Lunae, 19 Aprilis, 1624

Lille's Nat.

L. 1. AN Act for the Naturalizing of Abigail Litle, and William Litle.

Apothecaries.

L. 1. An Act for Incorporating the Apothecaries of London, and within Seven Miles.

Edwards.

Committee for the Bill of Edwards: - Counsel assigned; Serjeant Thynne, Mr. Hugh Pyne, and Mr. Moore.

Butchers.

L. 1. An Act to restrain Butchers from grasing of Cattle.

Fisher's Estate.

L. 2. Sir Edward Fisher his Bill: - Committed to Mr. Brereton, Mr. Booth, Knights, Burgesses Norfolke, Sir Eubele Theloall, Sir Henry Poole, Sir Rob. Philips, Sir Natha. Rich, Sir Clem. Throckmorton, Mr. Snelling, Sir Edw. Peyton, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Mr. Selden, Sir Fra. Barrington, Sir Tho. Estcourt: - Thursday next, Two Clock, Court of Wards. All Parties to have Notice.

Ly. Darcey.

A Petition, from the Lady Darcy, read ; to have Serjeant Ashley assigned her for Counsel. - Ordered.

Courts of Justice.

Sir Rob. Philips reports from Committee for Courts of Justice. - The Committee desire another Day, to sit; and to have a Committee appointed, to see what may be done, to prevent the irregular Proceedings of Courts of Justice.

Resolved, The Committee for Courts of Justice shall have Saturday Afternoon allowed them to sit.

Sir Edw. Cooke, Mr. Selden, Mr. Alford, Sir Dud. Digs, Sir Hen. Poole, Sir Jo. Stradling, Sir Fra. Barrington, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Jo. Danvors, Sir James Perrot, Mr. Drake, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Attorney Wards, Sir Eub. Theloall, Mr. Noy, Sir Edw. Peyton, Sir Geo. Chudleigh, Sir Edw. Gyles, Mr. Denny, Sir Rob. Philips, Mr. Whitakers, Mr. Wentworth, Mr. Pym, Sir Tho. Lucy, Sir Pet. Hayman, Mr. Wainsford: These are appointed to view the Petitions exhibited to the Committee for Courts of Justice; and to agree upon some Course, to regulate the Inconveniences they shall find: And are to meet every Morning, at Seven of the Clock, in the Star-chamber.

Monopolies.

Sir Edw. Cooke reports from the Conference with the Lords, about the Bill of Monopolies. - A Matter of 17 Exceptions; as many, as to the Bill of Informers the last Parliament. - Found no Fault with the Body of the Bill: But divers Scruples. - Collatio peperit, et perficit, artes. - Lord President said, they conceived Five Scruples: 1. We had declared all Monopolies void; and then divers Savings: Which the Judges thought of small Effect. A Saving to a Law declarative, of no Effect. Answered Two Ways: 1. This no Saving: A Provision : - A great Difference between them. - Not meant to make them good, but to keep them out of the Penalty of this Law. 2d Point was depending on this.

- Satisfied in that, if this did hold. 3d was a dainty Exception: - If any Man shall stay a Suit against these Monopolies, he shall run into a Praemunire. - A good Defence against all Messages and Letters whatsoever. - An End of that. - A Proviso, to except new Manufactures. To have a Time of Privilege for them. They say, this restrained too much. - " Against Law, mischievous to the State, or Trade, or otherwise inconvenient:" - King's Book had all these Limitations. A new Invention is that which brings that to the Commonwealth they had not before. An Addition to an old Invention, no new, but a new Button to an old Cloak. -

Then came to Corporations. The King's Power, they said, quite taken away. Ans. If a Corporation, for the better Government of the Town, not contrary to the Law; but, if any sole Restraint, then gone. Then they would have had a Description of a Monopoly in the Bill. Ans. Definitions, in Law, dangerous; yet well described in the Bill. Another Exception, that the Judge in great Danger: An Action may be brought, and they not know upon what. - Answered that fully: That the Action is grounded upon the Common Law, and not the Statute; and the Words, " An Action grounded upon this Statute." - Another Exception: But One Imparlance. Answ. The Court Power to give Day. If the Monopo' beyond Sea, then appear by Attorney. Lord Arundell took a material Exception: Some Things, provided for in the Bill, may prove Monopolies hereafter, upon Trials. Answ. At his own Peril be it, if he exercise it after overthrown. Then the King's Attorney excepted : - The King hath 12d. upon a Chaldron, of the Ostmen of New-castle, incorporated by Queen Eliz. She dispensed with all their Forfeitures: In Consideration hereof, they granted her, and her Successors, 12 d. upon a Chaldron.

- Thinks, this a Contract, no Monopoly: If a Monopoly, let it fall. Then, for the Salt-peter-man; would have him under no Government, but of the State, being a Purveyance. Answ. No Reason, but Actions may be brought against the Abuse. - Would have Powder and Shot put in: Thought it reasonable. - Then, for Alom ; would not have that put into the Bill, as for the King's own Use. Answ. It is best, as it was before. - Then, for Printing: - Prerogative of all Kings to grant Licence of Printing of such and such Books. Answ. We are governed by a Municipal Law. King cannot give the Selling of Austin to One Man, and Ambrose to another. Two Universities have Power of Printing all Books.

Then, to the Office of Subpoenas; that, they say, hath had a Continuance: Desired a Provision for that. Answ.

These sole writing and making of Writs hath spoiled all the Clerks of England. These inconvenient. Either Monopolies, or no Monopolies: If Monopolies, the King's Book hath decried them. Sole making of Alias Capias could not be granted, nor the sole making of Latitats. -

Mr. Maxwell, a Transportation of Calve Skins. Answ. He not within the Law: A Dispensation with a penal Law. - Then said, there were divers other Petitions, which they had read. - Delivered to him, to be considered of. 1. Sir Rob. Mansill: 2. Of Sir Rich. Young, the sole ingrossing of some Letters Patents: 3ly, A Petition of Doctor Chambers, about Sheriffs Accounts. - Conclusion was moved, to have a Sub-committee, not to alter the Body of the Bill, but to add some convenient Provisions, that may further the Passage of the Bill.

Sir Rob. Philips: - The Subpoena Office utterly taken away by this Bill. - Thinks, not so intended by us at first. - A great deal of Reason why it should not be so.

1. Not prejudicial to the Subject: Never complained of, though Eleven Parliaments past: Established 60 Years, - To have a Saving for this Particular.

Sir Eub. Theloall: - This Office had his Beginning but in 17 of the Queen. Lord of Lester begged it, for his Servants, from the Clerks.

Sir Wal. Earle desires to know, whether these Officers take not more Fees, than were wont to be taken. - To have this considered of. - There had wont to be Four Names put into a Subpoena; he hears, now but Two.

Sir Edw. Cooke: - To have those Patents seen, and considered of, before any Thing be done.

To-morrow in the Morning, Eight Clock, these Patents to be brought in, to be considered of by the whole House. -

Sir Rich. Young, and the Patent for the Subpoena Office, and Sir Rob. Mansill, and Dr. Chambers; or else the Enrollment of them in the Chancery.

Mr. Mallory: - One Chambers, of the Temple, hath a Lease from the King, for 21 Years, of all the Fines and Amerciaments that shall be set by the Clerk of the Market. He himself a Deputy. - To have him ordered to attend this Afternoon, with his Patent. - Ordered.

Usury.

Doctor Googe reports the Bill of Usury. -

Re-committed: - Presently, Committee Chamber.

Weye River.

Knights, Burgesses of Woster, Warwicke, and Salop, and the Ports, added to the Committee of the Bill for the River of Weye; Sir Guy Palmes, and Mr. Mallory.

Trade.

Sir Edwyn Sandys reports from the Committee for Trade. - Petitions from the Cloth-workers, and Dyers. The Cloth-workers complained against the Merchant

Adventurers, for not setting of them on Work. The Lords of the Council ordered, that they should have the Dressing of One in Ten, of Cloths transported. They complain, this is not performed. - (To have an Order here to the Merchant Adventurers, to require them to perform that Order, or else shew Cause to the House to the contrary. - )

2ly, The Dyers had another Petition; complaining of a Patent for dying Stuff, for Ginny and Binny, granted to Sir Will. St. John. - (The Committee thought fit to have this Patent called in, to be seen) - By this Means the Materials of Dying enhanced to a very great Price. - A great Complaint also against the Dyers, by the Committee themselves. - Use their Trade in such a Sort, as intolerable. In dying black Silk, gain half in half. Committee desired to have a Message sent to the Lord Mayor, to have him take this into his Consideration, as proper for his Government. - A Bill in this House, for Enlargement of Trade; a Bill passed in 1 Jac. - To give Order that a Copy of it may be had from the Clerk of the Upper House.

Sir Edw. Villiers: - The Fault more in the Silk Men, than the Dyers. They make them dye it so - To have that considered of too.

Mr. Noy: - To have the Bonds, Orders, and Proceedings of the Exchequer, sought out.

Resolved, upon Question, That the Merchant Adventurers shall perform the Order, or else shew Cause to the contrary.

Ordered, That Sir Will. St. John shall bring in his Patent to the Committee of Trade, To-morrow in the Afternoon.

Resolved, That a Message shall be sent to the Lord Mayor, to take into Consideration the Abuse of the Silk Dyers, for heavy-dyed Silk.

Resolved, A Copy of the Bill for free Trade, of 1 Jacobi, shall be procured from the Clerk of the Lords House.

Resolved, That the Bonds, Orders, and Proceedings of the Exchequer, concerning heavy-dyed Silk, shall be brought to the Committee for Trade, to be perused.

Usury.

Sir Edw. Coke reports the Bill of Usury. The Amendments twice read. - Ordered, To be ingrossed.

Lumley's Estate.

Mr. Whatman reports Sir Rich. Lumley his Bill. - One Letter left out.

Resolved, He shall present this Amendment, in Writing, To-morrow, to be sent up to the Lords.

Ingrossed Bills.

Ingrossed Bills to be read To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock.