House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 08 July 1642

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 8 Julii, 1642.


Absence from Prayers.

ORDERED, That the like Order that was formerly made for those to pay Twelve Pence apiece that are not present at Prayers, shall be renewed; and begin To-morrow Morning: And that the Serjeant bring in a Note of such Names as he has taken, that refused to pay, that were absent from Prayers.

Declaration on Defence of the Kingdom.

Mr. Pym reports, from the Committee appointed to take Care of the Defence of the Kingdom, a Declaration, setting forth the Reasons and Grounds that move the Parliament for raising Forces at this Time: was now read; and, by Vote, upon the Question, assented unto, with some small Alterations made at the Table; and re-committed to the same Committee, to insert these Additions following; viz.

An Addition to be made, concerning the Putting out of the Sheriff of Leicestershire, and putting in another at this Time; and concerning the Seizing the Magazine there; Concerning the Papists in Cheshire peremptory demanding, in the King's Name, that their Arms should be restored; The Displacing of Members of this House.

An Addition to be made, concerning the Information of great Provision of Arms and Ammunition at Dunkirke; and concerning Sir Fra. Wortley's and Sir Tho. Metham's coming with Forces, and cutting the River from the Town.

Mr. Strode is appointed to attend this Committee upon this Re-commitment.

Letters from Ambassador in Germany.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayleffe and Sir Edw. Leech;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a Letter lately received from Sir Tho. Roe.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Waller, Mr. Holles, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

A Letter from Sir Tho. Rowe, of the Third of June, from Vienna, directed to Mr. E. Waller, a Member of this House, to vindicate himself from an Imputation and Scandal laid upon him, being his Majesty's Ambassador to the Emperor and Princes of Germany, by the Extract of a Letter presented to the House by the Ambassador to the French King.

Mr. Waller presented, from the Conference, a Letter from Sir Tho. Rowe, much to the Purpose of that directed to Mr. Waller, protesting his Innocency, &c.

The Lord of Holland, who managed this Conference, spake something to One Expression in Sir Tho. Rowe's Letter; viz. "That the French Ambassador hath, by your Lordship's Mediation, preferred a Complaint against me:" Whereby he understood not that he intended to lay it so, as if the French Ambassador had been moved by him to make this Complaint; but that the French Ambassador used his Mediation to prefer this Complaint to the House of Peers.

The Lords desire this Letter may be communicated to the French Ambassador.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Letter be sent to the French Ambassador.

The Letter followeth, in hæc verba; which is ordered to be entered.

My Lord,

I HAVE heard that the French Ambassador hath, by your Lordship's Mediation, preferred a Complaint against me, in the House of Peers, that I have offered to the King of Hungary, in the Name of his Majesty my Master, a League, offensive and defensive, against all Men, upon Condition of Restitution and Reintegration of the Prince Elector Palatine to his Lands and Dignities; which, being in Contravention of the League between his Majesty, the French King, and the United States, was offensively taken; in which he desired Reparation.

I could have wished so much Moderation in the French Ambassador, if the Jealousy proceed from himself, that he had been first well grounded to have proved his Accusation: If by Order from the King his Master, that he would have been pleased to have asked the Question of his Majesty, before he brought it into publick; to whom he cannot doubt that I have given Account of my Actions.

But, seeing he hath presented me before the Lords, I am not sorry, nor unwilling, to purge myself before so honourable Judges; nor that I am fallen into your Lordship's Hands, who, I presume, will do me equal Justice, (which I beseech you) to represent my Answer before their Lordships: Which is, with all Reverence to the Thrice Christian King, and due Respect to his Ambassador, as his representant, and without Relation to the Command of the one, or Obedience of the other, the whole Accusation in Form and Matter, in Substance and Circumstances, is unjust, and, in the First Inventor, false, and against Innocency, Truth, and faithful Service, scandalous.

I never received any such Power nor Instruction from his Majesty my Master, nor had the Boldness, Infidelity, or Indiscretion, to presume to do it of myself; but so far the contrary, that I have often, openly, authentickly, and seriously, protested against any Motion or Overture of any Confederation, directly or consequently, against the Crowns of France and Suede and the United Provinces, his Majesty's Friends and Allies; which is registred in many publick Acts, which I could produce, testified by all the Ambassadors, Mediators in this Treaty; but that I value my own Witness equal and sufficient against my Accuser.

Your Lordship, and many of the honourable Peers, have long known me; and I am not ignorant either of my Duty, or the present Conjuncture of Europe; and shall end with this Profession; That, as I am a faithful Servant to my Master, so I am a good and true Englishman, neither French, Spanish, Austrian, or Dutch, nor for any Respects shall ever be; which I wish were the true Character of all my Countrymen; of which when I shall have the Honour to render an Account (if I be called unto it) to the High Court of Parliament, I am confident that I shall not only justify all my Actions, but make it appear, to my own Advantage, that in a Business of so much Perplexity, and of so many Relations, wherein I have stood alone, that I have both understood my Employments, and the present Condition of publick Affairs; and principally directed all my Scope to the Honour of his Majesty, the Safety and Advantage of his Kingdoms, and the Preservation of true Religion, in those Places where it hath pleased God both to plant and purge it by his Chastisements. And thus much, out of your innate Candour and Ingenuity, and for a Testimony of your Lordship's Favour to me, I beseech you humbly to present, in my Name, to the House of Peers, that they may be pleased to register and publish my Protestation, for the Vindication of my Honesty and Reputation, wherein you shall infinitely oblige

Vienna, 3° Junii 1642. Your Lordship's ancient and most humble Servant,Tho. Rowe.

Mr. Waller is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, that this House agrees, that Sir Tho. Rowe's Letter be forthwith sent to the French Ambassador; and desire that the Lords will appoint a Time.

Ld. Mayor's Answer to Impeachment.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords send Word, that the Lord Mayor of London is now ready to put in his Answer; and, if it pleased this House, they might send some Member.

Mr. Peard, Mr. Pury, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Hill, Mr. Browne.

Raising Horse, &c.

Mr. Serjeant * is ordered to send down the Propositions for raising Horse, Monies, and Plate, by a Messenger Express, into Cheshire and Warwickshire.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers:

This House has considered their Lordships Message; and hath resolved, presently, to send some Members to be present at the Lord Mayor's Answer.

Buckingham Forces.

Upon the Report from the Committee appointed to take Care of the Defence of the Kingdom; it was Ordered, That the County of Bucks shall detain in their Hands One thousand Pounds out of the Monies subscribed by themselves to provide Horse Arms, to be for the Service of the King, Kingdom and Parliament.

Ordered, That Officers shall be sent down into the County of Bucks, to exercise and train their Horse; which Officers are to be paid at the publick Charge: And that the like Order be made for other Counties that shall desire it.

Lord Lieutenant, &c.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Lord Cramborne be nominated to be Lord Lieutenant of Hertfordshire and Dorsetshire, instead of the Earl of Salisbury: And that, at the same Time, when the Militia is put in Execution in these Counties, they shall likewise be moved and encouraged to the Advancement of the Propositions for bringing in of Money, Plate and Horses.

French Ambassador.

Mr. Waller brings Answer, That the Lords have appointed Two Lords to acquaint the French Ambassador with the Letter come from Sir Tho. Rowe.

Bringing in Plate, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Subscriptions, to consider what Counties are most convenient first to be sent into, for the Advancing of the Propositions for bringing in of Plate, Money and Horse: And they are to meet this Afternoon for that Purpose: And Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Cromwell, and Sir H. Mildmay, are added to this Committee.

Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerard do write a Letter to the Deputy Lieutenants of Warwickshire, to encourage the Advancement of the Propositions for bringing in of Monies, Plate and Horse.

Defence of the Kingdom.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloffe and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have appointed Two Lords more, to be added to the Committee for the Defence of the Kingdom.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does assent to this Proposition of Addition of Two more to the Committee for the Defence * * *.

Dover Committee.

Ordered, That the Committee for Dover shall be suspended for this Afternoon.

Nominating Officers.

That the Committee for the Defence of the Kingdom shall take into Consideration this Afternoon to nominate chief Officers, and present them to the House.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Baron Henden and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have appointed to hear the Lord Mayor's Cause on Monday Morning: And that they will sit this Afternoon, at Five of Clock.

Officers to Leicestershire.

Ordered, That the Officers to be sent into Leicestershire shall be paid at the publick Charge.

Officers Pay.

Ordered, That Five hundred Pounds shall be imprested upon Account, unto Sir Arth. Heselrig, out of the Subscription Monies, to be employed for the Pay of the Officers to be sent down into Leicestershire, by Order of both Houses.

Loan from Merchant Strangers.

Ordered, That the Monies subscribed by the Merchant Strangers, to be lent for One Year, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for and towards the Relief and Preservation of Ireland, shall be paid into the Chamber of London, in such Manner as the One hundred thousand Pounds lent by the Companies of London for that Occasion, is appointed: And that their Acquittance for the Receipt thereof shall be a sufficient Discharge for the same: And the Officers appointed to receive the Monies aforesaid, lent by the Companies, are likewise appointed to receive these Monies.

Provisions for Hull.

Ordered, That the Customers at Boston and Lynne shall be required to permit such Victuals, and other Provision, as shall be there provided to be sent to Hull, to be conveyed from thence to Hull without Interruption.

Beer for Hull.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom do take Care for the Sending of an Hundred Tun of Beer to Hull.

Dover Committee.

Ordered, That the Dover Committee be suspended for this Afternoon.

Volunteers Indemnity.

The Draught of an Order for the Indemnity of the Volunteers at Ashford, was read; and recommitted to the same Committee.

Tumults in Hatfield Chace.

The Draught of an Order for Suppressing of Tumults in Hatfield Chace, was likewise read; and re-committed.

Commission of Array.

Information was given to the House, that the Sheriff of Worcestershire had sent out his Warrant for assembling the People to bear Arms, by virtue of the Commission of Array, upon pain of Imprisonment; and that Mr. Sherrington Talbott the younger, who was formerly complained of in this House, and summoned to appear, and the Summons left upon the Table in his House, as was affirmed by the Messenger sent down for him, hath not only neglected to appear upon the Summons, but hath been very active to oppose the Ordinance of the Militia, and to advance the Commission of Array:

Persons sent for.

It is hereupon Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Sherrington Talbott the younger shall be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, for refusing to appear upon the Summons, and for other Misdemeanors.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the High Sheriff of the County of Worcester be forthwith summoned to appear before this House; and to be brought in safe Custody.

Information against Daud.

There was Information given of Words of a dangerous and high Nature, and much scandalous to the Parliament, spoken by one James Daud of Feversham:

It is thereupon Ordered, That the Serjeant shall take him into his Custody; and convey him to the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and likewise the Information against him, to the end he may there be proceeded with according to Law.

Warrant to Payne.

Ordered, That Mr. Tho. Payne, of the County of Norfolk, shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to transport himself into Ireland, to look after an Estate lately fallen unto him by the Decease of a Brother.

House to meet.

Ordered, That the House shall meet this Afternoon, at Five of Clock.

Post Meridiem.

Officers Arrears.

ORDERED, That the Name of Guy Mouldsworth shall be inserted among the Names of those Officers that were appointed to be paid their Arrears out of the Monies that are come in upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds, out of the County of Essex: And that the said Guy Moldsworth shall, with the rest of the said Officers, be paid such Arrears of his personal Entertainment, as shall appear due upon the Certificate of Sir Wm. Uvedale, Treasurer at Wars in the late Northern Expedition.

Volunteers Indemnity.

WHEREAS divers well-affected Persons of the Town of Ashford, in the County of Kent, have, of themselves, as Volunteers, been drawn into the Field, in Companies, to the Number of about Fifty, or more, to the Intent that thereby they might be exercised in the Use of their Arms, and order of Marching, that so they might be the more able to do Service for the King and Kingdom, when they shall be called thereunto by the Authority of Parliament; and altho' they did go forth in a peaceable Manner, with the Constable of the Parish, yet some Persons, not well-affected to the Ordinance of Parliament for the Militia, did, with provoking and threatening Words, discourage them: The Lords and Commons, taking the Premises into Consideration, have thought fit to Order, That the said Persons shall have the Authority of both Houses of Parliament for their Security and Indemnity for such their so Training already passed; and that they may hereafter have a Warrant from the Lord Lieutenant of that County, appointed by Ordinance of Parliament, or from some of his Deputies, to encourage them, and to give them Power in an orderly and peaceable Sort, to draw forth in Companies such as are willing to submit themselves to the said Ordinance of Parliament; and that they, and their Officers, in a peaceable Sort, may train and learn the Use of their Arms, at such convenient Times and Places as shall be by them thought fit for that Purpose.

Ordered, That this Order be carried up to the Lords, to desire their Concurrence herein.

Charge of Bribery againft Pym.

Upon a Report from the Committee appointed to consider of the Imputation laid upon Mr. Pym, for taking a Bribe of Thirty Pounds;

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Report of Mr. Pym's taking a Bribe is false, scandalous, and malicious.

Resolved, That Mr. Henry Darrell, and Mr. Rich. Foster, are Authors of this scandalous and malicious Report upon Mr. Pym.

Resolved, That Mr. Henry Darrell be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, for being Author of a false, scandalous, and malicious Report upon Mr. Pym.

Information against Barton.

An Information was given in, in Writing, against Mr. Barton, of Words spoken against the Parliament.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. John Barton, Minister of Aylesbury, in the County of Bucks, be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms.

Hereforde Declaration.

Resolved, &c. That the printed Paper, intituled, The Declaration or Resolution of the County of Hereforde, shall be referred to the Committee for Printing: Who are to sit To-morrow, at Two .. Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber.

Resolved, &c. That * Hammon the Printer shall be forthwith summoned to attend this House, and be brought up in safe Custody.

Privilege-Proceedings against Dutton, &c.

Mr. Maddison was called in; and did aver, that he being at a Stationer's Shop, and reading a Pamphlet, intituled, The Declaration or Resolution of the County of Hereford; and saying, that this was a foul Scandal upon the Parliament, and that the Author of it deserved to be whipt; one Sir Wm. Boleter told him, that he deserved to be whipt for saying so; and that he would justify every Word in it; and that, by God, he would slash him; and, while he was talking with him, one Mr. Dutton, a Minister, came to him, and likewise said, that he deserved to be whipt; and he asked him, Wherefore? And he replied, For speaking Nonsense, and for saying it was a Libel.

Resolved, That Mr. Dutton the Minister, shall be forthwith committed a Prisoner to the Gatehouse; there to remain during the Pleasure of the House, for carrying himself in a scornful Manner in the House, and for, as much as in him lay, justifying the foulest and most scandalous Pamphlet that ever was raised or published against the Parliament.

Mr. Dutton was again called in: And Mr. Speaker told him, that by his Carriage here towards the House, one might very well judge of his Behaviour towards the Parliament out of the House; and that, as much as in him lay, he had justified One of the foulest and most scandalous Libels that ever was raised or published against the Parliament: And then Mr. Speaker pronounced the Sentence against him aforesaid.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. 'Boteler's Bail shall be required to bring him in To-morrow Morning.

Affairs at Leicester.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Glanvile and Serjeant Whittfield;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you This Letter and Paper.

The Letter was read: Which was from one Mr. Wm. Reyner, of Leicester, concerning the Disposing of the Magazine there.

The Paper contained certain Informations of divers People concerning Mr. Hastings coming to Leicester, to demand the Magazine; the Mayor's Carriage there; and the Proclaiming the Earl of Stamford and others Traytors.

Ordered, This Business to be taken into farther Consideration.

Mr. Long carried up to the Lords, the Order concerning the Officers to be set forth for Munster, by the Adventurers for Ireland; and the Orders concerning the Volunteers of Ashford.

Hereford Declaration.

Message from the Lords, by Judge Foster and Judge Mallett;

That the Lords do desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning a Printed Paper, intituled, A Declaration or Resolution of the County of Hereford.

Answer returned by the same Messengers: That this House will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Sir Wm. Lewis, Sir Rob. Harley, Sir Jo. Evelyn, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Two Constables were called in: Who informed the House, that they were sent by the Justices at the Sessions at Newgate, with Two Persons that were taken divulging the printed Resolution of the County of Hereford.

The Men were called in; and confessed the same; and that they bought them of one Hamond.

Sir Rob. Harley reports from the Conference had with the Lords, That the Lords had brought unto them a printed Paper, which is a scandalous and infamous Libel, in the Name of the County of Hereforde; and do desire, that this House will join with their Lordships, in desiring the Knights that serve for that County, to send down to know who in that County will avow the same: And, if any do, that they shall be prosecuted to the utmost, for setting forth such an infamous Libel.

Resolved, &c. That this is a most scandalous and infamous Paper.

Resolved, &c. That Jo. Hubbard and Evan Lewis shall be sent back to the Justices of Peace at the Sessions at Newgate, to be there proceeded against according to Law, for publishing an infamous and scandalous Libel.

Ordered, That Sir Rob. Harley do bring in to the House, To-morrow Morning, the Two Letters he received from some of the Gentry of the County of Hereforde.

Resolved, &c. That Hamon the Printer shall be sent for, as a Delinquent.

Commission of Array, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Wilde and Mr. Salloway shall be forthwith sent into the County of Worcester, to possess that County with the Declarations of both Houses against the Illegality of the Commission of Array; and to attend the Putting in Execution the Ordinance for the Militia, when Deputations shall come down to that Purpose.

Siege of Drohedagh.

Ordered, That the Relation of the Passages of the Siege of Drohedagh, attested under the Hand of the Lord Moore, and others, be referred to the Committee for Printing.

Lords agree to Orders.

Lord Gray, Mr. Hampden, and Mr. Long, report, the Lords do agree with this House in the several Orders they carried up.