his consort, Lady Lovell, late wife of the said Sir Thomas, Anthony Fitzherbert, serjeant at law, Richard Hurst, John and Richard Stooke, &c.; and mortmain licence to alienate to the said chaplain lands to the annual value of 8 marks. Del. Westm., 28 Feb. 6 Hen. VIII.
Berks.—T. Abbot of Abingdon, Rob. Brudenell, Ric. Elyott, John Newporte, Sir Th. Lovell, Sir And. Wyndesore, Sir John Dauncy, Sir Geo. Foster, Sir Th. Fetyplace, Guy Palmes, Ric. Weston, Th. Inglefelde, Wm. Besellys, Sir Wm. Essex, Jas. Strangways, John Fetyplace, Wm. Fetyplace, Th. Wuton, Christ. Belyngham, Geo. Wodward and Wm. Yonge. Westm., 28 Feb.
Pat. 6 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 3d.
R. O.
203. [WOLSEY] to [SUFFOLK].
The King, by advice of the Council, is writing to Suffolk and the other ambassadors in answer to their letters dated Paris, 18 Feb. After consulting with the Council [on Sunday last], (fn. 1) the King called Wolsey apart and bid him write to Suffolk to use all efforts to obtain from the French King his plate of gold and jewels. Doubts not he will succeed if he insist upon it. He would be glad to allow Suffolk to return with the Queen, but not until he has completed her business. Advises him, therefore, "substantially to handle that matter and to stick thereunto; for I assure you the hope that the King hath to obtain the said plate and jewels is the thing that most stayeth his grace constantly to assent that ye should marry his sister; the lack whereof, I fear me, might make him cold and remiss and cause some alteration, whereof all men here, except his grace and myself, would be right glad." Encloses copy of the letter the King has written with his own hand to the French King. Could not induce him by any persuasion to write otherwise; "for his grace thinketh that if he should make plain grant at the first instance of the French King he would think that his grace was agreed to the said marriage before your coming thither, and so consequently the French King might think that ye had not been plain with him." Is to tell the French King that Henry reciprocates his desire for the interview; but, as the amity must first be concluded, Suffolk must, as of his own accord, procure the speedy dispatch of the French ambassadors. He may feel the French King's mind, what pastimes he intends to have and whether he would be content to come to Calais, St. Peter's or some place within the Marches.
Draft in Tuke's hand, corrected by Wolsey; pp. 2, large paper.
Calig. D. VI. 217 B. M.
As they have formerly reported to the King and Wolsey, they expect that the alliance between the French King and the Prince of Castile will take effect, notwithstanding the assurances of the French King, my Lady his mother and Mons. de Boysy that nothing should be concluded without Henry's advice. "Nevertheless, if it do proceed, it shall cause both the French King, the Prince of Castile and their subjects to set much less by our amity; and it is to be feared that the Prince of Castile and his Council that now ruleth about him, upon the pride of the said alliance and amity, woll suddenly arrest the English fleet and cast on the merchants' necks all the arrearages of the Sewestoll and the toll of the Hound, which amounteth to a marvelous great sum, not able to be paid by our merchants without their utter undoing." On which account they recommend that the Prince be not comprehended in the treaty by either party, or that he be comprehended under condition that he keep and confirm the intercourse of merchandise last concluded, paying such sums as they have forfeited to the King for breach of the last treaty of marriage. They propose this at Suffolk's suggestion, as it touches the common weal, though they doubt not Wolsey foresees it. Paris, .. Feb.
P.S.—"My Lord, after this letter was dated, we rec[eived] from the King's grace and from your good lordsh[ip] other writings concerning the Queen's dote. A[nd] as in the King's letters it is mentioned that w[e should] make composition for the Queen's traduction, s[o as] we take no less sum than is contained in y[our letter], we think that no composition but an extremity. Moreover, seeing that she shall have all her stuff r[eturned ?], we think it not reasonable to demand such [sums] as have been laid out by the King's officers f[or] provision of the same, for she may not have both [the] money and the stuff. And sithens it is likely that [we] shall commune with reasonable men, we would be r[ather] loth to demand anything out of reason. Whe[refore] we heartily pray you to know the King's pleasure and father mind in this matter; and by the [next] post we shall certify you of everything more [at] large." Signed.
Pp. 2, mutilated.
Vit. B. XVIII. 132. B. M.
Where in a former [letter I advertized your grace that the] army of Verona was good ... those which were ordained to c[ross the] mountains might pass the surelier ... passed forth to the said purpose, but [a small] river, called Myns, was waxen so high that [they could not] pass at so many passages as was necessary, and [they were] advertised that the Venetians, with the French assist[ing, were in] readiness to meet them at disadvantage where ... again to Verona; and lest that purpose * * * Also the Venetians were advertised that money should [be sent] to Brescia; wherefore they laid a bushment in the w[ay by which] they should pass, and did it so covertly that the Emp[eror] ... or they were war, and the pry ... [was t]akyn which is one of the Earls of Lathron ... other slain and taken. Howbeit, as God would, the mo ... [was] saved, which was a gracious adventure, for and it h[ad not been] Bresse had not failed to have been yolden; but it hath [been seen] this year that God, of his great bounty, giveth comfort to those [who are in] great necessity. And sith he hath increased his army ... with 3,000 footmen, so that they now intend to carry ... to Bresse by force, or else they will be beaten; but it is f ... the enemies will seal them a safeconduct with their ... [when] they shall hear of the quick setting forth of the S[wissers]. Also on that other side in Friole, where the Emperor ke[eps a] garrison of Bohemians in a strong town called Marrane, which ... of the Venetians, twain years past, now of late the ... had corrupted part of the inhabitants, which made [an attempt] to betray the town, whereupon the Venetians sent su[ch persons] as they thought meet for the feat by water at [the time] appointed; and on that other part the Bohemians ... of all the train, and purveyed them sylv[es] ... welcome, and suffered them to enter to ... [as they] thought meet, and then d ... many of the Ve[netians] ... [I pray God a]t this time to visit your grace with [his] ..., [and] preserve the same in prosperous health, with [continuance of] his pleasure and your heart's desire. Written in haste ... of Feby 1515. Sends a minute of such letters [as the] Emperor will write to the King of Hungary. Desires shortly to be informed if Henry is satisfied with them, or has any alteration to propose.
Hol., pp. 2, mutilated.
R. MS. 13 B. II. 233. B. M. Ep. Reg. Sc. I. 196. Adv. MS. 436. 206. JAMES V. to CHRISTIERN KING OF DENMARK.
Has received his letters and the articles from Norge herald, and has had an audience with La Basty. Thanks him for his expressions of goodwill. Has been told how well La Basty was received. He is now in Scotland and will attend to the business which Christiern entrusted to him. Expects Albany daily. The peers are about to meet, to deliberate on Christiern's demands and reply to his herald, on his return from France. Will attend to the complaints of his subjects about goods and ships seized, and La Basty will do the same in France.


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