House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 14 April 1643

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Veneris, videlicet, 14 die Aprilis.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Mr. Carey's Horses to be restored.

Ordered, That Mr. Carie's Horses, stayed at the Court of Guard at Tyborne, shall be restored to him.

Lady Pagett, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Pagett shall have a Pass, to come from Oxford to London.

Lady Thornborough, & al. a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Thornborough shall have a Pass, with her Mother the Lady Ann Acton, Bridgett Thornborough her Daughter, John Phillpott, John Day, Servants, (fn. 1) a Hackney Coach, and Four Horses, to go to Morton Hilmarsh, in the County of Gloucester, and to return to London again.

Message from the H. C. to re-call the Committees from Oxford;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Strowd:

To let their Lordships know, that they have Resolved to send for their Committee from Oxford, to come away To-morrow; and they desire their Lordships would please to send for their Lordships Committee to come away likewise.

Left to the former Directions.

to expedite the Order about Persons coming from Oxford to London;

2. They desire their Lordships to give Expedition in passing the Order formerly brought, for restraining Persons from coming from Oxford to London, without a Safe Conduct.

and to expedite the Ordinance for seizing L. Capell's Estate.

3. To desire their Lordships to pass the Ordinance for sequestering the Estate of the Lord Capell, for the Lord General's Use.

The Answer returned was:


That, to all the Particulars of this Message, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Orders for Concurrence.

Next, an Order for Payment of Five Hundred Pounds, for Relief of the Fort of Galloway, was read. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

An Order for paying the Arrears upon the Act of Contribution, to the Hands of the Treasurers, to be disposed of by the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

Sir M. Lister, a Pass.

Ordered, That Sir Mathew Lyster, Doctor of Physic to His Majesty, shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, with Two Servants, and return again to London.

Windsor Park to be protected.

Ordered, That the Great Park at Windsor shall be protected by this House, to preserve it from Spoil of the Soldiers.

Conference to be had about the Answer to the King's Message, and for not sending for the Committees from Oxford.

Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons, touching the Message lately received from the King, to put them in Mind to expedite the Answer; and to acquaint them with some Reasons why their Lordships think it not fit to send for their Committee to come away from Oxford on Saturday next.

Message to the H. C. for it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Bennett:

To desire a Conference presently, if it may stand with their Conveniency, touching the King's last Message, and concerning sending for the Committees to come from Oxford To-morrow.

The Messengers return with this Answer:


That the House of Commons will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Heads for the Conference.

The Substance of the Conference to be, "That their Lordships do conceive the Treaty is ended this Day; and therefore leave the Committee to their former Instructions, for coming away with convenient Speed, which their Lordships think sufficient; and to quicken the House of Commons to give a Dispatch, that so the Answer to the King may be speedily sent away."

House adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being (fn. 2) ended, the House was resumed.

Williams, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. John Williams shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford.

An Order was read, for allowing Two Hundred Pounds per Week to the Maintenance of the Garrison at Aylsbury:

Order for 200l. a Week for the Garrison at Ailsbury.

"Whereas the Committee for the County of Bucks did, by virtue of the Ordinance of both Houses of the 29th of November last, raise Monies within that County Monthly, for Pay for the Country Soldiers within the Garrison at Aylsebury, and for making of Fortifications there; but now the said County being taxed, by the late Ordinance of both Houses, at the Weekly Sum of Four Hundred and Twenty-five Pounds, for the Maintenance of the Army raised by the Parliament, the said County is not able to bear both the said Taxes: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Committee shall, out of the Weekly Sum of Four Hundred and Twentyfive Pounds, pay and allow, for the Maintenance of the Country Soldiers in the said Garrison, and for the Finishing and Maintaining of their Works, and other extraordinary Charges incident unto that Garrison, the Weekly Sum of Two Hundred Pounds; for which, nevertheless, the said Committee shall be accountable unto this House, how the said Money is, or shall be, disbursed for the Purposes aforesaid."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in this Order.

Message from the H. C. for a further Conference about an Answer to the King, and about the Committees coming away. Answer.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Jo. Clattworthy:

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, touching the Matter of the late Conference.

The Answer returned was:

That their Lordships will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being (fn. 2) ended, the House was resumed.

Conference reported.

And the Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference; which was, "That the House of Commons doth not think the Directions given to the Committee at Oxon to come away sufficient, because it is but a conditional Direction (fn. 3) , and they apprehend the Houses make them Judges of what is convenient and what not convenient Speed; therefore they desire their Lordships to join with the House of Commons, to give a positive Command to the Committee to come away To-morrow from Oxford.

"Concerning the Draught made (fn. 2) by the Committee, the House of Commons are of Opinion, that, as (fn. 2) it is now drawn, as Instructions to the Committee, it is improper; but think it (fn. 2) fit to make it as a Message to the King, because it came from the King, and not by the Committee, which cannot be done now, in regard of the Shortness of the Time; therefore, the House of Commons will take some further Time to advise of it, and send it to His Majesty."

This House consented not with the House of Commons in commanding the Committees at Oxon to come Home from thence To-morrow.

Message from the H. C. with the Bill for Subscriptions for reducing the Irish Rebels.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Jo. Clattworthy, who brought up a Bill, intituled, An Act for the speedy Payment of Monies subscribed towards the reducing of the Rebels in Ireland, which yet remains unpaid;" which they desire their Lordships to pass with convenient Speed.

Order for Relief of Galway Fort.

"Whereas Captain Hall is now sent, from the Fort of Galloway, in Ireland, to solicit for some speedy Supply of Victual, and Cloaths, and Pay, for the Soldiers there, and for some other necessary Provisions for the Defence of the Place, which is of very great Consequence, and now in Danger to be lost, if not speedily supplied: The Lords and Commons, taking it into Consideration, do Order, That the said Sum of Five Hundred Pounds, of the Contribution-money, formerly appointed by the Parliament, for some poor People of the Province of Connaght, but not yet paid (fn. 4) by the Treasurers for that Purpose, be now issued, for the Relief of the Fort of Gallway, in the same Province, in such a Way as the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland shall direct; and that the Committee appointed for that Purpose do issue out their Warrants accordingly: And the said Lords and Commons do further Order, That some good Ship of War, of those that are designed for the Guard of (fn. 5) the Irish Coasts, be appointed to attend the Defence of that Fort, which is of so great Importance."

Arrears upon the Bill for the Relief of Ireland.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That whatsoever Monies are in Arrear, upon the Act of Loan and Contribution, for Relief of Ireland, passed this Parliament, as the same shall be brought to the Treasurers Hands, be disposed of for that Purpose only, by the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, and their Direction."


House adjourned till 10a cras.



  • 1. Origin. to a.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. Direction is not sufficient.
  • 4. Origin. out of.
  • 5. Deest in Originali.