Henry VIII: May 1528, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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May 1528

11 May.
Vit. B. X. 85. B. M.
The letters of Gregory Casale and Gardiner have confirmed Henry's opinion of his faith, zeal and benevolence. The Pope could choose no one so fit to act as legate for the decision of the King's cause, or who would be more acceptable to his Majesty. Will assist him diligently, and begs him not to grudge the trouble of the journey. Wishes him to come as soon as possible. Has given Gardiner full directions to tell him all that has already taken place. Desires him to urge the Pope to grant what will be sufficient for the cause, and what can never be subject to revocation or appeal.
Draft by Vannes, Lat., pp. 3. Endd.: Tulit has literas Magister Barllo et Thadeus cursor qui discesserunt die xj. Maii 1528.
11 May.
R. O.
Since writing last, has had the accompanying letters, with news of a great victory at sea. Wished for a confirmation before he wrote of it; but the Bishop may take it for true, as he has heard it from several quarters. The messenger who was bringing letters from Lautrec has been taken by the Turks at sea.
Hopes soon to have better news still. Bids him inform the King and Cardinal, who, he is sure, will be glad to hear of it.
The articles brought by Morecte have since been altered. Sends them that he may be able to answer if they are spoken of. Will send back Morecte shortly. St. Germain en Laye, 11 May. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
[11 May.]
Harl. 419. f. 103. B. M. Strype's Mem. I. II. 26. Pocock, I. 141.
4251. [FOX] to GARDINER.
Wrote him two letters on 27 April: the first from Paris, notifying his arrival there; the other in the fields on horseback, four miles from Clermont, about a meeting with Sylvester Darius there, who was sent by the King and Wolsey ambassador into Spain. Received from him my Lord's letters directed to you, Mr. Gregory, and me. Had eftsoons closed and sealed them, and sent them to my lord of Bath to be conveyed to you; and continued my journey to Calais, the 28 April, from which I obtained passage on 2 May, and arrived at Sandwich that night. Next day, Sunday, made all diligence towards Greenwich, where I expected to find my Lord's grace with the King, but experienced as great civilities from the mayor of Canterbury and bailiffs of Rochester and Gravesend as we did in the territory of Florence. On arrival, at 5 p.m., Wolsey had left Greenwich two hours before; but the King commanded me to go to Mrs. Anne's chamber, who, as my lady Princess and others of the Queen's maidens were sick of the smallpox, lay in the gallery of the tiltyard. Declared to her your singular diligence and dexterity in obtaining such expeditions, and in hastening the coming of the Legate with your hearty recommendations, for which she seemed to be most grateful, "oftentimes in communication calling me (fn. 1) Master Stephens, with promise of large recompence for your good acquittal." The King then entered the chamber, and Mrs. Anne left, when, calling me apart, his Highness welcomed me home, and bid me show him shortly what was done in his cause. Delivered the Pope's letters and yours, and the bishop Staphile's. He read yours secretly to himself, but the Bishop's he read not. Told him that we had followed his instructions to obtain a dispensation and a commission according to the form prescribed. Rehearsed our arguments used towards the Pope, and said that his Holiness had passed the same without alteration of a word, and sent it by me to his Highness. Explained to him the difficulties raised by the Cardinals and other learned men about granting the first of the three kinds of commissions; viz., the decretal. Told him that, as to the two points omitted, the Pope was willing to satisfy him to the best of his power, which he might do in the following manner; viz., grant under his seal that, the sentence once given by the delegates, he would confirm it without delay, and promise never to revoke it or give inhibition to the contrary. With all this the King seemed marvellously well pleased, and, calling in Mrs. Anne, bid me repeat it all to her. Was questioned at great length what good will we found in the Pope towards the King; which I ceased not to extol, telling how honorably we were entertained, and how freely we were admitted to his presence, how much his Holiness pondered the dangers of the realm if the King's purpose should not take effect, and the private opinion he had given of the justice of the King's cause. Took occasion to speak of the effect of Wolsey's letters, without which we should have obtained nothing; for the Pope declared to us he had been told, long before our coming, that the King wanted this only for private reasons, "and that she was with child, and of no such qualities as should be worthy that Majesty;" but Wolsey's letters proved the contrary. Was asked about the consultations of the learned men of that court; on which he related the discussions and daily meetings we had had before the Pope, and privately in Mr. Gregory's house; "wherein I ceased not to declare your learning and vehemence used, and also Mr. Gregory his diligence and authority, de quibus malo aliorum prædicatione constet tibi quam meis verbis. Certe sic mihi visus est affectus Rex erga te, ut sperem fore quum nos omnes amici tui felicissime collocatam hanc operam tuam gloriabimur." Being asked what provision was made against recusation and appeal, showed that words were inserted in the commission by which these were excluded, as far as the law would allow. With this he seemed to be satisfied, but said he would take Wolsey's judgement on the matter.
It was past 10 p.m. before he reached Durham Place, where Wolsey now lies, "the hall of York Place with other edifices there being now in building, my lord's Grace intending most sumptuously and gorgeously to repair and furnish the same;" but though Wolsey was in bed he was admitted to his presence. After showing him that by no ways we could obtain the decretal, he seemed much perplexed, thinking this commission to be of no more value than that sent by Gambara. Was commanded to leave it with him that night, with the Pope's and your rationes justificatorias commissioni expeditæ; which after he had read in the morning and well considered, he called Dr. Bell and me to him on Monday afternoon to read the same. This was done in presence of my lord of Rochford, when his opinion was confirmed, and even they were satisfied that the commission was such that no better could be devised; that the decretal commission was not to be shown in public, "and that there might have been recusatio et appellatio, as well if process had been made by it as by this, with many other reasons, which he of his innate and excellent wisdom most quickly invented to the justification of your doing in this matter, with much praise and laud giving unto you for the same." Wolsey appointed next day a consultation with Drs. Wolman and Benet upon the said commission, and commanded me to go and report his opinion to the King, and what new expedition he purposed to make to you for the perfect consummation of the King's desires. The King was highly satisfied, and sent me back to my Lord that night, but Wolsey had been too busy to speak with the said doctors.
Next day, Wednesday, they all assembled before him; and I was afterwards informed, having been sent that morning by Wolsey to Greenwich, that they all agreed in his opinion, extolling your great wisdom and dexterity. On my return that afternoon, my Lord called Mr. Peter (fn. 2) and me, instructed the former of the form of answers he meant to make to the Pope, and directed me to write to you under this tenor; that although what you had already done was so highly satisfactory that no further commission might seem necessary, and the King and Wolsey do not cease to extol your praises, "exclaiming, O non æstimandum thesaurum margarytumque regni nostri! to the great comfort and rejoice of us your poor friends here;" yet Wolsey, as of himself, for the discharge of his own conscience, with the consent of the other prelates here, and considering the chances of mortality, desires you to press the Pope with all possible persuasions to grant the commission decretal, to be sent here to his Grace in the most secret fashion, for these causes: 1st, that the sentence, being once given by the Pope et judicio ecclesiæ, might be a rule how to proceed in this matter, and defeat all tergiversation of the adversary in future; 2nd, that by means of it he can easily induce all those who take the adversary's part to conform to his Grace's opinion; 3rd, that, considering the uncertainty of life, he thinks it better to enter pelagus illud judiciorum by an open investigation of the cause, but everything hangs at present upon the sole will of the Pope, viz. if he will confirm,—which many things may interfere with; 4th, that it would conduce greatly to the stability of the Holy See if Wolsey were of such authority and estimation with the King that whatever he should advise, Henry would readily assent to,—for which no means would be so effectual as that the Pope should grant this commission decretal at his request. You are therefore to state, as his Grace never intends to make process by virtue thereof, or to show it to any person, whereby the least slander may arise or prejudice to the Apostolic See, but only to the King as a means of augmenting his own influence with him, "of which thing his Grace willeth also you make faith and promise in animam suam, under most sacred oath and obtestation," that you still urge his Holiness to pass the said decretal. If after three or four congresses you see no reason to expect that he will relent, you are to return home, leaving that suit to be prosecuted by Mr. Gregory and other the King's friends there. Moreover, as the jurisconsulti here say continually that the Queen may appeal, you are to consult with the most learned men in that court whether she may do so or not; and if she do, what will be its validity, and whether the Legates may proceed notwithstanding, or what remedy may be used by remission of the appeal and confirmation of the sentence per superiorem judicem; and whether, the appeal made, the parties may redire ad nova vota before confirmation, &c. While also Wolsey approves your rationes justificatorias, which you will receive again enclosed herewith lest you lose the copy, he wishes you to have them read and examined by the said learned men to add to and aprove and sign. These instructions you will receive in Wolsey's own letters; but as my Lord commanded me to inform you of them, I was busy all Thursday penning them, which, for lack of experience, was a painful task to me.
On Friday, Mr. Tuke having perfected my Lord's expedition to you, his Grace called me to hear the reading of it, and bid me show him the draft of this letter, and afterwards report the effect of these expeditions to the King, and show him a copy of the Pope's letters to be written with his own hand. With this the King was well satisfied, and seemed to desire nothing so much as that you should set forth the said expedition, and return with all celerity. On Saturday following my Lord called Mr. Bell and me to his presence, and commanded me to desire you to consult with Staphile and others,—first, whether the said bull would be invalidated if the Queen, as he is informed she will do, renouncing all benefit from the dispensation of Julius, recur only to the allegation quod non fuit cognita ab Arthuro, there being no mention made in the same de publica honestate; "for sith the bull dispenseth only cum affinitate cujusmodi, if her allegation should be true, nulla intercessit inter contrahentes, and being necessary the same to be dispensed with argueth the matrimony to be illegitime, in his Grace's opinion, wherein his Grace would gladly be resolved by your and other learned men his judgments." More over, the wording of the commission requires, first, that the validity or invalidity of the bull be determined; 2nd, the illegitimacy, or otherwise, of the marriage; and 3rd, that sentence of divorce be given. The learned men here are in doubt whether three separate sentences should be given in these three cases, or whether one as to the nullity of the marriage would include the other two. Wolsey is determined to proceed conscientiously, and thinks he has one strong ground to go upon, viz. that the King himself knew nothing of the obtaining of the bull, "whereof he is ascertained not only by the King's relation, but also by my lord of Winchester;" and he wishes you, without appearing to doubt the justice of the cause, to obtain an opinion upon this point from the bishop of Ancona, or some one of equal learning.
Was at Greenwich on Sunday with my Lord, who intended that day to have despatched such expeditions as he now sends by Mr. Barloo; but on reading them before the King, being present Tuke, Wolman, Bell, and I, Mr. Wolman raised another scruple, which you must discuss with learned men there, viz., whether the clause in the commission excluding appeal be not invalidated by the circumstance that the commission contains both officium nobile and also mercenarium, and that it will be in the latter function only that the Legate can declare the marriage null. This difficulty is set forth at some length. On this point you are to state your opinion boldly, the King being quite resolved to do nothing illegal, and being persuaded that the Queen by using the right of appeal would do much to advance his cause,—an opinion which my Lord has by degrees instilled into his mind. "Insomuch that yesterday, to my great marvel and no less joy and comfort, his Grace openly, in presence of Mr. Tuke, Mr. Wolman, Mr. Bell, and me, made protestation to the King's highness that although he was so much bound unto the same as any subject might be to his prince, and by reason thereof his Grace was of so perfect devotion, faith and loyalty towards his Majesty that he could gladly spend goods, blood and life in his just causes, yet sith his Grace was more obliged to God, and that he was sure he should render an account de operibus suis before Him, he would in this matter rather suffer his high indignation, yea, and his body jointly to be torn in pieces, than he would do anything in this cause otherwise than justice requireth, ne that his Highness should look after any other favor to be ministered unto him in this cause on his Grace's party, than the justice of the cause would bear; but if the bull were sufficient he would so pronounce it."
P.S.—Was sent for this Monday by the King, and desired to inform you of two things which he thinks specially important to be set forth; first, the commission decretal to be obtained according to my Lord's instructions now sent, which if you despair of obtaining, ye then, Master Stephens, shall say to the Pope that you are seriously afraid the refusal of so just a petition may work in the King's breast to alienate him from the Pope, seeing that he has never heretofore done anything for Henry's own sake,—a result which would be very prejudicial to his Holiness. After saying this, you are to cease further suit therein, and you and Mr. Gregory shall study by all possible means to obtain the said decretal.
Pp. 15. Copy, in Gardiner's hand.
Thanks him for letters: the first touching "the condition of my manor of Sowthwell, with the parks and woods there;" and the second notifying that he had committed to ward in Nottingham Castle "a lewd person" for unfitting language. The King's council "well alloweth" his conduct, and desire him to send the said person hither with the depositions against him. I have ordered Tonys (fn. 3) to make and seal your patents, (fn. 4) and ere long will provide better things for you. Desires him to levy his money with all diligence.
P. 1; draft, in Wolsey's hand.
11 May.
R. O.
In Feb. last received a letter from Wolsey, forwarded by the earl of Northumberland; to which she made answer from Striviling Castle, 2 March, when she asked for a safe-conduct. Hopes, as it is for the honor both of himself and his nephew, Henry will grant it "in sort and manner" as mentioned in that letter. Edinburgh, 11 May. Signed.
P. 1, broadsheet. Add. Endd.
11 May.
Strype's Mem. I. ii. 59.
Abjuration by William Bocher, of Steple Bumstede, ploughwright, before Cuthbert bishop of London, of heresies concerning the sacrament of the altar, pardons and pilgrimages. Signed with a cross.
On the 11 May 1528, in the chapel in the manor house of the bishop of Norwich by Charing Cross, before Cuthbert bishop of London, ...
"Nota, quod iste oritur de stirpe vitiata, quia avus patris sui erat ob hæresim concrematus, ut dicitur."
Ib. I. ii. 60. 2. On the 11th May 1528, Rob. Hemstede, of Bumstede ad Turrim, appeared before the bp. of London at the manor house of the bp. of Norwich at Charing Cross, and read an abjuration of heresy, acknowledging communications with Sir Ric. Fox, John Tyball, John Smyth, and Frere Topley, the last of whom said, if he did not believe as they taught, he was no true Christian man. He was led into heresy about the sacrament of the altar by Sir Ric. Fox, curate of Bumstede. At first he told Sir Richard, "I fear me, ye go about to bring me in the taking the men of Colchester be in." But the latter replied, "What, man, art thou afraid? Be not afeard. For those serve a better master than ever thou diddest." He has thought that pardons did not profit.
Ib. I. ii. 61. 3. On the 11th May 1528, as above, Thos. Hemsted confesses that his wife taught him the Paternoster, Ave Maria and Credo, in English, which she learned of Gilbert Shipwright, deceased. Some time after, he was chosen churchwarden of Bumstede, with John Tyball, and was often in his company and that of Sir Richard Fox, who, knowing what his wife had taught him, called him "brother in Christ," and "a known man." Has heard their reading and teaching for a year without disclosing them. About Shrovetide last was taught by Thomas Hilles that pardons were not profitable; and about "Fastyngham" last, was taught by Fox that the sacrament of the altar is not the very body of Christ, but done for a remembrance of Christ's Passion; and that pilgrimages were of no effect. The following persons are of the same sect, and have been taught by Fox, Tyball and Friar Gardyner: Edmond Tyball and his wife, Joan Bocher, widow, the wife of George Preston, Joan Hempsted, the respondent's wife, John, filius ejus naturalis, and Robert Faire, lay persons of Bumstede; John Wyggen, Thomas Topley, and William Gardyner, Austin Friars of Clare; John Chapman and Thomas Hilles of Wytham; William Browne and John Crancford, of Bumstede.
Harl. MS. 421,
f. 27. B. M.
4. Abjuration of Robert Hempstede, of Steple Bumstede, husbandman, before Cuthbert bp. of London, of the opinion that the sacrament of the altar is not the very body of Christ, and that pardons are of no effect. Signed with a cross.
Pp. 2.
12 May.
R. O.
Wrote last about the defeat of the Imperial fleet. Sends a copy of the letters of Card. Colonna and of the nuncio with Lautrec. The viscount of Lorraine and the president of Provence have come to the Pope from Francis, begging him to declare for the allies, to which our ambassadors have long urged him. His Holiness makes the usual excuse, that he wishes the cities taken by the Venetians to be restored; to which they answer that the King intends that they shall be restored, and that they had orders to assist him in all that he should desire, and especially in this restitution.
A new French ambassador has just arrived here, the late one having returned to France. Hears from him that he is to urge the Signory to this restitution. Have persuaded them to send an ambassador to the Pope; which they will do in three days. It is reported that 800 horse have arrived at Trent, and many infantry, though in disorder. Preparations for their resistance are talked of daily here. The French ambassador has been this morning pressing the Signory to contribute to the pay of the 6,000 German foot, whom the King is going to send to Italy. He writes that he will send in addition 1,400 French foot and 100 men-at-arms, who serve under the son of the duke of Savoy, with others, who are said already to have arrived in Italy. He has written to all his allies, including the dukes of Savoy and Ferrara, and the marquis of Mantua, to assist this enterprise. The Signory are preparing a numerous army of Italian foot, and fortifying towns. Lautrec has pitched his camp at half a mile from Naples, whence daily incursions are made. Venice, 12 May 1528. Signed.
Lat., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
12 May.
R. O.
Commission to don Inigo de Mendoça, bp. elect of Burgos, Wm. de Barres, and John de le Sauch, to conclude a mercantile truce with the kings of England and France. Malines, 12 May 1528. Signed.
Fr. Great seal of Margaret attached.
12 May.
R. O. Rym. XIV. 239. ecclesiastics. Lat.
Bull of Clement VII., empowering cardiual Wolsey to degrade Orvieto, 12 May 1528.
13 May.
R. O.
Wrote yesterday, but the courier did not leave. Received letters this morning from the ambassadors with the Pope, of which he encloses copies. Wolsey will see thereby that divine punishment has begun to overtake the Colonnas. Sends the names of the captains, and the number of the new German army, part of which is already near the Veronese. Venice, 13 May 1528. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
14 May.
R. O. Rym. XIV. 240.
Bull of Clement VII. to cardinal Wolsey for the suppression of the monasteries of Romborow, Felixstow, Bromehil, Bliborow and Montjoye. Orvieto, prid. id. Maii 1528.
Lat., vellum.
14 May.
R. O. Rym. XIV. 241.
2. Bull for the suppression and annexation of St. Peter's, St. Nicholas's, St. Clement's and St. Mary's, Ipswich, and of Wersted and Cretyngham, to the college at Ipswich. Orvieto, prid. id. Maii 1528.
Lat., vellum.
3. Bull for the suppression of the nunnery of Pré. (fn. 5)
R. O. Rough draft, Lat., pp. 7.
14 May.
Strype's Mem. I. 488.
Articles ministered against Humfrey Munmouthe, of the parish of All Saints Barking, London.
1. That he knew that Luther and his opinions were condemned as heretical, and that his books were prohibited in England, in April 1521. 2. That he has bought and kept many books by Luther and his sect. 3. That he has helped and given exhibition to persons occupied in translating the Bible, and making erroneous books from it; as Sir William Hochin alias Tyndalle, priest, and friar Roye, an apostate Observant. 4. That he helped Tyndalle and Roye to go to Almayne to study Luther's sect. 5. That he had books of Luther's translated into English, as well as his book De Libertate Christiana, and his exposition upon the Pater Noster. 6. That the De Libertate Christiana was written in the beginning and drawn out of St. Augustine's works, and the exposition of the Pater Noster ascribed to Hilarius, to blind and abuse the readers. 7. That he has helped the translation of the New Testament by Tyndal and Roye, as well as its printing and importation. 8. That he has read and kept the translation after it was openly forbidden as being full of errors. 9. That he has kept and read an English introduction to St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans. 10. That other books, full of errors, translated into English, have been sent to him by Tyndalle. 11. That he has been privy to the printing, beyond sea, of detestable English books against the sacrament of the Altar, the Mass, and other observances of the Church. 12. That he has caused books by Luther and friar Lambert to be translated into English. 13. That he has eaten flesh in Lent. 14. That he has said and believed that faith without works is sufficient to save a man's soul. 15. That all men are not bound to observe the constitutions of the Church. 16. That we should pray to God, and not to Saints. 17. That Christians ought to worship God only, and not Saints. 18. That pilgrimages should not be used. 19. That men should not offer to images in church, nor set lights before them. 20. That contrition and confession to God alone are sufficient for a man in deadly sin. 21. That no man is bound to keep fast days. 22. That pardons granted by the Pope or a bishop are not profitable. 23. That he is considered an advancer and favorer of Luther and his heresies. 24. That the above is true and notorious, and commonly reported in London and elsewhere.
15 May.
Harl. MS. 442, f. 91. B. M.
Proclamation published in the Chancery, ordering the secret disclosing to the lord Legate, chancellor of England, of the names of persons who keep more farms than one, or have enclosed grounds or pastures to the hurt of the commonwealth. The informations will be received by Mr. Throgmorton and Mr. Claybrugh, masters of the Chancery.
This proclamation was made in the Chancery, 15 May 20 Hen. VIII.
Modern copy, p. 1.
15 May.
Nero, B. II. 103*. B. M.
4262. CHRISTOPHER DE S[CHYDLOVYECZ], Castellan of Cracow and Chancellor of Poland, to [HENRY VIII.]
Offers his services to the King, and commends to him Stanislaus Cipser, consul of Cracow, who is going to England with sables bought for the King. Cracow, 15 May 1528. Signed.
Lat., p. 1.
15 May.
R. O. St. P. II. 127.
Have written to the King of the misfortune of the Vice-deputy (baron Delvin), who was taken prisoner by O'Chonour at a parley, and many of his men slain and taken.
The rebels are so emboldened that it is feared great damage will ensue to the King's subjects. The Englishry are so destitute of captains that they have chosen Sir Thomas Fitzgarrat captain, till the King provides otherwise; the Garrantynes being next to the defence of these countries, and the earl of Ossory so far that the country might be sore damaged before his coming hither. Have often advised the Vice-deputy to beware of O'Chonour, and to pay him the wages enjoyed by him and his predecessors, as he had made confederacies with divers great Irishmen in case the Vice-deputy attempted anything against him. Do not know what peril will ensue for lack of defence, for nothing can be done without destroying the land by coyne and livery, or without great expence to the King. The revenues are so diminished that the Deputy has little or nothing for his expences after paying the ordinary fees. Ask Wolsey to provide aid for them. Enclose a letter from the prior of Conall, a lord of Parliament, whom they have sent to O'Chonour. Dublin, 15 May. Signed: H. Dublinens.—G. Armachan—W. V. of G. [viscount of Gormanstown]—P. Bermynghem, justice—P. Fynglas, baron of th'escheker. Sealed.
Add.: To, &c. the Cardinal of York, legate and chancellor. Endd.
15 May.
R. O.
On receipt of the Archbishop's letters, went to O'Concor, whom he found on the confines of his own country. Presented the letters to him, and explained their purport, when he said that he had often offered peace and obedience to the Baron [Delvin], and entreated him not to give him occasion to league himself again with the Irish chieftains, by keeping from him the King's wages (regium stipendium). The Baron, however, not only denied him peace, but refused to pay him his wages, arrested a rider whom he had sent to Dublin on a mission, and was with difficulty persuaded to let him go. On the day of this Parliament he offered hostages in the hands of Thomas, son of the earl of Kildare, for all claims the Baron had against him; but the Baron refused them, and, as O'Concor asserts, refused to make a truce. Thus he lays all the blame upon the Baron, who, he says, compelled him to make a league with O'Kerwayll and other Irishmen, without whose counsel he will not now make peace or truce. He demands his wages to be paid at regular terms, and if any of his servants be proved to have injured any of the King's subjects he will compel them to make restitution; also that if any one of Offaly has had uninterrupted payment of black rent for a long time, it may be paid still. (fn. 6) When the writer desired him to appoint a term of truce, during which the Archbishop and the Council could take this into consideration, he refused it. He believes he can overrun the English pale without resistance. He was willing to spare churches and churchyards if the Deputy would do the same. He is so elated with his prosperity, it is to be feared he will burn Athboy, Molingar and Trym. I have brought with me the abbot of Clonnard, who willingly labors for the public good. Ballebogan, 15 May 1528.
Hol., Lat., pp. 2. Add.: Rmo, &c., H. Dublin. archiepiscopo Hiberniæ primati et archicancellario.
15 May.
Lamb. MS. 602, f. 81. St. P. II. 129.
The baron of Delvin, who has the governance of the country here, has had continual dissensions with O'Chonor since the departure of the earl of Kildare on account of robberies committed on Englishmen. For this reason the Vice-deputy stopped O'Chonor's tribute. On the 12th inst. a parliament was appointed, near his country, by a castle of Sir Wm. Darcy's called Rathyn; when Delvyn was taken by treachery, all his footmen slain, some of his horsemen wounded, and Christopher Cusake and others taken. Encloses a copy of the prior of Conall's letter. Wrote to him and Sir Walter Delahide as soon as they heard of it, asking them to speak to O'Chonor for the Vice-deputy's deliverance. These parts are destitute of good captains and soldiers. "The strength (if any be) is by the Garrantynes." Have therefore appointed Sir Thos. Fitzgarrat captain in these parts. Considering the great affairs which the earl of Ossory has in his country, great peril will ensue without help from England. The revenues have so decreased that they are not sufficient for ordinary charges. The Irish perceive the debility of the Englishry. Ask credence for the bearer, who is going to the King and Cardinal, if Norfolk think it expedient. Dublin, 15 May. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: To the duke of Norfolk, treasurer of England.
16 May.
R. O.
Her confidence in Wolsey will make her speak openly to him. Has been much astonished at Clerk's statement that Henry is not bound to make actual war on the Emperor until he has refused all means of coming to a peace, while he persists in as high terms for the Emperor as before the expence incurred by this voyage of Lautrec and by the rest of the League. Though she considers the friendship indissoluble, asks him to reconsider his advice. Thinks, as the League is so prosperous, that they should use other language.
All her desire is for the restoration of her children and the good of peace, for which it is easily seen the enemy have no desire, but rather to destroy the League by dissimulation. Desires credence for Morette. The Emperor has treated the children with great inhumanity. He has taken away all their servants, and intends to put them in the galleys by force. St. Germain-en-Laye, 16 May. Signed.
Fr., pp. 3. Add.: A Mons. le Cardinal, mon bon fils et pere. Endd.
16 May.
Vesp. F. III. 57 b. B. M.
Thinks, from his letter to her, that hers will not be unpleasant to him. Commends herself to him as the means of good to Christendom, and the bond of friendship between the two Princes. The sieur De Morette will tell him the news. Madame desires her to inform him that she is in the fourth month of her pregnancy, which she dares not believe herself. Prays to have a son. She and the king of Navarre will leave him to inherit their affection for the King and Wolsey.
Hol., Fr., p. 1. Add.: A Mons. mon bon frere, Mons. le Legat. Endd.: A domina Regina Navarræ die xvj. Maii.
16 May.
R. O.
In answer to the articles declared by Clerk, the King sends Morette, the bearer, and wishes for a speedy answer by him. St. Germain-en-Laye, 16 May. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A M. M. le Cardinal arcevesque d'York, legat et chancellier d'Angleterre. Endd.
16 May.
R. O.
Has sent a separate safe-conduct for the messenger of lady Margaret. If he does not come, Sylvester is to go without him. He can tell the Emperor that the messenger had arrived at Paris, and he left, expecting him to follow. The Emperor will doubtless gladly listen to what he will say about the new offers. He must first say, for the honor of the Princes, that Wolsey would never have sent him unless lady Margaret had promised to send also; and that he greatly doubts what to do, as her messenger has not come, but that, for the good of peace, he will venture to do what otherwise he would not have dared. With this preface, he can speak, as if from himself and without commission, of a treaty of peace with the Emperor, in Wolsey's name, even if the other person does not come. He will doubtless arrive, however, for Clerk sent his steward with the safe-conduct; if necessary, will go himself to urge him to it. Poissy, 16 May 1528.
Lat., p. 1. Endd.: Copia literarum D. Bathon. ad D. Sylvestrum, die xvj. Maii.
16 May.
R. O.
4270. CLERK to TUKE.
Wrote to Wolsey at length on the 9th and 13th inst.
The news from Naples is not confirmed, but is believed to be true. It is rumored that the city also is taken. Master Sylvester departs today. As he lies in Paris, lady Margaret's messenger seven leagues hence, and Clerk three miles from the Court, it is not wonderful that a long time is consumed in sending to and fro. If they had not used good policy, lady Margaret's man would have gone no further. Poysy, 16 May.
Has told Sylvester not to wait for lady Margaret's servant, as they will not have post horses enough to go together. If the messenger is delayed, Sylvester is to say what Tuke will see in the enclosed copy of a letter to him. Much is committed to his (Clerk's) discretion. Hopes he does nothing amiss. "Master Tuke, for Goddis saake lett us lef thes cerymonyes, specially who shall speke fyrst; which is heer to moche regardyd." Told my Lady that she, being a woman, should, rather than fail, go down on her knees to the Emperor for her children. Thinks she scarcely took it in good part. There would be a great likelihood of peace, if there were a little humility on both sides, specially on that that has most need, but "we be here far from it."
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
Vesp. C. XIII.
Has received his letters. Would have visited Wolsey immediately on the departure of Darius, had it not been for a sickness occasioned by the death of his uncle. Has sent a servant to appoint an audience with the Legate. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.: "Ab oratore Cæsaris, D. Silvestro Dario."
16 May.
Vesp. F. III.
86 b.
B. M.
Desires credence for his ambassador, Joannes Statilius, bishop elect of Transilvania. Tharnow, 16 May 1528, regnorum secundo. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
16 May.
Vesp. F. I. 77.
B. M.
To the same effect. Same date. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
16 May.
Titus, B. I. 64.
B. M.
Sign manual to the prior of Tunbridge, in behalf of Richard Fissher, gentleman usher of the Chamber, who had been expelled from the parsonage of Legh (Kent), of which he held a lease, in favor of one Cooke. Greenwich, 16 May. Countersigned: "John Lincolln—Ric. Vuoleman."
P.1. Add.
16 May.
R. O.
Has received his letter. Maister Dean (Higdon) is here. He had previously been at Sandwall, Canwall, Ragdale and Salford, and has finished at Denton Basset, where they held a court. The vicarage is set to the vicar for 7l., and he to have no further promotion. He has also been at Bysbroke, Foxton, Cold Assheby and Westhaddon, and intends to stop here six days. He has let the manor of Daventry with the tithe, and Throper Closys, to Travys of Oxford, for 20l. more than it was let at before. He is trying to let all the parsonages and farms at a higher rent than before. Will attend on him. Brabazon's horse has been ill. Daventry, 16 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
17 May.
R. O.
Since coming to Kent, has spoken to many who contributed to the loan, but they never mention it. They strongly disapprove of the behavior of those who came to my lord of Canterbury. Trusts, therefore, the demands of the loan are at a point for this time. The clothiers complain that they have so little sale that they will not be able to keep as many men as formerly, and if they are compelled to abandon their trade great numbers will be left idle. However, with his brother Sir Edward, his brother Wotton, and his brother George, he has so handled them that they shall not lack occupation till harvest time. Will keep a vigilant eye on them, and hopes no evil demeanor will happen in these parts.
Hopes Wolsey will find some remedy, for they will not be able to exercise their occupation long. Asks that his brother Wotton may be again put in the commission of the peace, and "corum." As he is now made knight, he has no authority to sit by this commission, which is a great lack here. Asks him to put in John Cromer, who is a wise man, and always ready to accomplish the King's and Wolsey's commands. Ledds, 17 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace. Endd.
17 May.
R. O.
By Wolsey's procurement Mr. Butts has come to him from the King, without whose aid he thinks he should not have recovered. Requests that the bearer may have the King's letters to the Pope, that the prior of Connall may have the see of Kildare in commendam. It is not worth more than 100 marks a year, and the man is a native of that country who has deserved his promotion for his true service to the King. Requests him to hear Cowley, the bearer, on the subject, and sends a letter in the Prior's favor from the chancellor of Ireland. Hears that the archbishop of Cashel is come to get a grant from the King, that no coyne or livery be put within his diocese. Warns Wolsey that this would greatly diminish the strength of the earl of Ossory, who is the Archbishop's father. Stoke, 17 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
17 May.
R. O.
Mr. Dean is at Daventry, and will stay there till Tuesday next, when he will prepare to go to Ravenston, Tykford and Bradwell. He has let the parsonage and manor of Daventry to Travers of Oxford, the parsonage of Scareton to one Glyn, and that of Norton to Smyth of Daventry, the bailiff. His policy is to enhance the rents of parsonages and farms. Bakedale parsonage will be settled at Michaelmas in London. Parker, the treasurer of Lincoln, will very likely have the parsonage of Scalford, but must pay 10l. this year, and more next, instead of 7l. 3s. 4d., the former rent. Wanted it for himself, as it was necessary to him, and is only two miles from where he was born; but the Treasurer is very anxious for it, and the man who pays the most rent will have it. Cromwell had better write next to Newport Panel, beside Tykford. The Dean will be there on Thursday. He is a worshipful, wise man, but somewhat too hard in the preferment of the college and rearing rents. Will be with Crumwell by Whit-Sunday. Daventry, Sunday, 18 May. (fn. 7)
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To, &c., Mr. Crumwell.
18 May.
R. O.
Has received his letters by Mr. Vyllers, desiring him to send my Lord's grace 1,000 marks. Is so sore charged he cannot do it. Has paid 100l. to his old master, and at the beginning of this term sent by Mr. Montague to my Lord, "for ower old fader dett," 100l. Has also paid the King 100l. for free election and restitution of temporalities, and nearly 140l. for the subsidy due last Candlemas. Sends 100l. to my Lord by the bearer, Mr. Vyllers. Had only 1,000l. of his old master, and Dan Francis spent 100l. on our election when I was at London. By my Lord's command, must make a doctor at Midsummer, which will cost him over 20l., and a bachelor of divinity, which will cost 10l. Must pay his old master's pension, and keep Strubryche fair, which will cost 200 marks. The "livelode" of the house was never so far in decay, and he is fain to borrow. Peterborough, 18 May.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
19 May.
R. O.
4280. TREATY.
Commission to Cuthbert bishop of London, and Brian Tuke, to conclude a truce with Margaret of Savoy, in conjunction with the ambassadors of France. Greenwich, 19 May 1528.
French. Great Seal attached.
19 May.
R. O.
Thanks him for his advice by Dr. Cleybroke to follow the King's pleasure about the collation of a benefice and prebend in his patronage. Asks him to explain to the King that it was not in his hands, but had "passed by vowson" under his writing, as he wrote to the King. If he had known again that the King wished to have it, would have accomplished his pleasure. Has accordingly sent the collations of both by Dr. Clabroke. Asks Wolsey to intercede with the King to take him again into his old favor, or he will not long continue in this life, for he cannot bear the least jot of his displeasure. Would have come in person if he were able to go or ride. "Att my hous, Holborn," 19 May.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: To my lord Legate his grace. Endd.
19 May.
Strype's Mem.
I. Pt. ii. No. 89.
Petition of Humphrey Monmouth, draper, of London, to Wolsey and the Council, 19 May 20 Hen. VIII.
On May 14th was sent for to Sir John Dauncie's, by Sir Thomas Moore and Sir Wm. Kingeston, who asked him what letters and books he had lately received from beyond sea. Denied that he had received any. They then asked him what exhibition he gave to any one beyond sea. Answered that he had given none for three years. They asked if he was acquainted with many persons, none of whom he knew. Said that four years ago he gave [an exhibition] to a priest, called Sir William Tyndal alias Hotchens. Kingston and More then took him to his house, which they searched, and examined all the letters and books, but found nothing which they regarded. Returned to Sir John Dauncy, and was delivered to Sir Edmond Walsingham, lieutenant of the Tower.
Four years and a half ago, heard Tyndal preach two or three sermons at St. Dunstan's in the West. Chanced to meet him, and was told by him that he had no living, but hoped to get into the bishop of London's service; for which reason Monmouth "had the better fantasy to him." Afterward he came and asked for help, as the Bishop wanted no more chaplains. Took him into his house for half a year, where he lived like a good priest. He studied most of the day and night, ate only sodden meat, drank small single beer, and never wore linen. Promised him 10l. to pray for the souls of his father and mother, and paid it to him at Hamburgh. A year after, sent him, by Hans Collenbeke, of the Stilyard, 10l. more, which he had got from other men, and left with Monmouth.
Has never sent him money since, nor ever will. Has given more exhibitions to scholars. Dr. Royston, the bishop of London's chaplain, has cost him 40l. or 50l.; and Dr. Wooderal, provincial of the Augustin Friars, as much or more. Has also given money to Dr. Watson, the King's chaplain, and to scholars, priests and friars, at his request. Is he to be blamed if any other of these turn as this priest has done?
Tyndal sent him an English book, called Enchiridion, which he sent to the abbess of Dennye at her request. That house has cost him more than 50l. Had another copy of the same book, which a friar of Greenwich asked for. Thinks the bishop of Rochester has it. Had also the Paternoster in English, but how it came to his house he cannot tell; and De Libertate Christiana, given him by Arnold, a young man, who has gone into Spain to Mr. Woodall, who went with Sir John (Richard) Wingfield, the ambassador. Gave these to the confessor of Sion, with a book of the New Testament, which the bishop of London had. Had also a little treatise which Tyndal sent him when he sent for his money. All these books, except the New Testament, have been openly in his house for more than two years, and he has never heard priest, friar or layman find any great fault with them. Has shown them to Dr. Watson, Dr. Stochouse, parson of Laname, Suffolk, the father confessor of Sion, and to Mr. Martyn, parson of Totingebeke; and they found no fault in them, except that they said that in the De Libertate there were things somewhat hard, except the reader were wise. Would not have showed them to so many men if he had thought they were not good. If learned men had told him they were evil books, would have put them away. If then he had kept them, would have been worthy of punishment.
The first time he knew any evil of Tyndal was when the bishop of London preached at St. Paul's Cross, and said that he had translated the New Testament naughtily. Shortly after, burnt all Tyndal's letters, treatises and sermons, and copies of books written by his servant. Burnt them more "for fear of the translator" than for any ill he knew in them.
Has utterly lost his name and credit by this imprisonment. Buys cloths in Suffolk, paying for them weekly; and if the clothiers fail of their money, they cannot set the poor folks to work. Other merchants would not buy them.
Usually sells 400 or 500 cloths every year to foreigners, which bring more customs to the King than if he exported five times the number.
Usually sells most between Christmas and Whitsuntide, but he has only sold 22 since Christmas, and no one asks for them. Will be utterly undone if he remains in prison.
If he had broken most of the Ten Commandments, [would be forgiven,] as he had pardons a pœna and a culpa granted him by the Pope at Rome, when on his way to Jerusalem, and he received a similar pardon from Wolsey, when his Grace was last at St. Paul's.
Asks for forgiveness.
20 May.
R. O.
St. P. II. 130.
Two days after he wrote of the lord Deputy's (Vice-Deputy's) misfortune, in whose company he was, he passed through O'Konour's country with his safe-conduct, and was allowed to speak to the Deputy at O'Konour's house, where he is closely kept, but only openly in Irish, so that their conversation might be understood. Treated with O'Konour for the security of the King's subjects, seeing that he had a sufficient gage for any rightful demand. He answered that he would be at peace, if he had his wages, the Deputy's ransom, and the bond of the King's subjects not to be revenged. Durst not reply, being in his power; but broke his mind to Master Whyt, the only person there whom he could trust. Asked Cayere, O'Konour's second brother, who is next to him, to accompany him to see him safe out of the country; and then persuaded him to come on to the earl of Ossory, who has brought him to that point, that they trust he will serve the King if his brother will not conform to reason. He desires Inge and Ossory to be bound to intercede for him with the King, and not to allow Kildare to be revenged on him for taking the King's part. Many wise men think that O'Konour was abetted by Kildare, and expect much more mischief if Inge does not take substantial order. Advises him to beware whom he trusts. Wishes no one to see this letter, except the Privy Council, unless he sends it to England. Caphydyn, 20 May.
His father has been at Rosse for a week, waiting for Inge's answer about Norfolk's lands, which he has to farm, and now the time is passed, and he can get no tenants for a twelvemonth. He desires Inge to send him an answer speedily.
Hol. Add.: To the Lord Chancellor. Endd.


  • 1. So in MS.
  • 2. Vannes.
  • 3. Dead in 1528?
  • 4. See Patent 11 May 1528 in Grants.
  • 5. Similar in substance to the bull in Rymer's Fœdera, XIV. 240.
  • 6. This at least seems to be the intended meaning. The words are in the original:—"Desiderat pariter quod ubicumque aliquis de Offalya habuerit tributum vocatum Blake rent, in cujus solutione brevi vel longo tempore cessatum fuerat sine contradictione, qualibet etiam temporis mutatione contraria de cætero solvatur."
  • 7. This must be an error. Sunday, 17th May, was doubtless intended.