Henry VIII: May 1524, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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May 1524

11 May.
Calig. D. VIII. 296. B. M.
As the French think we were afraid of their coming, I sent yesterday a number of horse and foot into Picardy, who lay in ambush till it was day, and have this morning brought home six prisoners and a good booty. Two of the prisoners are men of war, and say that certain great pieces of ordnance have gone out of Boulogne, and that the French intend first laying siege to Tournaham, and afterwards coming hither. One of my trumpets has just returned from the French camp. He has spoken with Vendome and Pont Remy, and the latter sends an answer, which I enclose, to the letter I wrote him. The trumpet says Vendome had but few words with him, but Pont Remy asked him many questions. First, he asked when I came over. He replied, on Sunday last, and that I had not only brought with me 1,000 Englishmen, but that there would be 10,000 others on this side the sea before ten days. Pont Remy said he would be glad of that, for his master had been at great expense bringing 8,000 Swiss thither, and had 18,000 men between that and Paris, and was marching towards them himself. The trumpet said he advised him to let their men alone, and go home, for if they remained perhaps fewer of them would return. Pont Remy said, "Ah! Trumpet, [we] desire but the battle, and bid your men to haste them on, for I trust the town and castle and Guisnes shall be [the] French king's or it be four days to an end." The trumpet said he hoped not, "for he was sure [I] had prepared such a banquet to welcome them withal [at] their coming, that they should repent them in case they had been. Trompet, dict il, tell your master, and he wi[ll join] us with the said 10,000 men to beat these coward Flemings [who] run away, I shall make him a good part of the b[ooty]." The trumpet said I hoped to have my share of the things they brought with them to the field, if they remained there. Pont Remy said, he thought the king of England would not be ... Thinks it was well bragged of Pont Remy, and not ill handled by the trumpet. He says the French have ... pieces of ordnance, of which four are single curtoux, ... culverins, and the rest serpentines and falcons. Their camp is between Guinegate and Bome, [a mile from] Guinegate and more.
Learns by a spy that was in the French camp that they have sent for great ordnance for Boulogne and Montreuil, it is said, [to lay siege] to this house; which they are welcome to do, for I am quite ready for them. This spy says they will have to move their camp for lack of victuals. If they come hither I shall leave them but small store. Calais has just come to me from De Fynes, and brought me a letter from him, which I enclose. Calais reports the position of the French camp, in the same way as the trumpet, and says the report is they will come hither.
Pp. 2, mutilated. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace. Endd.
12 May. 326. For the MONASTERY OF CERNE, Salisb. dioc., of the King's foundation.
Congé d'élire to the subprior and convent, vice Robert Westbury, last abbot, deceased. Westm., 12 May.
Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 5.
12 May.
R. O.
327. JOHN ALEYN, alderman of London.
Indenture dated 12 May 16 Hen. VIII., whereby Wm. Dingley, of Charlton, Wore., now dwelling at Sudley Castle, Glouc., promises to sell to John Aleyn, alderman of London, 12 sacks of Cotswoldwool, packed according to custom: two good and one middle fleece.
Mem. of a bond for 100l. by Dingley, John Freman, of Blokley, and Thos. Freman, of Longberow, Glouc., for the performance of the above indenture.
In Cromwell's hand. Pp. 2.
13 May.
Add. M. S. 24,965, f.226b. B. M.
Lord Dacre, as warden, has in ward Wm. Charlton, of Bellingham, Huge Charlton, his brother, and Thos. Charlton, of Carteth, and promises that while they are in ward no officer shall meddle with their wives, children or property, nor with any of their friends who will find sureties to the keeper of the country for their good behavior, as they agreed to do before Sir Chr. Dacre, according to the book read to them by Surrey. Morpeth, 13 May 16 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie of a protection granted by my lord Dacre to all the inhabitants of Tyndale now being or hereafter that will be of good abering and lay plegies for the same.
13 May.
Add. M.S. 24, 965, f.226. B. M.
Charge him to send or appoint a time and place when Dacre can receive the two Storyes of Redesdale, whom he took and has in Alnwick Castle, and whom he refused to deliver when Dacre wrote for them, as well as the man whom he has taken for "receipting" Scotchmen. Will return them if the lord of Northumberland proves that he has any franchise or liberty in Alnwick, whereby he may keep. If they escape, it will be felony in Lisle, as he has no authority to keep them.
Advises him to profit by Sir Nic. Ridlee's example, who is in ward for a similar offence. Morpeth, 13 May 16 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
13 May.
Calig. D. VIII. 298. B. M.
Yesterday [it was said the Burgundians had] taken certain Englishmen of De la Pole's, formerly in the King's guard: Thompson being one. I do not know if it be true, but I have written to Fynes not to let them go for any ransom, but that I would reward those who took them when I knew the King's pleasure and yours. Today I hear, by three ways, that the French have moved to Bome, the place where the duke of Longvyle was taken. It is further from hence than their former place, and is right in their way, if they intend to go by Lillars, Bethune and Arras destroying the country, or to return straight home. All my spies agree that 2,000 foot and 300 horse have come to Samer de Boys, and that De Beys is returned to Boulogne. I spoke today with a prisoner who has a passport signed by De Beys, and says the same. It is clear the French intend no more great feats upon this frontier unless it be to make "guerre guerreable." I expect the return of Calais tonight or tomorrow, when I will inform you of further proceedings. Guisnes, 13 May. Signature burnt off.
P. 1, mutilated. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace.
13 May.
R. O.
"The extract indented" of money assessed by cardinal Wolsey, 13 May 16 Hen. VIII., on certain nobles of the degree of baron and above, payable before the feast of Purification last, for the first year's subsidy granted by the last parliament; one part of which extract the said Cardinal has delivered to Ralph Swillington, attorney general, to receive the sums therein mentioned.
Cuth. bishop of London, on his salary of 365l. as keeper of the privy seal, 18l. 5s. Chas. duke of Suffolk, on his lands, 50l. Chas. earl Worcester, on his goods, 100l. Hen. earl of Devon, on his lands, 30l. Margaret countess of Salisbury, on her lands, 61l. Wm. Lord Sandes, on his lands, 100 mks. Thos. earl of Surrey, on his goods, 50l. George earl of Shrewsbury, on his lands, 70l. Henry earl of Northumberland, on his lands, 146l. Thos. Lord Roos, on his lands, 5l. Geo. Lord Hastings, on his lands, 20l. Signed by Wolsey. Sealed.
14 May.
Add. MS. 24,965, f. 26b. B. M.
Desires him to "enter" John Murray, whom he "borrowed" of Dacre, without delay either at Carlisle or Morpeth, as he promised to do at Coldstreme. Must have him entered to help the "fretting" of some of his tenants and servants whom the laird Carr's brother so unkindly ransoms and handles. It is of little avail to Carr, and a great reproval to the Abbot his brother, and Mark Carr his sureties, and to the sheriff of Tevidale, Will. Kirton, and others, that they do not enter him (Carr) as they promised. Morpath, 14 May 1524.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
14 May.
Buchholz, Ferdinand I., II. 503.
Instructions for negotiating a general peace. (fn. 1)
14 May.
R. O.
Has received his letter dated Westm., 10 inst. Is glad of the King's resolution to send over men. Wrote two letters about the overthrow of Mons. de Vrye's band, though Wolsey has only received one. The King forbids him to entertain the adventurers unless the French come to lay siege here, because they are banished men, and plunder his subjects. Took them into wages because the French lay where their horse might have been at Guisnes in one night, and because he heard from Mons. de Fynez, the captain of Turnehen, from French prisoners, from his spies, and from Pont de Remy's own mouth, that they were coming hither. Has discharged them today, 236 in number, after serving eight days. Their wages amount to 47l. 4s. They were among the best men of war that Suffolk had last year. If any man has been robbed by any of this garrison since he had charge of it, and not had restitution on complaining to him, Fitzwilliam offers to repay it fivefold. Asks for letters to Briswood, if the King will pay their wages for the time they have been engaged. If not, will pay them himself. Two days ago sent certain horsemen to distress the French foragers, but found they had removed their field along the frontiers of Artois, and have beaten down small piles and churches which the Burgundians used in making guerre guerreable. Sent Calais to their camp, but he has not returned. Has received a letter from Mons. de Fynez, denying that there were any Englishmen taken belonging to Richard De la Pole, but a Burgundian archer of this garrison told him he saw such Englishmen go into St. Omers. Guisnes, 14 May.
A month's wages are now due to the whole garrison; the men are not well off for money, and victuals are very dear. Briswood has advanced some money to them, but has not sufficient to pay them in full. Asks that more may be sent. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace. Endd.
15 May.
Calig. D. VIII. 299. B. M.
Calais returned this [day] from the French camp, having delivered the letters to Vendôme, of which I send a copy. Vendôme asked him if he had anything else to say. Calais said, "No, except that I was sorry they had not kept their intention of coming to see me, as they had made me take trouble to no purpose." The Duke answered, "No man there owed me so much good will as to see me." Calais said he thought the same. On this, Ric. De la Pole came in, and the Duke said to Calais, "Here is your king." The other answered, he was not his king. Calais will explain to you himself how they bandied words, "in so much that in conclusion the Duke bade hold," and called Ponderemy, with whom he talked a long time. He then dismissed Calais, promising to send a gentleman to De Beys, who would make answer to the ... letter. But before leaving, Calais was called aside by Ponteremy, who said to him privately, he wished a good peace could be made. Calais said he heard they had sent one lately to England. Ponteremy said it was but a l[ousy] friar, and it required a sad honorable man to treat of peace; and if Fitzwilliam would put to his hand he would do the same. "There is no man living," he said, "desireth peace more than I, [fo]r I am a Picard born myself, and my country is destroyed by the war." Calais said, if the French would consent to the demands of the King and Emperor, peace would soon be made. Pont de Remy answered, "Well, those things be communed of, and if we grew near to a point their [Majesties] might meet afterward, and conclude the whole matter; and [better it] were my master and yours made the peace and compr[ehension] than the Emperor and a stranger should make the same and ... two." Calais asked him to give him a writing, for credence to the King. Pont de Remy said it would not be necessary, but desired him to tell it to me, for I knew how to manage it. I therefore send Calais to you. On his departure Bry[on] sent his recommendations to me, Carew and Bryan, saying he was sorry the world was of that sort that we could not be merry together, for no one desired peace more than the king of France. Calais left their camp at Hesdin, and says they are breaking it up. Begs to know whether he is to make any answer. Guisnes, 15 May. Signature lost.
Pp. 3, mutilated. Add.: To my lord Cardinal's grace. Endd.
16 May.
Vit. B. VI. 71.* B. M.
At the late diet at Nuremberg, the Pope by Campegio, and the Emperor by the Archduke, required that the decrees of the diet of Worms should be observed. Sends a copy thereof to Melchior Langus to show to the King. Rome, 16 May 1524, 1 pont.
Lat., vellum, mutilated. Add.
16 May.
R. O.
Is sending dominus De Aloyn, baron in Chomyns, as his deputy about the Order of the Garter. Desires credence for him. Prysach, 16 May 1524. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
16 May.
Vesp. F. I. 106. B. M.
Sends the above as his proctor on his admission to the Order of the Garter. Prysach, 16 May 1524. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add.
16 May.
R. O.
Asks for the restitution of a ship laden with resin, "oszemundt," wax, ale, &c. belonging to Fred. Ostra, Peter Rode, John Hesterberch, Conrad Meyricke, Hen. Statius and Joachim Schernekouw, citizens of Hamburg, which went on shore on the coast of Norfolk, on the way to London. Hamburg, 16 May 1524.
Lat., pp. 2. Endd.: "A lettre in Lattyn."
18 May.
Gal. B. VIII. 117. B. M.
[Sent] two days ago to the sieur De Praet news which she received by letters of the duke of Milan and certain merchants, of the conduct of the army of [Ital]ye, and the retreat of the French and Swiss. Refers him for fuller particulars to the bearer, Jacques [du] Chastel, who has seen everything. Has letters from Bourbon, the viceroy of Naples and Beaurain. Du Chastel has explained to her the object of his mission to be against the French. Knows that Henry has their cause quite at heart. The time is now favorable. Antwerp, 18 May 1524. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
19 May.
Add. M. S. 24,965, f. 227. B. M.
341. DACRE to the EARL OF ARRAN.
Is told that Arran says he heard from a gentleman that Dacre speaks evil of him, saying that he is not stedfast. This is not true, for he never saw in Arran anything but what is honorable, and he would have been foolish to have so misused himself, considering the relationship between the Earl and the king of England. Arran wishes to know of the privy matters between Albany and Dacre. Gives an account of what has passed between them. Hears that Albany is going to leave Scotland, and asks Arran, as principal regent under the King, to send up ambassadors to Henry. Will do all he can to further peace. Morpeth, 19 May 16 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2. Headed: Copie, &c.
19 May.
Add. M. S. 24, 965, f. 246. B. M. Hearne's Otterbourne, II. 606.
Has received his letter of May 4, about the writing she sent to her brother for peace. Would be glad to labor with that end, as she has done divers times. The copy of the instrument which she sent by Robin Pauly (fn. 2) was one which the Governor desired her to execute, but which she refused, and will refuse, whatever happens, though she has great occasion to do it, for she has written often since Surrey departed, but had no answer. There has been great business between Dacre and Albany, but she does not know to what effect. If any way is found between the two realms, she should be advertised, and have a share in it. Acknowledges that she was honorably married, as Dacre says; but she has never received any part of her living since her husband's death, as Dacre knows, and as she has often written to her brother, to whom it would be honorable to see her answered. She has no friends but him and her son, who is but young, though she trusts that in a short time he will not let her be wronged. Will take patience for a time, and trusts hereafter to be "stedabyl" to the King and her friends, for she hopes her son will be right kind. Assures him she has not made any such bond, and will not do anything to the dishonor of herself and her friends, or her son's hurt, but will remain with him as soberly as she may, unless she is compelled other ways by necessity, or the want of her living. If she would follow other men's minds, she might have aid and support, which she would be loath to do. She will not do anything that might be a reproach to her, for the favor of any Frenchman. If any one had been treated as she has been, they would do differently to what she has done, seeing that her brother does not regard her nor her writings, except those which are by solicitation of her "an fryndys."
As she has written to her brother so often without getting an answer, begs Dacre to show him that she considers it very unkind, as she has not failed, and does not mean to do so. Styrlyng, 19 May.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Sealed.
19 May.
R. O.
Hears that the King intends to made war on France this year. Offers to procure him horsemen or Almain foot, if he requires any. Boisleduc, 19 May 1524. Signed: Florys.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A mons. l'ambassadeur d'Angleterre par devers madame l'archiducesse d'Austrice.
19 May.
R. O. St. P. VI. 286.
Has charged Hannibal, who is returning to England, to salute her in his name, and give her his blessing. Rome, 19 May 1524, pont. 1.
Lat., vellum. Add.
19 May.
R. O.
16 Hen. VIII. Receipt, dated 19 May, by Sir Ric. Jernyngham, chamberlain of the King's receipt of the Exchequer, of the following pieces of evidence concerning Scotland and France, from Sir Thos. More, undertreasurer, out of the treasury at Westminster:—
For Scotland, a long coffer containing 98 pieces, a round hamper with seven pieces, and another with nine pieces. For France, two square boxes, containing 32 pieces. Signed by Jerningham.
Memorandum of their return to the great cover in the counter loft pertaining to the writings of France and Scotland, in the presence of John Ford, 26 May. Signed by Jerningham.
P. 1.
20 May.
Calig. B. III. 6. B. M.
Received his letters dated Westminster, the 24th April, with the copies of Albany's last letter to Wolsey, and of a convention in French between queen Margaret and Albany. Upon this wrote, according to the request in Wolsey's letter, to queen Margaret, Albany, and the principal lords of Scotland. Sends copies of his letters and of Albany's answer. Upon reading the Duke's letter, was told by Unicorn that the cause of John de Barbon's retiring when he was at the point of riding was the arrival of an archbishop sent by the Pope in embassy to the French king, who was to repair to this realm. In answer to Wolsey's inquiry, is surely advertised that the convention is passed between the queen of Scots and Albany, who has given her the wardship of the young earl of Huntley for her consent. Pawlyn, her servant, was sent by her to the Duke, showed him part of her writings, and, coming into this realm, where he was stopped by Dacre, sealed a copy of the convention with the Queen's signet, which he carried, and sent it to Surrey. On the receipt of his letters to Albany, the Queen and the principal lords of Scotland, the former assembled the lords in Edinburgh last week, "in a great murmur," the temporal lords in one chamber, and the spiritual in another, and gave in bills with his own hand, desiring an aid for the defence of the Borders; which was refused, the temporal lords declaring they were willing to serve in person, and the spiritual that they had already paid 40,000l. Scotch for his support, with small return. On which Albany, much displeased, desired licence to depart to France, promising to return in August. The matter is not yet settled. The Marches are in good order. Much annoyance constantly done to the Scots; God willing, "they shall curse the time of the Duke's being in Scotland."
Has apprehended, since his last letters, three of the chief captains of Tyndale,—William Charlton, of Bellingeham, Roger Charlton, his brother, and Thos. Charlton, of Careteth,—and taken pledges of the reversion of all the other surnames of Tyndall. When Surrey sent Sir Ralph Fenwick, bailiff of Tyndall, with fourscore horse to apprehend Will. Ridley, Wm. Charlton, with 200 men, "retained, bound, and bodily sworn upon a book to him alway to take his part," attacked him, and chased him out of Tyndall. Thinks Wm. Charlton should be "justified" here for an example. Roger and Thomas, with 60 other Tyndall men taken by Dacre at the bridal of Colwel in Northumberland, were arraigned at Newcastle before Boudenel and Fitz-Herbert, justices of assize, and some executed; for the most of them, the said Roger and Thos. found sureties that they should keep the peace, but have forfeited their bonds. Thinks they should be brought before the assizes in Northumberland in August next. Immediately after their apprehension, made proclamation in Tyndall for every one to appear before him on the Sunday following in Bellingeham Church, where, his brother, Sir Christopher, and other friends being present, he made them find pledges for their good demeanor, and gave them till Tuesday, then to Friday following as peremptory. The "surname" of the Robsons held out under one Robt. Robson, the fourth headsman. Took the said Robert and three other prisoners on the Saturday morning. Arraigned and "justified" him the same day, and kept the other three in hold for the assize. Doubts not my lord Treasurer can report their qualities. Sir Nicholas Ridley's servants having taken one Henryson, an arrant thief, commanded that he should be delivered up. Sir Nicholas put him at liberty. Dacre then sent a servant and arrested him, and Sir Nicholas sent his son Hugh to sue for pardon. Recommends Wolsey to write sharply to Sir Nicholas for the apprehension of his kinsman Will Ridley. Sir Nicholas can procure it if he like, though Will has fled to Scotland;—before his departure he received him night and day in his house. The roof of the dungeon of Wark Castle was taken off, and made flat for laying on of guns against Albany's coming in November last. The timber is much injured. None can lodge there till it be repaired with a low roof. Lead may be procured from Dunstanborough Castle. The walls must also be repaired; they were sore beat with the Duke's siege. Sends another copy of his authority to be renewed for the West Marches. Morpeth, 20 May.
Pp. 5. Add. at ƒ. 5: "To my lord Legate's grace." Endd.
Add. MS.
24,965, f. 239. B. M.
2. Copy of the preceding in Dacre's Letter-book. Dated Morpeth, 20 May 16 Hen. VIII.
The leaves transposed, the order of the folios being 239, 242, 240.
20 May.
R. MS. 13 B. II. 323. B. M. Ep. Reg. Sc. I. 344.
Enjoining them, in the name of the king of France, not to hinder Edward Crawford, of Edinburgh, who is going to Dantzic (Gedanum) to procure corn for Scotland, and not to arrest him on account of the war with the Catholic King, which would afford a pretext to the Imperial cities for attacking France. Edinburgh, 20 May 1524.
20 May.
R. O.
Deed of sale by Roger Pynchestre, citizen and grocer of London, to Robt. Burrow, gent., a servant of Wolsey, of tenements and lands called Hartcombe, in the parishes of Kyngston-upon-Thames and Dytton in Surrey, for £_, which lands Pynchestre bought on 20 May 16 Hen. VIII. from Peter Carmelian, archdeacon of Gloucester and prebendary of St. Stephen's, Westminster, who bought them from Stephyn Coope, Esq., on the 28 Feb. 13 Hen. VIII.
Draft, pp. 3. Endd.


  • 1. A long summary of this document will be found in Mr. Bergenroth's Spanish Calendar, II. 629. For De Pleine's subsequent instructions on 25th May, see Bergenroth, ib. 640.
  • 2. Misread "Parsy" by Hearne.