Veneris, 2 die Julii; Anno 1° Willielmi IV ti Regis, 1830.
PRAYERS.
Members take Oaths.
Several other Members present took the Oaths, and
subscribed the Oath of Abjuration, according to the
Laws made for those purposes.
Buckle's Estate Bill, passed, with Amendments.
An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act
to enable John Buckle, Esquire, or other Committee of the
Estate of William Buckle, a Lunatic, for and in the name
and on behalf of the said William Buckle, to consent to
the exercise of a Power of Sale over Estates settled on the
said William Buckle for his life, and which Power is exercisable with the consent of the said William Buckle, was
read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Curteis do carry the Bill to the
Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to
the same, with some Amendments; to which Amendments
this House doth desire the concurrence of their Lordships.
Surrey Coal Meters Bill, committed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second
reading of the Bill to continue an Act passed in the ninth
year of His present Majesty's reign, to enable His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Surrey to
nominate and appoint two or more Persons to act as principal Land Coal Meters within and for the several Places
therein mentioned, be now read; and the same being read:
-The Bill was read a second time; and committed to
Mr. Charles Pallmer, &c.: And they are to meet this
Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have leave to
sit and proceed, and to report To-morrow.
Meltham Inclosure Bill, committed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second
reading of the Bill to amend an Act of his late Majesty,
intituled, An Act for inclosing Lands in the Manor of
Meltham, in the Parish of Almondbury, in the West Riding
of the County of York, be now read; and the same being
read:-The Bill was read a second time; and committed
to Sir Robert Wilson, &c.: And they are to meet this
Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have leave to
sit and proceed, and to report To-morrow.
Rye Harbour Bill, passed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the third reading of the ingrossed Bill to amend an Act passed in the 41st
year of his late Majesty King George the Third, intituled,
"An Act for more effectually improving and maintaining
the old Harbour of Rye, in the County of Sussex," and
to appoint new Commissioners, and to enable the Commissioners to raise additional Funds on the Tolls by way
of Mortgage or otherwise, be now read; and the same
being read:-The Bill was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Sir George Cockburn do carry the Bill
to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Port Crommelin Harbour Bill, passed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the third
reading of the ingrossed Bill for establishing and maintaining the Harbour of Port Crommelin, in the Bay of
Cushenden, in the County of Antrim, be now read; and the
same being read:-The Bill was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Lord Viscount Castlereagh do carry the
Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Boydell's Divorce Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to
dissolve the Marriage of Samuel Boydell with Jane Boydell
Boydell his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again,
and for other purposes, was read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Curteis do carry the Bill to the
Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed
to the same, without any Amendment.
Petition respecting Payment of Parochial Rates by Greenwich Hospital.
A Petition of the Vicar, Churchwardens, Overseers and
Governors and Directors of the Poor of Greenwich, and
other Parishioners and Inhabitant Householders of the by
said parish, was presented, and read; setting forth, That
the parish of Greenwich has for many years afforded pecuniary relief to, and maintained a great number of, the
wives and families of the pensioners of the Royal Hospital, instituted for the reception of disabled seamen at
Greenwich, and that the expense of relieving the necessities of such poor persons has been a heavy and increasing
burthen upon the poor rates of the said parish; that, in
the year 1807, a conference took place between the Board
of Directors of the Royal Hospital and the Parish Officers upon this subject, and a correct expenditure account
having then been submitted by the said officers, satisfactorily proving that the Royal Hospital occasioned an expense to the parish of one-seventh of the amount actually produced by the rates, an agreement was thereupon
entered into (founded upon the said account), whereby
the Commissioners and Governors of the Royal Hospital
agreed to contribute a sum equal to one-seventh of the
net annual assessment collected from the remainder of the
parish of Greenwich, on account of the poor and highways, towards the maintenance and relief of the families
of the pensioners and nurses requiring parochial aid, and
the repair of the highways, such composition commencing
from the 25th day of March 1807, and to continue until
further order; that the composition so agreed upon was
paid and continued by the Royal Hospital without intermission until the end of the year 1828; but on the 31st
of January 1829, the Board of Directors of that establishment gave notice to the parish officers, that the assessments of the hospital were required to be made in future
in the legal form, and according to its strict legal liability, and adding, that the the Board would, from that
time, recognize no other mode of assessment; that, in the
year 1823, an Act of Parliament was obtained for lighting and watching the parish of Greenwich; and, on the
8th of May 1824, the Board of Directors of the Royal
Hospital agreed to pay one-seventh of the lighting and
watching rate, upon the same conditions as they had agreed
to pay one-seventh of the poor and highway rates; but
the composition upon all the rates being now discontinued, the parish is minus a large sum of money upon the
lighting and watching account for the year ending Ladyday 1830; that as the Petitioners are informed and believe that the grievance complained of cannot be remedied
without the aid and authority of Parliament, the Petitioners pray that the House will be graciously pleased
to take all the circumstances above represented into consideration, and afford such relief, either by a legislative
enactment, or by such other ways and means as to the
House shall seem meet.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Duke of Bedford's Estate Bill, passed, with an Amendment.
An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for
prohibiting Burying and Funeral Service in a Chapel of
Ease intended to be built for the Parish of Saint George
Bloomsbury, in the County of Middlesex, was read the
third time.
Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendment, do pass.
Ordered, That Sir Robert Wilson do carry the Bill to
the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath
agreed to the same, with an Amendment; to which
Amendment this House doth desire the concurrence of
their Lordships.
Power to a Committee.
Ordered, That the Committee on the Bill to prevent the
spreading of Canine Madness, have Power to report the
Minutes of the Evidence taken before them to the House.
Petitions against Assimilation of Duties in Ireland.
A Petition of the Sovereign, Recorder, Burgesses, Freemen, Freeholders, and other Inhabitants of the town of
Clonakilty, in the county of Cork;-and, of Inhabitants
of the parish of Moycullen, in the county of Galway,-
were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have heard of the intended measures of Taxation
relative to Ireland with alarm and regret; that the Petitioners deem any additional burthens upon that country in
its present state to be ill timed, unjust, oppressive to the
subject, and ill calculated to augment the revenue; and
praying, That the House will give the subject a mature
consideration, and not allow the proposed project to pass
into a law.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table.
Petitions against Duties on Stamps, &c. (Ireland.)
A Petition of Inhabitants of the village of Innishannon;
-and, of the Gentry, Clergy and Freeholders of the
county of Clare,-were presented, and read; setting
forth, That the Petitioners, in common with their fellowcountrymen, beg to express their alarm at the determination of His Majesty's Ministers to assimilate, alter or add
to the Taxation on Stamps, Corn Spirits, and Tobacco
in Ireland, which the Petitioners are satisfied would prove
greatly injurious to its agricultural and general prosperity; and praying the House to prevent such increase
of Taxation.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table; and that the last be printed.
Labourers Wages Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow, resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill
to amend and render more effectual the Provisions of
divers Acts for securing to certain Artificers, Workmen
and Labourers, in such Acts mentioned, the due Payment
of their Wages in Money.
Report from Committee on Manufacturing Employment. No. 590.
Mr. Slaney reported from the Select Committee appointed to consider the means of lessening the evils arising
from the fluctuation of Employment in Manufacturing
Districts, and to report their observations thereupon to the
House; That they had considered the matters referred
to them, and had directed him to make a Report thereof
to the House; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That the Report do lie upon the Table; and
be printed.
Petition respecting Poor Rates.
A Petition of James Hantler, the younger, of the parish
of Saint Luke, Chelsea, was presented, and read; setting
forth, That the Petitioner, having been charged with the
payment of Poor Rates, has observed that they have of late
increased to a most alarming extent, and are still increasing, which the Petitioner believes is occasioned by a diminished demand for labour, as appears from the unusual
number of able-bodied men who have for some time past
been receiving parochial relief, and a still greater number
whom the Petitioner continually observes, who are, without
avail, seeking employment; and he is persuaded that the
evils, arising from the present diminished demand for labour, and consequent increase of Poor Rates in the parish
wherein he resides, as well as in most others near the
metropolis, are greatly occasioned by the depressed state
of the labouring classes in the agricultural parts of the
country, who, being deprived of those comforts they formerly
enjoyed at home, are too often induced, by the delusive
hope of improving their condition, to remove to the vicinity of the metropolis, by which means the accession of
labourers in the parish wherein the Petitioner resides, and
in others adjoining thereto, is far beyond the means which
at present exist, or can ever be reasonably expected to
exist, for affording them employment, which the Petitioner believes is the principal cause of the increase of
Poor Rates of which he complains; submitting a plan for
ameliorating the condition of the labouring classes in the
agricultural districts; and praying the House to take the
same into their consideration.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition complaining of Establishment of a Penny Post at Broadstairs.
A Petition of Inhabitants of Broadstairs, in the Isle of
Thanet, was presented, and read; complaining of the
establishment of a Penny Post at that place, and of the
late regulations of the Post Office; stating the particulars
of their case; and praying for such relief as the House
may think just and right to afford them, and entreating
the House to place the General Post Office under such
control as may prevent acts of oppression and partiality.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Petitions complaining of the hours of Labour in Cotton Factories.
A Petition of Operative Cotton Spinners and others employed in the cotton and silk factories in Congleton;-of Inhabitants of Ashton-under-Lyne, Stayley Bridge, and Mossley, and also of Dukenfield, Newton and Hyde;-and, of
Dressers and Power-Loom Weavers employed in the Cotton
Manufactories of Stockport,-were presented, and read;
setting forth, That the Petitioners have seen with regret
the very injurious effects of protracted labour in Cotton
Factories in a heated and contaminated atmosphere, where
the pure air can seldom be permitted to enter; but pernicious to health as is confinement in Cotton Factories, even
in the day time, and under the most favourable circumstances, employment in such places in the night is infinitely
more injurious to both the health and morals of the persons so employed; that the House have already interfered,
by legislative enactments, to protect persons of tender
years from being worked more than twelve hours in such
Cotton Mills in the day, but there is no law to prohibit
the destructive practice of working in the night; that the
Petitioners are of opinion, that the use of machinery, if
rightly directed, is calculated to increase the comforts and
conveniences of mankind, but its unrestricted employment, instead of being a benefit, has hitherto tended to the
injury of thousands, yea, tens of thousands, of the productive classes; that the Petitioners are aware, that to restrict
the employment of machinery without due caution, would
interfere with the trade and prosperity of this Kingdom,
yet they humbly submit to the House, that no such injury
would accrue from a law prohibiting the working of steamengines and water-wheels more than ten hours and a half
on any one day, and eight hours and a half on Saturdays;
and praying the House to pass a law entirely prohibiting
the working of any steam-engines and water-wheels more
than ten hours and a half on any one day, and eight hours
and a half on Saturdays.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table; and to be printed.
Petition for reduction of Stamp Duty on Newspapers and Advertisements.
A Petition of Letter-press Printers of the cities of
London and Westminster, was presented, and read; setting forth, That with respect and veneration the Petitioners venture to address the House, and declare, that for
some years past considerable distress, from want of employment, has existed amongst the Letter-press Printers of
the metropolis, arising in a great degree, as they humbly
conceive, from the Duty upon Paper, and the high price
of the Stamp required for Newspapers; that the heavy
Duties imposed on Newspapers have very materially contributed to their annihilation, will, the Petitioners humbly
conceive, be manifest to the House, when they state, that
four daily papers have ceased to exist within the last four
years, that several weekly ones have been relinquished,
and that many which still exist are in a very tottering
condition; that the Petitioners are convinced that much
loss to the Government is occasioned by the inconvenience
and delay which attend the present circumscribed and
expensive channel of advertisement, and that were encouragement given to capitalists by the reduction of the
Stamp on Newspapers and the Duty on Advertisements,
greater facilities would be afforded to advertisers, and the
product to the revenue arising from the Advertisement
Duty would be considerably increased; and praying the
House to lower the Duty on Paper, to reduce the Stamp
on Newspapers to two-pence, and the Duty on Advertisements to two shillings, by which measures the Duty would
be nearly equalized throughout the United Kingdom, much
benefit rendered to the distressed Petitioners, and considerable profit arise to His Majesty's revenue.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
The Lords have agreed to Glasgow and Kilmarnock Road Bill, with Amendments.
A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Cox and Mr. Stephen:
Mr. Speaker,
The Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act
for amending and continuing an Act for repairing Roads
in the County of Renfrew, and for altering the Line of
Road between Glasgow and Kilmarnock, in the said
County, with some Amendments; to which Amendments
the Lords desire the concurrence of this House:-And
then the Messengers withdrew.
Petition respecting Pawnbrokers (Ireland.)
A Petition of Thomas Flanagan, was presented, and
read; setting forth, That the artizans and other industrious and labouring classes in the commercial towns of
Ireland are very poor, and are consequently oftentimes
obliged to borrow money upon deposits from Pawnbrokers
at a heavy and ruinous interest, and much more so than
is now chargeable in England; that it would relieve and
accommodate the distressed portion of the inhabitants of
the various towns in Ireland to repeal the Irish Pawnbrokers' Acts, and to extend to that country the English
Pawnbrokers' Laws, which would promote the interest
of the country, and be conducive to the welfare of the
people; and praying the House to take the premises into
consideration, and to extend the Pawnbrokers' Laws in
England to Ireland.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the
Table.
Petition for abolishing the Court of Conscience (Dublin.)
A Petition of Thomas Flanagan, was presented, and
read; praying the House to abolish the Court of Conscience in Dublin.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the
Table.
Petition complaining of Distress, &c.(Ireland.)
A Petition of Landholders of the united parishes of
Kilmore, Kilturk, Tomhagard and Molrancan, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, in
common with honest men of every grade, deeply deplore
the appalling distress with which the country is at present
pervaded; the Petitioners beg to state, that they conceive
it is to the profuse and lavish expenditure of the public
money, with its necessary accompaniment, the enormous
weight of taxation, coupled with that most ruinous of all
imposts, the present Tithe system, that the distress is
mainly, if not wholly, attributable; and praying the
House to adopt such measures respecting the church
establishment as may lead to the total and final abolition
of the present Tithe system.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Petition for inquiry into the Grand Jury Laws (Ireland.)
A Petition of Gentry and Inhabitants of the county of
Clare, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the
Petitioners approach the House with feelings of disappointment at the delayed reformation of the Grand Jury
Laws of Ireland; they had hoped the imperfect character
of those laws, and the recorded opinions of the country,
would before now have secured the effective consideration of the Legislature; that the Petitioners recognize the
justice of that leading principle of the Grand Jury Laws
which places within the discretion of the gentry a final
control over the amount and allocation of county expenditure; yet they cannot but deplore that such expenditure, under the present system, is too often perverted to
purposes of personal interest and of private fraud, to the
great detriment of the public welfare, and necessarily reflecting on the characters of the gentry, who are held
responsible in public opinion for the injurious influence
of the laws they are called on to administer; the evils of
the Grand Jury system are flagrant and oppressive, the
remedies suggested are various, and deserving the deliberate consideration of the Legislature, aided by the experience of those acquainted with the character of the
country, the peculiar habits of the people, and the operation of those laws of which the Petitioners complain;
and praying the immediate attention of the House to the
present state of the Grand Jury Laws of Ireland.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Petition for repeal of Clauses in Apothecaries Act (Ireland.)
A Petition of Licentiate Apothecaries of Ennis, was
presented, and read; setting forth, That, in the year 1791,
the Parliament was most graciously pleased to pass an
Act to protect the lives of His Majesty's subjects from the
ignorance and unskilfulness of persons pretending to the
art and mystery of an Apothecary, and for the better regulation of that profession in Ireland, by which Act a
corporation was formed in the city of Dublin, by the name
of the Governor and Company of the Apothecaries' Hall;
that the Petitioners conceive said Governor and Company
to be unworthy of the confidence of the Legislature, and
of having the regulation of the Profession intrusted to
their hands, they having perverted the Act of Parliament
under which they derived their powers into an instrument
of venality and corruption, said Governor and Company
having, on the receipt of a sum of 20£. granted licenses to
persons to practise as Apothecaries whose previous education was deficient, and who never submitted to a classical
examination, or served a seven-years' apprenticeship to a
qualified master, as required by the Act of Parliament, while
at the same time they rigidly enforced the laws against
those who would not indulge their avarice; the Petitioners
beg to state, that abuses are practised in that borough, by
unqualified persons professing to practise the business of
an Apothecary, to the imminent danger of the lives of
His Majesty's subjects; applications were made to the
Governor and Company of Apothecaries' Hall, complaining of these abuses, to which they have shown the greatest
apathy and indifference, and have not, as the Petitioners
verily believe, taken any measures to correct them; Petitioners beg to observe, that many and serious evils have
resulted from the practice of allowing grocers, and other
dealers, to sell medicines, the quality, dose and operation
of which they are entirely ignorant of; the Petitioners
beg further to state, that they do not desire to interfere
with the pecuniary concerns of Apothecaries' Hall, but
humbly hope that the House will be pleased, before granting additional powers to said Corporation, to institute an
inquiry into the state of the Profession in Ireland, and
that in future the Court of Examiners be elected by the
general body of Licentiate Apothecaries throughout the
Kingdom, that the system of education be enlarged, and,
for more effectually promoting the interests of science,
that an institution be formed in the city of Dublin, to be
called The Royal Irish College of Pharmacy, to which the
regulative powers of Apothecaries' Hall be transferred;
the Petitioners humbly beg, that they shall no longer be
subject to the misrule of a trading Corporation, consisting
of but twenty-nine practising Apothecaries, in whose election they have no voice, and whose interests are entirely
opposed to the Petitioners'.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Return to be made forthwith.
The House was moved, That the Order made upon the
19th day of March last, That there be laid before this
House, an Account of the several Fees or Sums of Money
received by the Pursebearer to the Lord Chancellor in
each year, during the last three years, and how many
public Seals, and how many private Seals, there have
been in each year, during such period, and how much of
such fees has arisen from public Seals, and how much
from private Seals, and how many private Seals there
have been on each of the days of public Seals, and how
much of the fees or sums so received has been retained
by the Pursebearer for his own use and benefit, and how
much of the said fees or sums has been paid or applied by
the Pursebearer, to or for the use or benefit of any other
person or persons, and whom, by name, might be read;
and the same being read;
Ordered, That a Return to the said Order be laid before
this House forthwith.
Petition in favour of Northern Roads Bill.
A Petition of Inhabitants of the city of York, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the improvement of the Roads from London to Edinburgh, and
from London to Portpatrick; and for the further improvement of the Roads from London to Holyhead, and from
London to Liverpool; and praying, That the same may
pass into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Petition against Surrey Coal Meters Bill.
A Petition of Thomas Bradfield, was presented, and read;
taking notice of the Bill to continue an Act passed in the
ninth year of His present Majesty's reign, to enable His
Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Surrey
to nominate and appoint two or more Persons to act as
principal Land Coal Meters within and for the several
Places therein mentioned; and praying, That the House
will not allow the further progress of the said Bill, at
least until the Report of the Select Committee on the
Coal Trade be made known to the House.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Papers relating to Slave Trade, presented.
Mr. Secretary Sir Robert Peel presented to the House,
pursuant to their Address to His Majesty,-Papers relating to the Slave Trade, 1829: Class (A.), Correspondence
with the British Commissioners: Class (B.), Correspondence with Foreign Powers.
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the Table.
Consideration of Amendments to Fees Abolition Bill, put off.
Ordered, That the Amendments made by the Lords
to the Bill, intituled, An Act to abolish all Fees and
Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions and Patents consequent on the demise of the Crown, be now taken into
consideration:-The House accordingly proceeded to take
the said Amendments into consideration; and the same
were read; and are as followeth;
Pr. 1. 1. 1. Leave out from "Whereas" to "Be" in
press 2, line 11, and insert "it is expedient that such
persons who shall at the demise of His present Majesty
(whom God long preserve), or of any of His Successors,
possess or enjoy any office, employment, pension, rank
or precedence granted during the pleasure of the Crown,
and who shall be continued in the possession or enjoyment thereof, should be exempted, as hereinafter
provided, from the payment of Fees and Stamp Duties
in respect of their re-appointment to any such office, or
the re-grant of any such pension, rank or precedence."
Pr. 2. 1. 17. Leave out from "That" to the end of
the Bill, and insert "every person who at the demise of
His present Majesty (whom God long preserve), or of
any of His Successors, shall possess or enjoy any office,
employment, pension, rank or precedence granted during the pleasure of the Crown, by any letters patent,
commission, warrant or other instrument, and shall be
continued in the enjoyment of and be re-appointed to
such office or employment, or obtain a re-grant of
such pension, rank or precedence, shall be exempted,
except as hereinafter provided, from paying to any of
His Majesty's Successors, or to any other person or
persons whomsoever, any Fee or Stamp Duty, in respect
of such re-appointment or re-grant;" and also insert
Clauses (A.), (B.), and (C.)
Clause (A.) "And whereas it is just and reasonable
that the persons whose right and duty it is or may be,
by virtue of their respective offices, to prepare, make
out, settle and attend to the passing of the usual commissions, letters patent, warrants or other instruments
upon such re-appointments and re-grants as aforesaid,
should receive a proper and adequate remuneration for
the performance of such duty; Be it Enacted, That
the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury
for the time being, shall, in all such cases, fix and determine the amount of such remuneration; and that
such remuneration shall be paid by the persons who
would have been chargeable if this Act had not passed,
with the Fees payable upon such re-appointments or
re-grants as aforesaid.
Clause (B.) "Provided always, and be it further
Enacted, That nothing herein contained shall extend
to deprive any person, who at the time of passing this
Act shall or may be entitled to any estate of freehold in
his office, of any Fees or Emoluments to which he would
have been by law entitled if this Act had not passed;
but that every such person shall be entitled to claim,
and shall receive such Fees and Emoluments, and no
other, upon every such re-appointment and re-grant,
as if this Act had not passed; any thing herein contained to the contrary notwithstanding.
Clause (C.) "And be it further Enacted by the
authority aforesaid, That all Commissions heretofore
granted or hereafter to be granted for the taking of
Affidavits to be made use of and read in any court, or
for the taking recognizances of bail, shall, notwithstanding any demise of the Crown, remain and continue in
force during the pleasure of any Successor of the Sovereign, by whom the same Commissions may have
been or may hereafter be granted, until the same shall
be revoked or otherwise avoided."
In the Title of the Bill, line 1. Leave out "all" and
insert "certain."
Ordered, That the said Amendments be taken into
further consideration upon this day six months.
Fees and Stamp Duties Bill, ordered.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to
abolish all Fees and Stamp Duties chargeable on the
renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions and Patents consequent on the demise of the Crown:
And that Mr. Hume and Mr. Warburton do prepare, and
bring it in.
Committee of Supply.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed,
That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further
of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read;
An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the words "That the" to the end
of the Question, in order to add the words "Sugars, the
produce of the Four-and-Half per cent. Duty levied in
the Islands of Barbadoes, Antigua, Montserrat, Nevis,
Tortola, and Saint Christopher, have for a great number
of years been sold in the like manner as all Duty-paying Sugars from the British Plantations are usually
sold in this country (namely, at the long price), in
which is included the Duty of Customs payable on
Sugar; and that there has been no difference in this
mode of sale since the date of the Treasury Minute of
the 15th April 1828.
That the said Sugars have been uniformly entitled
to the Drawback or Bounty payable by Law on Dutypaid Sugars, and that there has been no difference in
this respect since the date aforesaid:
"That the Drawback or Bounty on any such Sugars
exported since the date aforesaid has been paid out of
the Revenue of the Customs, into which no Duty has
been paid on account of such Sugars:
"That the net proceeds of all Monies received on
account of His Majesty's Revenue of Customs ought
by law to be paid into His Majesty's Exchequer, to
the account of the Consolidated Fund:
"That the Duties virtually levied on the purchasers
of the said Sugars, since the 25th March 1828, have
not been paid into His Majesty's Revenue of Customs,
and have been appropriated without the cognizance or
consent of Parliament:
"That this House, having called for an Account of
the Appropriation of the net proceeds of the Four-andHalf per cent. Duty, for the year ending the 5th January 1830, an Account was furnished, by which it
appears, that the Pensions paid by the Husband in that
year amounted to £.20,890. 1s. 4d.; that the Salaries
and other Charges amounted to £.1,502. 5s. 11d.;
that the Salaries and Pensions paid at the Exchequer
amounted to £.20,412. 16s. 1d.; making a total of
£.42,805. 3s. 4d.; and it further appears, that the net
proceeds of the said Duties for the same year were
£.61,059. 16s. 2d., leaving a balance of £.18,254.
12s. 10d. not accounted for by the said Return:
"That the net proceeds of the said Duties for the year
ending 5th January 1829 were £.66,992. 15s. 1d.:
"That no part of the Surplus arising from the net
proceeds of the said Duties for the years ending 5th
January 1829 and 1830, after paying the Pensions,
Salaries, and Charges thereupon for the said years respectively, has been appropriated to the payment of the
Ecclesiastical Establishments in the West Indies; and
that no account has been rendered to Parliament of the
manner in which such Surplus has been applied:
"That to exempt from Duty any article of merchandize imported for the Crown, but not intended for the
use of the Sovereign, is an extension of the King's
Prerogative of dangerous example, and that to levy
the Parliamentary Duties payable upon such article
when sold for home consumption, and to appropriate
the amount thereof without the knowledge and consent
of Parliament, is an unconstitutional violation of the
undoubted privileges of this House," instead thereof.
And the Question being proposed, That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question:-The
said proposed Amendment was, with leave of the House,
withdrawn.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to
consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty,
be now read; and the same being read;
King's Message.
Ordered, That so much of His Majesty's most gracious
Message to this House, of Tuesday last, as recommends
to the House to make such temporary provision as may
be requisite for the conduct of the Public Service in the
interval that must elapse between the close of the present
Session and the assembling of a new Parliament, be referred to the Committee.
Estimates, &c. referred: Army Extraordinaries.
Ordered, That the Account of the Extraordinary Expenses of the Army incurred and paid from 25th December
1828 to 24th December 1829, both inclusive; and an
Estimate of the amount required to be granted for the
year 1830, which were presented to the House upon the
9th day of March last, be referred to the Committee.
Commissariat.
Ordered, That the Estimate of the Sums required for the
Supply of Bread, Meat and Forage, Coals, Candles and
Straw, for the Troops in Great Britain and Ireland, and
for Coals, Candles, &c. for the Troops at certain Stations;
also, for the Pay of the Commissariat Department, for
the year 1830:-and also, the Abstracts of the Accounts
of the several Commissaries upon the Stations therein
mentioned, for the year ended 25th December 1828,
which were presented to the House upon the 9th day of
March last, be referred to the Committee.
Report of Militia Estimates.
And a Motion being made, That the Report which,
upon the 8th day of June last, was made from the Select
Committee appointed to prepare Estimates of the charge of
the Disembodied Militia of Great Britain and Ireland,
for the year 1830, be referred to the Committee;
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, by His Majesty's
command, acquainted the House, That His Majesty, having been informed of the subject-matter of this Motion,
recommends it to the consideration of the House.
Ordered, That the said Report be referred to the Committee.
Then the House resolved itself into the Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that
a sum, not exceeding Two hundred thousand pounds, be
granted to His Majesty, towards satisfying such Annuities,
Pensions or other payments, as would have been payable
out of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Ireland, or out of the Civil List, in
case the demise of his late Majesty had not taken place
before the 10th day of October 1830.
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that
a sum, not exceeding One million one hundred and
twenty-six thousand five hundred and fifty-four pounds
eighteen shillings and a halfpenny, be granted to His
Majesty, for or towards defraying the Charges of Army
Extraordinaries, Commissariat, Rideau Canal, Civil Contingencies, Repairs and Improvements at Windsor Castle,
and of Miscellaneous Services in Ireland, being the sum
required for the above-mentioned Services, for nine months
of the year 1830.
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that
a sum, not exceeding Two hundred and seventy thousand
six hundred and ninety pounds and fourteen shillings, be
granted to His Majesty, for defraying the Charge of the
Disembodied Militia of Great Britain and Ireland, and
for the Out Pensions of the regular Militia of Great Britain, and Reduced Allowances and Out Pensions, for the
Yeomanry, for the year 1830.
Resolutions to be reported.
And the House having continued to sit till after
twelve of the clock on Saturday morning;
Sabbati, 3° die Julii, 1830:
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander
Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come
to several Resolutions, which they had directed him to
report to the House.
Ordered, That the Report be received this day.
Sir Alexander Grant also acquainted the House, That
he was directed by the Committee to move, That they
may have leave to sit again.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next,
again resolve itself into the said Committee.
Committee of Ways and Means.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to
consider further of Ways and Means for raising the
Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the
same being read:-The House resolved itself into the
Committee.
(In the Committee.)
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that
a further sum, not exceeding One million five hundred
thousand pounds, be granted to His Majesty, out of the
Surplus of the Consolidated Fund of Great Britain and
Ireland.
Resolution to be reported.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander
Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come
to a Resolution, which they had directed him to report
to the House.
Ordered, That the Report be received this day.
Sir Alexander Grant also acquainted the House, That
he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may
have leave to sit again.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next,
again resolve itself into the said Committee.
Committee on Administration of Justice Bill.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in England and Wales, be now read; and
the same being read;
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair;
An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the word "That" to the end of
the Question, in order to add the words "this House
will, upon this day three months, resolve itself into the
said Committee" instead thereof.
And the Question being put, That the words proposed
to be left out stand part of the Question; it was resolved
in the Affirmative.
Then the main Question being proposed, That Mr.
Speaker do now leave the Chair;
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That
this House do now adjourn; it passed in the Negative.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair:-
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee;
and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the
Committee, That they had made a progress in the Bill;
and that he was directed by the Committee to move, That
they may have leave to sit again.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next,
again resolve itself into the said Committee.
Debate on Standing Orders respecting Subscription List, resumed.
The House, according to Order, resumed the adjourned
Debate upon the Motion made upon the 18th day of May
last, That every Subscription List required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office of this House do contain
the Christian and Surnames, and places of abode, together with a description of the quality or calling of the
Subscribers to the work, and the Sums by them respectively subscribed.
And the Question being put;
Standing Orders made.
Resolved, That every Subscription List required to be
deposited in the Private Bill Office of this House, do contain the Christian and Surnames, and places of abode,
together with a description of the quality or calling of the
Subscribers to the work, and the Sums by them respectively subscribed.
Ordered, That the said Resolution be made a Standing
Order of this House.
The House, according to Order, resumed the adjourned
Debate upon the Motion made upon the 18th day of May
last, That no Bill in respect of which a Subscription List
is required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office (except Turnpike Road Bills), be read a second time, unless
one-half of the Sum required for the probable expense of
the work shall have been subscribed by persons under a
Contract, binding themselves, their Heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assigns for the payment of the Money
so subscribed, and that such Contract be deposited in the
Private Bill Office before the second reading of any such
Bill, and be produced before the Committee on the Bill,
if required.
And the Question being again proposed;
An Amendment was made thereunto, by leaving out the
words "in respect of which a Subscription List is required
to be deposited in the Private Bill Office (except Turnpike Road Bills)" and inserting the words "for making
or extending any Cut, Canal or Aqueduct for the purpose of Navigation, or for making or extending any
Ways or Roads, commonly called Railways or Tramroads" instead thereof.
Then the main Question, so amended, being put;
Resolved, That no Bill for making or extending any
Cut, Canal, or Aqueduct for the purpose of Navigation,
or for making or extending any Ways or Roads, commonly called Railways or Tram Roads, be read a second
time, unless one-half of the Sum required for the probable
expense of the work shall have been subscribed by persons
under a Contract binding themselves, their Heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assigns, for the payment of
the Money so subscribed, and that such Contract be deposited in the Private Bill Office before the second reading of any such Bill, and be produced before the Committee on the Bill, if required.
Ordered, That the said Resolution be made a Standing Order of this House.
Libel Law Amendment Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon
the Bill to repeal so much of an Act of the sixtieth year
of his late Majesty King George the Third, for the more
effectual prevention and punishment of blasphemous and
seditious Libels, as relates to the sentence of Banishment
for the second Offence, and to provide some further remedy against the abuse of publishing Libels, be now read;
and the same being read;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Usury Laws Bill, deferred.
The Order of the day being read, for the third reading of the ingrossed Bill to alter several Acts relating
to Contracts for the Loan of Money at Interest;
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time upon Monday next.
Parochial Registers (Scotland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second
reading of the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An
Act for the better regulation of Parochial Registers in
Scotland, be now read; and the same being read;
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon
Monday next.
Registrar at Madras Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon
the Bill for the Relief of the Representatives of Persons
who have died intestate in the Presidency of Madras in
the East Indies, and for the Relief of the Suitors of the
Supreme Court of Judicature at Madras aforesaid, be
now read; and the same being read;
Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.
Canada (Civil Government) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House, on the Bill to amend an Act passed in the
14th year of his late Majesty King George the Third, for
establishing a Fund towards further defraying the Charges
of the Administration of Justice, and support of the Civil
Government, within the Provinces of Quebec, in America,
be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
Stage Coach Proprietors Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House, on the Bill for the more effectual protection
of Mail Contractors and Stage Coach Proprietors against
Losses, by the undue concealment of the value of Parcels
and Packages delivered to them for Conveyance or Custody,
be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.
County Rates (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to regulate the Applotment of County Rates and Cesses in Ireland in certain cases, be read the third time this day.
Insolvent Debtors (Ireland) Bill, reported.
Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee of
the whole House, on the Bill to continue, for a time to
be limited, the Acts for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors
in Ireland, the Amendments which they had made to the
Bill; and the Amendments were read, and agreed to by
the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed; and read the third time this day.
Witnesses (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to
explain and amend an Act of the fifty-fifth year of King
George the Third, for the Payment of Costs and Charges
to Prosecutors and Witnesses in cases of Felony in Ireland.
Diocesan Schools (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Bill to amend an Act of the fiftythird year of King George the Third, for the appointment
of Commissioners for the regulation of the several Endowed Schools of public and private foundation in Ireland, be read the third time this day.
Army Pensions Bill, reported.
Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee of
the whole House, on the Bill to make further regulations
with respect to Army Pensions, the Amendments which
they had made to the Bill; and the Amendments were
read, and agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed; and read the third time this day.
Arms (Ireland) Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House, on the Bill to regulate the Importation of
Arms, Gunpowder and Ammunition into Ireland, and the
making, selling and keeping of Arms, be taken into further consideration this day.
Report Supply (30 June), deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House of Wednesday last, to whom it was referred
to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty,
be received upon Monday next.
Committee on Beer and Cider Duties Acts.
Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider
of the Acts 12 Car. 2, c. 23, a Grant of certain Impositions upon Beer, Ale and other Liquors, for the increase of his Majesty's Revenue during his Life; 12 Car. 2,
c. 24, for taking away the Court of Wards and Liveries,
and Tenures in capite, and by Knights' Service and Purveyance, and for settling a Revenue upon his Majesty in
lieu thereof; 5 & 6 Anne, c. 2 & 4, for continuing the
Duties upon Malt, Mum, Cider and Perry; and, 6 Geo. 4,
c. 37, to provide for the future assimilation of the Duties
of Excise upon Sweets or Made Wines, upon Mead and
Metheglin, upon Vinegar and upon Cider and Perry, in
Great Britain and Ireland, and to continue the Duty of
Excise on Sweets or Made Wines in Great Britain.
Accounts, referred;
Ordered, That the Accounts, showing the amount of
the King's Hereditary Duties of Excise on Beer and Cider,
from 5th January 1820 to 5th January 1830, which were
presented to the House upon Wednesday last, be referred
to the Committee.
Then the House resolved itself into the Committee;
and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed
the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the
Committee, That they had come to several Resolutions,
which they had directed him to report to the House.
Ordered, That the Report be now received.
reported.
Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee the Resolutions which they had directed him to
report to the House, and the same were read; and are as
followeth;
1. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee,
that the Duties of Excise on Beer and Ale brewed in
Great Britain shall cease and determine, except the
Hereditary Duties of Excise on Beer and Ale, and that
the payment and collection of the said Hereditary Duties
shall, during the life of His present Majesty, be suspended.
2. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee,
that there shall be allowed and paid an Excise Drawback
of Five shillings on the Exportation to Foreign Parts of
every thirty-six gallons of Beer or Ale, in the brewing
whereof not less than two bushels of Malt shall have
been used.
3. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee,
that the Duties of Excise on Cider made in the United
Kingdom, shall cease and determine, except the Hereditary Duties of Excise on Cider, and that the payment
and collection of the said Hereditary Duties shall, during
the life of His present Majesty, be suspended.
4. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee,
that, in lieu of the said Hereditary Duties of Excise on
Ale and Beer and Cider, so suspended, there shall be set
apart and paid unto His Majesty, during His life, the
yearly sum of Three hundred and forty-eight thousand
pounds, out of the Revenues of Excise arising in England,
and the yearly sum of Six thousand and five hundred
pounds out of the Revenue of Excise arising in Scotland,
which sums appear to have been the annual produce of
the said Hereditary Duties in England and Scotland respectively, upon an average of ten years, ending 5th January 1830.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, by His Majesty's
command, acquainted the House, That His Majesty is
willing and consents to accept of the said yearly sums so
to be set apart and paid to His Majesty in lieu of the said
Hereditary Duties of Excise on Ale and Beer and Cider
so suspended.
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration this day.
Assessed Taxes Composition Bill, passed.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to continue Compositions for the Assessed Taxes for a further term, and to
grant relief from, and alter and repeal the said Duties in
certain cases, be now read the third time:-The Bill was
accordingly read the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be,
An Act to continue Compositions for Assessed Taxes for
a further term of one year, and to grant relief from, and
alter and repeal the said Duties in certain cases.
Ordered, That Sir Alexander Grant do carry the Bill
to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Committee on Treasurer of the Navy Bill.
Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further
of the Bill to consolidate and amend the several Acts relating to the Office of Treasurer of His Majesty's Navy:-
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from
the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill,
and made several Amendments thereunto.
Ordered, That the Report be received this day.
Spirit Duties Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to
impose additional Duties of Excise on Spirits.
West India Spirits Bill, deferred.
Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself
into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to
impose an additional Duty of Customs on Spirits, the
produce of the British Possessions in America.
Committee on Refined Sugar Exportation Acts;
Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider
of the Acts 9 Geo. 4, c. 93, to allow Sugar to be delivered
out of Warehouse to be refined; and, 10 Geo. 4, c. 49,
to continue, until the fifth day of July one thousand
eight hundred and thirty, the provisions of an Act to allow
Sugar to be delivered out of Warehouse to be refined:-
The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker
resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported
from the Committee, That they had come to a Resolution,
which they had directed him to report to the House.
Ordered, That the Report be now received.
Reported.
Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the
Committee the Resolution which they had directed him to
report to the House; and the same was read, and is as
followeth;
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee,
that it is expedient to permit, for a time to be limited,
Sugar (the produce of any Foreign Country) to be imported for the purpose of being refined for exportation,
on payment of a Duty of twenty-four shillings for every
hundred weight of such Sugar as shall not be of greater
value than the average value of Sugar, the produce of the
British Plantations in America, and of a further Duty of
sixpence for every one shilling, by which such Sugar shall
be of greater value.
Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration this day.
Half-Pay Apprentices Bill, deferred.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House, on the Bill to prevent the taking and employment of Apprentices usually denominated Half-Pay
Apprentices, be taken into further consideration upon
Monday next.
Report on Fishery (British and Irish Acts.
Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the
whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the
Acts 48 Geo. 3, c. 110, 55 Geo. 3, c. 94, 59 Geo. 3, c. 109,
5 Geo. 4, c. 64, 7 Geo. 4, c. 34 & 47, and, 10 Geo. 4, c.33,
for the Encouragement and Improvement of the British
and Irish Fisheries, and for allowing certain Bounties on
the exportation from Ireland of Salmon, Red Herrings
and Dried Sprats, be now received:-Sir Alexander Grant
accordingly reported from the Committee the Resolution
which they had directed him to report to the House; and
the same was read, and agreed to by the House; and is
as followeth;
Resolved, That it is expedient to revive, continue and
amend several Acts for the Encouragement and Improvement of the British and Irish Fisheries respectively.
Ordered, That a Bill be brought in upon the said
Resolution: And that Sir Alexander Grant, Mr. Herries,
and Mr. Courtenay do prepare, and bring it in.
Sugar Duties Bill, presented.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill for
granting to His Majesty, for a time to be limited, certain
Duties on Sugar imported into the United Kingdom:
And the same was read the first time; and ordered to
be read a second time this day.
Crown Property Customs Bill, ordered.
A Motion being made, That leave be given to bring in
a Bill to subject to Duties of Customs goods the property of the Crown in case of sale after importation;
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer (by His Majesty's
command) acquainted the House, That His Majesty,
having been informed of the subject-matter of this Motion,
gives His consent, as far as His Majesty's interest is concerned, that the House may do therein as they shall think
fit, and recommends the same to the consideration of the
House.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in the Bill: And
that Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer and Mr. George
Dawson do prepare, and bring it in.
Exchequer Bills (£.13,607,600.) Bill, presented.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill for
raising a Sum of Money by Exchequer Bills, for the service of the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty:
And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be
read a second time this day.
Crown Property Customs Bill, presented.
Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill to
subject to Duties of Customs goods the property of the
Crown in case of sale after importation: And the same
was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second
time this day.
Fees and Stamp Duties Bill, presented.
Mr. Hume presented a Bill to abolish certain Fees and
Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions, and Patents, consequent on the demise of the Crown: And the same was
read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time
this day.
Fishery Acts continuance Bill, presented.
Mr. Courtenay presented a Bill to revive, continue, and
amend several Acts relating to the Fisheries: And the
same was read the first time; and ordered to be read
a second time this day.
And then the House, having continued to sit till near
three of the clock on Saturday morning, adjourned
till this day.