House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 12 May 1624

Mercurii, 12o Maii

Bills.

ORDERED, No more Bills shall be received this Session, without Order of the House.

Felt-makers.

Mr. Whitaker reporteth the Felt-makers Bill, with Amendments ; which twice read. - Ingrossetur.

Somervyle's Estate.

.... at the Bar, testified, in Somervyle's Case, that he came to Tho. Somervyle; who went to his Brothers, and spake with them (for they would not be spoken with by him) and spake with the Lady; and that she saw the Order; and the younger Brothers (as Tho. Somervyle told him) said they would not come.

Resolved, This a sufficient Warning; and the Committee to proceed, their not coming notwithstanding.

Privilege.- Felt-makers.

A Petition from the Felt-makers, read. -

Ordered, The Felt-makers, imprisoned in the Fleete, shall be presently enlarged by the Warden of the Fleete, for Prosecution of their Bill, till the same be determined by both Houses. And the Committee for Privileges to

take into their Consideration, whether any of the former Proceedings, in arresting the Felt-makers, during their Attendance upon this Court, have impeached their Privilege of this House, and to make Report thereof to the House.

Lady Darcye.

Mr. Gewyn reporteth the Lady Darcy's Bill, with Amendments ; which twice read. - Engrossetur.

Tythes for Lead Ore.

Mr. Wyld reporteth the Bill concerning Tythes for Lead Ore. -

Upon the first Question, not to be engrossed.

Upon the second, to be rejected.

Foreign Pensions.

L. 2a. An Act against Receiving of any secret Pensions from any Prince, or State. -

Sir Edw. Coke: - Can shew Precedents of Punishment, for taking Pensions from foreign Princes, though in League with the King, without the Privity of the Prince. -

Committed to Mr. Comptroller, Sir Ed. Coke, Mr. Rich. Spencer, Sir Guy Palmes, Sir H. Poole, Mr. Wm. Strowde, Sir Geor. Chudleighe, Sir Ro. Phillippes, Mr. Litton, Sir Jo. Scudamore, Sir Edw. Peyton, Sir Ro. Cooke, Sir P. Hayman, Sir Ro. Mansell, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Jo. Stradling, Sir Tho. Escort, Mr. Mynne, Mr. Brooke, Mr. Noye, Sir Geor. More, Sir Ed. Cecill, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Tho. Denton, Sir Ch. Mountagew, Sir D. Digges: - Court of Ward's, To-morrow, Two Clock.

Fleete Prison.

The Report for the Fleete, - upon Friday next.

Recusants.

Sir Tho. Hobby reporteth the Certificate about Recusants in Charge, or Trust. - Two Heads, in Two Writings: 1. Of such, as such themselves: 2. Of those, which have Wives, Children, &c. And those of Two Parts: 1. Of those, which do their best to reclaim them.

Resolved, That such, as have Wives Recusants, or that educated their Children well, and, being grown of Years, are fallen to Popery, and themselves sincere in Religion, and their younger Children well educated, and their Servants come to Church, shall be spared from being certified.

Sir Edw. Coke: - To ground this upon the Statute of 3o. Jac. (convict being a Circumstance) having a Wife a Recusant, shall bear any Office or Charge, or Trust: - Having now few convicted. - A Bull from the Pope, for any Man to go to Church, ad redimend' vexationem, et performand' externam obedientiam, so as his Wife, or Heir Apparent, be a Recusant.

Sir Cl. Throckmorton: - A Protestant of State worse than a professed Papist. The last looked to be the State, not the other.

Resolved, None shall be spared, that are certified here, but such, as are sincere in Religion, and that their Children and Servants, under their Government, are well educated, or come to Church.

Sir Tho. Hobby: - That the Committee thinketh fit, the Earl of Worcester be spared, because hath no Children in his House, or Servant, but goeth to Church. - Resolved, he shall be spared.

Dispute about my Lord of Wallingford, who, having a Recusant to his Wife, doth himself, and his Servants come to Church, with all Zeal. The Doubt, because Sir Francis Stoner is his Deputy Lieutenant. But answered, he was not so made by him: And thereupon Resolved, He shall be spared.

Lord of Northampton, having only a Daughter, married from him, that is a Recusant, but no Wife, or Servant, but good Protestants, to be spared.

Sir Rich. Weston, whose Wife goeth to Church, but receiveth not the Communion, and hath no Child, or Servant, Recusant: - Resolved, to spare him.

Upon long Debate, Resolved, the Certificate against the Lord Scrope shall stand.

Sir Wm. Herberte to be spared: So Sir J. Perrott: So Sir Edw. Frauncis. All the rest left to the Committee.

The former Committee to nominate a Sub-committee, to pen a Preamble for this Petition; and to be presented to the House To . . Morning. Mr. Solicitor added to the former Committee, and Sir Ed. Coke, if not in before.

Resolved, No Man to move any Man here, that doth it not first to the Committee this Day.

Somervylle.

Sir Wm. Somervyle's Bill, - To-morrow in the Afternoon.

Adjournment.

Mr. Speaker coming into his Chair, the Committee adjourned till the Afternoon, Three Clock. And the Speaker to be here at Two : And all Committees to cease this Afternoon.

Mercurii, 12o Maii. Post Meridiem.

Committees.

ALL particular Committees revived, to be To-morrow.

Limitation of Actions.

The Amendments, and Proviso, which came from the Lords, in the Bill of Limitation of Actions, twice read.

Call of the House.

Upon Question, Ordered, The House shall be called up on Wednesday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon.

Collection from Members.

Sir George Moore, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Ja. Perrott, Sir Wm. Boulstreade, Sir Jo. Savyle, Sir Ro. Pye: These Six, or any Four of them, appointed Treasurers, for Collection of 10s. of every Knight, and, of every Burgess, 5 s. to be disposed of, as the House shall appoint.

Subsidy.

Sir Edw. Sands: - That Mr. Solicitor may make his Report of that Point of the Bill of Subsidy, which concerneth the Treasurers.

Bennister.

The Bill for Bennister, to be on Friday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon.