House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 2 December 1689

Pages 299-300

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Lunæ, 2 die Decembris; 1° Gulielmi et Mariæ.


Restoration of Papers.

A PETITION of Nicholas Pigott, Esquire, was read; setting forth, That after Sir Wm. Waller had taken Mr. Rob. Brent, he seized a Trunk of Writings, wherein were several Deeds and Writings belonging to his Clients, and others; the which Trunk the Petitioner procured to be brought before a Committee of this House: And for that the Petitioner was intrusted with the Writings, in order to the delivering them to those to whom they belong, and praying the House would give Order, that such of the Papers and Writings as concern private Persons only, may be delivered to the Petitioner.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Williams, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Christy, Sir Mat. Andrews, do inspect the said Writings, and make a Schedule of them; and report the same to the House; to the end the House may give such further Order therein as may be fit.

Reversing Armstrong's Attainder.

A Bill to reverse the Attainder of Sir Thomas Armstrong was read the Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed, upon the Debate of the House, to Mr. Christy, Sir John Moreton, Sir Jos. Tredenham, Mr. White, Mr. H. Trenchard, Mr. Coryton, Sir John Guise, Mr. Niccollas, Mr. Dalben, Sir Tho. Barnadiston, Mr. H. Herbert, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Smith, Sir John Trenchard, Mr. Heyler, Mr. Hamden, Mr. Mansell, Sir John Lowther, Sir Wm. Langham, Sir Rob. Davers, Sir Cha. Rawleigh, Sir Rob. Sawyer, Mr. Hawles, Mr. Done, Sir Fra. Russell, Lord Fitzharding, Mr. Cooke, Sir Cha. Bloys, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Rob. Rich, Lord Commissioner Maynard, Mr. Colt, Sir Philip Skippon, Mr. Cognisby, Mr. Brewer, Mr. Buscawen, Sir Walter Young, Sir Wm. Leveson Gower, Mr. England, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Ellwell, Colonel Tipping, Mr. Pitts, Colonel Birch, Mr. Solicitor General: And they are to meet To-morrow, at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber, in the Afternoon: And they are to have Power to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

Supply Bill; collecting Revenue.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for the Continuance of collecting their Majesties' Revenue for one Year longer.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. James Herbert have Leave to go into the Country for a Week, upon urgent Business.

King appoints to be attended.

Mr. Comptroller acquaints the House, That he, according to their Order, had waited on his Majesty, to know his Pleasure, When he would be attended by this House, to give him Thanks for his gracious Message on Saturday last; his Majesty had appointed Three of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Banqueting House at Whitehall, to be attended accordingly.

Resolutions touching recommendation of persons to go to Ireland.

A Debate arising in the House upon his Majesty's said Message;

A Question was proposed, That this House doth not think fit to recommend any Member of this House to be employed in the Service of Ireland, according to his Majesty's gracious Message.

And a Debate arising thereupon:

The Question was put, That the Debate be adjourned.

And it passed in the Negative.

An Amendment being offered to be made to the said Question, by leaving out the Words, "Member of this House;"

And the Question being put, That those Words be left out of the Question:

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Sir Hen. Hobart, 128.
Colonel Tipping,
Tellers for the Noes, Sir Walter Young, 201.
Sir Fra. Drake,

So it passed in the Negative.

Other Amendments being offered to be made, by adding, after "Ireland," these Words, "for the Purposes expressed in;" and leaving out "according to;" and, after "Message," to add these Words, "of Saturday last;"

The same were, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Resolved, That this House doth not think fit to recommend any Member of this House to be employed in the Service of Ireland, for the Purposes expressed in his Majesty's gracious Message of Saturday last.

Resolved, That this House doth humbly desire to be excused from recommending any Persons to his Majesty, to be employed in the Service of Ireland: But humbly leave it to his Majesty's great Wisdom to nominate fit Persons for that Purpose.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do acquaint his Majesty with the said Resolution, when he presents the Thanks of the House to his Majesty.

Answer to Address.

Mr. Dalben acquaints the House, That the Committee appointed to present the Address to his Majesty, That he would please to let the House know, Who recommended Commissary Shales to his Majesty, and advised his being employed, had attended his Majesty therewith accordingly: And that his Majesty was pleased to give them this Answer:


It is impossible for Me to give you an Answer to This Question.


Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.

Supply Bill; Land Tax.

Resolved, That the House do, To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to proceed further upon the Bill for granting to their Majesties an Aid of Two Shillings in the Pound for One Year.

Leave for a Member to attend Lords.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Williams have Leave to attend the House of Lords, as Counsel in a Cause between Duvall and Edwards.

Privilege of a Member in a Suit.

Ordered, That Mr. St. Johns have Leave to wave his Privilege in a Suit in Chancery, between him and the Lady Wharton; if he think fit.