Henry VIII: July 1527, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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July 1527

11 July.
R. O.
St. P. I. 212.
This day, according to his letter by Basing, embarked between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning, and arrived at Calais by 9. Had a long discourse with the Deputy and others at Calais. Finds the town in great decay and disorder, and the soldiers unpaid. All these errors he will amend at his return. Found news here from the prothonotary Cassalis, dated Venice, 14 June, which he has translated out of Italian into Latin. Intends to write tomorrow to the English ambassadors with the French king. Calais, 11 July. Signed.
In Gardiner's hand. Add.
11 July.
Vit. B. XXI. 31.
B. M.
Since Brooke left, has written twice, from ... in Moravia, dated April 26, and from Pr[essell] in Slesia, dated May 20, and has sent letters to the King and Wolsey from the king of Poland. The king of Bohemia sent on the 8th inst. the marquis Casimirus of Brandeburg with 12,000 foot and 6,000 horse, who have laid siege to Teben Castle on the Danube, eight leagues from Vienna. The King will shortly follow with more forces. He waits here expecting the delivery of the Queen.
The queen of Hungary has come from Presburg to Vienna. The castle of Presburg is not yet given up, but probably will be on the arrival of the army. Yesterday one of the captains of the castle was with the King at Vienna. Does not think other fortresses will be so lightly given up, for the Wawda makes great preparation to defend his towns and castles, and has determined to keep the crown. At the visitation of Our Lady he had a solemn mass sung at Oven (Buda), where were present Papal, French and Venetian ambassadors. After mass the confederation between him, France and Venice was read. It is reported that the king of England was comprehended. The black man of whom he wrote remains with his 16,000 men. It is doubtful whose part he will take, but he has sent an ambassador to the king of Bohemia.
No news about the Turk, except that the Sophie has defeated part of his army. The Pope's ambassador who was here with the king of Bohemia has returned to Italy. Remits the despatching of John Broke to Wolsey. Vienna, 11 July. Signed.
Pp. 2, mutilated.
11 July.
Vit. B. XXI. 32.
B. M.
Has not yet received the letter which he says he wrote on June ... Has received that of June 17th with Master Wingfield's.
The king of Bohemia sent into Hungary on the 8th his general captain, marquis Casimirus of Brandeburg, with 12,000 foot, and, it is said, with 6,000 horse, who are besieging the castle of Teben. It is thought the King will follow shortly.
There has been in Hungary, for the last three or four months, a black man with 16,000 men, but it is not known whose part he will take. The king of Bohemia has sent ambassadors to him, and hopes he will aid him. The only news about the Turk is that the Sophie has overthrown some of his troops. Vienna, 11 July. Signed.
P. 1.
Vit. B. XXI.
B. M.
"Majestati tuæ conterfectionem inclusam coronæ Ungariæ antiquissimam qua omnes Reges Ungariæ pristinis et nunc temporibus coronari consueverunt.
"Elector dux et comes palatinus Reni viginti rebaptisatos in Vuormacia in castello suo Alsau (?) incarceratos tenet, quos juridice judicaturos propediem, &c."
In a German hand.
11 July.
R. O.
Depositions on behalf of the town of Shrewsbury in a cause between them and the Abbot, taken 11 July 19 Hen. VIII.
John Gethans says (1) he has been thrice bailiff of the town, twice common serjeant, and is now crowner; that 37 or 38 years ago there stood upon a bridge called Stanbrugge, outside Shrewsbury, and at the end of the bridge next the Abbey, "as much within that end of the bridge as the length of the table in the inner chamber of the Star Chamber at thrice or thereabout," which was the boundary of the Abbey's franchise, the rest of the bridge and all the housing between the Cross and the town belonging to the franchise of the town. (2.) The Cross was borne away by parcels, by whom precisely he cannot say, though many think by the Abbot's command. (3.) He has known of no variance between the town and the Abbot till now; but he has known "dayyngs upon claims of that franchise made by divers abbots," between them and the town. Meyvale and the stone bridge to the place where the Cross stood are within the town franchise, and when he was serjeant he took distresses there.
Will. Pontesberie says (1) he saw the Cross 50 years ago stand 17 or 18 yards within the end of the bridge; (3) that he knew variance between the town and Abbot 69 years ago, when Ric. Hoord was bailiff; and generally confirms previous deponent.
The interrogatories are nine in number.
Pp. 3.
11 July. 3259. HEN. BROKEMAN.
His will. Proved, 11 July 1527. Printed in Nicolas' Testamenta Vetusta, p. 624.
12 July.
Mon. Vat.,
p. 23.
Expresses his great indignation at the wrongs done to the Pope, and the duty of all men to restore him to his former dignity. London, 12 July 1527.
13 July.
R. O.
Knowing that the King, however much he is engrossed by the affairs of all Europe, always finds time for study, sends him a copy of an epitome of the Adagia of Erasmus, which, as he told him, he had been unable to procure in London. Has prepared an answer to Luther's letter, which he is ready to publish with the King's annotations when he receives them, or to send to be printed at London. Hears that Wolsey is going to France, and that he will settle the affairs of Christendom. Bruges, 13 July 1527.
Hol., Lat., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
13 July.
Harl. MS.
442, f. 77.
B. M.
3262. TRADE.
Proclamation to be made by the mayor of Calais that English and foreign merchants may resort to and trade at Calais, paying only the tolls usually paid by the King's subjects at the marts at Antwerp and elsewhere in the Low Countries. The privileges of duke Philip of Burgundy, confirmed by the towns of Antwerp and Barow, are to be observed, and tables thereof set up in the market-place, custom-house, and King's Exchequer. The governor and fellowship of the Merchant Adventurers are to have the same jurisdiction in Calais and the Marches as previously in the Emperor's Low Countries. Calais, 13 July 19 Hen. VIII.
Modern copy, pp. 14.
14 July.
Vesp. C. IV.
B. M.
3263. LEE to WOLSEY.
Received your letters, by Sir Francis Poyntz, of the 11 May, thanking me for my services. The troublous time at Rome keeps from us the answer of the letters we sent from the Emperor touching your pension on Toledo. The Archbishop will pay nothing. Palencia has paid all, except for Midsummer last. Will have to use Almain for the pensions due for Tournay, &c. Trusts that Wolsey has received 1,800 ducats from the prior of St. Mary Overy's. Has not heard whether he has. Is glad Wolsey is satisfied with his explanation about the exchange. In the letters they were shown by Buclans in cipher, it was expressed that the French king intended to offer you the papality or patriarchate of France, as the French would no longer obey the Church of Rome. Buclans said to me, My lord Cardinal much desired to have "the legacy per inferiorem Germaniam." If he will have it now, or the patriarchate, I doubt not he shall have it. I refused to report this, saying you would little esteem that thing. The Emperor's ambassador in France has written to know how he is to behave to your Grace. Begs Wolsey will keep secret what he has written before, and find how that rumor came up; "for albeit the thing for the tone part be honorable, the tayle is horrible." Would be glad to know if he is to come home with Sir Francis Poyntz. Is at Wolsey's service, whatever he shall be commanded. Is told that the Pope will soon be in Spain. Valladolid, 14 July.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
14 July.
S. B.
Rym. XIV. 203.
3264. For JOHN GOLDE, clk., M.A., Almoner to Mary Queen of France.
To have the canonry and prebend of the free chapel or collegiate church of Tanworth, Cov. and Lich. dioc., vice Brian Darley, clk., deceased. Del. Calais, 14 July 19 Hen. VIII.
Pat. 19 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 5.
S. B. 2. Warrant in pursuance, to Ralph bishop of Cov. and Lich.
15 July.
Vesp. F. I. 70.
B. M.
St. P. I. 213.
On the 10th received your packet, with a letter for the King's highness, which I delivered at the More. Received another packet on the 14th, with a letter for the King, which I delivered at Enfield. De Lasko, the Hungarian ambassador, delivered his charge this day, dilating on the miserable state of Hungary, and the free election of the Vavoda. The King ordered the dean of his chapel (Sampson) to reply. Gives the substance of the speech. The ambassador had his brother Stanyslaus with him. The King ordered me to send this account to you.
Frauncoise Philip, the Spaniard, sewer to the Queen, has labored to obtain licence to go into Spain to visit his mother, who is sick. The Queen has refused her assent, and labored with the King to prevent it, but the King, "knowing great collusion and dissimulation between them, doth also dissemble; feigning that Philip's desire is made upon ground and consideration, and easily hath persuaded the Queen to be content with his going. And because it was thought dangerous for him to pass through France, or, at this season, by the seas, the King hath said, that in case Philip be taken by enemies his Highness will redeem him, and pay his ransom; and this policy the King useth to bring Philip in more firm confidence; but his pleasure is, and also he desireth and prayeth your Grace to use such policy as, notwithstanding any safe-conduct that the said Philip shall obtain, either by your Grace's means, or any other, of the French king, he may be let, impeached, and detained in some quarter of France, so that it be not in anywise known that the said let, arrest, or deprehension should come by the King, by your Grace, or any of the King's subjects. The King's highness doth perceive that the Queen is the only cause of the man's going into Spain, as he that is and hath been always privy unto the Queen's affairs and secrets." The King desires Wolsey to send word to the bishop of Worcester to keep a look-out for such as resort to the Emperor's court. Enfield, 15 July.
15 July.
it. B. IX. 132.
B. M.
Bull referring to the Pope's personal danger from the plague during his imprisonment, some of the officers of his chamber having died of it; and empowering the Cardinals, in the event of his death taking place while in captivity, to meet in Bologna, Perugia, or Ancona, for the election of the future Pope; or, if these cities be under interdict, or in open rebellion against the Church, in Florence, Turin or Mantua. The election to take place wherever a majority of the Cardinals agree that it shall be held. But if the See fall vacant when the Pope is away from Italy, the election is to take place at Rome, unless that city be in rebellion. In the first case absent Cardinals are to be waited for 10 days; in the second a month. Castle of St. Angelo, Rome, 1527, id. Julii; 4 Clement VII.
Pp. 4. Printed copy, with two corrections in MS. in the hand of Cardinal Armellinus, who also adds the following: Mandate of the Pope to Cardinal Armellinus, his chamberlain, to sign and seal the printed copies of this bull in token of its authenticity. Signed and sealed.
15 July.
Harl. MS. 421.
f. 9.
B. M.
3267. HERESY.
Articles objected to Abraham Water, Dutchman (Tutonicus), by Geoffrey Wharton, vicar-general of Cuthbert bishop of London, now abroad, and chief official of the consistory of the see of London.
1. That he was baptized in the Catholic faith, which he has observed after arriving at years of discretion. 2. That he belongs to the parish of St. Botulph, Colchester, and is under the jurisdiction of the bishop of London. 3. That he knows or believes that all Christians who believe or affirm about the sacraments of the Church otherwise than the Catholic Church teaches, are heretics, and deserve to be canonically punished. 4. That in April, May, or June of the present year, 1527, in St. [Botulph's] or other parishes of Colchester, he asserted and publicly preached that he could make of a piece of bread the body of Almighty God, as well as the best priest of them all, contrary to the decision of the Church, imperilling his soul, and showing an evil example to others. 5. That in consequence of such words he is grievously suspected of heresy among the good people of Colchester. 6. That the above are true and notorious.
Lat., pp. 2.
Ibid. f. 10. ii. Abjuration by Abraham Water of the above and all other heresies. Signed with a cross.
Read by him in the consistory of London, 15 July 1527.
16 July.
R. O.
St. P. I. 216.
Has been obliged to remain at Calais on account of the tempestuous weather. Will be ready to start on Thursday, unless the French king desires otherwise, to whom he has sent John Joachin. Sends a packet of letters from the bishop of Bath. Although Francis makes semblance of coming to Amiens, "it may be conjected what for his debility and my Lady's gout that he intendeth to train me to Paris." Is glad that the French king likes the device of summoning the Cardinals to France, "which shall not a little confer to your Highness intended purpose." If the Pope be conveyed to Gayette, it will be long before he recovers his liberty. Hears from Hacket, who is now in Calais, that the Emperor and lady Margaret rejoice at the Pope's captivity, and the sack of Rome. Sends news written to the Papal ambassador, from France, that the Florentines have entered the League, and that Lautrec is making diligence for advancing into Italy, Calais, 16 July. Signed.
In Gardiner's hand. Add.
16 July.
R. O.
St. P. I. 218.
Has received fresh letters from Joachin, in Italian, which he has ordered to be translated into Latin, informing the King of the arrangements for meeting Wolsey. Tomorrow De Buyes (Biez), captain of Boulogne, and Langes (Wm. Du Bellay) will be at Calais. Calais, 16 July. Signed.
In Gardiner's hand. Add.
17 July.
Vesp. C. IV.
B. M.
St. P. VI. 588.
3270. LEE to HENRY VIII.
De Tarbes and Poyntz arrived on the 1st, and were well received by the Emperor, who gave them a ready answer, "sometimes smiling and jesting with M. de Tarbes." He declared himself inclined to peace, and spoke well of the king of England, and of Wolsey. The conditions proposed are 2,000,000 g.c., the surrender of the superiority of Artois, &c., a pension on Milan during the life of Francis Sforza, &c. We are told by Allemand that the King has already demanded of Sforza whether he will take his trial. He says the settlement is easier now Bourbon is dead. De Tarbes will not make any further offers, and the Emperor complains that better ones have been proposed. Various instructions to this effect were produced. We have so handled matters that the Emperor will propose to us his own demands, and refer them to you. We trust for a time the intimation of war is past. Detail further conversation about Milan, and the propositions of De Tarbes. Spoke to the Emperor upon the cruelties committed at Rome, and begged he would set the Pope at liberty. He said he did not know in what condition the Pope was; and if he is a prisoner at St. Angelo, he is kept there by the unruliness of the soldiers, who will not obey their captains. He professed himself a devout child of the Church, and doubted not that he should satisfy the Pope, who was coming to Spain.
He has told his ministers that if he be brought to any unreasonable conditions it should be out of regard to the King. Allemand stated that if the King wished the daughter of Portugal for the duke of Richmond she should have 400,000 ducats. It is said the King of Hungary and the Waywda are agreed. Valladolid, _ July.
Before I could despatch these letters we have received the Emperor's demands, which "be great and fat," as the Emperor said they should be; but Allemand tells us, in the letter sent to his ambassador in England, your Highness shall know his secret intentions. De Verie has been sent to the Pope. The General of the Observants has arrived, with commission to treat between the Pope and the Emperor. Ave Maria confessed to me that Francis has given them a joint commission. The secretary tells me that the duke of Milan is not worthy to have the dukedom, as he will render it to France, and it is better that it should be given to you, with the daughter of Portugal. Valladolid, 17 July 1527.
Hol. Add. Endd.
17 July.
Vesp. C. IV.
B. M.
On the 2nd July, the day after the arrival of De Tarbes and Poynes, we went to the court, according to our instructions. The Emperor was glad to hear of Sir Francis's arrival, and affirmed that he could not believe there could be any "earnest stomach" between himself and the King. On our protesting the King's good will he said he did not doubt it, but he feared the French would ask much and give little, and he had already been deceived by them. We replied he might be assured that the King would provide against this. In the end he requested to be informed whenever we desired audience, and he would be ready.
After arranging with the French ambassadors, went to court with them, 4 July. Were admitted first to the Emperor's privy chamber, the French remaining in an outer chamber. Poyntz delivered first the King's letters, then the Queen's, and lastly Wolsey's, which he took most thankfully, and used all arguments to induce him to agree to the King's request. He answered, as before, that he desired nothing more than peace, if the conditions were reasonable. On this, at our request, the French ambassadors were admitted, and the bp. of Tarbes, after presenting letters from the French king and his mother, declared how the former, at the King's mediation, had strained himself to more large conditions of peace than hitherto, viz., 1, to give 2,000,000 cr. after the tenor of our instruction, i.e. the pledges to be delivered on payment of the first million, and the second to be paid in three years, sureties being given for it; 2, Francis to waive his claim to Naples and the pension during the Emperor's life; 3, touching the superiority of Artois and Flanders; 4, Sforza to hold the dukedom of Milan for life, paying the Emperor a pension; 5, the Emperor still to hold Tournay, and Francis Hédin, or vice versâ. We urged the Emperor to accept these terms, and that in consideration of the large loans made to him by the King, repayment of which has been so many years overdue, the Emperor would show his gratitude by paying the whole out of the first million.
The Emperor answered the French that more than 2,000,000 had been offered him before, that the King his uncle might be satisfied of his indemnity, that Francis had already given up his title of Naples to Mons. Valdemont, that as to Milan, after the trial whether Sforza had done wrong, then, &c. (here he stopped, leaving the rest to be inferred); that peace should be perpetual, and not only for a time (apparently referring to the conditions about Flanders, &c.), and that he did not consider Tournay and Hédin should be any obstacle. A conversation ensued, in which the Emperor, "all lowering and heavy countenance set apart, was content sometime to jest with Mons. de Tarbes, and with sometime smiling, sometime laughing, to intermingle weighty and serious words, not without sting, and yet with all gentleness and propension to give good audience." De Tarbes said the French had never before offered the Emperor more than 1½ million; but the Emperor said they had twice offered him two, first by the Viceroy, and again by another. In the end he said he would appoint commissioners to confer with us.
Were not called on the 4th, 5th, or 6th. On the 6th Lee went to John Almain to desire audience next day; on which he said he and De Pratt were commissioned to confer with the English ambassadors apart from the French. Told this to the French, and asked their opinion, when they agreed that we should hear the commissioners, but not treat without them. Were put off by Almain that day, "because there was great triumph and jugo de canes for the Empress' first issuing out of the palace after her deliverance." Sent, at night, to appoint an hour next day, and arranged for three p.m., but afterwards Almain sent word that he would be engaged by the Emperor reading letters from Italy. Offered to come at any hour later, but were put off till next day, 9 July, when De Pratt said the Emperor could not but think we had larger offers to propose than those made by the French, and was determined to do nothing without the King's mediation. Answered that the King and Wolsey thought those offers sufficient, and that the French king could not have been induced to make them without Henry's mediation. De Pratt said Francis had made better offers by others, even by a secretary named Comacre sent to Granada. Told them the French denied this.
This was on the 9th July. Received that night Wolsey's letters of the 27th June, instructing us what to say to the Emperor about the conduct of his people at Rome, and the Pope's captivity, with other matters "for the ensearching of his purpose." Talked over the matter with the French ambassadors, and then spoke to the Emperor, who expressed himself sorry for what had taken place at Rome, but said the Pope was not a prisoner, he was only compelled to remain in St. Angelo, seeing the want of discipline among the soldiers, and that he himself would declare to all the world that he is a Christian prince, and most humble child of the Church. We all thought he said this very heartily. Even the Nuncio, with whom we spoke before seeing him, is convinced of the Emperor's good faith. He has countermanded all the triumphs that were preparing, "as castles to be besieged, and other things," in consequence of this news. At this interview brought the mandata, which the Emperor wished to see. De Tarbes said he hoped to see a good knot between the Emperor, the King, and his master. The Emperor answered "Yea, we three shall agree well enough, but (smiling) he feared that two should not," meaning that the King was needed as mediator. On this Ghinucci desired, if that were his mind, that he would instruct those who treated with us to be more open, and descend to specialties; which they declined, saying the conditions were not honorable. The Emperor replied, "They say truly." Desired to be told why, that they might see to it in their negociations. He ordered the proxies to be delivered to Buclans.
The Emperor sent to us that night De Pratt and Buclans to excuse their having received our proxy, whom they regarded as mediators. As to our commission about the debts, he said he had sent one to Don Inigo to arrange the matter, but could talk with us about it when we would. Had a long conference with the Council next morning, in presence of the French ambassadors, who denied the French king's offers, or that they were instructed to offer any other conditions. The Council asked what conditions the French objected to as impossible; on which the latter "did somewhile tarry;" and we, by consent of the bishop of Tarbes, went apart to the Emperor's confessor, desiring him to give us some light how we might set forward this peace. Were afterwards sent for by the Emperor, who disclosed to us his mind "right familiarly," saying he would try again if De Tarbes would not offer larger conditions. He complained that the French pretended certain articles in the treaty of Madrid were impossible, but would not say what they were, and insinuated that he would "utter conditions that should be fat enough," i.e., "ask more than he would at length covet to have," but the King and Wolsey would moderate them. He desired of us that no prejudice might be done to the treaty of Madrid, and that we would write to the King and you to handle this matter so that it may appear you did not make these offers of yourselves.
Praised his purpose, and thanked him for his towardness. Dissuaded his trying the bishop of Tarbes again as useless, and he gave it up. He said the French king would never sit still till his feathers were pulled, and talked about his having Burgundy, and the King Boulogne. Advised him to mitigate his demands for the good of Christendom. He took all in good part, and said, if he consented to unreasonable things, it would be for the sake of the King and Wolsey. He said he would now "conclude all things by his will with the French king, that no matter of any war hereafter should remain." What he meant, we suppose, we shall see by the conditions. He talked of Lautrec's going to Italy, saying, he supposed the French believed his army to be destroyed. He said he had no certain news from Rome, but the captains seemed to be in the hands of the soldiers, and he feared he should be unable to enforce discipline if he were there himself.
Forgot to mention that Buclans showed us certain proxies and seals, among which was the authority of the lady Regent when Francis went to Italy, and the confirmation of the treaty of Madrid by the Parliament of Paris; a letter of which the news is contained in ciphers (see next No.); also the letter written by the Viceroy which Mons. de Tarbes confessed, in which he said he was commissioned by Francis and Madame to offer the Emperor 2,000,000 cr., &c. This was on the 12th July.
Looked at Tarbes' instructions. "The 1st comprised the proposition, somewhat biting, albeit modered at our exhortation;" the 2nd only the intimation; the 3rd referred him to us about payment of the millions, and committed the matters of Italy and Flanders to his discretion. The other articles only declared the impossibility and unreasonableness of the treaty of Madrid.
Some of the Emperor's council say the French should pay the whole indemnity, as Francis has bound himself to pay Henry all arrears. Leave this matter to be treated in England; otherwise, desire instructions. John Almain considers that of 40,000 marks 30,000 were due by Francis in arrears to the King, and 10,000 to the French queen.
(fn. 1) Were sent for to court on the 15th July, by De Pratt and Buclans, who told us the Emperor would give answer to De Tarbes, offering to discuss the articles of the treaty of Madrid, which they declared impossible to be observed, after which he would show his demands to us apart, and make them no further answer. To prevent this, spoke to De Tarbes, who agreed to let them go first to court, and wait till he was sent for. Told the Council that as we and the French were in one commission, it did not seem "convenient" to speak to De Tarbes first, and then deliver the demands to us apart, especially as they must at length know them. Were referred to the Emperor, to whom they made the same objections. He said the French offers did not deserve an answer, but at the King's mediation he intended to tell them, "Show me wherein the treaty may be reformed, and keep the rest," after which he meant to show us his demands. We said we had no commission to treat on any new basis, and begged him to moderate his demands. He said we should see them. We requested that De Tarbes might see them also. He said we might show them to him as of ourselves. Perceive the French would not have brought him to show any demands. He professes willingness to do everything for the King, and we avoid giving him any token but that the King and your Grace are still wholly his.
Immediately after we left the Emperor he sent De Buclans to us with his demands in writing, which we found fat enough. To moderate them, we shall make suit to come to his presence and endeavor to send you them reformed by this post. Wolsey will understand this is but the common course, the first demands being beyond the demandant's expectations, and John Almain says the Emperor will not disclose his secret mind to any but the King and Wolsey.
The Emperor despatches Mons. de Verie, who is called his minion, to the Pope. It is thought the general of the Observants who came yesterday has a large commission to treat with the Emperor for the Pope.
Remonstrated with De Buclans next day against the protestation of the continuance of the treaty of Madrid, their demands about Sforza, and the payment of the Emperor's debts to the King by Francis, &c. Buclans asked if they restored Sforza, what security they should have that he would not give up the duchy to France, and suggested that the Emperor might give it along with the daughter of Portugal to the duke of Richmond. He also desired them on the Emperor's behalf, that as the King had entered into new amity with France, he could do the like with him. Assured him the Emperor might rely fully on the King.
De Tarbes has now shown us the fourth instruction. Perceive well why he withheld it; for he is to say to the Emperor, before the English ambassadors, that they desire his amity more than that of any other prince. 17 July 1527. Signed.
Pp. 23. The cipher deciphered by Tuke. Add. Endd. One part of this despatch is separated from the other.
Vesp. C. IV.
B. M.
Wrote in former letters of the arrival of Ave Maria with a commission from Francis to treat with the Emperor for deliverance of the pledges and for peace. De Tarbes, on his arrival, rebuked him for calling himself the French king's commissioner, and made him explain to me (Lee) that he had no other commission than to treat of peace. This has increased my suspicion that he has a joint commission with the general of the Observants, who would have been here before, but that he was taken at sea by the Turks. Hears that they were commissioned to refer matters either wholly to the duke of Savoy, or to him and the King. Thinks it right to repeat all he hears, and let Wolsey judge its truth. I think the French are not sincere with us. They show us but three instructions. Poyntz saw four; and they admit they have a fourth. It is true the like may be said of us, but our secret instructions do not greatly differ from the first. De Tarbes admits his secret commission refers to the superiority of Flanders and the titles of Naples and Milan, &c. De Tarbes has said that he durst [not] visit Madame Eleanor, for fear of us, yet he confesses to have been with her without our knowledge. De Buklans says he was with her three times, always at 10 o'clock p.m.
(fn. 2) In the night the Emperor sent to us Mons. de Buclans with the letters which were sent him by his ambassador in France, stating that he had been told by the bishop of Burgesse and Robertet that De Tarbes was commissioned to offer the conditions sent by the Viceroy without diminution, and, if the Emperor was not satisfied, to ask what he would demand; also that Lautrec, who was now gone to Italy, had full authority to conclude with the Viceroy, though Buclans says the Viceroy has no commission, except about matters of Italy; that Wolsey had pressed Francis to marry the Princess, and treat with us absolutely; and that Francis would fain know what speed de Tarbes made here before he proceeded to any further resolution with the Englishmen; "for they can no longer delay it."
De Buclans says the Emperor desires to have everything done there (in England), and that they are on the point of offering the daughter of Portugal for the duke of Richmond, with 400,000 ducats for her portion. She is the daughter of the eldest daughter.
He said he thought the Pope would be in Spain sooner than we expect. Signed.
In Lee's hand, pp. 2. Chiefly cipher, deciphered by Tuke.
R. O. 2. Decipher of the above by Tuke.
Endd: "1527."
R. O. 3273. [GHINUCCI to _.]
"Generalis Franciscanus, ut audio, scripsit Pontificem huc venturum. Hoc autem non videtur hic ad multos penetrasse, et illi non credunt præter oratorem Pontificis qui id pro certo tenere videtur, ex eo quod asserit camerarium Pontificis in suo hinc discessu id Cæesari promisisse, portasseque propterea ad Pontificem litteras manu Cæsaris scriptas. Videtur non multum placere his qui Cæsari pecunias denegaverunt. Cæsar etiam ostendit non sibi placere, nescio si arte."
Part cipher, in Ghinucci's hand.
[Cal. E. I. II.?]
I. 152.
B. M.
3274. ARTICLES sent by the VICEROY.
"Le Roy de France treschretien et [Madame] la Regente sa mere ont offere a lemp[ereur] ce que sensuit par le visroy de Nap[les]."
That they will perform the treaty of Madrid, except that in lieu of Burgundy they will pay to the Emperor 2,000,000 of gold, a good sum at once, and the Queen to be given to him, and the rest when his children are restored; or, if the Emperor prefers it, all in one sum, the Queen and the children to be delivered at the same time.
The King will pay what the Emperor owes to the king of England. He wishes the Emperor to fix a sum for the marriage of the Queen, which the King will pay as part of the above sum, so that it shall cost the Emperor nothing.
Fr., p. 1. Endd.
17 July. 3275. THOS. DENNY.
His will, 10 May 1527. Proved, 17 July 1527. Printed in Nicolas' Testamenta Vetusta, p. 628.
18 July. R. O. 3276. DUKE OF NORFOLK to WOLSEY.
Geo. Lawson is dead, who had many offices and fees of the King's gift. Hopes Wolsey will remember the bearer, Ric. Cavendisshe, an old servant of his Grace, who has always done good service, but has neither office nor fee. Honsdon, 18 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's good grace.
18 July. R. O. 3277. NORFOLK to WOLSEY.
Hears by the bearer that the prior of Lewes is contented to resign to the chamberer of the house. Everything is ready for the resignation by Sunday next. Asks him to send Dr. Bennet, Dr. Alyn, or some other, with his power. Asks his favor for the chamberer, and desires credence for the bearer, Sir Edw. Braye, his servant. Hunsdon, 18 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace.
18 July.
R. O.
Received today two packets from him for the King, who, after reading them, summoned his Council, and bade Knight read to them Clerk's letters, the copies of Sanga's, "nuncii apostolici ad nuncium in Anglia," and those of John Joachim. He was glad that the Florentines had joined the Italian league, that Lautrec is advancing so diligently, and that so many Swiss have descended. After saying that he hoped soon to hear of some notable act against the Imperialists, he ordered Knight to write to Wolsey, desiring him to advance as speedily as possible towards the French king, to Paris, if need be, and conclude with him before an answer returns by the ambassador lately sent to the Emperor. Has told him that the King had given a passport to Philip Frauncoise, the Queen's sewer; but finding that the cause of his going was feigned for certain purposes of the Queen, he wishes him secretly to be stopped and molested in some part of France, that he may not reach Spain. If he does not pass by Wolsey, he wishes notice to be sent to my lord of Worcester, that he may discover what charge he has. This is a matter the King esteems highly. Howndysdowne, 18 July. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: [To my lord] Legate'[s grace]. Endd.
18 July.
R. O.
St. P. I. 218.
Yesterday arrived De Biez and De Langey, and arranged for Wolsey's journey to Amiens, where he will be met by Francis, who is well recovered. Will be conducted by the cardinal of Lorraine and other gentlemen, as is confirmed by letters from Joachim to Vannes. He is desired to defer his setting out till Monday, much against his will, and will be advertised at Abbeville when the King will arrive at Amiens. Has desired the escort should meet him, not in Calais, but on his entry into the French pale. Has taken order for the reparations at Calais. Certain ships have arrived here with cloth. Calais, 18 July. Signed.
In Gardiner's hand. Add.
[Cal. E. III.
B. M.
[The King] her son is much pleased to hear of Wolsey's arrival in the kingdom. Desires credence for the bearer.
Fr., hol., mutilated, p. 1. Add.: [Mons.] le Cardinal.
[Cal. E. III.
B. M.
Desires credence on behalf of the King for Mons. de Doharty (Douarty), one of the gentlemen of his chamber.
Fr., hol., mutilated, p. 1. Add.: Mons. le Cardinal, &c.
[Cal. E. III.
B. M.
The King sends the bearer to receive news from Wolsey, and to tell him of the "diligence [d]udit voyaige," and his desire to see Wolsey.
Fr., hol., p. 1, mutilated. Add.: Mons. le Cardinal.
19 July.
R. O.
St. P. I. 220.
Thanks the King for the news contained in Knight's letter of the 15th. The King is right in thinking that the purpose of Phillipes in going to Spain is to disclose the "secret matter" unto the Emperor, and devise means for preventing it. Should it come to the Emperor's ears it will prove no little hindrance. If he come this way Wolsey will have him stopped; if he goes by sea to Spain, nothing can prevent him. The best means, therefore, will be for the King to prevent him from going to Spain by sea. Calais, 19 July. Signed.
In Gardiner's hand. Add.
20 July.
R. O.
3284. CHARLES V.
1. "C'est la responce que de par l'Empereur et Roy nostre Sire a esté baillée par escript par le sieur de Bouclans, conseiller et premier secretaire, a messieurs les ambassadeurs d'Angleterre, et aussi a messieurs les ambassadeurs de France."
The French ambassadors may have learned the Emperor's desire for peace by their two interviews with his Majesty, and two subsequent communications with his Council. They have been asked if they had no other charge except what they declared at their first coming hither, which they say they have not; and as the Emperor considers their offers unreasonable, and contrary to the treaty of Madrid, he is willing, if they will point out anything in that treaty which it is impossible for Francis to fulfil, to accept any reasonable modification offered by Francis, especially at the intercession of the king of England. On receiving this answer the French insisted that it should be given to them conjointly with the ambassadors of England; to which he also consents, out of regard for the king of England. The English ambassadors have also desired an answer concerning the sums due to the King their master; and although this has been given to them already, his Majesty replies again that he will never refuse to pay it.
R. O.
Rym. XIV. 200.
ii. Copy of the writing delivered first to the English ambassadors, and afterwards to those of France.
As the king of England is endeavoring to establish peace, the Emperor desires the English ambassadors to be informed:—1, that he has no intention by this writing to make an innovation in the oath and treaty of the king of France; but, for the sake of Christendom, although the offers of Francis are very insufficient, and give no assurance that treaties will be better observed in future than hitherto, he is willing to yield a little of his rights, if Francis will make the same offers that he made to the Viceroy; viz., that he and his mother will fulfil the treaty of Madrid, provided the Emperor will leave the duke at Milan; that they will pay the Emperor 2,000,000 for Burgundy in two instalments, the first in ready money when the Queen shall be delivered to him, the rest on a day to be determined, when his children shall be restored; or, if the Emperor prefer it, that the whole sum be paid at once, the Queen and children being given up at the same time; that Francis pay the Emperor's debt to England; that Francis should desire the Emperor to appoint a sum for the marriage of the Queen, and that he would increase the aforesaid sums by so much as he should take in pay, so that the sum for the marriage should cost the Emperor nothing. These terms the Emperor is willing to listen to for the sake of the king of England, subject to eight explanatory conditions. He also desires recompence for the expence he has incurred since the treaty of Madrid in defending himself against the Leagues.
The Emperor has full trust that the King and Wolsey will ameliorate the above conditions with due regard to his right. Valladolid, 20 July 1527.
Fr., pp. 10. Add. by Lee: To my lord Legate's grace. Endd.
R. O. 2. Another copy of § ii. Valladolid,—July 1527.
"Le bon plaisir de l'Empereur sera les articles suyvans estre reformés et modeffiez en la maniere que s'ensuit."
Francis to be bound to pay for his ransom 500,000 cr. three months after the conclusion of this treaty, on payment of which the Queen and Dauphin shall be delivered to him; 500,000 cr. at the end of the sixth month, when the duke of Orleans shall be given up; and the remaining 500,000 cr. in five years by yearly instalments. Sureties to be given by Francis, &c. The word Aste to be erased on the fourth line, Aste being the ancient patrimony of Orleans, which "ledit sieur" reserves to himself.—Modification of the 6th article, which Francis would find it hard to keep;—of the 21st, touching Gueldres, whom he cannot honorably abandon;—of the 26th, touching Bourbon;—of the 28th, touching the outlaws of Milan. The 22nd, about the sovereignty of Charrolois, to be expunged; and the 3rd, about Burgundy. An addition to be made to the 44th, recognizing the treaty between France and England. The words about the form of the King's deliverance, and of the giving of hostages, the delivery of Burgundy, and other things mentioned in the 3rd article, to be expunged.
Fr., pp. 4.


  • 1. f. 166.
  • 2. This is the passage referred to in last No., p. 1485.