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Veneris, 5o Augusti
Communicants.
EXCETER College Chapel appointed for the Communicants on Sunday next.
Election Petitions.
All Petitions, about Elections, to be respited, till further Order of the House.
Supply.
Mr. Whystler: - In respect of the Danger of the Plague here, to desire a Conference with the Lords, whether they know the Weight of the Action in hand, for the War, such as is beyond our Danger.
Sir Geor. More: - To resolve first here, what we think fit, e'er we go to the Lords.
Sir Jo. Danvers moveth, the Capita of the Speeches may be set down; that we may know the Ground we go upon.
Sir S. Weston : - To know the Cause of the Supply desired, and the Enemy, against whom the Preparations destinated ; and, that the Papists Estates, who contribute to our Enemies, may be specially respected, to supply the King.
Sir Francis Seymor, Mr. Chancellor Duchy, Mr. Treasurer : - Two Subsidies, Two Fifteens.
Sir Ro. Phillippes moveth a select Committee, to draw a Petition to his Majesty, comprehending the Heads of all those Things, whereof the House shall think fit to inform his Majesty.
Mr. Chancellor Exchequer: - Two Subsidies, Two Fifteens : For that less will not serve for the present Occasion.
Sir Edw. Coke: - Necessitas affectata, invincibilis, et improvida, Invincibilis, aut inevitabilis, breaketh all Laws and Orders. If our Necessity by Improvidence, then that no Cause to give. Neutralitas net amicos parit, net inimicos tollit. Commune periculum, commune auxilium.
No King can subsist in an honourable Estate, without Three Abilities: 1. To maintain himself against sudden Invasions: 2. To aid his Allies and Confederates : 3. To reward his well-deserving Servants. -
Medicina removens. - Divers Causes of the Leak: 1. Fraud, in Customs. By a Medium of Seven Years .... 2. The Treaty of the Spanish Match : 3. New-invented Offices, with large Fees. - 19o H. VII. and 22o H. VIII. new Offices retrenched. - Old unprofitable Offices; which the King may justly take away, with Law, Love of the People, and his own Honour. - Presidents of Yorke and Wales. - A President for the West refused by the West-couutry-men. -
Multiplicity of Offices in One Man. - Every Officer to live on his own Office. -
The King's Houshold out of Order. - New Tables make the Leak the greater. - Upstart Officers. -
The Retrenching of voluntary Annuities, a principal Means to stop this Leak. - A new Market of Pensions: These to be stopped, till the King out of Debt, and able to pay them. -
Unnecessary Charges: Portage Money, 12 d. in the Pound.
To petition the King, rather for a logique, than a rhetorique. Hand; a strait, than an open, Hand. - 4o H. IV. no Man to beg of the King, till he out of Debt. - Bray and Gwynn. -
Costly Diet, Apparel, Building, increase the Leak. -
Medicina promovens. - Multiplicity of Forests, and Parks, now a great Charge to the King, may be drawn to a great Benefit to the King. -
Ireland's Revenue: - 30,000l. per Annum Benefit to the King, in Ed. III. Time; now a great Charge. -
6o and 27 Ed. III. - The King's ordinary Charge to be borne by the King's ordinary Revenue. -
Moveth, a Committee, to set down these, and such other, Heads, as shall be offered.
Mr. Solicitor: - Wisheth we may petition the King, to declare the King of Spayne to be our Enemy, and that he hath done the Wrong, for which he hath done the Wrong; and to secure us from the Papists at home, whose Hearts are with the Spanyards, and are dangerous at home, whilst our Navy is abroad. - Two Subsidies, Two Fifteens, payable in October, and April come-twelvemonth.
Mr. Alford: - Is against Subsidies in Reversion. - A Committee, to consider of this.
Sir Geor. More: - Never Parliament engaged themselves. We all engaged by Duty. - Not to grant Subsidy upon Subsidy, in One Parliament. - A Committee.
Sir Wm. Strode, - against Subsidies in Reversion. - A Committee.
Sir Francis Nethersall: - That we engaged for Recovery of the Palatinate.
Sir Geor. Goring: - A Committee : And the Duke to be called to it; that he may give Satisfaction for any Aspersions, which shall be cast upon him.