House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 27 August 1647

Pages 285-286

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 27 Augusti, 1647.


Leave of Absence.

ORDERED, That Mr. Peter Brooke, Mr. Penrose, and Mr. Gewen, Members of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Propositions for Peace.

The House resumed the Consideration of the Alterations made in the Propositions for Peace by the Lords, sent to this House Yesterday: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, that William Earl of Salisbury be put into the Propositions, in the room of the Earl of Essex, to be one of the Conservators of the Peace.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, that these Words, "Edward Lord Herbert," be put out in the Propositions; and, instead thereof, these Words put in, "Edward Earl of Wigorn."

The Question being put, That this House doth adhere to the Names of the Persons, in the first Qualification of the Propositions for Peace, as were sent from this House to the Lords;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir John Hippesley, Tellers for the Noe: 54.
Mr. Bolkeley, With the Noe,
Sir William Strickland, Tellers for the Yea: 66.
Mr. Sydenham, With the Yea,

So the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere, That the Lord Brudenell, and William Shelden of Beely, do stand in the Second Qualification, as they were sent from this House.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere, That Sir Philip Musgrave do stand in the Fourth Qualification, as he was sent from this House.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning the Alterations made by their Lordships, in the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Lisle, Mr. John Gurdon, are appointed Managers of this Conference: And are to desire, that if the Lords concur, that then it may be referred to the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to communicate the said Propositions for Peace to the Scotts Commissioners; that it may be put into a speedy Way, that they may be presented unto the King.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords will give a present Meeting . . a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, upon the Propositions for Peace, presently, in the Painted Chamber.


Mr. Green reports the Amendments to the Declararation. Yesterday read and committed, concerning the regulating and better carrying on the Receipts of the Excise: The which were twice read; and, upon the Question, assented unto: And the Declaration, with these Amendments, upon the Question, passed; and is Ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

It is further Ordered, That the said Declaration, being passed the Lords, be forthwith printed and published; And the Sheriffs of the several and respective Counties are required to publish the said Declaration in every Market-Town in England and Wales, upon the respective Market-Days.

Mr. Greene is appointed to carry this Declaration to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Propositions for Peace.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, That the Lords do agree to the Alterations in the Propositions of Peace, as they were delivered at the Conference; and that the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do communicate the said Propositions to the Commissioners of Scotland.

Ordered, That the Members of this House, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do, this Afternoon, meet, to communicate the Propositions unto the Commissioners of Scotland; and report their Answer at the next Sitting of the House.

Examining Doyley.

Mr. John Corbett reports the State of the Business concerning the Questions propounded by the Committee to Mr. John Doyly; and his Answers thereunto: And that the Committee was of Opinion, that his Answers were neither clear, nor at all satisfactory.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Doyly be enjoined to answer, clearly, to such Questions as have been, or shall be, propounded by the Committee unto him, upon his Case, put in to the House, and referred to the Committee, according to the former Power and Orders made to that Committee.


Mr. Greene brings Answer, that, to the Declaration concerning the Excise, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Cases of Members.

Resolved, &c. That such Members as have put in their Cases according to former Order, and shall, in the Interim, sit in the House, until their Cases be adjudged, upon Judgment of their Cases, if they shall be found guilty, shall receive no Benefit of the Vote, passed 15° Julii, made in Favour of them, that they should incur no other Penalty than being disabled.


Resolved, &c. That the House, from the Rising, shall adjourn itself till Wednesday Morning next, Eight of the Clock.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Colonel Copley, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

A Prisoner discharged.

Ordered, That Captain Hare, committed to the Serjeant's Custody by former Order, be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint.

Irish Protestants.

An Ordinance for the Relief of the distressed Protestants that are come out of Ireland, by a Voluntary Contribution upon the next Days of Publick Thanksgiving, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Knightly is appointed to carry it to the Lords To-morrow Morning.