House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 8 January 1692

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 10: 8 January 1692', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 10, 1688-1693, (London, 1802) pp. 616-617. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol10/pp616-617 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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Veneris, 8 die Januarii; 3° Gulielmi et Mariæ.

Prayers.

Mollineux's Estate.

MR. Harcourt, according to Order, presented to the House, a Bill to vest certain Lands of William Mollineux, Gentleman, in Trustees, for raising the Sum of Two thousand Pounds for paying Portions to his younger Brothers and Sisters, pursuant to a Decree in Chancery: And the same was received.

Albury, &c. Enfranchisement.

Mr. Christie reports from the Committee to whom the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for enfranchising several Copyhold Lands and Tenements, holden of the Manor of Albury and North Mims in the County of Hertford was committed, That they had made some Amendments to the Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House: The which he read in his Place, with the Coherence; and afterwards, delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and are as followeth; viz.

Press 3, Line 26, instead of "his," read "their."

Line 28, after "he," insert "or she."

And the same, being read a Second time, were, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Woolen Trade.

A Petition of the Merchants, Clothiers, Fullers, and divers other Trades within the Town and Parish of Tiverton in the County of Devon, and Parts adjacent, in the said County, was read; setting forth, That, in the late Troubles in Ireland, many of the People were charitably received in England; and, for their Support, employed in the Making of Serges, and other Cloathing Manufactures; and thereby have since endeavoured to set up the said Trade in Ireland; which will prove of very ill Consequence, they being able to undersell the English, at least Six Shillings per Serge, by the low Price of Wool and Labour there: And, for that Ireland hath, by God's Providence, been reduced at the Expence and Blood of the English Nation, who ought not to be intrenched upon by them in their Trading, and praying the Consideration and Relief of the House in the Premises.

Ordered, That the Examination and Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee to whom the Petition of the Merchants, Clothiers, Fullers, and other Trades within the Borough of Mynehead, in the County of Somersett, and Parts adjacent, is referred.

Drax's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to vest the Estate, late the Estate of Henry Drax, Esquire, deceased, in Tho. Shatterden, Gentleman, and to enable the said Thomas Shatterden, and others, to whom the said Estate is devised, to make a Jointure, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Mr. Brewer do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House has agreed to the same, without any Amendments.

Cullum's Estate.

Sir Robert Davers reports from the Committee to whom the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for enabling Sir Tho. Dudley Cullum, Baronet, to raise Monies to pay his Brother and Sisters Portions, was committed, That they had considered the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendments. And he delivered the same in at the Table.

Martyn's Estate.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the Sale of the Manor of Manworthy, with its Appurtenances, in the County of Devon, being the Lands and Estate of Nicholas Martyn, Esquire, by Trustees herein after named, for the Payment of the Debt, of the said Nicholas Martyn, was read the Third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be agreed to.

Ordered, That Mr. Christie do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the same, without any Amendment.

Breeding Cattle.

Sir John Dorrell, according to Order, presents to the House a Bill for the Encouragement of Breeding and Fatting of Cattle. And the same was received.

The Bill was read the First time;

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.

Fraudulent Devises.

A Bill for Relief of Creditors against fraudulent Devises, was read the Second time:

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Mr. Waller, Sir Sam. Bernardiston, Mr. Freeman, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Mr. Lutterell, Sir Peter Colleton, Sir Rob. Davers, Sir Wilfred Lawson, Mr. Goldwell, Mr. Christie, Mr. Piggott, Mr. England, Sir John Knight, Mr. Fuller, Sir Walter Young, Sir Rob. Henley, Sir Cha. Keymish, Sir Tho. Darcy, Mr. Biddolph, Sir Wm. Ellis, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Fenwick, Mr. Bedding feild, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Burrard, Mr. How, Sir Jervas Elwes, Sir Roger Puleston, and all the Members that are of the Long Robe: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber:

Call of the House.

Ordered, That the House be called over upon Thursday Morning next, at Ten a Clock: And that such Members of this House, as shall not then attend the Service of the House, be sent for in Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, for such their Neglect.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Colonel Strangewayes have Leave to go into the Country, for a Fortnight, his Lady being ill.

Fishery.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed, to consider of Ways and Means for the Encouragement of the General Fishery of this Nation; and to report their Opinions therein to the House.

And it is referred to Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Henley, Mr. Goldwell, Mr. Campion, Mr. Hutchinson, Mr. Christie, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Burdet, Mr. Carter, Sir Hen. Ashurst, Sir Sam. Bernadiston, Sir Ralph Dutton, Sir Cha. Sidley, Mr. Bickerstaffe, Mr. Lutterell, Sir Tho. Darcy, Sir Edw. Abney, Mr. Champneyes, Mr. Blowfeild, Colonel Lee, Mr. Bertie, Mr. Colt, Sir Rob. Henley, Mr. Osbourne, Mr. Neale, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Brockman, Mr. Bennet, Sir John Dorrell, Sir Rich. Abney, Colonel Perry, Mr. Preston, Mr. Travers, Mr. Burrett, and all the Members that serve for Cinque Ports and Sea Ports: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Reducing Interest.

A Bill for the Lessening of Interest Money, was, according to the Order of the Day, read the Second time.

And the Question being put, That the Bill be committed;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Mr. Bickerstaffe, 169.
Sir Robert Henley,
Tellers for the Noes, Sir Sam. Bernadiston, 153.
Colonel Granvile,

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Resolved, That the Bill for lessening the Interest of Money be committed to Sir Wm. Ellis, Sir John Lowther, Sir John Dorrell, Sir Jos. Herne, Sir John Key, Mr. Carew, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Lutterell, Sir Rob. Davers, Mr. Papillion, Colonel Cornwall, Mr. Arnold, Sir Edw. Hussey, Marquis Winchester, Mr. Chetwyn, Mr. Harbord, Mr. Maine, Sir Tho. Darcy, Mr. Colt, Mr. Greenfeild, Mr. Christie, Mr. Freke, Sir John How, Mr. Duncomb, Mr. Bowyer, Sir John Cutler, Colonel Perry, Mr. Finch, Sir Hen. Goodrick, Mr. Brockman, Sir Baz. Firebrass, Mr. Sherrard, Sir Fra. Blake, Mr. Richard How, Sir John Cary, Sir Wm. Yorke, Colonel Granvile, Mr. Fawkes, Mr. Thornhaugh, Mr. Palmes, Sir Tho. Roberts, Mr. Trenchard, Sir Jervas Elwes, Mr. Banks, Sir Tho. Clarges, Mr. Hutchinson, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Dowdeswell; And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock in the Speaker's Chamber.

General Ginckle's Answer to Thanks.

The Lord Castleton acquainted the House, that he and the other Members appointed had attended General Ginckle with the Thanks of this House, according to Order: And that he acknowledged the great Honour done him by this House; and that the Success of their Majesties Arms in Ireland was owing chiefly to the Valour of the English; and that he would take care to communicate the Vote of this House to the Officers that served in Ireland; and always endeavour the Prosperity of their Majesties, and the Government; and upon all Occasions acknowledge the great Obligations he had to this House.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cooke and Sir Adam Ottley;

Pelham's Estate.

Kymersly's Estate.

Bishop of London's Estate.

Mr. Speaker, The Lords have passed a Bill, intituled, An Act for securing, out of some of the Manors, Lands, Tenements, and the Hereditaments of Charles Pelham of Brockeslby in the County of Lincolne, Esquire, the Sum of Five thousand Pounds, with Interest; and One thousand Pounds unto Anne Pelham, eldest Daughter of the said Charles Pelham; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House: And also a Bill, intituled, An Act to enable Thomas Kymersly to make a Lease or Leases for Payment of his Debts; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House: And also a Bill, intituled, An Act to enable the Bishop of London, and Trustees, to sell the Manor of Bushly in the County of Worcester, Part of the Bishoprick of London, and to purchase other Lands to be annexed to the said Bishoprick, for the Improvement thereof; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

London Orphans.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Tuesday Morning next, at Ten a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of Ways and Means for satisfying the Debts due to the Orphans of the City of London.

Conference agreed to with Lords.

The Lord Colchester acquaints the House, that he having, according to their Order Yesterday, delivered their Answer to the Lords, That this House doth agree to a free Conference desired by their Lordships; Their Lordships have appointed the same to be To-morrow at Twelve a Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Resolved, That this House doth agree to a free Conference with the Lords accordingly.

East India Company.

A Petition of Sir John Molesworth, Sheriff of the County of Cornwall, on behalf of himself, and the other Inhabitants of the said County, was presented to the House, and read: setting forth, That his Majesty King Charles First, by Letters Patents, dated 26 January, Nineteenth Year of his Reign, did grant unto the said County of Cornwall a free Trade and Commerce unto and from all Places in Amity with this Realm; whereby the Petitioners conceive they have a Right to trade to the EastIndies, as well as elsewhere: And, whereas the Establishing that Company, is now under Consideration of the House, and praying, That the Rights and Privileges, granted by the said Letters Patents, may be preserved to the Petitioners.

And also the said Grant, mentioned in the said Petition, was delivered in, and read.

Ordered, That the same be taken into the farther Consideration of this House.

Then the Order of the Day, for taking into Consideration the Answer and Proposals given in by the Committee of the East India Company, was read.

And the Answer and Proposals were read.

And the House proceeded to take the said Answer and Proposals into Consideration accordingly.

And a Committee of the Company were called in to the Bar; and asked, Whether the Persons, proposed for Security, did know of the Regulations voted by this House, and consented to by them; and, whether they would give a Recognizance.

To which they answered, That they submitted to such Regulations, as should be passed into an Act; and that the Security should be, as the House should direct.

And then withdrew.

Resolved, That this House doth approve of the Security proposed by the East India Company.

Then a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish an East India Company, according to the Regulations and Resolutions agreed unto by this House;

An Amendment was proposed to be made in the Question, by leaving out "an;" and inserting "the:"

And the Question being put, That the Word "an" stand Part of the Question;

The House divided.

The Yeas go forth.

Tellers for the Yeas, Sir Fran. Drake, 115.
Mr. Smith,
Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Davers, 85.
Mr. Harcourt,

So it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Then another Amendment was proposed to be made in the Question, by leaving out "Company;" and inserting "Trade:"

And the Question being put, That the Word "Com"pany" stand Part of the Question;

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Resolved, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish an East India Company, according to the Regulations and Resolutions agreed upon by this House.

Ordered, That Mr. Finch, Sir Christopher Musgrave, Serjeant Tremaine, Sir Thom. Littleton, Sir Rob. Sawyer, Mr. Methwyn, Serjeant Wogan, Mr. Pollexfen, Sir Jos. Williamson; or any Three of them; do prepare and bring in the Bill.

Ways and Means.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday Morning next at Ten a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of Ways and Means for raising the Supplies to be granted to their Majesties, for the carrying on a vigorous War against France; and nothing to intervene.

Committees.

Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Eight of the Clock.