House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 25 April 1690

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 25 April 1690', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693, (London, 1802) pp. 388-390. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol10/pp388-390 [accessed 19 April 2024]

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Veneris, 25 die Aprilis; 2° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Late Q. Mary's Creditors.

A PETITION of several Artizans and Workmen, employed in fitting up Richmond House, was read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, in 1688, were employed in fitting up Richmond House for the late Queen Mary; for which there remains due to them Eleven hundred Sixty-three Pounds Eighteen Shillings and Three-pence Three-farthings: And the Petitioners being informed of a Bill lying before the House, to vest in their present Majesties the said late Queen's Estate; whereby, unless some Provision be made for them therein, the Petitioners will consequently lose their said Debts, and become thereby ruined: And praying the Consideration of the House in the Premises, and Relief therein.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill for vesting in their Majesties the Lands and Estate belonging to the Late Queen Mary, or any other in Trust for her, was committed.

Legrand's, &c. Nat.

Sir Jonathan Jennings reports from the Committee to whom the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for naturalizing David Legrand, and others, was recommitted, That they had agreed to the Bill, with some Amendments: Which he read in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards, delivered them in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read thoughout; and afterwards a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are as followeth; viz.

Press 1, Line 20, after "Holland," insert "John Doriies, Son of Nicholas Doriies, and Margaretha Shroders, born at Hamburgh; Henry Philip Kugelman, Son of Johan George Kugelman, and Sophia Elizebetha Menzer, born at Michaelstadt in Franconia; George Ludwitch Dunt, Son of George Dunt, and Sarah Howell, born at Revall in Livonia; Edward Broughton of Jamaica, Esquire, born at the Hague in Holland, Son of Edward Broughton, late of March Weild in the County of Denbeigh, Esquire, and Alice his Wife.

Line 36, after "Germaine," insert "John Doryes, Henry Philip Kugelman, Geo. Ludwich Dunt, and Edward Broughton."

Press 2, Line 14, after "Germaine," insert "John Doryes, Henry Philip Kugelman, George Ludwich Dunt, and Edward Broughton."

Press 3, Line 10, after "Germaine," insert "John Doryes, Henry Philip Kugelman, George Ludwich Dunt, and Edward Broughton."

Then the said Bill, with the Amendments, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Sir Jonath. Jennings do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed thereunto, with the said Amendments; and desire their Lordships Concurrence thereunto.

Paper Manufacture.

A Petition of divers Paper-sellers, Freemen of the City of London, on the Behalf of themselves and others, was read; setting forth, That the Making and Selling of Paper have been distinct Trades time out of Mind; and that the present Sellers thereof are very numerous, and have been brought up to that Trade alone; and therefore if the Bill before this House doth pass, for impowering some particular Persons for the sole Making and Vending of White and Printing Paper, it will be pernicious to, if not the utter Ruin of, the Petitioners Trades and Employments: And praying, That the Petitioners may be heard against the said Bill, before the same doth pass.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee to whom the Bill for encouraging and better establishing the Manufacture of White Paper in this Kingdom, is committed.

Earl of Shaftsbury's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for making Provisions for the Daughters and younger Sons of the Earl of Shaftsbury, with the Amendments, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Cooper do carry up the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed thereunto, with the said Amendments; and desire their Lordships Concurrence thereunto.

Leave for Member to attend Lords.

Ordered, That Serjeant Hutchins have Leave to attend the Lords, as Counsel, in a Cause between Thwaytes and Dye.

Earl of Essex's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable Algernoone Earl of Essex to make a Wife a Jointure, and for raising Monies for Payment of Six thousand Pounds, borrowed to make up the Lady Morpeth's Portion, with the Amendments, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass: And that the Title be agreed to, with the Addition of these Words, "and to make a Settlement of his Estate on his Marriage."

Ordered, That Mr. Clerke do carry the Bill to the Lords: and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed thereunto, with the said Amendments; and desire their Lordships Concurrence thereunto.

Great Marlow Sale of Lands.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the Sale of the Capital Messuage or Mansion House of Harlford, and Manor of Great Marlow, and other Lands in the County of Bucks, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Mr. Price, do carry the said Bill up to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed thereunto, without any Amendments.

Book of Rates respecting Linen, &c.

Mr. Foley reports from the Committee to whom it was referred to consider of the Book of Rates, and the Balance of Trade, relating to Linen, Silk, Wine, and Brandy, That the Committee had met several times; and had considered of each of the said Particulars; and come to distinct and several Resolutions, in relation thereunto: Which they had directed him to report to the House: And he read the same in his Place; and afterwards, delivered them in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as followeth; viz.

As to Brandy-That the Committee found, That all Brandy imported pays alike; and that all the Duties now paid amount unto, in the Whole, Forty-two Pounds per Ton: And it was the Opinion of the Committee, That the same Rates should be continued: And therefore they

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That the Duties on all Brandies to be imported, from any Place, should be settled at Forty-two Pounds per Ton.

As to Woven Silks from France-That they do now pay, in the Whole, about Seventeen Pounds and a half per Cent: That India Woven Silks do now pay Twelve Pounds per Cent: That Italian, and other Woven Silks, do now pay Fourteen Pounds and a half per Cent. And, after they had heard several Persons, experienced in the Trade of Silks, they came to this Resolution;

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That the Duties on Woven Silks, imported from France, be settled at Twenty-five Pounds per Cent.: That Alamodes, Luterings, and Avignions, imported, do pay Twenty-five Pounds per Cent.: That Woven Silks from India, Italy, and all other Places (except France), the Alamodes, Luterings, and Avignions, do pay Twenty Pounds per Cent.

That the Committee further considered, That it would be advantageous to the Trade of this Kingdom, if the Customs should be repaid for wrought Silks that were transported back again: And thereupon came to this Resolution;

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That all the Customs for Silks, which shall be transported, shall be repaid.

As to Wines-The Committee found, That the Subsidy, additional Duties, granted in the Time of King Charles the Second, and the new Imposts granted in the Time of King James the Second, with the Coinage now paid, did amount to about Thirteen Pounds per Ton neat; and that they thought fit to advance the Imposition thereupon: And thereupon

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That Eighteen Pounds per Ton neat be laid on all French Wines.

That the Committee found, That the Spanish, Portugall, and other Wines, now pay, on all Accounts, about Seventeen Pounds per Ton neat. After they had debated, What it was fit they should pay for the same, for the future, they came to this Resolution;

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That, for the future, Ten Pounds per Ton only, neat, be paid for all other Wines, except French Wines.

That they also came to another Resolution about Wine; viz.

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That the Custom be repaid for all Wines carried out again, within the Space of Twelve Months.

As to Lines-The Committee found, That the French paid Five or Six Pounds per Cent. less Duty for Linen, than the Germans, and Fifteen Pounds per Cent. less Duty than Flanders; but the Difference between France and Holland was much greater. It was agreed, that Ten Pounds per Cent. Addition on French Linens was necessary to set up the Trade in Germany: And they came to this Resolution,

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That the Imposition on French Linens (the Rates in the Book of Rates, and all other additional Duties, included) be adjusted unto Twenty-five Pounds per Cent. according to the true Value.

That the Committee several Days debated the Altering of the Rates of other Linens; and left it to some Merchants, and the Officers of the Customs, to bring in a Scheme to the Committee, What Rates were fit to be set on the particular Sorts of Linens, to discourage our Trade with France, and encourage that Trade with our Allies, And a Scheme of Rates was brought to the Committee by an Officer of the Customs: But the Committee did not think fit to proceed thereupon, but came to this Resolution; viz.

Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That all Linens, except French Linen, pay the same Duty as is now paid for the same respectively.

Resolved, That the Consideration of the said Report be referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill for granting to their Majesties a Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage, and other Sums of Money payable upon Merchandize exported and imported, is committed.

Hertford Election.

Resolved, That the Report from the Committee of Privileges and Elections, touching the Double Return and Election for the County of Hertford, be made upon Monday Morning next.

Supply Bill; Tonnage, &c.

Resolved, That Mr. Speaker do leave the Chair, to the end the Committee of the whole House may proceed upon the Bill for granting to their Majesties a Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage, and other Sums of Money payable upon Merchandize exported and imported.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer reports from the Committee of the whole House, That they had agreed to the said Bill, with some Amendments; which they had directed him to report to the House: And he read the same in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards, delivered them in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and afterwards a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

A Clause was offered to be added to the Bill for the enlarging the Time given by a former Act of Parliament, for Arthur Shallett and Gilbert Heathcot to import Two hundred Ton of Spanish Brandy.

And the Question being put, That the Clause be read;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Mr. Cognisby, 167.
Mr. Windham,
Tellers for the Noes, Mr. Onslow, 97.
Mr. Chadwick,

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Clause was twice read: And, after some Amendments, proposed and agreed unto by the House, the same was agreed to be made Part of the Bill.

Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments and Clause, be ingrossed.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the Committee to move the House, That the House will, upon Monday Morning next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to take into Consideration the Motion made the Twelfth Instant, for Continuance of certain Impositions, and of the Report this Day made from the Committee, to whom it was referred to consider of the Book of Rates, and Balance of Trade, relating to Linen, Silk, Wine, and Brandy; the Consideration of which Report was referred to this Committee.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday Morning next, at Ten a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to take into Consideration the Motion made the Twelfth Instant, for Continuance of certain Impositions, and of the Report this Day made from the Committee to whom it was referred to consider of the Book of Rates, and Balance of Trade, relating to Linen, Silk, Wine, and Brandy.

Oath of Abjuration.

Mr. Comptroller reports from the Committee to whom it was referred to prepare and draw up an Oath of Abjuration of the late King James, that all Persons in any Employment or Trust. Ecclesiastical, Civil, or Military, shall be obliged to take; and to prepare a Bill to that Purpose; That the Committee had prepared a Bill accordingly: Which he presented to the House.

The Bill was read the First time.

Resolved, Nemine contradicente, That the Bill be read the Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time Tomorrow Morning at Eleven of the Clock; and nothing to intervene.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.