Venice: December 1532

Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 4, 1527-1533. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1871.

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December 1532

Dec. 12. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 285. 833. Prothonotary Casal.
The English ambassador came into the College for news, but did not transact any business of importance.
[Italian.]
Dec. 13. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 351. 834. Carlo Capello to the Signory.
Urged the ministers to grant the permission for the galleys to go to England, and spoke at great length on the subject in the Council Chamber. The Duke of Norfolk said the business was of very great importance, and they would consider it.
Has visited Mons. de Montpézat, the French ambassador, the successor of Mons. do Pomeraye. Was informed by him that the congregation of prelates held in Paris will not end before Christmas; and that the most Christian King purposes raising a force of 40,000 infantry in France, with their commanders, somewhat like the Venetian militia (fn. 1); and this he does without taking any foreign troops.
The King of England goes to the Tower daily to hasten the works there; and is founding cannon, and having gunpowder made. He has appointed 24 captains of the island to make a census of the able-bodied men capable of bearing arms; and his forces lately made a foray into Scotland, the Scots having also invaded England.
Requests the State to appoint his successor.
London, 13th December 1532. Registered by Sanuto 18th January 1533.
[Italian.]
Dec. 14. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 353. 835. Zuan Antonio Venier and Marin Giustinian, Venetian Ambassadors in France, to the Signory.
At the meeting of the ecclesiastics, held in the house of the Legate, it seems that they offered two tenths; but the King not choosing “tenths,” they offered him the equivalent of two tenths, though at present it will not be levied, unless needed. Having done this, the meeting was dissolved.
Subsequently the Papal Nuncio, Triulzi, Bishop of Como, was seen in a passion with the most Christian King, (fn. 2) who gave him the lie a good three times, using dishonourable language against the Pope.
Two Germans arrived in Paris, the one as agent from the Count Palatine, the other from the brother of the late Duke Frederick. They had audience of the King, and have departed. It is said they came to notify the dissatisfaction of the Princes at the Emperor's sudden departure from Germany. Will send the copy received by them, of what the two Kings negotiated at the conference. Believes it to be much curtailed. (fn. 3)
Giustinian has finished paying the visits of introduction, and Venier will set out on his way home at Christmas.
Paris, 14th December 1532. Registered by Sanuto 18th January 1533.
[Italian.]
Dec. 16. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 351. 836. Carlo Capello to the Signory.
Has heard upon oath, from persons who are likely to know, that the King of Scotland sent the Princess the ring, and affianced himself to her in the presence of certain witnesses; and this took place owing to the departure of the King, who hearing it on his return, was much troubled, and on this account sent twice to France. Yesterday a messenger arrived from the King of Scotland and told his Majesty that his King will do whatever he, the King of England, wishes, and be his good son.
Yesterday the Princess went to the Tower with the King; today she returns to her residence. It is hoped the affair will pass quietly.
It is said that in the spring the most Christian King, with the King of England, will undertake the Italian expedition. They believe that in the event of the Council, the Pope will accede to their wishes, and are expecting the decision from Rome.
London, 16th December 1532. Registered by Sanuto 18th January 1533.
[Italian.]
Dec. 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 351. 837. Carlo Capello to the Signory.
Went to the Al malo [or Alimalio] about the galleys, and Dom Cromwell said that should it be chosen to send the galleys, an arrangement must be made with the King. Replied that he had no commission to that effect, his business merely relating to the privilege granting them permission to come during five years, of which two were still due; and if the galleys did not come last year, it was because there was no wool in the island, and now that there is an abundance of it, they ought to abide by the privilege, which is advantageous for England. The King heard the conversation, for he was in a chamber [ensconced?] behind the arras. I then dined with the Duke of Norfolk and the Earl of Wiltshire, who told me afterwards in his Majesty's name that he was content that the galleys should be sent this year, and ratified the privilege until the end of March 1535. Should it be wished to continue the voyages, they insist on three things: the first is a fixed amount of ready money to be sent with the galleys; secondly, that the spices be of a certain description; and thirdly, a specified quantity of bow staves; but the chief of these conditions is the amount of money. So for this year the Signory may send the galleys under good auspices, and subsequently obtain permission for others to come. Will have the present permit inscribed at the foot of the old privilege, as it would be very expensive to draw up a new one.
The Duke of Norfolk said that the King is the Signory's friend. Suggests that a letter of thanks be written to his Majesty. The Duke added, “The Pope and the Emperor purpose harassing you: be watchful; keep your eyes open.” They then said, “Beware of the Pope, who is restrained by you alone (che non pensa se non de vol) and would fain make himself master of the greater part of Italy.” They also approved of the garrisons placed in the Signory's towns, for the passage of the Emperor.
The Duke of Norfolk requests the Signory to send to him from Venice by safe conveyance, the safest possible, at the least cost, the body or bones of Thomas [Mowbray] the first Duke of Norfolk, who was buried more than 150 years ago in a vault (deposito) in St. Mark's Church; and concerning this, the English ambassador, to whom he (the Duke) is writing, will receive instructions. (fn. 4)
It is believed that the affairs of Scotland will be arranged.
An ambassador from the King of Denmark has arrived, and was presented today; and they also despatched the envoy from Scotland.
Requests the appointment of his successor, that he maybe enabled to return home.
London, 23rd December 1532. Registered by Sanuto 18th January 1533.
[Italian.]
Dec. 26. Sanuto Diaries, v. lvii. p. 351. 838. Carlo Capello to the Signory.
The Duke of Norfolk requests me to have sent for him hither a perfectly impenetrable cuirass, of those made at Brescia; and the Earl of Wiltshire wants another for himself, and one for his brother, and the Treasurer and Dom. Cromwell make a like demand, so that they will be five in all with their coverings; and they say they will pay for them. Sends the measurements.
London, 26th December 1533. Registered by Sanuto 18th January 1533.
[Italian.]

Footnotes

  • 1. “Quasi come si fa le nostre ordination.”
  • 2. “Alterato col Rè Xmo.”
  • 3. See document dated 28th October 1532.
  • 4. In the inquisition on the death of Thomas Mowbray (1 Henry IV.), the place of his death is not mentioned, but the time is stated to be 22nd September 1399.