East Indies: April 1625

Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Persia, Volume 6, 1625-1629. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1884.

This free content was digitised by double rekeying. All rights reserved.


'East Indies: April 1625', Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Persia, Volume 6, 1625-1629, (London, 1884), pp. 48-63. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol6/pp48-63 [accessed 15 June 2024].

. "East Indies: April 1625", in Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Persia, Volume 6, 1625-1629, (London, 1884) 48-63. British History Online, accessed June 15, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol6/pp48-63.

. "East Indies: April 1625", Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Persia, Volume 6, 1625-1629, (London, 1884). 48-63. British History Online. Web. 15 June 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol6/pp48-63.

April 1625

April 1.
95. Richard Wylde to John Banggam at Lahore. John Benthall by letter of 31st December in Gombroon, desires an account and the proceeds of the moneys and goods sent thence last year. And Hopkinson, at his departure for Mocha, left order to require the proceeds of goods delivered to him and Mr. Goodwin. Cletherow says they were sold a year since in Agra by Goodwin; much wonders the proceeds have not been sent. Indorsed:—Received the 29th May 1626, Caubull, answered the 31st ditto. 1 p. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1185.]
April 4. 96. Court Minutes of the East India Company. A second letter from Mr. Sec. Conway brought by [Rich.] Steele, commending his sufficiency and nominating the place where he should be employed in Persia, which gave occasion to the Court to think said letter was of Steele's own penning, and implied he had a good opinion of himself which conceipt was much disliked, and the Court resolved he should present himself in a more humble manner as a petitioner, and freely told him "of his overweening himself, and that they know him so well that what they shall do for him will be chiefly for Sec. Conway's sake; his experience in cloth gained by living two years at Aleppo conceived to be very little. Some reprehended his pride, others commended his temper, and wished he might not be too much dejected, and his former disservices to the Company, for which the Ambassador sent him home, were remembered. Letters read from Barlow and Misselden certifying that the Dutch ships would pass about the middle of April, it was held meet that the Duke be attended, "when the King's body was brought to town and settled," and to revive the business of Amboyna with a new petition to his Majesty that now is, through the Duke about the travelling charges of the Committees. Representation of Mr. Westrow that much discouragement falls on the trade by unfitting speeches, even of the Committees themselves, one of the generality having said that this stock would be brought to another Muscovy stock, which was disliked, and all men advised to forbear such discouraging speeches, the trade being likely to subsist, and the Persian trade if it could be brought wholly by sea, would prove a Royal trade, and if the Company should desist therefrom they might deservedly be esteemed no good members of the Commonwealth, the Dutch lying in wait to deprive us of that trade. Richard Martyn, Loriner, desired the Court to procure his son's admission into the hospital, but the Court would not meddle therein. 6¾ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VII. 403–409.]
April 4/14.
97. Governor-General Pieter de Carpenter to Martin Sonck, Governor in Teyovan, on the coast of China. Refers to the news sent by Van Diemen and to that which goes to Signor Nunrode. Are in an "unsure" posture with the English, and it will be meet to warn the ships that come this way of the English. If they come to Teyovan, or to the coast of Formosa, unless it be in joint trade and with advertisement from Carpentier, Sonck shall not acknowledge them otherwise than as a neighbour nation. By no means to permit them any trade with the Chinese, but hinder it by warnings, threats, and (these not prevailing) then by force. To do this with better right, it will be meet to take possession of the whole island of Formosa, with the adjacent isles, by the voluntary submission of the principal inhabitants; or if this cannot be fairly done, lest those of China, or especially Japan, be awakened against them, it will be good, without any commotion, to pass a solemn Act of Possession, to serve our masters in Europe, if occasion should require. Dutch, 2 pp. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1186.]
April 4/14.
98. English translation of the preceding, written in London 17th November 1629, and certified to be "a certain extract," by Peter Dircxson. Mutilated by damp, 1 p. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1187.]
April 5.
99. Morris Abbott, Governor, Christopher Clitherow, Deputy, Wm. Stone and Robt. Bateman, Treasurers, and Thos. Style and Thos. Munne, Committees of the English East India Company, to the Dutch East India Company. Have received theirs of 13th Feb. with answer to accounts of provisions interchangeably received and delivered in the Indies, and find them indebted gs. 2,089 9s. 6d. whereof they desire payment, as also the 16,000 gs. remaining unpaid of the 23,906 R. of 8. The parcels of the Swan and others left out to avoid the prosecuting of every particular exception. Exception taken to the charge of 8 barrels of powder and 40 shot for the Hart, which only want out in 1622, and also for provisions delivered to the Charles. Touching the particulars delivered by the Coaster, must confess that the interchangeable assistance will soon faint, if instead of thanks this answer is received, "that your people having received the bread from us have paid the Portugals therefore." Other matters might be noted, as the custom of cloves, but have small hope of reason, but demand payment of the rest of the 23,906 ryals to Mr. Barlow, which their worships undertook by many protestations to pay "without any evasion, excuse, pretence, or allegation of accidents whatsoever that might befall." Forbear to prosecute at this time their demands for the many thousand ryals taken from their people in the Moluccas, Banda, and Amboyna, and for moneys and goods seized upon at the execrable murder at Amboyna. Their monies not yet paid by Croppenburgh. Endorsed by Carleton, 3 pp. [East Indies, Vol. III., No. 71.]
April 5.
The Hague.
100. Sir D. Carleton to Sec. Lord Conway. The Prince of Orange's continual sickness permitting no negotiation by his means, has taken the course of requiring several deputations of the States General. One deputation being solely for the business of the East Indies in two principal points, the building of fortresses and the staying of Coen and committing of Marsechalk. Touching the staying of Coen, the Bewinthebbers insist as much upon his employment as if fortunæ Græciœ had depended upon it; and so wilful were they that they had provided a ship secretly in Zealand to pack him away by Scotland and Ireland to the East Indies whilst we were treating here at the Hague, lest in the Narrow Seas he might be lighted on by the King's ships. And he having provided a wife for that voyage, with whom his marriage was refused for want of due bidding the banns by the ministers of Amsterdam, the Burgomasters and Eschevins, the chief being Bewinthebbers, caused him to be married privately on Wednesday last, with purpose to send him to Zealand and from thence dispatch him to the Indies. But Carleton used his endeavours with the States, who wrote a letter commanding his stay, which was delivered in the midst of his wedding feast, whereby his mirth was marred. And a writing was also given by the States to such of the 17 as are here, signifying their pleasure concerning "that man's stay" As to the other points which the States have in handling, they must have their time, without which nothing is to be done with this State. Encloses,
I. Memorial presented to the States Deputies by Sir D. Carleton and Sir W. St. Leger, in nine articles, the last as follows:—That the disputes of the East Indies, notably that of Amboyna, be first of all settled, so they remain no longer a stumbling block in the way of such grand designs for the public good and the special welfare of this State [as the League against the Emperor and Spain]. French. See the State's Answer, No. 114. [Extracts from Correap. Holland.]
April 5.
101. Robert Barlow to Sir D. Carleton. It is certain that letters of command from the States were delivered here to the Bewinthebbers and to Coen, whereupon they demurred, and have made show there was a stop in their proceedings; notwithstanding there is a going forward and preparation made by Coen's servants, and a Bewinthebber said that notwithstanding the prohibition he made account Coen should go, for by reason of the death of the King of England the matter will not be seen into either by the States or the Ambassador, so being gone the matter may be answered hereafter. Is persuaded that Coen will be sent away, for these great masters, the Bewinthebbers, do little regard any order the States set down, and some of them have said to Barlow except he use further means Coen will be sent away. 1 p. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 5. 102. Same to same. Has received advertisement since his letter of this day's date, that two of the Bewinthebbers were with Coen yesterday who much complained of the wrong done him, he having been at great charge to furnish himself for their service. They told him to have patience, for they did their uttermost best for him and doubted not but they should prevail with the States to give allowance that he should go; and that now, upon the death of the King of England, the matter would not be so nearly seen into. Doubts not but they will effect their wills, except in the Assembly of the States they be prevented; for this town, Horne and Enchusen, Delft and Rotterdam, will stand stiff for it, and those towns do sway much in that Assembly, as Carleton well knows. 1 p. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 6. 103. Court Minutes of the East India Company. A mast to be furnished for the ship Dragon, of 400 tons, pressed for the King's service, sailors having been provided at Hamburg; only 20 or 30 pieces wanted from Italy. Petition of one Corne to the King for a patent for the sole making of the trimming stuff; but as the stuff comes off the ship in great pieces the Court showed no willingness to oppose him. Discussion concerning the Persian trade; great dividends could not be expected seeing they had concluded this second stock to be prolonged for four years from Christmas 1623. 200.000l. needful for next year's employment and provisions, besides 50,000l. for mariner's wages if any ships arrive from the Indies. Resolved to "drive the trade" with part of the goods returned. Report of Mr. Governor concerning the pirate business that the Lords of the Council, after hearing the business at large, confirmed their former order that the Trinity House should pay the 2,000l. per annum first allotted to them, and for contributing towards the service in the Narrow Seas, the Board would judge between them and the Company when the collection for the Algiers expedition was ended; some of the Trinity House willing to determine the difference, "complaining of great gratifications, but being altogether unwilling to furnish their arrears by money taken up at interest." Petition of John Dodd, Jeoffreys, and Hall for employment in overseeing the dyeing and dressing of cloth. Examination of each; Dodd commended, but one main objection that he uses spectacles. The business respited to see if any others more able appear. Cider to be bought of one Oliver. Mr. Ducy to view Lord Zouch's timber, not far from Farnham; he had been all over Hampshire and Sussex but could find no timber fit for the Company's use, for already old timber is very scarce. The mariners' accounts. Mr. Flockett to have 4l. for piloting the Lion and Dolphin to Gravesend. Concerning the action against Palmer as surety for Martin's debt. Edmond Chamber's bill for the Company's barge, to be paid. Petition to the King to be made ready concerning the trade of Persia and the Company's many grievous sufferings in the Indies through the Dutch, but not delivered at their first attending his Majesty, except the occasion come fitly from himself, otherwise only to express their joy for his happy coming to the Crown and to pray a continuance of that favour which they had from the late King. Information from Sir John Coke that the Commissioners of the Navy had certified to the Lord Admiral concerning the captains employed in the King's ships upon the Narrow Seas, but had received no answer; resolved that the Duke be attended in that business. Concerning the salary of Bartholomew Wayte, one of the auditors. Information by Philip Burlamachi that he had been desired by the French Ambassador to propound that the French may trade with them to the Indies with a good round stock, and adventure wholly in the Company's ships, affirming that the offer had been made to them by the State, but they had rather deal with merchants; the Court relished well the motion, but desired in so weighty a business to have the propositions in writing. 5 pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VII., 410–414.]
April 7.
104. Barlow to Carleton. Since his last concerning the sending away of Coen the Bewinthebbers have propounded the same in the Assembly of the States, and for anything Barlow can learn Coen doth prepare to go. One Blocke Martess who was Governor three years at Amboyna before Harman Speult, told Barlow that notwithstanding the prohibition Coen would proceed on the voyage except he were prevented, and that he wished the States would hear him and some others that had been in the Indies, concerning Coen's past government which hath been unprofitable, and if he go and run on the former course, will be worse, in regard of the free trade he doth propound, which will take away a great deal of benefit from both Companies. He says that in Coen's government the Company did no ways prosper as formerly, for in five years before they advanced to the adventurers 167 per cent., whereas in all his time there was only some 35 per cent. advanced. These things have been shown, but Coen had so much the favour of the Bewinthebbers, that they would not hear anything against him, so wishes the States might hear what he and others can say. He is a very understanding man, and can show there is sufficient trade for both Companies so as there were good agreement, which he concludes will never be if Coen have the command. 1 p. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 8. 105. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Consideration of the provisions to be made for Persia as to cloth, the Committees intreated to buy as fast and with as much secrecy as may be; for if they send not cloth into Persia, the Dutch will, for they daily buy great quantities, and it was supposed by some that they have intelligence from Persia before this Company. Report of Cartwright that Dodd hearing of the place of overseeing the dyeing and dressing of the cloth made known his secret to Gowen, his familiar friend, who now makes all the means he can to step in before him; this was much disliked, whereupon Dodd was entertained at 50l. per annum, and Gowen dismissed. Report by Mr. Governor of his having attended the Lord Admiral concerning the neglect of the captains of the King's ships in the Downs, and acquainting his Grace of the two Dutch ships that are preparing for the Indies, and Sir John Coke told them the Duke would be very glad if those captains in this second design would recover their honour; Capt. Kettleby put into Capt. Love's ship, the others reproved, and one of them saith he is utterly undone. Mr. Bell now attends the Duke to procure effectual letters to the captains about that business. Report of Mr. Governor that Steele demands 300l. per annum, whereupon the Court remembered that he had but 200 marks for his last employment, wherein he altogether failed, and they were unwilling to allow him so much now, but from respect to Lord Conway "if he will ask reason, he shall have it," Payment to Quarles, Postmaster of Holland. Concerning the salary of Wayte, the auditor, and his length of absence. Petition of Michael Greene for the Company's "favourable censures of his former errors," and for re-entertainment, declaring his poverty, imprisonment, expenses, and disgrace; but the Court told him they all came to him by his own wilful misdemeanor, uncivil behaviour, and riotous and licentious loose living in the Indies at an expense of 2,000 ryals to the Company, his justification of himself, being known to be false, he was told that if he expect favour he must confess his errors, and acknowledge what he is in the Company's debt. Demand of Greenbury, the painter, that made the great picture of the tortures and executions of Amboyna, of 100l. for his labour. The Court told him he was worthy to be blamed for permitting such a multitude to have the sight of it in his house, for by the view thereof not only that picture was taken away, but divers other conceipts upon the same subject were quashed; that it was a question whether they should pay for it, but if he make a reasonable demand they will think upon him; he then demanded 90l., but was told, "one proffered to cut it out in brass for 30l., which was a great deal more labour and workmanship than to draw it on a cloth. After much dispute he was willed to consider of a new demand, and Messrs. Bell and Munnes were desired to treat with him for the same. About a mast for the ship Dragon. 4¼ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VII. 415–419.]
[1625. April 8.] 106. The East India Company's directions for stay of the Holland ships outward bound. Places fit for the King's ships to attend; advice of the readiness of the Dutch ships to weigh anchor, so as the commanders be ready. Also necessary to have a couple of nimble catches to give the ships intelligence of the coming of the Dutch ships. Some sufficient commander should be appointed whom the rest may be willing to obey. The ships in the Downs on intelligence given to weigh anchors and stand so far to westward that if the Dutch pass in the night they may meet them in the morning. To have authority to command any English ships or men to assist them, and if the Dutch ships refuse to yield to restrain them by force. Endorsed by Sir John Coke as above. 1½ pp. [East Indies, Vol. III., No. 72.]
April 8.
107. Barlow to Carleton. It seems the Bewinthebbers have not found the success they made account of for sending forward their General, for the Bewinthebbers have now resolved he should not go, whereof notice was given to Coen. But some sudden alteration has happened, for yesterday the greatest man here amongst the Bewinthebbers said that there was no question but that Coen should go. One of the Bewinthebbers was sent to Zealand to dispatch away the ships, but does not know whether the resolution is to go "on the backside of Scotland and Ireland." Assures him the staying of Coen gives a great deal of contentment to the greatest part of the adventurers, who have a very bad opinion of him. ½ p. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 9.
108. Commission and instructions to John Rowe on his intended voyage for England in the Star. Appoint him commander of the ship and all in her except Edward Heynes and Robt. Hutchinson, merchants. Considering the lateness of his departure, to endeavour by all possible means to keep company with the Dutch ships, and to keep his own ship clear and ready provided on all occasions to withstand pirates. Edward Heynes, Jno. Rowe, Robert Hutchinson, Daniel White, and the master's prime and second mate to be of his council; Heynes to have a "casting voice," and in case Rowe decease Heynes is appointed to succeed him, and John Vine to navigate the ship. Signed by Tho. Kerridge, Joseph Hopkinson, Richard Wylde, and Will. Hoare. 2 pp. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1188.]
April 10.
109. Duke of Buckingham to Capt. Wilbraham, of H.M.S. Mary Rose. Has sent another warrant to him and the rest of the captains of his Majesty's ships to stay all ships of the East India Company of the Netherlands they can meet with, and hopes they will be more diligent therein than heretofore. This will not hinder their service in having an eye on the actions of the men-of-war of Dunkirk; will be glad to understand of their diligence and vigilance in both. [Domestic Corresp. Chas. I., Vol. 1., No. 48, Cal., p. 8.]
April 11–14. 110. Court Minutes of the East Company. 700 tons of timber marked out by Stevens at Reading, who found Lord Zouch's timber very fit for the Company. Report of Mr. Governor of his having attended the Duke concerning the late error of the captains on the Narrow Seas, and for stay of the two Dutch ships now expected to sail to the Indies; that he was told by Sir John Coke the captains were desirous to redeem their former error, however it was desired and readily granted that into each ship shall be put a seaman of approved sufficiency, who shall command equally with the captains: it was thought that no other need be put aboard Sir Richard Bingley's ship, who had taken to heart the reproof and was resolved to redeem his former error, but for the other two ships, Mr. Whiting is gotten in one of them, and for the third is appointed Mr. Swanley; and a warrant is procured for them and sent down by John Yonge to the Downs, with John Powell and Ephraim Ramsey, who escaped the torture and know Coen and Mareschalk, who are said to go for the Indies in the ships now bound forth. Yonge is also directed to stir up the captains and masters of the ketches that there be good looking out for Dutch ships homeward bound; and to give an account of moneys disbursed to Edward Leager and others. A complaint from Capt. Blythe of great want of care in caulking his ships. Examination of Stevens about the servants employed by him in the yard. [Richard] Steele after some debate entertained at 200 marks per annum.
April 13.—Petition of Thomas Liggins that assists their Beadle for increase of salary. Evelyn's demands for making their saltpetre into powder being too high, ordered that the Company go presently in hand with the setting up a mill, and to write to "Danske" for 300 barrels of powder, and 300 kintalls of saltpetre. Resignation of Robert Bacon, the Company's Secretary, being very sensible of the imperfections that age brings with it, and that the Company's business is like to grow greater; his remarks and desire to be employed in some other service.
April 14.—Report of Mr. Governor that his Majesty took in good part the offer of the Company's service, and had given way that two expert seamen be joined to the captains of his Majesty's ships for stay of the Dutch ships outward bound; and Mr. Bell declared that he, understood from Lord Conway that the King hath made a stop of all proceedings with the Dutch nation until the East India Company there hath given full satisfaction to this Company for the several wrongs received in the Indies. The resignation of Robert Bacon accepted, but to be employed in messages or otherwise to the Lords, with a yearly pension of 50l. Messrs. Sherburne, Watts, and Cappur, being put in nomination for the place of secretary, the election fell on Sherburne, who was admitted and sworn accordingly with a salary of 120l. per annum. He desired to entertain Richard Swinglehurst the late Secretary's servant at 10l. per annum, with diet and lodgings. Mr. Cappur having failed in the election of secretary was for his encouragement granted 100l. gratification. 7¼ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VII. 419–426.]
April 14.
111. Jno. Banggam to Tho. Rastell, London. Heartily wishes for his prosperous arrival in England. To relate all occurrences since his departure would be tedious. Having established the trade in Persia, ere they were ready to depart from Gombroom, the Portugal Armada came into the road; with whom the Dutch fleet and theirs fought two days and a half. Albert Becker the Dutch [? Admiral] was slain, and their powder and shot almost spent, but the Portugal was put to the worst, and glad to be gone. Sailed for Surat and arrived at Swally in March, where they had notice of his departure for England with the Blessing and William the 15th February. Capt, Kerridge took possession of the place, and goods being ready the Star was appointed to lade home; in her come Heynes and Hutchinson, and the King of Persia's Ambassador to our Sovereign. The Prince of Chorom again repulsed out of his father's dominions, returned by Masulipatam, and is within "50 course" of Brampoor, Abdallah Khan going before him. 'Tis greatly feared he will come to Surat, and attempt Guzerat again; how they may be dealt with by the Prince is doubtful, yet hope the best; the King is remote towards Cashmere, and in these parts little strength to withstand such an enemy Death of Wm. Bell, agent in Persia; Barker confirmed agent there. Is appointed to go speedily to Cambaya, especially to endeavour the sale of Morris Abbott's emeralds to the Governor there, Meer Mooza, and from thence must go to Ahmedabad and Brodera, Wishes to be commended to James Lancaster and Wm. Gibson. 1 p. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1189.]
April 14. 112. Richard Wylde to John Banggam, at Cambaya. Is bold under his convoy to send to Gregory Clement at Ahmedabad some odd commodities, viz., one case of strong waters, a fowling piece, rapier, buffcoat, and bottle, of oil; requests him at his arrival at Cambaya to cause Capt Weddell's carpets and tapestry to be shown to Meer Mooza, as also a comb case of the Company's, if no sale then to send them to Ahmedabad. 1 p. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1190.]
April — 113. Same to same. As to the sale of the carpet or tapestry, &c. Upon mature deliberation, being unacquainted with the broker's, honesty, desires he will give him 150 rupees and no more, carrying the remains to Clement. 1 p. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1191.]
[April 17/27] 114. Answer of the States General to a memorial in nine articles, presented by Sir D. Carleton and Sir Will. St. Leger. with marginal notes by Carleton [ante No. 100 I.]. To the last it is answered that the trouble that has happened at Amboyna infinitely displeases the States, and his Majesty's Ambassador can witness to the pains they have brought to bear upon this affair to give his Majesty contentment, even but a few days since; and they will not fail to resolve as soon as possible on the rest of the points exhibited by the Ambassador in all equity and reason. In the margin Carleton has written, "His Majesty likes the resolution I have advertized, and will stay the time; but because Amboyna is an example to all the rest of the East Indies, being avowed by the Dutch General and defended by the Bewinthebbers in their remonstrance made in November last, for which a remedy was thought of by three points, his Majesty is no whit pleased by the delays and eschappatories in the answer, therefore presseth a resolution." Endorsed by Carleton: This brought unto us 17/27 April 1625. See reply to this answer, No. 136. French. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 19.
115. Carleton to Sec. Conway. In the business of the East Indies the two personal affairs touching Coen and Mareschalk are thus resolved; the former is stayed by reiterated commandments of the States, and the latter restrained at Delft, of which town he is burgher, and the magistrates encharged to see him safely produced at the arrival of the Governor and the rest of the Judges of Amboyna; who, being sent for, no more remains to be effected till their coming. Two points are resting of those proposed by our merchants, touching a new course for the future, which require more treaty and time; for the 17 Bewinthebbers could not be brought to a consent, pretending a necessity in cane the ordinary course of justice be altered, as is required in having both criminal and civil causes in which the English are interested remitted to the council of defence, to have certain rules and instructions set down to the Council by which to govern themselves, otherwise they say affairs are like to fall into greater confusion than ever. And as to the point of fortifications, they do not deny liberty to the English to erect forts, but allege more is required in the distribution of places for each nation, or by one part alone than can be set down in haste, and pretend they have no instructions from the General Chambers how to establish a new course, which they desired they might deliberate upon, and send their resolution by the Ambassadors into England. And thereupon they took advantage of an equivocation from an unadvised President of the States General that they might vertrecken (withdraw), which was meant, to their lodgings in town, but they went away to their several homes the same night. But Carleton discovered the dislike of this new delay, and made the States resolve to treat with him again, without remitting these points to their Ambassadors, and so they will as soon as the storm of affairs is blown over. Meanwhile thinks it more honourable for the King to be sought by their Ambassadors than his ministers to be suitors for satisfaction, and his subjects will be better pleased when they may hear and be heard; danger of sending these Ambassadors with limited instructions; but Sir Will. St. Leger will acquaint him with an expedient. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 23. 116. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Propositions of Messrs. Styles and Stroud that an overshot mill should either be erected by the Company or one found out already built for making powder; that the charge will be far less to the Company for this commodity than now it is, and the powder much better than what is bought. Brainford [? Brentford] thought to be a convenient place, or if the charge be too great there, Tunbridge, or some place in Sussex or Kent. Long debate whether any such resolution should be taken in regard of the cost and great danger of fire, there being lately two of Evelyn's powder mills blown up; but was answered that a third penny will be saved by erecting and buying an overshot mill, and that 2 cwt. of saltpetre will produce 3 cwt. of powder. The Court made no conclusion but that Mr. Bowen's opinion and advice be taken. In consideration of the charge of hiring coaches, and the danger "in this time of sickness to hire mercenary coaches, which are common to all kind of people, whole or sick," ordered that the Company buy a coach, and because. Mr. Westrowe offered one for 20l. which cost him not long since 40l., Mr. Styles and others are desired "to view and peruse" it. Committees for the warehouses to attend that service on Thursday next. 3½ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VIII. 1–4.]
April 23.
The Hague.
117. Sir D. Carleton to Sec. Conway. As to the business of the East Indies, particularly the point of Amboyna, "at the States' Ambassadors departure from England in June last, whilst that wound was then freshly bleeding, his Majesty, by his own mouth, demanded of those Ambassadors justification or satisfaction; which being reported to the States they laid aside justification, and for satisfaction summoned the Bewinthebbers of their East Indian Company. The Bewinthebbers produced the pieces framed by their ministers against the English in Amboyna; against which I alleged the information of such English in Amboyna as escaping that execution were returned into England; which not only differing but contrarying each other in many material points, the Bewinthebbers endeavour with the States tended always to gaining of time in expectance of further information, and mine to have the States take a resolution one way or other upon such information as were already given. In conclusion, after many and long debates, this resolution they came to, to deport the Governor and all their other ministers of Amboyna which had hand in the execution of the English, and transport them hither as prisoners to abide the trial of justice, with order to their General at Jacatra to take exact information by special commission of the truth of those points wherein the English and Dutch differ in matter of fact, and permission for the English to do the like." Our men approve this course of bringing the Dutch hither to trial, but like not to employ any upon further inquiry lest that should make a new process, which was never the intention, but to know infallibly, by select persons of both nations, the truth of what was already alleged, and time must be allowed for bringing the Dutch out of the Indies; for which the States have sent express order by two several despatches to Jacatra, and a third into England to be conveyed by our men, which the English Company refused to send because they require that Laurence Marschalk, should be apprehended and proceeeded against, and because they demand further satisfaction in two of the three articles. Why these three articles, as a reglement for the future, should be linked to the particular business of Amboyna, Carleton cannot bring the Company to comprehend. Carleton let the Bewinthebbers know that their connivance with Mareschalk engendered diffidence in our men of effectual justice in the whole business. Has pressed this point of Mareschalk's apprehension ever since Mareschalk's arrival in these ports; but they have alleged that if they proceed against him the news would put the Governor and the rest of those judges into despair, and either cause them to revolt or else to render the castle to the Spaniard. Now this reason holds not, because their packets for the apprehension of the Governor and the rest are departed, so suffering him still to go at liberty is against policy and justice. This point they have now in deliberation, as likewise the staying of Coen, and the other two points for new reglement. Despairs of getting Mareschalk to be proceeded against till his fellows are brought out of the Indies, and more clear information come from thence. Could wish our men had been contented to have joined with the Dutch in the examination, and send orders by their nest ships, which he cannot but esteem necessary, for proceeding criminally against those judges must be here and not in England. The late Prince, at a time when he soon thought to leave this world, said that he "never imagined to have lived so long as to have heard of so much inhumanity in these country people, but that he doubted that air changed their nature, and that it were well they were all hanged for example." All possible light from the Indies to make this business clear is more than necessary, and our men may very well look after, by having some of themselves joined to the Dutch by way of inquisition. Has not acquainted the States with their refusal in their remonstance to his Majesty. Draft with corrections, 6 pp. [Corresp. Holland.]
April 27. 118. Court Minutes of the East Indian Company. John Keeling's bill for horse hire to be paid. Report of Mr. Governor that he had received a letter from John Bacon, a prisoner in the Compter, late Mr. Lanman's servant, who had counterfeited his master's and other hands, thereby procuring 89l., confessing his offence and imploring the Company's favour and clemency, that for this time it might tend only to his chastising, not to his destruction. The Court commending his letter, and much pitying him that being a proper young man and a scholar he should have no more grace than to commit so heinous a crime, and hoping that he would reform himself and become a new man, ordered that if he shall be able by himself or his friends to repay the money that then they intend no further prosecution against him, otherwise they purpose to proceed against him according to law both for recovery of the 89l. and also for punishing his offence. Ordered that Steven's view the timber which Sir Francis Lee intends felling about Shooter's Hill. Mr. Poynett to be released from attending the Company's service in his ketch on the promise to put an able man in his room. The satins bespoke of Alderman Mowlson to be viewed. 300 or 400 loads of timber near Reading, viewed by-Thomas Ellyott, for which the owner demanded 24s. Forty shillings to be paid to Lanman, disbursed for my Lord Duke's secretary. Boatswain Ingram to provide 10 dozen of the best fir rafts for oars. Consideration of the merchandize most commodious for the trade of Persia. Four pieces of cloth of gold of Florence, and four other pieces, all of the richest and best that can be got, two to be mixed with a little show of silver, so it take not away their richness and beauty; two chests of satins, green and crimson, and four or five "incarnatives"; 200 perpetuanaes, 200 Devonshire kersies, and 200 or 300 northern kersies; and 20 small shooting pieces with firelocks, from Mountabann; latten plate, copper and knives not ordered for the present. It was alleged that copper might be bought in Japan for half the price it would cost here. Discourse upon the safest and readiest way to convey the Company's silks out of Italy; the general opinion was overland to Lyons and Paris. Information that Mr. Burrell had pressed all the carpenters and shipwrights at work in the Company's service at Blackwall on the ships for Persia. Resolved that a petition be drawn to the Lord Admiral, but on Mr. Cappur being sent to Burrell to know the true cause of so sudden and general a press, he was told that the Lord Admiral had sent a special command to Burrell to press as many carpenters as could be found, and to spare neither the East nor West India yards at this time, for that his Majesty, when last on the river, took notice that the French fleet was in readiness, and seemed displeased that his own was so backward. The Court, taking consideration of the extraordinary occasions now in hand for the King's service, and in regard the time is but short, resolved to rest satisfied. To speak with Mr. Hooker, Lord Carew's deputy, for cancelling Messrs. Mountney and Washburne's bonds for the return of ordnance sent to the Indies. Complaint against the keeper of the taphouse at Blackwall yard, for selling strong beer and making fires in his shed; the chimney to be stopped up, and no other than beer at 6s. a barrel to be drawn. Concerning the safe keeping of the warehouses. Letters to be written to James Bagg at Plymouth, and Wm. Towerson at Portsmouth, to send speedy notice hither and to the King's ships if any Dutch East India ships put into those parts. 7¼ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VIII. 4–11.]
April 27.
The height of Cape Comorin.
119. John Weddell to the East India Company. Has the originals of the following letters which were sent to him at his arrival in Persia ready at their service:—
The Khan of Shiraz to the Capt.-General of the English fleet. Has received notice of his arrival at Bander-Abansee, which tidings have much gladded him. He and all the worthy captains are very welcome. Their joint and constant friendship is "infallible", and the country is at their service. The accord made betwixt them shall continue without breach until the world's end, and what business soever they have shall be presently effected.
Imaun Cullie Beg, General, to Capt. John Weddell, and the rest of the worthy English captains. Many good welcomes to their safe arrival. In the interim of their meeting, any business they give notice of shall be fully effected. Has been in long expectation of their coming, and their arrival has given him occasion of much rejoicing.
A relation of two Portugals born in Ormuz. Ormuz besieged by Ruffrero. The Dutch endeavour to prevail with the King of Persia to let them have Ormuz, which they would maintain against all force and engage to people. Richness of the pearl fishery. Bahrein the chief place. The King of Persia's territories. Desire of the people of Ormuz to settle a trade with the English. Bravery of the Persians in defending Ormuz. Ruffrero has ruined many of the forts betwixt Jask and Gombroon and reported to the Sultan that the heads of the English Commanders "in the exploit and design of Ormuz" were cut off; that there was to be a match between the Prince and Infanta, and that the King of England had engaged to reinvest them in Ormuz. The King of Ormuz still living at Ormuz. Castle built by the Persians at Gombroon. Endorsed, Rec. 7 March, 1625–6. Sent home in the Star by Capt. John Weddell. 3 pp. [O.C., Vol. X., No. 1172.]
120. Another copy of the relation of two Portugals born in Ormuz. 3¾ pp. [East Indies, Vol, III., No. 73.]
April 27.
Aboard the Royal James. Cape Comorin.
121. Captain John Weddell to East India Company. Recites his former letter from Gombroon, as it may very easy miscarry. They weighed anchor 17th November 1624, at Swally Road, for Persia, in. company with the Dutch fleet; descried the next day the Eagle and two prizes. Johnson informed him of an armada of eight Portugal galleons, besides frigates, before Goa, and that their first attempt would be against them at Swally Road, and then to go for the Gulf after them: after consultation it was concluded to return for Surat to secure the Blessing and William. Parted with the Dutch on the 19th and the 21st, met the Blessing and William at the Bar, when it was determined they should go with them to sea, as if bound for Persia, anchor out for 15 days, and then return with all speed to dispatch for England. Parted with the Blessing and William 1st December, took a Portugal laden with cotton and grain, made the Islands of Ormuz, Larack, and Kishme; descried Ruffrero's fleet of frigates ; and on the 28th moored in Gombroon Road, where they found the four, Flemings, and were received with a great deal of joy. Set sail for Ormuz 17th January to ballast, and viewed the town, which is not much ruined, and the castle well repaired. The Persian begins to be weary of keeping it, in respect they have no shipping, and Barker is persuaded if it should be demanded by the English, it would be assigned to them. The merchants receive the moiety of customs still. The Persians would willingly have employed them in some exploit upon Muscat, which Kerridge would no way entertain, in respect of a fleet of Portugals to come for the Gulf this very year. Descried the 31st eight great sails besides frigates in the offing, and the commander of the Dutch called Albert Becker sent to know what Weddell thought the ships to be and to demand his resolution. Told him they could be no other than the Portugal armada, which had been two years "providing" to meet with either the English or Dutch, and had come in search of them from Goa, and that Weddell was "determined to fight it out with them as long as there was a man living in our ships to wave a sword unto them;" they replied they were of the like resolution, and would stick as close unto us as the shirts on our backs. Then follows a true arid exact relation of our sea fight made between our common enemy the Portugal and us, the English being accompanied with four ships of the Dutch, against eight galleons and sixteen frigates in sight of Gombroon on the 1st, 3rd, and 14th February 1624–5. The chief commander of the Dutch slain. During two days' fight Mr. Barker and the Sultan of Gombroon, sitting upon the houses, counted 16,000 shot, but in the greatest brunt the ordnance went off so fast that they could not tell them. The Sultan caused meat ready roasted, bread and milk, to be sent to them and the Dutch, and also powder ; and they lent the Dutch 30 barrels. Were forced to give over the chase, because the time of year was so far spent, and they had left but 21 barrels of powder, 500 cartridges and 600 shot, "and the Dutch worse to pass than we" Came to anchor in Swally Road on 8th March. When ready with the Jonas and Star for despatch, the President brought news of the Ann's being at Moho (Mocha ?), the Jonas dispeeded to her assistance. The Scout sent to inquire at Socotra. The Ann but 40 men left, and the ship very leaky. The Eagle bound for Acheen, and through the Straits of Malacca to the southwards, and the Spy and a frigate, along with the great James For Batavia. The men on the middle deck thought the ordnance would have fallen through the upper deck which is much decayed, but she is strong between wind and water, for of 20 great shot few went quite through her. Neither they nor the Dutch lost a mast or yard, but their sails are altogether unserviceable. Of the Portugals, the admiral, vice-admiral, rear-admiral, fourth ship and another, all had some of their masts shot by the board, "thus it pleased God to curb their pride." Their bread exceeding bad, forced to heave half overboard, it may better be made at Surat, where it is not half so dear as in London. Their beef better than formerly, wine, in respect of the fight is much spent as also their powder and shot, with which they hoped to be furnished at Batavia. Have received great good by the white wine, which continues good till the last drop. Could have had a great deal better at Surat than that (sent in the Star). Plaster of Paris, "it is a very pestering commodity to the ship that carries it." Purposes sheathing the James at Jacatra. [Postscript] The Dutch carry saltpetre for ballast, which may be had very cheap; Kerridge, promised to be provided with same against the next ships for England. Took a junk of Cochin, with Portugal goods and letters, from which they had intelligence that the Portugal "would not out the Gulf till he had taken Ormuz," so thinks they will have more to do with him. They may continue sending two pinnaces with each fleet, "for there may not a boat pass upon the coast but by their help we may speak with them, so that now we have above 80 blacks working in the ships." The pinnaces, if made to carry eight serviceable long minion [guns] will be exceedingly beneficial on all occasions. Has sent another letter by the Maid-van-Dort, because far better of sail than the Star. 9 pp. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1192.]
April 27 ? 122. List of the names of 29 men slain in fight with the Portugals in the Gulf of Persia, Feb. 1st, 3rd, and 14th, 1624–5, viz., in the Royal James, 13; in the Jonas, 11; in the Star, 4; and in the Eagle, 1. In some of the Portugal ships were 65, 60, 50, and 45 guns, and their men three for one. The Dutch lost near as many as ourselves; their commander, Albert Becker, slain. The Portugals lost 800 men, and it is thought their commander. The quantity of shot spent in the three fleets the three days could not be less than 20,000. The Royal James received 450 shot, whereof some were 27½ inches in. circumference. Were forced to leave the gunner of the Jonas at Surat to procure shot. Want carpenters throughout all India, for they had but 13 in the James, and four of them slain. 1 p. [O.C., Vol. X., No. 1175.]
April 27.
Aboard the Eagle
123. John Johnson to the East India Company. Account of their voyage from Surat to Persia and the battles of Feb. 1, 3, and 14 with the Portugal galleons. After the second fight of 8 galleons there were but two that had their topmasts standing; but the greatest blow they received was the loss of their general and vice-admiral, who were both slain. Thinks "they had all of their decks laid under water, or else of necessity most of them had been sunk, for sure they could not be built shot free." Mutilated by damp. Endorsed:—From Surat going to Acheen Rd. by the ship Star, 6 February. 2 pp. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1193.]
April 29. 124. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Directions to prevent the much loss and detriment to the dyed and dressed cloths lying in the warehouses; also for writing to Italy for four excellent pieces of cloth of gold; but not concluded whether to send by land or sea in regard of the wars in Italy and France. Abstract of a letter from Sir Dudley Carleton to Sec. Conway read, wherein is declared the reiterated command of the States for Coen's stay, and the restraint of Mareschalk at Delft till the arrival of the rest of the judges of Amboyna, who are sent for. The Court, finding it far short of what they expected, thought good to take no public notice thereof, expecting shortly to hear from the Ambassador himself. Hugh Greete's account deferred. Meeting of the Committees about the warehouses appointed for tomorrow. 1½ pp. [Ct. Min. Bk. VIII. 11–13.]
April 29.
The Hague.
125. Carleton to Conway. The States have resolved upon some speech he used to that purpose of recalling the Bewinthebbers, with charge to come fully instructed and authorised to treat of a new reglement in the Indies upon the three points proposed by the English merchants, and not to plead as they did when last here against the desires of the English. [Extract from Corresp. Holland.]
April 30.
126. Tho. Kerridge to John Banggam at Ahmedabad. Much approves his going by way of Cambaya, and his fortune too in meeting Gourdas there. Knows the jewels will be bought, but most desires to put off the tapestry. ½ p. Mutilated by damp. [O.C., Vol. XI., No. 1194.]