Martis, 24o Aprilis, 1610

Keere's Nat.

L. 2. - SIR Geo. Keere - Nat. &c. - Mr. Hoskins, Sir Rich. Spencer, Mr. Hare, Sir Tho. Smyth, Sir Geo. Rivers, Mr. Martin, Sir Nich. Halswell, Sir Nich. Saunders, Sir Edw. Francis, Sir Mich. Hicks, Sir Nath. Bacon, Sir H. Poole, Mr. James, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir H. Nevill, Sir Rich. Paulett, Sir Jo. Mallorie . - Tomorrow Morning.

Murray's Nat.

L. 2. - Murray - Nat. - Referred to the same Committee.

Ecclesiastical Canons.

Canons ecclesiastical, - reported by Mr. Fuller: - Ingrossetur.

Grievances.

Committee for Grievances.

Arundell.

L. 2. - Mr. Arundell. -

Counsel heard.

Mr. Gerard, Mr. Styrrell, of Counsel with the Petitioner :

Mr. Richison against it.

In this Case, because the Petitioner desired to have Counsel heard, the Counsel for the Plaintiff to be heard in this Case first. - Opens the Bill.

Mr. Richison, against the Bill.

The Counsel retired.

Mr. Moore, contra.

Sir Herbert Crofts qualifies the Point of further Assurance.

Sir Wm. Strowd, pro.

Mr. Noy: - The Bill unfit, because this a Decree said against Law; and sheweth not wherein.

The Bill, upon a Double Question, rejected.

Fens.

Fens, - adjourned to Monday next.

Grievances.

Grievances, - all this Week. - All other Committees to be put off.

This Afternoon to begin, and all the Lawyers to attend specially; - as a Time appointed for the greatest Matters.

Ecclesiastical Grievances.

Sir Dudley Diggs continueth the Dispute touching the silenced Ministers. -

To have the Names of such Ministers, as we desire to be relieved, to be set down by way of Petition, and not of Grievance.

Sir Rich. Spencer: - That he sees no Reason, but, without Offence to God, or to their own Consciences, they may subscribe.

Sir Francis Hastings: - That the Word Grievance any be suppressed ; and a Petition humbly for all Four.

Mr. Carleton : - Peccant honesta mente. -

Not to teach his Majesty artem regnandi. -

Not to count it a Grievance, what was done more majorum. -

Not a Grievance which is grounded upon a Law. - Like to run upon all these Rocks in this. -

In mediis ad fidem, a Man may be forced; - ad fidem, he cannot be forced -

To desire some Relief for the Ministers; not to have them restored.

Sir Herbert Crofts: - That the Petition is well framed: - That the Word Grievance be suppressed.

Mr. Yelverton - in answer of all Objections. -

A Promise made, for some Ministers deprived without Law or Canon, not yet performed by the Bishops. - To have it preferred by way of Petition.

Sir Wm. Paddye. -

Q. Whether the Substance of the second Article shall, by a Petition, be offered to the King: - Not in the same Frame, but to be further considered on.