House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 28 August 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, 28 Augusti, 1643.


Advance for Plymouth.

WHEREAS it was formerly ordered, that Four thousand Pounds, out of the Fifty thousand Pounds advanced by the City, should be lent and advanced for the Service of Plymouth; which, as yet comes not in: And whereas, in regard of the Importance of the Service, many well-affected Gentlemen, of the western Parts, are willing to advance and lay down the said Sum of Four thousand Pounds, or the greatest Part thereof: It is Ordered, That so much as shall be laid down or advanced by the said well-affected Gentlemen, shall be paid and reimbursed unto them by the Treasurers at Guildhall, London, out of the next Monies of the said Fifty thousand Pounds as shall come in, after that the Forty thousand Pounds designed for the Lord General's Army is fully come in.

Members deserting Parliament.

Resolved, That a Committee shall be appointed to see the Order put in Execution for sequestring the Estates of such Members as do or shall neglect their Service in the House, according to a former Order, of the Nineteenth of this present August:

Mr. Reynolds, Sir Rob. Pye, Mr. Barwig, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Dowse, Sir Jo. Cursen, Mr. Bond, Sir Edw. Littleton, Mr. Maynard, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Mr. Cage, Mr. Hill, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Hoyle, Sir Jo. Young, Lord Ruthen, Mr. Rose, Mr. Solicitor; or any Four: And are to meet To-morrow, post Meridiem, at Two of Clock, in the Star Chamber. Mr. Reynolds to take Care of this Order.

Assembly of Divines.

A Letter from Mr. Marshall and Mr. Philip Nye, from Edinburgh, to Mr. Bifield (to be communicated to the Brethren of the Assembly of Divines of this Kingdom) of the Eighteenth of this instant August, was this Day read:

And it is Ordered, That it be forthwith printed: And that it be recommended unto Mr. Byfield to take care of the printing of it.

It is further Ordered, That the Letter, sent from the Assembly of Divines by Direction of this House, and proved of in this House, be likewise printed.

Exchange of Prisoners.

This House doth approve of the Exchange of Mr. Tho. Lee, Prisoner to the Parliament Forces, for Lieutenant Upton, Prisoner to Sir Ralph Hopton's Forces: and do order, that, upon Certificate that the said Lieutenant Upton is discharged, that the said Mr. Lee shall be forthwith discharged.

Faucaut's Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Claud. Faucaut shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to pass freely to Southampton, and the Isle of Wight.

Letter from Scotland.

Ordered, That the House do take into Consideration To-morrow, whether the Letter, from Mr. Marshall and Mr. Nye, out of Scotland, to Mr. Byfield, already ordered to be printed, shall be ordered to be read in all Churches, the next Fast Day.

Superstitious Monuments.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. *;

The Lords have commanded us to return you an Ordinance which they formerly received from this House, concerning the taking away of all superstitious and idolatrous Monuments out of all Collegiate, Cathedral Churches, and other Parish Churches and Chapels: The which they do agree unto, with Two small Alterations, for the more Conveniency of the Times; viz. the First of "September" made the First of "November;" and the First of "October" the First of "December."

The which Alterations were read; and agreed unto, and ordered to be forthwith printed: And that the Knights and Burgesses do take care of the divulging and dispersing of them.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Alterations.

Proceedings concerning Evelyn.

The Question was propounded, whether Sir Christ. Wray should be enjoined presently to name the Person that related unto him, that Sir Jo. Evelyn, and some other Members of the House, that were earnest for the Propositions, that were sent from the Lords, should be seized;

And then the Question was put, whether this Question should be now put;

It was resolved negatively;

And then, upon the Second Question, It was

Resolved, &c. That Sir Christ. Wray shall be enjoined to bring in, To-morrow Morning the Name of the Person that related unto him, that Sir Jo. Evelyn, and some other Members of the House, that were earnest for the last Propositions, sent down from the Lords, should be seized by some of the Company that came with the Petition.

Upon the Report from the Committee appointed to examine Sir Jo. Evelyn of Surrey, and Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire, upon a Letter written from Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire, from Petworth, to Sir Jo. Evelyn of Surrey;

It was Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire shall be further restrained, in order to a further Examination.

The Question was propounded, whether Sir Jo. Evelyn should be committed to the Tower:

And then the Question was put, whether the Question should be now put; And

It was resolved negatively.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Evelyn be restrained in the Custody of the Serjeant, or his Deputy; who is to permit no Man to speak with him, but in the Presence of his Keeper; nor to suffer him to write any Letters, or to receive any, but such as shall be first seen by the Committee; until the House take further Order: And that in the mean time he be, this Afternoon, further examined.

The Letter he wrote to my Lady Griffith is likewise to be considered of: And the Committee has Power to send for him, and for Sir Jo. Evelyn of Surrey, as they shall see Cause.

Sir H. Heyman and Mr. Blackiston are added.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Evelyn do pay unto the Soldiers, that brought him up, Five Pounds to defray their Charges.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Herbert has Leave to go into the Country for Four or Five Days.

Sir Jo. Evelyn, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Evelyn of Wilteshire, and Sir Jo. Evelyn of Surry, be brought to the Committee this Afternoon, at Four of Clock.

Ordered, That Macham, with whom the Letter from Sir Jo. Evelyn to Sir Jo. Evelyn, was found and intercepted, be committed to the Serjeant's Custody, till the House take further Order.

Customs, &c.

The Commissioners of the Customs, according to an Order on Saturday last, attending, were called in; and delivered in their Answer to the Propositions from the Committee of the Navy, in Writing.

The Commissioners were again called in; and Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, acquainted them, "That whereas, the East India Company is to pay in Two thousand Pounds To-morrow, the House desires you to know, whether you will give Leave to the House to receive that Two thousand Pounds:"

Answer,- No Commission or Direction from the rest of the Commissioners to give any Answer to This; and can as yet give no Answer. They did further desire the House to take Notice, that if the Commissioners should assent to the forbearing of this Two thousand Pounds, that then the first Proposition from the House, touching the Profits of the East India Ships, is fully answered; for this Six thousand Pounds will (they believe) be the whole Sum that shall arise from the Profit of the East India Ships; considering what will be paid back unto them, upon their Exportation.

Ordered, That the Commissioners do return their Answer To-morrow, to the Proposition of this House concerning the Forbearance of Two thousand Pounds, arising from the East India Ships.

Mr. Recorder acquainted the Commissioners therewith.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have received a Letter, and a Petition from the States of Hamburgh; it is for Matter of Money; and therefore they desire this House to consider of it. The Day at this Time is so far spent, that they cannot proceed in the Cause of Justice Berkly; but have appointed to sit To-morrow, at Nine of Clock; and then to go on with that Business: And thought fit to acquaint this House therewith.


Ordered, That the Business of Excise be read, and considered of, the first Business To-morrow.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Brett shall have Leave to go into the Country.