House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 23 March 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 23 Martii, 1642.


Hanworth Parish Plate.

UPON the Petition of the Parishioners and Inhabitants of the Parish of Hanworth, in the County of Middlesex; it is Ordered, That the Plate given for the Use of the said Parish, and seized in the Lord Cottington's House, by one Austin, Corporal to Serjeant Major Harvy, and now remaining in Guildhall London, be forthwith restored to the said Parishioners.

Payment to Dykes.

Mr. Trenchard is appointed to bring in an Order for Mr. Dykes receiving Four thousand Pounds, Part of the brotherly Assistance, out of the Monies upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds.

Trelawny's Petition.

The humble Petition of Rob. Trelawny, a Prisoner in Winchester House, desiring to be bailed, was read.

And the Question being put for his Bail;

It passed with the Negative.

Treaty with the King.

A Letter from the Committee at Oxon, of March the One-and-twentieth; relating how they had presented the Articles of Cessation.

Ordnance for Hull.

A Letter from the Mayor and others of Hull, of the Thirteenth of March, desiring to be furnished with Twenty Pieces of Ordnance, with their Carriages and other Equipage necessary, was this Day read. And it is Ordered, That it be especially recommended to the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, to speedily furnish them with the Ordnance, and other Necessaries, desired.

And Mr. Pelham is appointed to move the Committee herein; and to give an Account to the House what Satisfaction he receives herein.

Galloway Fort.

A Letter from his Majesty's Fort near Galloway, of the Thirtieth of January, was this Day read; and ordered to be especially recommended to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland; to take into a speedy Consideration, to give effectual Relief to that Fort.

Cheshire Delinquents.

A Letter from Namptwich, of the Thirteenth of March, * *

That a Conference be desired with the Lords; and that this Letter from Sir Wm. Brereton be communicated at this Conference; and likewise the Warrant from the Governor of Chester, &c. for the Seizing of the Estates of such as have appeared in Arms: And that the Lords be moved to join with the particular Order to that Purpose, for Cheshire; and in the Ordinance for Sequestring the Estate of Papists, and other notorious Delinquents.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning several Messages and Letters they have received from his Majesty, and the Earl of Northumberland, and the Committee at Oxon.


Answer returned by the same Messengers, that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Conference agreed to.

Mr. Hatcher is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, that they will give a present Meeting at a Conference, as is desired; and to desire, that, at this Conference, this House may communicate those Letters and Advertisements they have received from Oxon.

Army Affairs.

A Letter from Colonel Arth. Goodwyn, Colonel Hampden, and others, of the Passage and Carriage of the Forces under the Command of General Ruthen, Prince Rupert, Prince Maurice, the Earl of Caernarvon, &c. before Aylesbury, was this Day read; and Ordered, That a Copy of it be sent to my Lord Mayor, to be communicated to the City; and another to be communicated to the Lords; and that it be printed.

Prisoner discharged.

Ordered, That Mr. Progers be forthwith discharged; and that the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom do give Order for the Satisfaction of the Messengers that came up with him; and that he shall have Mr. Speaker's Pass, and a Post Warrant, to go to Oxon, for himself, without Letters.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Hatcher brings Answer, that the Lords consent, that this House should, at this Conference, communicate those Letters they have received from Oxon.

King's Printer.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of John Parker and Miles Fletcher, the Assigns of Rob. Barker, his Majesty's Printer, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee at Haberdashers Hall.

Irish Adventurers.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Adventurers for Irish Affairs, where Mr. Maynard has the Chair, do withdraw to prepare the Bill, for those that have failed in Subscriptions.

Treaty with the King.

Mr. Holles presented, from the Conference, Two Letters from the Earl of Northumberland; the one of the One-and-twentieth, the other of the Two-and-twentieth, of this Instant March; and a Letter from my Lord Falkland, with a Message inclosed from his Majesty; touching the Articles of Cessation.

Houses to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. *;

The Lords do conceive, that, by reason of their Sitting upon Committees in the Forenoon, the Business of the House cannot be conveniently dispatched: They do intend to sit as a House, every Morning, at a convenient Time; and meet at Committees in the Afternoon.

Resolved, &c. That the House shall sit every Morning, at Eight of Clock; and that the Committee shall sit in the Afternoon.-

Examination of Progers.

Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Blakiston, are appointed to examine Mr. Progers, what Paper or Letter that was the House is informed he tore.-

Answer to Lords.

-Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message, and have resolved to sit at Eight of Clock; and that the Committees shall sit in the Afternoons.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Holles carried up to the Lords the Order concerning the Difference between some English and Scottish Officers; the Order concerning the Pay of the Soldiers of the Earl of Manchester's Regiment at Northampton.

Earl of Newporte.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords desire the Concurrence of this House, in that Message they Yesterday sent, concerning the Coming up of the Earl of Newporte; the which Message was Yesterday mistaken by the Messenger, in not desiring the Concurrence of this House.

The Question being put, whether the House should send Answer by Messengers of their own;

The House was divided:

The Yeas went forth.

But, before they were told, the Yeas yielded.

The Question being put, whether this House should agree with the Lords;

The House was again divided:

Before they were told, . . . .

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in their Message and Desire, concerning the Earl of Newporte.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that the House has considered of their Lordships Message; and do concur with the Lords in the Manner of the coming up of the Earl of Newporte, as is desired.

Marking Horses, &c.

Mr. Strode carried up to the Lords the Order concerning the marking of Horses:

Brings Answer that the Lords do concur in this Order.

"Ordered, By the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That no Person or Persons whatsoever do at any time, from henceforth, buy, sell, take to Pawn, or exchange, any Horse, Horses, Muskets, Carabines, Pistols, Pikes, Corslets, or any other Arms marked with the Marks above specified; and that no Smith, Gunsmith, or other Person, do, upon any Pretence whatsoever, either alter or deface the Mark above specified, being either on Horse or Arms."

"It is further Ordered, That in case any Horse or Horses, marked with this Mark, shall fall sick, lame, or otherwise for the present prove unserviceable; that the Constable of the Town, at the Charge of the said Town, take care to preserve such Horses, until they can be sent unto such as may be appointed to receive them: And that such as shall receive them shall defray the Charges of them. And, if any Person or Persons offend in the Premises, it is Ordered, That he or they shall suffer Imprisonment during the Pleasure of the House, and forfeit the Goods so bought."

Conference desired.

Sir Beauchamp St. John is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference by Committees of both Houses, concerning some Part of the Matter of the last Conference.

Galloway Fort.

Ordered, That Fifty Chaldron of Coals be provided and sent to the Fort of Galloway, together with the other Provisions already ordered, and now in providing to be sent thither.

Treaty with the King.

The House fell again into the Consideration of his Majesty's Message delivered at the last Conference; and it was.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee at Oxon shall have Power to treat and debate with his Majesty upon the Two first Propositions, according to their Instructions, for Four Days after the Day of the Receipt of this Message, notwithstanding that the Cessation is not yet agreed upon.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee formerly appointed to prepare the Articles of Cessation, and Instructions for the Committee at Oxon, with the Addition of Mr. Selden and Mr. Hatcher, shall consider of an Answer to be made to his Majesty's Message this Day received; and likewise prepare Reasons to be sent unto the Committee, for them to press in the Treaty, and debate upon the former Articles of Cessation; and to shew his Majesty the Grounds, why the Houses cannot depart from those former Articles.

Earl of Stafford.

Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Stafford, now stayed at Rye in his Passage over into France, by Mr. Morley, a Member of this House, be forthwith discharged from any longer or further Stay; and that Sir Tho. Barrington do write a Letter to Mr. Morley, to give him Thanks for his Care; and to acquaint him with this Vote; and that no Cessation is yet agreed on.

Rents belonging to the Rolls.

Ordered, That the Collector of the Rents belonging to the Rolls do collect those Rents; and that the Tenants be required to pay them unto the said Collector: And that all such Rents, as he shall receive, he do forthwith pay over unto the Treasurer at Wars, upon Account, to be employed for the Service of the Parliament.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Hollis brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to the Ordinance concerning the English and Scotts Officers; to the Ordinance concerning the Payment of the Arrears to the Earl of Manchester's Regiment at Northampton; and to the Ordinance of Sequestration.

Fines in Chancery.

Ordered, That Mr. Smith do give Notice unto Mr. Winne, Receiver of the casual Fines in the Chancery, that he appear before the Committee for Monies at Haberdashers Hall; and that he do, by their Directions, pay such Monies as he has in his hands upon those casual Fines, upon Account, to the Treasurer at Wars.

Pratt's &c. Claims.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Trenchard and Mr. Wheeler, to consider, how, out of the Monies upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds, the Monies due to Sir George Pratt and Mr. Cambell, upon that Bill, may be forthwith received, and paid, upon Account, to the Treasurer at Wars, to be employed fort he Service of the Parliament.

Conference with Lords.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do To-morrow put the House in mind of the Conference formerly appointed to be had with the Lords, concerning the Deputation made to Sir Rob. Riche from Sir Jo. Colpeper.

Payment to Treasurer at War.

Ordered, That the Clerk in Sir Peter Osborne's Office, Receiver of the Monies upon the Respite of Homage, or any other, in whose Hands the said Monies do remain, do forthwith pay all such Monies unto Sir Gilb. Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, upon an Account: And that an Acquittance, under the said Treasurer's Hands, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Clerk, or other Person, as aforesaid; and that the said Clerk, or other Person, for his Obedience to this Order, shall be saved harmless by this House.

Prisoner to be sent up.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. * Cooke, now Prisoner in Yarmouth, shall be forthwith sent, by Sea, in safe Custody, to London.

Seizure of Money, &c.

Ordered, That Captain Johnson and Captain Wilde, according to the former Order, to seize the Monies and Corn in the Hands of Robert Napes Esquire, for the King's Diet in the County of Yorke: And he is to give an Account of the Monies received in the County of Norfolke.

Design on Laistoffe.

Ordered, That Sir Rob. Brooke, Hen. North sen. Rob. Brewster, Fra. Brewster, Mr. Vaughan of Beckles, Capt. Cooper, Captain Johnson, Captain Wilde, or any Two of them, to examine the Design upon the Town Laistoffe, and Hundred of Lovenghan, in the County of Norfolk.