House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 17 November 1642

Pages 449-450

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, videlicet, 17 Novembris.


Lord Grey, Speaker.

Pass for the Archbp. of Armagh's Trunks, &c. to Oxford.

"Whereas James Archbishop of Armagh hath desired to have Two Trunks and a Chest, containing Books for his own Use, safely conveyed by the Carrier to Oxford; these are to require all and every Person and Persons, whom it may concern, to suffer the Carrier, shewing this Warrant, to pass quietly, without Interruption for the said Two Trunks and Chest; permitting the same Trunks and Chest to be by the said Carrier conveyed to Oxford: For which this shall be a sufficient Warrant."

Earl of Strafford Leave to go to France.

Ordered, That the Earl of Strafford shall have a Pass, quietly to go into France, with Eight Servants and Trunks, with Necessaries; and, in his Absence, his House is to be protected.

Message to the H. C. to sit P. M.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Childe:

To let the House of Commons know, That this House will sit at Three of the Clock this Afternoon, and desire them to sit likewise.


Adjourn till 3a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.


Lord Grey, Speaker.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers return this Answer from the House of Commons:

That the House of Commons will sit this Afternoon, as is desired.

Earl of Portland's Petition for his Liberty.

A Petition of the Earl of Portland was read; desiring, "That he may be restored to his Liberty, having lain Four Months under Restraint."

Message from the H. C. for the Lords to concur in the following Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Sam. Browne; desiring their Lordships Concurrence in these Orders: videlicet,

1. An Order for the better keeping of Watches, or Guards, in London and Westm. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. An Order for putting out certain Persons out of the Commission of Oyer and Terminer, in the County of Lancaster.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees with the House of Commons, in these Two Orders now brought up.

Order for keeping Watches, &c. in London and Westminster.

"Whereas the Lords and Commons in Parliament, for the Preservation of the Peace of the Kingdom, have appointed divers of the Trained Bands, and others, of the Cities of London and Westm. and of the County of Midd. to keep Watches and Guards, both by Day and Night, in several Places within the said Cities and County, which said Watchmen are oftentimes resisted by divers ill-affected Persons, to their great Discouragement (fn. 1) in the said Service: The Lords and Commons, taking the same into their Consideration, being desirous to provide Remedy for the said Mischief, do Declare and Ordain, That, if any Person or Persons shall, by any open Act or Deed, offer any Violence to the said Watchmen or Guards, or shall resist them in the Execution of their Offices, it shall be lawful for the said Watchmen, or Guards, or any of them, to arrest the said Person or Persons, so offering Violence, or making such Resistance, and them to bring before the said Lords and Commons in Parliament, that they may there receive condign Punishment, according to the Greatness of their Offences; and if such Person or Persons, so offering Violence or resisting, shall not submit to the said Arrest, but shall by Force endeavour to rescue himself from the said Watchmen and Guards, it shall be lawful for the said Watchmen and Guards, or any of them, to kill or slay such as shall endeavour to make such Rescues, rather than to suffer them to escape."

Ld. Newburgh to cause Commissions of Oyer and Terminer, and of Array, to be re-called in Lancashire.

"Whereas a Commission of Oyer and Terminer hath been lately directed to some Gentlemen in Lancashire, that are ill affected, and divers great Abuses have been committed, under Pretence thereof, in that County: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament, That Edward Lord Newburgh, Chancellor of the Dutchy of Lancaster, and his Vice-chancellor, shall forthwith not only cause the said Commissions to be re-called, but likewise the Commission of Array also, if it hath passed the Dutchy or County Palatine Seal: And it is further Ordered, That the said Chancellor shall immediately discharge James Earl of Derby, Sir George Middleton Knight and Baronet, Sir John Middleton Knight, Sir Gilbert Hoghton Knight and Baronet, John Atherton, Edward Rawsthorne, William Norris, Henry Ogle, Thomas Prestwicke, and Savile Radcliffe, Esquires, from being further employed as Commissioners for the Peace and Oyer and Terminer within the said County, for that they have been very active in executing the illegal Commission of Array; and he is also required to give an Account unto the said Lords and Commons, of his due Observance of this Order."


Adjourn till 10a cras.


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