House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 24 February 1624

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In this section

Martis, 24o Februarii

Member electeth.

SIR Edward Howard, double-returned, electeth to serve for Cawne, in Wiltshire.

Burlomacchi.

L. 1a. An Act for the Naturalizing of PhilipBurlomacchi.

Van de Put's Nat.

L. 1a. An Act for the Naturalizing of Giles Van de Put, of London, Merchant.

Trade.

Sir Edw. Coke moves, to husband Time. - Great Want in the Realm; a Want of that, which is the Life of the Kingdom ; Trade, and Commerce. - The Want of Vent of native Commodities. This brings another Want, of Money: That begets a Disvaluation of all our native

Commodities. - As in the natural Body, so in the politique: When that inclines to a Consumption, Two Medicines; medicina removens, and promovens, - An excellent Parliament Work now, to remove Impediments. -

28 Ed. III. Exche. Reme. - The Exportation then three times as much as the Importation: Now the Importation far exceeds the Exportation. - This medicina removens. - To have a select Committee for this Business.

Sir Geo. Moore: - To have some of them, that have already taken Pains in it, be of this Committee.

Mr. Neale: - This Business already much laboured in. The Reasons of the Decay of Trade given the last Convention. The Monopolizing of Trade the main Cause. A Precedent, worth the looking on: - A Handful of the World, Holland; that have neither Wool, nor Cloth, nor few other Commodities. - Two Charters, great Hindrances to Trade: 1. The Merchant Adventurers : The 2d, the East-land Company of London. - To have it ordered, these Two Patents to be brought in.

Mr. Comptroller : - Such his Majesty's indulgent Care for this Business, he hath appointed a Committee for it.

Sir Will. Cope : - This Committee to take Care that the Poor of the Country may have some Provision for them.

Mr. Sherwood: - To have this Committee to enquire of the Charge, that is upon Trade.

This Business referred to a Committee of the whole House. Thursday to be the Day; and so every Thursday, in the House.

Abuses in Exchequer.

Mr. Wild: - To have a select Committee, for Examination of the Abuses of the Exchequer.

Monopolies.

L. 1a. An Act concerning Monopolies, and Dispensation with penal Laws, and the Forfeitures thereof.

Penal Statutes.

L. 1a. An Act for the Ease of the Subject, concerning Informations upon penal Statutes.

Only Members to be admitted at Conference.

Mr. Alford moveth, to send to my Lord Chamberlain, to take Order, that none be admitted to the Conference, but Members of that House ; and the Serjeant of this House to take the like Care for the Members of this House.

Ordered, That Two shall go to my Lord High Chamberlain, and Lord Marshal, Sir Will. Herbert and Mr. Alford to . . the Men.

Process, &c.

L. 1a. An Act to prevent and punish the Abuses, in procuring Process, and Supersedeas, for the Peace and good Behaviour, out of his Majesty's Courts at Westminster ; and to prevent the Abuses, in procuring Writs of Certiorari out of the said Courts, for the removing of Indictments, found before Justices of the Peace in their general Sessions.

Conference.

A Message from the Lords, by the King's Attorney, and Serjeant Finch. -

The Lords signify, that, whereas both Houses did agree, Yesterday, of a Meeting, and the Place to be the Painted Chamber; they, taking into Consideration the Weight of the Business, and the Straitness of the Room, think fit, if it may stand with the Liking of this House, to alter the Place and to have it at Whitehall, in the Hall, which is already scaffolded: And the Prince his Highness hath offered, as Occasion serves, to assist my Lord Admiral in the Relation.

Answer: This House doth return Thanks to the Lords, for their Care of the Ease and Conveniency of this House : They willingly accept of the Place offered ; and shall all be very glad to hear the Prince, as Occasion shall serve.

Only Members to be admitted at Conference.

Ordered, That Mr. Treasurer and Mr. Comptroller shall take Care, that none be admitted to this Conference, but the members of this House : And the Serjeant also to attend.

Ordered, upon Question, That every Man shall bring his Name, in Writing, and the Place, for which he serves. The Serjeant to receive, the Names.

Fishing.

Mr. Neale presents to the House a Bill for the Liberty of Fishing.

Recusants.

L. 1a. An Act for Explanation of a Branch of the Statute, made in the Third Year of the King's Majesty's Reign of England, intituled, An Act for the better Discovering and Repressing of Popish Recusants.

Sunday.

L. 2d. An Act for punishing divers Abuses committed on the Lord's Day, commonly called Sunday. Upon Question, not be committed. Ordered, upon Question, To be ingrossed.

Swearing.

L. 2d. An Act to prevent and reform profane Swearing and Cursing. -

Upon Question, not to be committed.

Ordered, upon Question, To be ingrossed.

Concealments.

L. 2d. An Act for the general Quiet of the Subject, against all Pretences of Concealment whatsoever. -

Sir Edw. Coke: - The Subjects had better give the King a continual Subsidy, than be vexed with these Concealers, and Informers. - Few Men here, but have had a Ticket to the pretended Owners. - Not slept well that Night: - Made him have a Qualm, when all his Living shall be called in Question.

Committed to all the Privy Council of the House, Sir Edw. Coke, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Whitfeild, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Carvill, Mr. Wentworth, Mr. Glanvile, Serjeant Towse, Sir Geo. Moore, Mr. Pym, Mr. Banks : - To-morrow Morning, Seven a Clock, Court of Wards.

Member electeth.

Mr. Hollis electeth to serve for East Retford, in Nottinghamshire. electeth.

Motion for admitting a Member.

SIR Rob. Philips moves for Sir Francis Popham, to have him admitted into the House.

Mr. Pym, - against it, - Would have him in, but by a fair Means. - The Injustice of a Law, and a Rule, greater than the Injustice of a Judge : The One transitory, the other permanent. - If no Exception to the Return, the House to have accepted it; but now a contentious Jurisdiction. - If he be received here, we determine the Right of Election.

Mr. Mallory; - This more proper for a Committee of Privileges. - To have him admitted into the House in the mean time.

Doctor Googe: - No Injustice to keep him out of the House. For Matter of Precedent, Experience leads the contrary. Last Convention, Exception taken against Sir Tho. Wentworth: - Moved, to have him forbear the House: Yet the House resolved otherwise. Whatsoever true in the Case of a Sheriff, true also in the Case of a Bailiff. Only now in Question, whether this Gentleman should hold his Right, till the Case be determined. - To have him admitted.

Sir Geo. Moore: - To have our Words pauca, vera, et ponderosa. - Here Two Returns; of the Bailiff and Sheriff.

- Until a Complaint of the Inhabitants, no Reason to except against the Gentleman ; but to receive him.

Sir Edw. Gyles: - A Petition ready from the Town : Therefore not fit to admit -

Sir Dud. Digges: - When a Return come, a Record. To go against it, to wrong the House. - His own Case. - To have this Particular, with all Expedition, examined by the Committee.

Chancellor Duchy: - This not the same Case. Here a double Return: Therefore not to be admitted.

Sir Hen. Poole: - No Prejudice, by admitting him. - Not to spend more Time in it.

Ordered, upon Question, That this Business shall be referred to the Committee of Privileges.

Restoring Boroughs.

Sir Will. Fleetwood moves for Three Boroughs in Buckinghamshire, - Ancient Records for them, that they have sent Burgesses.

Sir Geo. Moore, accordant. - Divers Petitions, the last Parliament, from divers Towns, to be restored to their ancient Right of sending Burgesses. Two Towns then restored. Then ordered by the House, that Mr. Solicitor should be One of the Committee to view the Charters,

and report to the House. - To have it again referred to the Committee. - Ordered,

Election Petitions, &c.

Mr. Alford propounds Two : - To make this Order, to have all Men prefer their Petitions within a Fortnight: And to have a Bill of Elections proceeded with. The Clerk to look it up.

Sir Henry Poole prefers a Bill for Elections.

Ordered, upon Question, That all Petitions, concerning Elections and Returns, shall be preferred to the Committee of Privileges, within a Fortnight from this Day, or else to be silenced for this Session : And this to extend to Returns past: But other to have a Fortnight after the Return.

Journal.

Sir James Perrott: - To have a Committee named, for the Examination of the Clerk's Book every Saturday Afternoon. -

Sir Henry Poole, Sir James Perrot, Sir Nath. Rich, Mr. Mallory, Sir Will. Fleetwood, Mr. Pym, Mr. Alford, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Fra. Seymour: - Saturday Afternoon, to examine the Clerk's Book of Entries: These, or any Four of them : - Committee Chamber, Saturday seven-night to be the first Day.

Imprisonment.

L. 1a. An Act for the better Securing of the Subjects, from wrongful Imprisonment, and Deprivation of their Trades and Occupations, contrary to the 29th Chapter of the Statute of Magna Charta.

Hospitals,&c.

L. 1a. An Act for the Reviving, and Making perpetual, of One Act, made in the 39th Year of the Reign of the late Queen Eliz. intituled, An Act for Erecting of Hospitals, and Abiding and Working-houses for the Poor.

American Fishing.

L. 1a. An Act for the freer Liberty of fishing, and Fishing-voyages, to be made and performed in the Sea-coasts and Places of Newfound-land, Virginia, New England, and other the Sea-coasts and Parts of America.

Concealments.

Mr. Glandvile : - To have a new Day for the Bill of Concealments : And some other to be added.

All the Lawyers of the House added to this Committee:

- This Afternoon, Exchequer Chamber, Two a Clock.

Grievances.

Mr. Neale: - Five Ships of Plimouth under Arrest ; One out of Dartmouth; cause this went to New England a fishing: - By Warrant from the Admiralty. - To have those Suits stayed, till this Bill have had his Passage. -

This by Sir Ferdinando Gorge his Patent.

Ordered, That this Patent shall be brought in to the Committee of Grievances, on Friday next

Limitation of Actions.

L. 2a. An Act for Limitation of Actions, and for avoiding Suits in Law.

Ordered, upon Question, To be ingrossed.

Patents.

The Committee of Grievances to take into Consideration the Patents questioned, or damned, the last Meeting in Parliament; and whether any of those have been since set a foot, or any other of like Nature; and by whom. And the Persons to be sent for, to attend the Committee.

Drunkenness.

L. 1a. An Act for the Repressing of Drunkenness, and Restraining the inordinate Haunting of Inns.

Courts.

Inferior Courts, to be prepared against To-morrow.

Recusants.

L. 2a. An Act for the Explanation of a Branch of a Statute, made in the third Year of the King's Majesty's Reign of England, intituled, An Act for the better Discovering and Repressing of Popish Recusants. -

Sir Edwin Sands: - Necessary to commit this Bill.

Sir Ed. Coke : - Discors concordia legibus apta est. - Likes well to have this so well sifted.

Upon Question, not to be committed.

Ordered, To be ingrossed.

Sir Edw. Coke, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Tho. Trevor, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Pym, Mr. Solicitor, to peruse it, after it is ingrossed (they, or any Two of them) and to compare it with the former Copy.

Recusants.

Sir Will. Strode; - To have a Message to the Lords, to desire them to join in a Petition to the King, to banish all Recusants the Town, by Proclamation, during the Treaty of this Business; and that, if any Member of this House have any Servants Recusants, to discharge them ; or if any Protection given to any such -

Sir Ro. Philips seconds the Motion. - To do it speedily and presently.

Ordered, That if any Member of this House have any Servant, that is a Popish Recusant, or refuses to go to Church, and hear divine Service, he shall presently discharge him. This to be under Pain of Sequestration of the House [a].

Mr. Recorder: - If any other, out of the like Affection, shall make the like Motion, it shall be done but by special Allowance of the House, upon publick Motion.

Ordered, That no Man shall be allowed to keep a Recusant Servant, but by special Allowance of the House, upon public Motion in the House.

Sir John Jepson desires Leave to send a Servant of his to his House. - Hath the Son and Heir of the Provost of Munster, who a great Papist: - Hath brought him to London. Desires Leave to send him home.

Sir Tho. Jermyn : - To have those Gentlemen, that go to the Lords, have this Commission, to intimate to them, what Course we have taken for our Servants here.

Sir Dud. Digges; - To have something presently done, to discountenance the Papists.

Sir Walter Earle: - At our last Meeting, Five Articles presented to his Majesty, concerning Popish Recusants :

1. The Banishing of them this Town: 2ly, Disarming of them : . . . -

Dissents from having it done by Proclamation. - That is to chalk out the King his own Way.

Agreed, upon Question, to send, To-morrow Morning, a Message to the Lords, upon these Two Points : 1. Of banishing Popish Priests : . . . .

Mr. Treasurer, Mr. Comptroller, Sir Edw. Coke, Sir Rob. Philips, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Dud. Diggs, Mr. Brooke, Mr. Dyatt, Chancellor Duchy, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Fra. Seymour, Sir Tho. Jermyn, Sir Will. Strode, Sir Edwyn Sands: These are appointed to meet at Two a Clock, and to set down, in Writing, the Message, that shall be sent To-morrow to the Lords : - Court of Wards; - These, or any Six of them. This Committee also to take into Consideration, the Intimating of our Order for Discharge of Servants Recusants.

Mr. Dyatt: - A great Insolency committed by a Popish Recusant, stiling himself the Bishop of Calcedon. - Came, not privately, but in a publick - Confirmed about the Number of 400 in Three Houses, and changed the Name of Baptism. This the Papists much boasted of. He, that did this, well known to this House by Fame : - Doctor Bishop. - Six Chaplains, and his Mitre, and Robes.

Mr. Brooke: - Other Reasons to send this Message to the Lords, than their Insolency. - Play the Fox, as well as the Lion: Do what they can, to disturb the Peace of the Parliament. This Titulary Bishop hath Power to make Seminary Priests in England; and so defeat the Law, that makes it Treason for them to come into the Land,

Mr. Wentworth: - All Seminary Priests Traitors. This Land therefore full of Traitors, and Treason. - To have a Touch of this to the Lords.

Members make Election.

Mr. Chancellor Duchy, double returned, electeth to Members serve for Lester.

Sir Will. Poole electeth to serve for Sudbury in Suffolke.