House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 14 February 1607

Saturni, 14o Februarii, 1606

Time of meeting, &c.

AN Order moved, and settled, that the House should assemble every Day at Eight a Clock, and enter into the great Business at Nine.

Union with Scotland.

The Article of the Instrument concerning Naturaliza tion, was read.

Mr. Fuller beginneth the Dispute, and continueth a long Speech against general Naturalization, &c. -

God hath made People apt for every Country; some for a cold, some for a hot Climate; and the several Countries he hath fitted for their several Natures and Qualities. -

All Grounds be not fit for One kind of Grain : Some for Oats, some for Wheat. -

One Man is Owner of Two Pastures, with one Hedge to divide them ; the One Pasture bare, the other fertile and good : A wise Owner will not pull down the Hedge , quite, but make Gates, and let them in and out, &c. If he do, the Cattle will rush in in Multitudes, and much against their Will return. -

This Union is no more but as Two Arms of One Body. -

Before we admit them, consider what Place and Room we have for them. -

Look in the Universities; there many of our own, very worthy, not preferred. -

In London, see what the Bill of Inmates doth provide for; and remember what was opened to the House, upon the Reading of that Bill.

Amongst Merchants already, no Success, no Fruit, these Three Years: - Labour, travel, provide, all that they can. -

Our Traders too many already. - Impositions upon English, Scotts discharged. -

Our Merchants adventure, and go to Sea with great Vessels, furnished; - great Charge: They with little Bottoms; - little Charge: - Carry their Wares in other Countries up and down in Packs: - By this means have taken away all the Trade of Diep already. -

The Navy of Scotland is ad misericordiam to every mean Force.- -

The Care of a sovereign Prince is, that his Subjects live under him, honeste, tute, pacifice, et jucunde. -

That Kingdom miserable, where the rich Men are exceeding rich, the poor Men exceeding poor; - no Mean, no Proportion. -

Tenants of Two Manors whereof the One hath Woods, Fishings, Liberties, Common of Estovers, &c. the other a bare Common, without Profit; only a little Turf, &c. -

The Owner maketh a Grant, that the Tenants of that shall be participant of the Profits, &c. of the former. - This beareth some Shew of Equity; but plain Wrong, and the Grant void. -

The King cannot make a Village Parcel of another County: - Cannot make Parcel of One Kingdom Part of another, being distinct Kingdoms. -

Law, the Happiness of our Government: Commissions of absolute Power, Occasions of absolute Wrong.

The King can what he may do by his legal Power. -

13 H. IV. an Office of Measuring of Cloth granted with a Fee imposed : - Not just, and adjudged void. -

Sir Edw. Darcye's Case, for Sealing of Cards. -

The King's Oath, not to do against the Law: - Magna Charta, fol. 164. -

A Protection granted for Three Years by the King, not good: - For One Year, the King may. -

If King Philip had had a Son by Queen Mary, he had been King of Spaine, Sicilia, &c. had it been fit to naturalize those Subjects? -

It shall not be good to mingle Two Swarms of Bees under one Hive, upon a sudden.

When the Jewes were in Captivity, and were moved to Mirth, and to sing Songs, they said, they could not forget Jerusalem ; - " Let their Right Hand forget their Left," &c. -

Abraham and Lot were Brethren: Abraham said, " Go thou to the Right Hand, and I will go to the left," &c. And so they divided, and either took that Part was fittest for him.

Union with Scotland.

Sir John Crook and Mr. D. Hone come in Message from the Lords; viz.

That their Lordships, having entered into Consideration of the great Pains that hath already been taken, thought good now to put this House in Remembrance of the Two Points last handled; viz. the Matter of Hostility, and of Commerce; and to propound unto them, that as well for those as for the Matter of Naturalization, there might be a Renewing of Conference between them ; and that, (if they thought fit, and were so prepared) it might be on Monday next, at Two a Clock in the Afternoon, by the former Committees, in the same Place.

The Messengers retired to the Door; and it was disputed, what, when, and how, to make Answer; And it was conceived as a Rule:

Sending Answer Lords.

When we yield, then we might send Answer by such Messengers as came from the Lords; if not, then to send by our own.

Question made, whether we should send by our own Messengers: -

Resolved, to send by our own.

Answer made to the Messengers, that we would send by our own Messengers.

A Message sent [a], that they were not ready to send Answer to their Lordships; but, so soon as they could be ready, they would send.