Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 2, August-December 1545. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1907.
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November 1545, 6-10
6 Nov. | 735. Children of the Chapel Royal. |
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See Grants in November, No. 11. | |
6 Nov. | 736. The Privy Council to Bucler and Mont. |
R. O. St. P., x. 657. |
The King thanks them for their sundry letters, but, perceiving that little fruit follows of their tarrying there, revokes them, Bucler to his presence, and Mont to remain serving as he did before, with the allowances he had by this last commission. They are to repair jointly to the Lantzgrave and declare how they were sent to him and others with commission to know a full determination upon a certain communication had with Mont, but, as no fruit has succeeded, and the protracting of the matter indicates no great desire to end it, the King recalls them. It is true, they may say, that certain overtures were made here by commissioners, not in the name of the whole League but as of themselves, whereupon the King "could make no kind of foundation"; the King remains in such terms of amity with him and others of that League as before, and if they think good to proceed further in such things as have been opened, they shall, upon sending commissaries to the King, have reasonable answer. And here Rieffenberg's untrue service is to be declared, who was received upon the Lantzgrave's recommendation and given a charge fit for a prince, but who, having promised to be in the enemy's country within three days after the musters, protracted the three days to two whole months, and finally, when almost within sight of the enemy's country, having no excuse to protract longer, mutinied upon an unreasonable claim for one month for the horsemen over and above the King's bargain. Further explanation of the ill service and the bargain. They must beg the Lantzgrave to write to Rieffenberg to content himself with reason, the custom being that, in a bargain for three months, the prince may either use the men for the whole three months or for two months, with the entertainment of the third month for their conduct homeward. Rieffenberg a vaunts that whatsoever he has done was with the Lantzgrave's consent; but the King cannot believe it, and trusts to be given no occasion to alter that opinion rooted "in his Grace's stomach." |
In Mason's hand, pp. 6. Endd.: M. to Mr. Bucler and Mr. Munte, vjo Novembr., 1545. | |
6 Nov. | 737. Paget to Gardiner and Thirlby. |
Add. MS. 25,114, f. 340. B. M. |
Skipper has arrived here and had audience. |
His charge was to excuse the Emperor for breaking the interview, to move the King to make truce and to desire that you, Winchester, should be commissioned to conclude upon the renovation of the treaty and the matters of marriage. The King's answer, which he prays you to make to the Emperor, was that he is sorry that the meeting cannot take effect, which should have been to the benefit of both realms and the universal quiet of Christendom, but he must acknowledge the "urgent lettes" which enforce the Emperor to defer it, and that he has no great devotion to the truce which could benefit him little and his enemy much. And here your Lordships should remember your old lesson, the let of their fishing, the stop of their vintage, the empeachment of their traffic, showing yourselves desirous to speak rather of peace; wherein you, Winchester, may not treat with the ambassadors there resident, but only you, Westminster, and Mr. Kern. And in any case keep aloof from talking of truce until there appear no likelihood of peace; and then so to handle the matter that the talk may first proceed from them, and the truce continue for 8 or 10 months at least, "wherein his Majesty doubteth not to hear what you do before you conclude." Concerning commission to treat for the renewing of this treaty with the Emperor, your Lordship was informed by my last letter, saving that this is now added, viz, that you must travail to get Bulloyn and Bullonoys included in the defence with Calais and Guisnes, and that "the noblemen and good towns of both Princes, and especially those in Flanders and the Low Country, may be bound, not as those of France were in the perpetual peace, by the only word of their prince, but by an instrument under their signs and seals." You must tell the Emperor that you have commission upon the marriages (as indeed you shall have shortly); and you, Winchester, know best the overtures of all three. Mary! his Majesty desires that of my Lord Prince advanced most, because he thinks that somewhat may come that way. Tomorrow or next day Skipper shall be dispatched with good words, good countenance, good cheer, &c, having put us in good hope of many things, etc. | |
As for news, the new mole at Bullen goes lustily forward. "My lord Maxwell hath been at a tryst here at the Court and goeth lustily homeward." God send you a short end of your charge lest you make a long voyage,—"I mean your Lordship, my lord of Winchester; for as for you, my lord of Westminster, I am sure you will not willingly return again until you have learnt to speak as much Almain, Italian and Spanish as you did French at the last Diet. Thus I take my leave of your good Lordships, fain to write this letter alone for that I am left alone, the rest gone, some home, some to the term, some a hawking and some a hunting." Wyndesour, 6 Nov. 1545. | |
Hol., pp. 3. Add. | |
6 Nov. | 738. Thomas Hussey to Surrey. |
R. O. | According to your remembrance I moved my lord (fn. n1) touching your silver vessel, hangings and loan of money, but his Grace is clearly resolved to refuse. My advice is to devise some other way to furnish your necessities. "I see my lord's Grace somewhat offended in seeing your private letters to the King's Majesty of such vehemency as touching the animating of the King's Majesty for the keeping of Bowlleyn; and in especial considering his divers letters addressed to your lordship, to the which, as he thinketh, ye have given simple credence; for, what his Grace and the rest of the Council worketh in, for the rendry of Bowleyne and the concluding of a peace, in vj days, ye with your letters set back in six hours, such importance be your letters in the King's opinion at this time. Albeit that my lord concludeth ye may by your practices sustain the same Bowlene for ij or iij months, yet he thinketh it impossible that it may continue vj months, forasmuch as he certainly knoweth the realm of England not possible to bear the charges of the same." The King is indebted above 400,000 mks. Subsidy and other practices at this Parliament will not raise 200,000l. My lord would have you remember the postscript of Mr. Secretary's late letter to you; "and forasmuch as your estate there is thought chargeable, and yet more chargeable if ye should return in the same estate ye went thither, my lord thinketh good that ye be advertised that there is no hope of any recompense out of the King's coffers. Wherefore, if that either the captainship of the castle of Gysnes or the deputyship of Callis might satisfy you, he would notwithstanding prove what might be done for your lordship in that matter, if Bowlleyne be rendered. And for the better proof that the peace is like to take effect (as I think) my lord's Grace is appointed to prepare himself to meet the Admiral of France at the Emperor's Court, by the King's appointment"; and is gone to Kenynghall to put his things ready, and has appointed gentlemen to attend him in this journey. I heard him say "that he had rather bury you and the rest of his children before he should give his consent to the ruin of this realm, not doubting but that ye should be removed in spite of your head, work what ye could." Writes plainly, not doubting but that Surrey will burn these letters, which, for surety, he sends by his own servant. "Letters have been brought to the Kings intelligence written from one friend to another; and if ye shall write any secrecy, send it by a sure person" As to Bowlleyne, "every Councillor saith 'Away with it'; and the King and your lordship saith 'We will keep it; [and at] the writing of this letter, as I have perfect intelligence, there is not remaining in the Council that dare move the rendry thereof, my lord being absent, who will bark in it to his dying day." The Council had much ado to stay the King from sending over 1,500 pioneers and 3,000 men of war for your lately devised fortress; "notwithstanding that the King's Majesty took it in very ill part that ye should adventure your presence in standing upon the bridge of the fortress, for the better viewing of the same, with two Italians, the one called Thomaso, who hath much advanced your hardiness and not forgotten your negligence in adventuring your person so dangerously, notwithstanding that ye had the same Thomaso his advice to the contrary." |
Fulmerston makes no direct answer as to coming to you, and you will get no provision from him without money disbursed. I think that his attendance was, upon the sickness of the secretary, in hope to succeed to the room. Cannot induce Rwkwode to give more than 950l. for Rwsshforth. He alleges decay of the house, taking of wood and charging it with tenths of other places; but perhaps he may be brought to give l,000l. Begs Surrey to sign the enclosed script testifying that the writer was at Bolleyne at the date thereof, for use in Fulmerston's suit against him. "My lord is so strait girt that there will be gotten nothing of him (and the rather for that he must pay for Banham to Mr. Tirell 1,500 pounds within this twelve days), except it be by Mrs. Holland, whom I think ye will not trouble for the matter." Here is much honor spoken of your doings, "and so good case with the King as ye cannot be hindered." My lord of Arondell, "being lieutenant there, is returned from Portsmouth to the Court." London, 6. Nov. Signed. | |
P.S. in his own hand.—"Yowre trompette bannere schalbe sent yowe by the nxtte that cowmithe. Yowre [pi]kt[ur]es be nothynge in a redinesse for that hys delegens ys ssiche wt [the Kinges?] grace." | |
Pp. 5. Add.: To my lord of Sorryes good lordschip, levtenant of Boulene and Bouleinoisse. Endd.: Thomas Hussees l'res dec[laring] the Duke of N. to be offendid wt [his] soone for anymat. the Kinges M. [to kepe] Boloine. | |
Also endd.: Letters to be delyvered to the [Kinges] Magestye | |
6 Nov. | 739. Otwell Johnson to John Johnson. |
R. O. | London, 6 Nov. 1545:—Business matters concerning wool sales, &c., involving the names Mr. Cave, John Holland, "Robert Androwe, Mr. Kirton's servant," Harryson, "your wife" and Mr. Tanfeld. Robert Androwe writes from Andwarpe that the arms you would have graven are set forward and the work will cost 1l. 6s. 8d. Fl. because "the posey in the sides is veray curiouse to be wroeght." Complains that his brother's price is so high that no one will buy his wool, and he himself is in great need of money to expend on some new Gascon wines. Desire B. Warner to answer my letter concerning Bruschett. |
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Calleis. Endd.: aunsweryd at Callais le 10 in the same and entryd into jurnall. | |
6 Nov. | 740. Gardiner and Thirlby to Henry VIII. |
R. O. St. P., x. 652. |
The Queen, being yesternight sent for to the Emperor, deferred Gardiner's access until this morning, when she sent Mons. de Hocstrate for him. Found with her Mons. de Rieulx, Mons. de Praet, President Scorye and a great company. Presented Henry's letters and told her how he was come to treat with the Admiral of France for peace, and also with commission for "th'eclarissement" of the treaty with the Emperor; and how confident Henry was of her good offices. She said that the Emperor himself was so affectionate to the amity that her intervention was unnecessary; and she spoke very cheerfully, but could not be provoked to say anything special. Being told of the present of hounds and greyhounds, she gave hearty thanks and said that they would give her occasion for the more exercise "for the conservation of her health." When Gardiner's servant presented them after dinner she was very interested, and especially delighted much in the "chast grehond." |
Lodging is being taken up for the Admiral of France, who will be here tomorrow or Sunday. The Chancellor of France and Secretary Bayarde come too, although the Emperor and Grandvela named only the Admiral. Today we dined with the Count de Bures, meeting the marquis of Barges, Mons. Hocstrate, Mons. Wyme, Mons. Courrur, Montfacon and a good company, who all "brought us home to our lodging again." Montfacon described the Admiral of France as "without wit or memory," the Chancellor as of "wit and learning without authority or boldness," and Bayard as having "stoutness and such a fashion of authority" that he speaks to ambassadors more roundly than has been heard in France before. The French king has been openly told by one of his Council that it were as good to give his daughter to the Emperor's son and let the child enjoy Myllayn as if Mons. de Orlyaunce had it, for his daughter's son would be as near akin to him as his son's son, and perhaps nearer; also that he need make no difficulty to restore Pyemont and Savoy, which he can take again in six days. Thus, says Montfacon, they reason matters with the French king openly, and Madame de Estampes rules all, and every honest man withdraws from Court; saying further that if the Almaynes "had entered France at their first musters they might have done a marvellous feat." Montfacon is very great with the Emperor, and, although he has cause to bear Henry a good heart, he was not so familiar when Gardiner was here this time five years and this time twelve month. He went with Gardiner before Count Bures in riding in the streets. As to his tale of the French king's Council; if anything be between the Emperor and French king it is like to be that. Has since doubted whether it was spoken unadvisedly or by command. Did not show that he marked the matter of it, but only the "dissolution of the French Court; where, Montfacon saith, they speak in manner openly against the French king." | |
We hear nothing more of the Emperor's Council, and intend tomorrow to send to know when we shall meet. Bruges, 6 Nov. Signed. | |
In Gardiner's hand, pp. 4. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
6 Nov. | 741. Gardiner to Paget. |
R. O. St. P., x. 654. |
These letters only declare our diligence. That the Chancellor and Bayard come with the Admiral argues that the French king means not earnestly with you there or the Emperor not earnestly with us here; for hither come all the reputation of France except Madame de Tampes, "and some of these three bringeth a piece of her also." Unless some Cardinal be sent, I know not who the French king has to match with my lords of Norfolk or Herford; and therefore it may be suspected that he will not send commissaries to Calays. The matters of the peace being no further squared, how should I believe that the Admiral, the Chancellor and Bayard come for that only? The Admiral's name has always been noised, and the Chancellor, being the first commissioner and greater personage, never spoken of till now. You can set things together better than I, knowing what report the Protestants make. The Emperor has never hinted that he would not that we should treat by means of the Protestants, and yet he evidently means the reformation and chastisement of those Protestants. Why should France send such personages hither only for peace with us and disappoint their voyage by sending meaner men elsewhere? Or why, if these men are sent for some secret matter, should France honour them that are known to be not acceptable to the Emperor, and rather have peace by their means than the Emperor's? Therefore, remembering what the Emperor said, I think that the Protestants have indeed put the French king in hope of compassing his purpose by them. You write that the King will not send any commissioners upon such a request as they made to have Bolen talked on; and as long as you observe that preciseness no hurt can come by talking in both places. The Frenchmen may delay sending commissioners, and use the Protestants, being gone from them to us, as a "bogge to th'Emperor" to advance their matter and hinder ours. |
Pray send me the memorial that Skepperus made of the treaty, and procure that we may hear often of the King's pleasure, and especially, now that the interview fails, whether to refuse any truce, and what moderation the King thinks to make in the conditions of peace; for the Emperor cannot be here long, "and sometime the passage is cumbersome and stayeth." Explains that he and his colleagues are men who "would have England as broad as might be "and may be trusted not to exceed the King's pleasure; and suggests that they should be instructed of the King's determination to be spoken of by degrees, the last degree in a sealed letter to be opened only in case of an "utter refusal." Writes this because the sea is between them and he fears delays; and I "would wish, if peace might be 'hamsely' had, that it were embraced, for unless we might have a good companion in war it will be from henceforth very 'fashious,' and whose company were worth the war I know not." | |
The Duke of Bruneswike and his son are in the Lansgrave's hands. If Hockstrate's tale be true there is therein a great treason. De Bure has promised me a copy of a letter from the Lansgrave, who says that Bruneswike yielded. Others say that it was "upon a parlamentation." The abp. of Magunce is chosen as the Emperor wished. I forget his name. The abpric. of Madgeburg is also bestowed as the Emperor would. Bruges, 6 Nov., at night. | |
Hol., pp. 4. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
6 Nov. | 742. Francis Halle to Lord Cobham. |
Harl. MS. 283, f. 331. B. M. |
Commendations to him and the whole Council. "Jarmyn can tell you how I sent my servant with him to the camp, and yet Master Cobbam came to me hither, unbeware both to them and me, ere they returned again; and because the said Master Cobbam, this bearer, and the said Jarmyn can tell you all the evil favoured news of and from the camp, I refer them to their report." The Allmyns will not invade the enemies' land and will do as they list, and yet are not content with three months' pay where they have served but twain, but would have also a fourth month to return home. No marvel that the King is weary of these, as of those about Callais, having "had of them so little or rather no manner of service for so much money." God grant that the King may never need any of that nation,—and to you and my lady your bedfellow long life. Lovayn, 6 Nov. 1545. |
Hol., pp. 2. Add.. To, etc., my loorde depwte, etc. | |
6 Nov. | 743. Bishopric of Killala. |
Brady, Ep. Succ., ii. 173. |
Note that 6 Nov. 1545, referente Card. Carpi, the Pope deputed as administrator of the church of Killala in Ireland, void by death of Ric. Baired, Raymund Ogalcubait (O'Gallagher), clk., of Raphoe dioc. |
Lat. | |
7 Nov. | 744. Chantry or College of Slapton. |
Close Roll. p. 4, No. 22 Rymer, xv.70 |
Surrender (by the rector and fellows) of the chantry and all its possessions in Slapton, Norton, Loddeswell, Poundstoke and Chilterne Vagge in co. Devon and elsewhere in England. Slapton, 7 Nov. 37 Henry VIII. |
No mem. of acknowledgment. | |
7 Nov. | 745. Henry VIII. to Charles V. |
Spanish Calendar, viii., No. 167. |
Has heard D'Eick and the resident ambassador, the former of whom will report his answer. His ambassadors there are also instructed on the matter. Windsor, 7 Nov. 1545. |
Nov. | 746. Wriothesley to [Paget]. |
R. O. | * * * * (About four lines totally lost and ten more in which two or three words are legible). |
"viijml. li. whiche woll serve . . . . . . . . . wherof oon wolbe clerly pa . . . . . . . . . . And then shall remayn for . . . . . . . . . . Besides this my lord Chamber[layne hath been with] me and declared that wtou[t] . . . . . . . . . they be not hable to vict[ual the ships now] in rigging and setting f[orth] . . . . . . . . two thousand paid very sh . . . . . . . . . . of th'Ordenaunce all that matier . . . . . . . . being the thing due by a nombre and mo . . . . . . . they shalbe hable no lengre wtout money . . . . . their working. Nowe what I shal d[o or how] I shal divide this matier that all ma[y yet be] saved upright I cannot tel. You w . . . . . . . . that dothe no good, but I here not . . . . . . . when it shal com, be it xm li. worth [it shall be] nothing in respecte of the chardge and . . . . . whiche is owing. I wold you felt a pece [of the] care, and I wene you wold not write soo [often as] you do, knowing the state of thinges aswel [as I] by the declarations of the treasorours. You [bid me] runne as thoughe I could make money. [I would] I had that gift but for oon yere for [his] Mate's sake. But, to my matier, thus * * * (about five lines lost) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ave thus ordered that . . . . . . . . . . . . be paid for oon moneth . . . . . . . . . for the payment of the . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . more money may . . . . . . . . . [Lord Chamberlain]es men and m1 li. [for the Ordnance there shall] rem[ayn] for Bulloyn ixml . . . . . . . . . . . . . the th[ous]and pounde in the . . . . . . . . . . . che to thes xml. li. which is . . . . . . . . . . owing. But better half a . . . . . . . . . . at all. I pray you let me [have know]leage of his Mates pleasure in thise [matters]. | |
"[As to his] Highnes warrant whiche passid not [in such wise us I] thinke you supposed but undre the Signet . . . . . . . . . . . where in th'ende of oon of your . . . . . . . . . et billes passe by their cours . . . . . . . they soo do. For onles it be the Kinges . . . . . . . . . where the hast of the thing admitteth [no delay] or that it be a beggers matier that . . . the nothing for whom you there take no greate paynes . . . . passe fewe thinges (?) here but in their cours that . . . . desire And therefore when I do wel blasme me . . . . but this is to be even wt the faulte I founde for [passi]ng a licence undre the seale of th'Admiraltie and [the] passing of the conge for Poules undre the Signet [the like] whereof hathe been se[en?] befor. I am glad you soo prately (?) foole (?) me wt [a] blinde mate. | |
"[I am] glad wt all my harte that his Mate stayethe this bill of Pirryes, for if he might be sure to have [from] tyme to tyme redy money the staple of plate, which [now] is in the Mynte and servethe all thise extreme pinches, [sho]uld be wt hym and soo must the King bothe lak at [ne]de and all men be discouraged when every man must tary thre [or four] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I assure you . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . effecte. And . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . special article . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . be bounden that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . but all to com to . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . but for oon thousand po[undes] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . wherunto all wold com shortle a[fter] . . . . . . . . a peny in the world 1 wold . . . . . . . . . . . wt somoche the [Kings] Mates damma[ge] . . . . . . . | |
"I sende unto you the commission for . . . . . . . . writen in mundum or to be amended [as shall please] his Mate. | |
"I sende unto you a non-residence to . . . . . . . Mate, the like wherof hathe no . . . . . . . . were mete to be in any wyse kn . . . . . . . . . passe. He rased out the hole . . . . . . . having the Greate Seale to it . . . . . . . . non-residence uppon the same p[er]c . . . . . . . . . more plainly perceive by his c . . . . . . . . . . when the Kinges Mate hathe seen . . . . . . . . . again to me, for if ther folowe . . . . . . . in this cace doubtful for he ha . . . . . . . . . . the seale I think it shalbe a . . . . . . to rid him. He cam to th'Excheq[uer] . . . . . . . . and when it was enrolled as you . . . . . . . . . bak Chapman, as God wold, suspect . . . . . . . . . . it to me. When I sawe it I k[new that the] hande was counterfaict and that it was . . . . . . . . befor Mr. Doctor Reade was Mr. of . . . . . . . . and so caused him to be apprehended . . . . . . . . . was in cace he had oones gotten it ag . . . . . . . . pleded ever th'enrollement and to . . . . . . . . thing as lost out of the waye. | |
". . . . . . . . . to flete forth . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [treaso]ror of Bulloyn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . paid for the . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the Wight. | |
". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . wt Mr. Arnold for the . . . . . . . [the] garrison in Shepey and this . . . . . . . . . his declaracion [sha]ll cause ccli. [to be delivered] to him for that purpose, they be [in number as] it apperethe almost full two . . . . . . . | |
"[I doubt] not but Mr. Rous hathe told you what . . . . . .. . . g Mr. Southwel I thought h . . . . . . . . . made the reaport in his absence . . . . . . . . . . . . hable nowe to do it himself. | |
"[My lord M]axwel shalbe there on Sunday . . . . . . . [a]nd be brought to your chamber . . . . . . . . . . . the Frenchman shalbe delivered . . . . . . . . orthe Soul by I differred it tyl . . . . . . . . . . . . lerne by meanes yesternight which . . . . . . . . . . . [b]est because the worst is appointed. | |
"[And thus f]are you hartily wel. From Ely Place . . . . . . . daye of Nov. | |
your assured loving freend | |
Thom's Wriothesley, Cancel. | |
Hol., pp. 4. Much mutilated. Flyleaf with address gone. | |
7 Nov. | 747. Sabyne Johnson to her Husband, John Johnson. |
R. O. | Glapthor[ne], 7 Nov. 1545:—Longs for his safe return home; and trusts that he will not tarry longer in Callais than he must. |
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Callais. | |
7 Nov. | 748. Gardiner, Thirlby and Carne to Henry VIII. |
R. O. St. P., x. 660. |
This morning early the Emperor's secretary brought Gardiner word that the Emperor had ordered Grandvela and Prat to speak with them; and asked them to come to Grandvela's lodging at 9 o'clock. Were welcomed with great familiarity, and, as Praet was not yet come, they conversed of the state of the world, wherein Grandvela thought that the increasing extravagance of the "lower estates" would overturn the world if not remedied. Afterwards Prate arrived, who has the higher place; but Grandvela is always the mouth, and he rehearsed briefly that our matters were (1) peace with France, (2) establishment of amity with the Emperor, which was the principal matter, and (3) Riffenberge and the relief of the Commissaries. In the third matter despatch was made to Mons. de Lyre who, if Riffenberge were untractable, would practise with the captains; and as the Duke of Ascot afterwards received a letter from Lyre of the unreasonable behaviour of the Almains, they wrote to him again. As to France, Grandvela understood by the bailly of Digeon, who is come, that the Admiral, Chancellor and Bayarde would be here tonight; and naming Bayarde he laughed and said that I, Winchester, knew him. I said Yes, and the Chancellor also; and asked what he thought of the success of it. He answered that they brought ample commission for truce and peace, but he knew no particulars; the Protestants indeed showed the French king that they had induced your Highness to agree to a sequestration for Bolen and to offer to send commissaries to treat of it and peace. I assured him that, whatsoever the Protestants said or the French king reported, you had "entered no particularity," and that the meddling of the Protestants was set forth by the French king who also made the offer to send; and now they tell the tale on the other side as they are wont. Asked whether he thought that they would stick to have a truce before treating of peace, Grandvela said that percase they would require a cessation of arms; but that, we showed, would uselessly consume the time of the Emperor's being here, at this season when there is a natural cessation, and therein Praete and Grandvela and Scory agreed. Grandvela then said that, howsoever we would proceed, by taking the Emperor as mediator or otherwise, they would assist towards a good end. He touched the word "mediator" lightly and we took no notice of it; but, in case the French ambassadors offer to abide the Emperor's arbitrament, it were much to our quietness if your Highness prescribed our answer, and therefore we hasten this despatch. |
Grandvela then came to the "eclerishing" of the treaty and said that they could not find Skepperus' memorial. Promised them a copy of it. They desired Gardiner to repeat some of the points of the matter; which he did, beginning with this generality that, the treaty being of two parts, one perpetual and the other specially made for France, the specialities for the invasion of France should be put out (and the other treaties thereupon abolished) and the rest remain. Told them that in the 6th article words should be added to more plainly exclude all allegation of causes, in the 7th for credit to be given to the prince's certificate concerning the number of 10,000, and also that it should be counted invasion if some of the 10,000 remained in a "stale" and sent the rest in to waste, "and herein we told them they must accomplish in giving us like aid for this year as your Majesty gave them for Landersaye." Told them that, by an "advertisement from the Emperor of a practice proponed to him (fn. n2)," we were reminded to add (to the article that no treaties should prejudice) this, that the Emperor shall use no pretence of dispensation or such other matter whereby to discharge himself of this treaty. Grandvela said that we might be sure that the Emperor would use no such indirect ways. Told them then of the article not to take peace without consent, to be amplified as consent in writing by letter and seal, of the articles for clear understanding of the treaty, reprisals, and liberty to buy harness and munition. Here Grandvela asked for a copy of the treaty with a brief memorial of requests in the margin, promising to return it. Agreed to this in order to accelerate the matter, as the Emperor's abode here is short, and will fashion it so as it may appear as sought by them in England and there treated by Skeppere, lest, for some purpose, they show it to the Frenchmen. They show outward appearance of an earnest meaning. | |
The Queen of Hungary is marvellously enamoured with her present, which she rewarded like a Queen, giving Gardiner's gentleman that presented them a chain of gold and the other that led them 50 cr. of the best sort; and she would needs go a hunting this morning and have some of his gentlemen with her. Sent such as can hunt well. She had the hounds and greyhounds in her chamber this morning before day. Bruges, 7 Nov. Signed. | |
In Gardiner's hand, pp. 6. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
7 Nov. | 749. Gardiner to Paget. |
R. O. St. P. x. 664. |
Our letters to the King show that hactenus bene se habent principia. We are fearful as a listening doe. Last night we liked not what we heard, and this morning they redubbed it by sending for us. Great demonstration is made of my being here. Wednesday (fn. n3) we went to the Emperor, Thursday Grandvela, Praet and Scory came to us, Friday we went to the Queen, and this day to Grandvela. We move with an honest company but the Frenchmen outbrag us by coming with 600 horse. A merry fellow told me they had need so, for one Englishman was worth six Frenchmen in war and peace. They come all in black, for the Duke of Orlyaunce. Pasquillus will say that "they come so prostrate, pulla veste to seek peace." Remembering a conversation which he has had with the Marquis of Terra Nova and other Italians, Gardiner strongly recommends taking peace now when the English are esteemed to have infinite treasure and to excel in valiantness, and thinks that the King may leave Boleyn when he will and yet retain the reputation won in keeping it. Once when I was exhorting the French king to observe his treaty and added that it was "honorable" to do what was asked (viz. deliver up the traitor Pole and not regard the safeconduct which he had granted contrary to the treaty), the French king told me that I "could no skill of princes' honours," with such gesture that I was fain to proceed in another way; but yet I spake truth. The Admiral will be here to-night and the Emperor goes on Thursday to Andwarp and Utrek. Desires to know how to answer if the Frenchmen remit things to the Emperor's arbitration. Writes long babbling letters to provoke Paget to write again, not remembering that he has many more to write. Has not yet "drunken" this day, having made profession to serve the King before he serves himself in this time of haste. Bruges, 7 Nov. |
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
7 Nov. | 750. Fane and Others to Paget. |
R. O. | This other day in the midst of our troubles (which still continue) bearer presented your letter of recommendation, and we can only answer that (the thing being "broken up," as he sees) we can give no remedy. If he trouble you, blame us not for giving this letter, as he has much more troubled us for it. God send us "good riddance out of these wild beasts' hands." Scelle beside Dynant, 7 Nov., 1545. Signed: R. Fane: T. Chamberlain: Tho. Averey. |
P. 1. Add. Endd. | |
8 Nov. | 751. The Privy Council. |
Dasent's A.P.C., 266. |
Meeting at Windsor, 8 Nov. Present: Privy Seal, Hertford, Essex, Cheyney, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Letter addressed to Mr. Vaughan at Portesmouth, signifying Mr. Grimston's coming to relieve him. Letters to Mr. Gresham and Mr. Wingfeld to order transportation from Dover of oxen from Romney Marsh. Letter to Mr. Mason, master of the Posts, to continue Adam Gascoyne in the postship of Scrobye, wherein letters were before written to Sir Brian Tuke, dec. |
8 Nov. | 752. Wriothesley to Paget. |
R. O. St. P., i 837. |
When he can, as appears by his letters, take so "overthwartly" what Wriothesley wrote to him yesterday, the conclusion is that weighty occupations have engendered in him melancholy humours. Received his letters at the end of supper and, but for that conclusion, might have slept the worse for them. "For first I am charged in them with that I said to you apart when I was at Wyndesour; which as for that present it rested much upon the money levied of the revenues, so the rest was but an estimate and partly spoken to relieve your spirits which seemed to be [much] troubled with that matter." Protests playfully (in terms of music, &c.) that he does not take the matter seriously, and is sure that my lady would take his part if she saw Paget's letter, and "whereupon it is grounded." Ely Place, 8 Nov. |
"You write of an old letter, but I wot not what you mean by it." | |
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
8 Nov. | 753. Otwell Johnson to John Johnson. |
R. O. | Gives the marks of wool of Mr. Cave and Mr. Johnson laden in seven ships, viz., The William of Melton Shore (Ric. Skynner, master), Mary Fortune of Brykelsay (John Beryf, m.), Trynyte of Holle (Hen. Cresswell, m.), Trynyte Anthony of London (Hen. Maket, m.), Mary and John of London (John Dryver, m.), Clement of London (Thos. Byam, m.), Mary Pitie of Flambrowghe (Wm. Browne, m.). London, 8 Nov. 1545. |
Hol., p. 1. Add.. at Calleis. Endd.: aunsweryd le 15 in the same, at Callais. | |
8 Nov. | 754. Sabyne Johnson to her Husband, John Johnson. |
R. O. | Glapthorne, 8 Nov. 1545:—Has received his of 26 Oct., in which he writes of his safe arrival at Callais and desire to be at Dover on his way home. Is sorry that "they die so fast at Callais. Our Lord cease it when His most merciful will is" and spare you to me and your two maidens. Your woolwinders will finish within fourteen days. When I sent to my brother for money for Harryson, he was very angry; but after he had fumed well he sent me 40l. Also I had a great mind to drink red wine and sent to my brother; "hoy sayth he wold send me som but he cannot tell howe it wold taken of all partes. I well tacke panes rather than I well wryt to hym agan althought I have a great myend to it." |
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Callais. | |
8 Nov. | 755. Edward Prince of Wales to Earl of Hertford. (fn. n4) |
Nero C.x., 7. B. M. Hearne's Sylloge, 120. |
"Natura movet me ut recorder tui, avuncule charissime, etsi negotia tua impediunt te ne videas me; ideo do literas ad te, quae literae ferent testimonium recordationis meae quam habeo de te." Hopes he will accept these letters not for their own good news but for the goodwill of the writer. Hunsdon, 8 Nov. |
Lat. Hol., p. 1. | |
8 Nov. | 756. Vaughan to the Council. |
R. O. | Yesternight received a letter from Mr. Francis Hall, showing that the Almains dealt foully with the King's Commissaries and would carry them separately into Germany in pledge for the fourth month's "sold." Mr. Chamberleyn they hourly threaten with swords and daggers "set to his breast," and sometimes with hanging, so that "the man is become almost besides himself." This man's service is to none better known than to Vaughan, who has been sundry times joined with him in the King's service, and is bound to commend his diligence and honesty. "They are now in the hands of no reasonable men, but in the cruel handling of a most cruel and wicked sort: God, which holpe Daniel in the midst of the lions, deliver them out of the hands of so wicked a people!" |
On the 30th ult. Mr. Dymock carried to Bynx 29,969l. 2s 5d. Fl. for the Almains. Next day Lucas Frynger followed with 1,974l. 14d. Fl., and next day a servant of Vaughan's with 1,399l. 17s. 2d. Fl. So much the Commissaries wrote for as sufficient to pay the Almains and give them gratuities. The bringer of Mr. Hall's letter says that Mons. de Lyre was at the camp, charged by the Emperor to fetch away the King's ordnance to Bynx and command the Almains to leave the country, where indeed they cannot linger, for lack of victuals. Charged Dymock not to go out of Bynx with the treasure; but is told that he left the treasure in Bynx and, with Fringer, went among the Almains. Looks hourly to hear from him. Knows not what the Commissaries have paid; but hears that Chamberleyn delivered to Buchoult a chest with writings and other things, finding him more trusty than the rest. Will take order for the safe keeping of the money at Bynx and send to Buchoult for the chest, although he dare send no Englishman among these Almains. Andwerp, 8 Nov. | |
Has sent the Commissaries, in all, 72,209l. 14s. 1d. Fl. Paid Riffenberg 5,500l. Fl. exchanged out of England. Paid the Duke of Lowenberghes captain 166l. 13s. 4d. Fl. Sent to Calles by Thos. Gresham 31,827l. 9s. 11d. Fl. Paid lately to Jasper Dowche for brokerage of Fowker's bargain 500l. Fl. | |
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
8 Nov. | 757. Vaughan to Paget. |
R. O. | Writing at length to the Council of the Almains' evil dealings with the King's Commissaries, only signifies that he has bought Paget a piece of crimson velvet and white damask. Will bring them with him if Paget help to rid him out of this country. "I was, by you, more than happy that I escaped going amongst these Almaynes. Surely they would have slain me if I had." Andwerp, 8 Nov. |
Fears that the Emperor will do him displeasure for sending valued gold to the camp. Was so called upon by the Commissiaries and had so little help that there was no time to change it, nor other suitable money to be had for it. The merchants used all craft to wrest it from him in exchange for their evil money. If he had anybody here he would steal off to Calles, for he is threatened. | |
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
8 Nov. | 758. Verallo and Dandino to Cardinal Farnese. |
R. O. | Late last night arrived here the Admiral of France with his two colleagues, and to-day they have had audience of the Emperor, who received them with great honour. Friar Gabriel Gusman came with them and immediately visited us, showing great desire to serve His Holiness. He said that the King of France (knowing that the Emperor, although well disposed in the matter of the peace and marriage alliance, did not wish to be the first to speak) has resolved to open this negociation himself, and, with the pretext of the peace or truce to be treated here with the Englishman, has commissioned the Admiral and his companions, in conversation, to speak about the confirmation of past treaties and modification of that which is disturbed by the death of Mons. d'Orleans, and then to suggest two marriages as a means of accommodating all differences, viz. (1) between Madame Margaret and the Prince of Spain, the King giving them Hedin and ceding his right to Milan but retaining Piedmont and Savoy, and (2) between the Prince of Piedmont and the Emperor's eldest daughter, with Milan in dot, the King (and likewise the Dauphin) ceding absolutely the protection (qu. pretension?) of it and restoring Hedin, with the aforesaid retention of Piedmont. If the Emperor thinks that thus the Prince of Piedmont has too little the King will give him the Princess of Navarre, who has a dot of 70,000 ducats of revenue, and, in recompense of Piedmont and Savoy, the patrimony of the late Mons. d'Orleans and of Madame Margaret, viz., the Duchies of Orleans, Bourbon, Ciatelerau, and Angoulême, worth 100,000 ducats yearly, and also cede all pretensions upon Milan, Naples or other places of Italy and restore Hedin. If the Emperor will not listen to two of these, God knows what will happen, but Friar Gusman promises to keep the writers informed of the answer and to work that these treaties may not finish without His Holiness having a hand in them somehow. Between France and England he says that there will certainly be peace or truce, and that with the Emperor's aid, for such a peace or long truce once made frees the Emperor from every obligation to England by their treaties; and, upon opportunity France and the Emperor will be able to join, at the instance of His Holiness, in taking arms to chastise the Englishman for his disobedience to the Holy See, getting themselves absolved from the oath which they will now make upon the conclusion of the truce (which the Friar expects rather than peace because a truce is less dangerous for France). England demands the said truce for three years, "et il Re cerca di darla piu oltre che potra pur per lo rispetto sopradetto non guardera ad un anno piu o manco, et etiam a tutti tre, co' lasciare anche Bologna quando attrimente la pace, alla quale pur si attendera, non potesse seguire." |
Ital. Modern transcript from Rome, pp.3. Headed: Di Wons. Verallo e di Dandino, da Bruges, al Cardinal Farnese, de gli viij. di Novembre 1545. | |
9 Nov. | 759. The Privy Council. |
Dasent's A.P.C., 267. |
Meeting at Windsor, 9 Nov. Present:—Privy Seal, Hertford, Essex, Cheyney, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Passport signed for Monsieur Skipperus. Letters to customer, etc., of Bristow to permit John Smith and Ant. Payne to import and sell 200 tuns of French and Gascon wine; to Charles Tuke to send hither copy of his father's warrant for wages of the posts, etc.; to Sir John Jerningham, etc., thanking them for travail in the provision of grain and signifying the price at 13s. 4d. for wheat and 6s. 8d. for malt. |
9 Nov. | 760. Anthony Cave to John Johnson. |
R. O. | Tickfford, 9 Nov. 1545:—By your letters of the 27th and 29th I perceive the news with you. "I beseech God to send His grace that peace may be amongst His Christians, for thoff ye like the beginning and towardness thereof it sinketh not in my head, being set forwards by such as ye write, but that there will be many lets studied for lest we should enter with the Jermaynes." It is said that the Bishop of Rome is dead. We have dearth, pests and wars to teach us to know God. |
Wool sales and prices, in the course of which he mentions Mrs. Fareye, the Delpheners, Henry Sowthewyck, the plague in Calais, Mrs. Baynam, and Mr. Armegill. | |
Hol., p. 1. Add.: At Callais. Endd.: Aunsweryd le 15 of the same at Calles, etc. | |
10 Nov. | 761. The Privy Council. |
Dasent's A.P.C., 267. |
Meeting at Windsor, 10 Nov. Present:—Privy Seal, Hertford, Essex, Cheyney, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Letters addressed to Deputy of Calais, Lord Gray, etc., for the entertainment of the Clevois there, and signifying the King's contentation for 800 footmen to remain in Guisnes town and the 16 Arbanoys under Lord Gray to continue in wages. |
10 Nov. | 762. Otwell Johnson to John Johnson. |
R. O. | London, 10 Nov. 1545:—Sends by bearer Thomas Guyllem, mariner, a barrel of "double" sent from Mr. Cave, and also brawn for Mrs. Baynam, 7 cheeses, and a canvas packed with hose and other trifles of Mr. Prattes. Bearer also will deliver my brother Lake his wife's cap "forgotten out of the trunk." |
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Callais. | |
10 Nov. | 763. The Privy Council to Lords Cobham and Grey and the Council of Calais. |
Harl. MS. 283, f. 332. B. M. |
The King perceives by your letters that the Clevois cannot be satisfied unless they have their unreasonable demands. A covenant was passed for the order of their service, whereof you have a copy and must proceed thereupon. Thomas Lightmaker's bargain was for 500 horses, whereof 100 are on this side and 400 should remain there. His Majesty is not bound to receive the rest save at discretion, yet they may be told that if reasonable they may have the same rate as the 500, but not their demand for 50 days' diet in passage. In 50 days they may come from the furthest part of all Almain; but you may conclude with them for 40 days. Some of the captains shall be sent over and the rest kept here "to see how the rest proceed." It were well to treat with the captains and not in presence of the number. Heretofore it was signified that Lord Grey should have 700 footmen in the town of Guisnes. which number was by other letters reduced to 500. Now, upon Grey's last letters, the King is content that he have 800, and likewise the continuance of his sixteen "Arbanoys." Windesour, 10 Nov. 1545. |
P.S.—"You must pay them the phillips after xxv styvers, as they go in Flanders." Signed by Russell, Essex, Paget and Wingfield. | |
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. | |
10 Nov. | 764. The Privy Council to Gardiner and Thirlby. |
Add. MS. 25,114, f. 342. B. M. |
The King perceives by your sundry letters your proceedings on Wednesday. Thursday and Friday (fn. n5); and, as for your desire to know his full determination and be thoroughly instructed how to proceed by degrees with the Admiral of France and his colleagues, his Majesty has willed us to signify that "if he had made his platform he durst, for the opinion he hath of your discretions, wisdom and long experience, commit the building thereupon unto you, as to men of trust;" but, as the ground upon which he is to draw must first be had, he cannot prescribe as you desire, and prays you to follow your first instruction and learn what the French offer. Meanwhile you may fish out what is to be had of the Emperor in the matter of the treaty, "which his Majesty calleth the ground for him to draw his plat upon," and therefore prays you to be diligent therein. As Skipper thought it reasonable that in the new treaty Boulloyn should come into the defence as well as Calais "(Mary ! he said it not to be charged withal again)" his Majesty may be the straiter laced toward France; but until the Emperor has shown himself the King sees no cause to relent to any arbitrament. As to the sequestration of Boulloyn which the French vaunt themselves to hope for by means of the Protestants it was before your departure my lord of Winchester, moved by the Commissaries of the Protestants here and misliked by every man so that you may be sure the King means it not, nor to do one jot more by means of the Protestants than of the Emperor, and not so much if the Emperor go through friendly with him. He prays you not to forget his aid due there and that the good towns and states of the Low Countries may be obliged to the performance of the treaty, which is a thing that tends to their benefit. We send you herewith a commission to treat upon the marriages, and, as written before, that of my lord Prince is to be most "advanced and if th'Emperor's lips water (as that fox (fn. n6) said) at my Lady Mary to advance that also as well as the other." We look hourly to hear from you. Wyndesour, 10 Nov. 1545. |
"You must also, if there be any practice in hand for marriage with the Prince of Spayn and France, set forth the marriage of my Lady Elizabeth." Signed by Russell, Hertford, Browne and Paget. | |
In Paget's band, pp. 3. Add. | |
10 Nov. | 765. Gardiner, Thirlby and Carne to Paget. |
R. O. St. P., x. 666. |
Yesternight received his letters of the 6th, of the King's pleasure concerning peace and truce, amity and marriages. On Saturday, towards night, the Admiral arrived, not in black but gorgeously, with the Chancellor and Bayard and a train of 250. On Sunday (fn. n7) the Countie de Bures accompanied them to the Emperor, with whom they tarried an hour. On Monday morning Grandvela was with them alone above two hours, and that afternoon the Admiral and Chancellor were with the Emperor an hour and more. The same afternoon the Venetian Ambassador visited Gardiner, and said that in this Court things are secretly wrought, but the Frenchmen report that they are come "for things not to be done but done," and would return on Thursday when the Emperor leaves for Andwerpe. Not having heard from the Emperor's Council since the Admiral's arrival, the writers decided that Gardiner should send word to Grandvela that, since the Admiral's coming, he had delayed writing to the King, and now that it was bruited that "they" depart on Thursday, he wished to know what to write. Grandvela said that President Score should come and declare the matter; who came at 6 p.m. and told how Grandvela had been with the Admiral to devise their meeting, as neither party would come to the other's lodging, and a chamber was to be prepared in the Emperor's Court for their communication this forenoon. Signify this, having opportunity to send to Calays. Evidently the Frenchmen have other matters with the Emperor. |
We sent to the Secretary our notes upon the treaty, and received our writing again. Skore said that they would report therein to the Emperor. We will remember what you now write, viz., to comprehend Bolen and the bond of the towns. Bruges, 10 Nov., in the morning. Signed. | |
In Gardiner's hand, pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545. | |
10 Nov. | 766. Fane and Others to the Council. |
R. O. | Since writing (fn. n8) how they were spitefully carried before the "ring" of the footmen and not allowed audience, they have, before Mons. de Lire, whom the Emperor sent, contented the footmen for their second month. Were not suffered to take musters, and Riffenbergh insisted that the horsemen should also be paid (and that as he would, viz. for every 12 horse two pages and a cart with four horses) and that both should "have for their return,' saying that they were licensed. Thereupon, caused certain captains of the footmen to come before De Lire, one of whom rehearsed what he had spoken in the ring in the name of the commonalty, viz., that they owed the King still certain days' service and, if required, would serve longer, having always a month's sould aforehand and a month's sould for return home. This proved that they had not been licensed, and De Lire told them so, and would have persuaded the horsemen to tarry out the remainder of the second month, as the King would perchance use them elsewhere (thinking that after the footmen were paid and discharged the horsemen would be more tractable, for he had told them that they could not justly demand the fourth month); but they insisted upon being discharged with the footmen and having their fourth month. Describe how Riffenberghe would not hear of his bargain and would have the "ritemesters" claim their fourth month, not of himself but of the writers, who thereupon requested De Lire to reason with the "ritemesters" at his lodging; where he pointed out what power the King had to do displeasure to the Landgrave and all the rest, and persuaded them rather to send ambassadors to his Majesty with their claims or take the case before the Emperor, but they only said, villainously, that if they had the King they would carry him too into the land of Bronswicke. The writers, were, before De Lire, lewdly menaced and told that they should on the morrow be carried in wagons; and De Lire promised to go with them for two or three days. |
And so this day, 5th inst., they left Florines abbey (being told, when they offered to go in wagon, that they might ride) and came the same night to Gevey to pass the river Muse. Describe how they desired De Lire there to request the King's ordinance and munition, and, as the footmen had straggled away and there was a report of a French power within two leagues, this was consented to. While they were thus devising with De Lire, Nicholas arrived with Mr. Secretary's letter, and they were comforted to hear of the King's favour towards them while they hazard their lives among "those wilful beasts," who have threatened Chamberlain, to his face, to hang him. He is more hated than his colleagues because, by compulsion of the commons, he declared his accounts with Riffenberghe, who is reported to have said that, even if he were the Emperor's son, he should be hanged. Are thus carried as spitefully as possible, and whenever Sebastian their speechman or any other would allege for them they are put in hazard of their lives. Expect to be carried into Brunswick; howbeit De Lire says that Riffenberghe has promised to keep them with him where they will not be so ill-used; and indeed Riffenberghe began a practice with Raffe Phane to the effect that, if Phane would promise him a letter to his master the Landsgrave declaring him not to be in fault, he would give a like letter to the writers, and so thought to induce his horsemen to release them. Nothing will induce the writers to give such a false testimony. For the rest, refer to bearer, Nicholas; and also to Sebastian, who has promised to repair to their lordships, and whom they highly recommend for appointment to the King's service. Doubting that henceforth they may be separated and not suffered to write, they retain Lucas Fringer with them. Gevy, 7 Nov. 1545. | |
P.S.—Were about to despatch Nicholas with the above when De Lire required them to stay until next lodging and declared the consent to leave the ordnance and munition; which was committed to Mr. Dimocke, Henry Fane and Baker of Callais to convey by the Muse from Gevey to Namewr and so to Andwarpe. Entered the town of Sine yesterday, in company with De Lire and without their wonted guard; and Riffenberghe and his "ritemesters" promised to come and finish all this day. Through the efforts of De Lire, it is now concluded that the writers shall by the end of this month procure a safe conduct for Riffenberghe to come to the Emperor for judgment whether by his compact he and his "ritemesters" ought to have the fourth month, which, according to the Council's last letters, the writers have allowed and are now at liberty. Write now to my lord of Westminster to solicit the said safe conduct before the Emperor departs to Germany, and retain Sebastian who can best declare how they have used Riffenberghe. As to Mr. Secretary's letter (fn. n9) addressed to Riffenberghe, my lords of Winchester and Westminster wrote that the Emperor's Council thought best not to deliver it, because of its sharpness, willing the writers to follow De Lire's advice therein, who, "finding them disposed to all mischief, thought he should be better able to assuage their rage without deliverance of the same, as now it hath appeared." Will tomorrow accompany De Lire to Namewre; and so to Andwarpe, to await instructions whether all of them shall remain to answer Riffenberghe before the Emperor, and whether to claim restitution of what he has forced them to pay above his covenant, which will amount to about 30,000 fl., counting that which Mr. Vaughan delivered him. Were also fain, by his means, to pay Eidell Wulfe and Buckeholte much above the rate of their covenants, who said that they could not rule their horsemen unless they were used as Riffenberghe was. Sinaye, 10 Nov. 1545. Signed: R. Fane: T. Chamberlain: Tho. Averey. | |
Pp. 8. Add. Sealed. Endd. | |
10 Nov. | 767. Gerardus Veltwyck to Charles V. |
Lanz, ii., 467. | Describes at great length the negociations at Constantinople for truce with the Turk, in which the French ambassadors managed to place their master in a position t6 press the Emperor, through the King of the Romans, to settle their dispute with England and to, get Boulogne restored. Andrinopoli, 10 Nov. 1545. |
French. |