House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 15 April 1643

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, 15 Aprilis, 1643.


Hinton's Pass.

ORDERED, That Mr. Wm. Hinton shall have Mr. Speaker's Pass, to go into France, with his Wife, Mr. Geo. Johnes his Wife's Son, two young Children, and Five Servants, and necessary Baggage; provided that the Names of the Servants be expressed in the Warrant, and that he transport no prohibited Goods.

Member to attend.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Roe be summoned forthwith to attend the Service of the House.

Shemfield Parsonage.

An Ordinance for sequestring the Rents and Profits of the Parsonage of Shemfield, in the County of Essex, whereof Dr. Childersley is Rector, into the Hands of divers Sequestrators, named in the said Ordinance, to the Use, and for the Benefit of Henry Goodyere, Master of Arts, a learned and orthodox Divine; who, at the Desire of the Parishioners, is thereby required, and enjoined to preach, every Lord's Day, and to officiate as Rector, and to take care for the Discharge of the Cure of the said Church, in all the Duties thereof, until both Houses shall take further Order; was this Day read; and by Vote, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Aldenham Vicarage.

An Ordinance for sequestring the Rents and Profits of the Vicarage of Aldenham, whereof Joseph Soame is Vicar, into the Hands of certain Sequestrators, named in the said Ordinance, to the Use, and for the Benefit of John Gilpin, Master of Arts, a godly, learned, and orthodox Divine; who is thereby required to preach every Lord's Day, and to officiate as Vicar, and take care for the Discharge of the Cure of the said Church, in all the Duties thereof, until further Order shall be taken by both Houses of Parliament; was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Coal Trade.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Navy, to consider of supplying the City with Coals for the future: And they are required to give a speedy Account of their Resolutions herein to the House.

Naval Affairs.

Sir H. Vane, Sir H. Anderson, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Blakiston, Mr. Henry Darley, Mr. Rigby;

This Committee is appointed to consider of providing for the Safety of the Northern Coasts; and have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records; and are to meet when and where they please.

A Letter from the Earl of Warwick, of the Twelfth of April, from the Downes, from aboard the Prince; desiring Five or Six good Merchant Men of War, to send to the Northern Coasts; was this Day read: And it is

Ordered, That Mr. Green do return Answer to the Earl of Warwick; and acquaint him, that this House desires to receive a second Information, concerning the Dunkirke Ships, before they charge the State with more Ships.

Instructions for Agents.

Ordered, That Sir H. Vane, jun. be added to the Committee for preparing Instructions for Agents: And to consider of an Agent to be sent into France.

Detention of Alcock, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Alcock, and the Lady Byron, be stayed, and kept in safe Custody with the Serjeant, until the House take further Order; and that the Examination of this Business be referred to the Committee for Examinations: And that a Conference be desired with the Lords, concerning this Matter of Passes. And the Lords Concurrence to be desired, and earnestly pressed.

Military Affairs.

A Letter from sir Wm. Waller, and Sir Arthur Heselrig, from Gloucester, of the Twelfth of April; relating the Passages of his Forces in Wales, and the good Success it has pleased God to bless him with; was this Day read; and ordered to be delivered to the Lords at a Conference; and to be printed: And that the Members of this House that are of the Committee for the Safety of the * *

Conference desired.

Lord Cranborne went up to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning a Letter received from Sir Wm. Waller and Sir Arth. Heselrig: And, likewise, concerning Passes to Oxon, and to the King's Quarter.

Conference with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

The Lords desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, by Committees of both Houses, concerning a Letter, and some Papers they have received from the Earl of Northumberland, from Oxon: And, likewise, to communicate a Letter they have received from his Majesty of France, touching the Capuchins.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Glyn, Mr. Waller, Mr. Pym, Mr. Holles, are appointed Managers, and Reporters of this Conference.

Lord Cranborne brings Answer, That the Lords will give a present Meeting, at a Conference, upon the Heads desired, as is desired.

Money for Army Service.

Ordered, That the Hundred Pounds, assessed upon Mr. Griggs; the Hundred Pounds, assessed upon Mr. Bromfield; the Hundred Pounds, likewise assessed upon the Lady Dane; together with the Hundred Pounds, assessed upon Mrs. Baker; be, with all Diligence, gathered in by Mr. Dallison, Clerk of the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, with the Help of Colonel Ven: And, being by him received, he is hereby required to make Payment of the same, or so much as he shall receive of either of the Parties before-mentioned, unto the Treasurers at Guildhall, London; who are hereby likewise required forthwith, upon the Receipt thereof, to make Payment of the same unto Colonel Venn, towards Payment of the Arrears due unto his Regiment, now in Windsor Castle: And they are further ordered to pass the same, upon Account, with Sir Gilb. Gerard, Treasurer of the Army; whereby he may charge the same, upon the Account of Colonel Ven.

Raising Money.

Sir Jo. Gayer, Sir Jacob Garrard, Alderman Adams, Alderman Reynardson, Sir George Clarke, Alderman Chambers, Mr. Geo. Henley, Mr. Joseph Parker, Mr. Peter Jones, Deputy Ashwell, John Kendricke, Mr. Rich. Bateman, Mr. Michael Herringe, Mr. Robert Mead, Mr. Jo. Strang, Mr. George Boothby, Mr. Chr. Pache, Mr. Caleb Cockcroft, Mr. Jeoffry Howland, Mr. Rich. Waringe;

Ordered, That the Persons above-named be required to attend the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, appointed to consider of raising of Monies, by laying a Charge upon Commodities for the Maintenance of the Parliament Forces by Sea and Land, and for the better Support of Trade: And that they shall likewise have Power to meet, of themselves, at such times as the said Committee shall appoint them; and to prepare and dispose Matters for that Committee: And shall have Power to send for Parties, to give them Information, upon all Occasions, for the better Advance of the Service.

Message from Lords.

Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

That the Lords do agree to the Printing of Sir Wm. Waller's Letter; and to a Letter of Thanks to be sent unto him: And that they do suspend the Protection to the Lady Byron to pass to Oxforde: And, touching the Declaration, that none should pass between Oxforde and London, without Licence of the Lord General, or both Houses, they desire it may be considered of at the Committee, this Afternoon, at Four a Clock.


Ordered, That an Answer be returned to the Lords, to this Message; that this House doth agree, that the Business concerning Passes to and from Oxon, be considered of by the Committee, this Afternoon.

Treaty with the King, and removing the Capuchins.

Mr. Hollis reports the last Conference:

"That the Earl of Manchester, as Speaker of the House of Peers, first told us, that they had received a Letter from the Earl of Northumberland, one of the Committees at Oxforde; together with divers Papers, which concerned the Treaty.-The Letter was read; the Papers were delivered, without Reading.-"After which, the Earl of Manchester said, that the Lords would deliver no Opinion of the Particulars of these Answers: But they had commanded him, in the general, to observe unto this House, that they find them to be fair and smooth, and such, that, upon the Breach of the Treaty, there may be Use made of them to the Kingdom to engage them in a Belief that Peace is most desired by the King: And therefore, the Lords wish we may so resolve, both in our Actions and Answers, that we may not find a Prejudice, by the Opinion of these Expressions: And that they desire, that the Committee, formerly named, may meet at Four of the Clock this Afternoon."

"That the second Part of the Conference was concerning the Capuchins; which was delivered, by the Earl of Holland, to this Effect: That their Lordships had been acquainted with a Letter the French King had sent to Secretary de Bures; which, he said, was to this Purpose; that the French King did take notice of some Earnestness and Violence which had passed concerning the Capuchins, which had been so represented by his Secretary; and that it was a Breach of the Treaty; and that the King did receive it with a high Sense; but would take no Exceptions, till he saw what Reparations would be made. He said, further, the Lords would have taken notice of this, but that it concerned the Publick; but have passed it by, as they conceive They themselves have been in this Business. As for the removing of the Capuchins from a monastical Way, they did approve of it; and if they had been taken along in this Business, something might have been better done, in the managing of it; but conceive it much in order to the publick Safety, that a neighbour Prince, so potent, might not remain unsatisfied: And therefore, that some Declaration may be made to that Purpose; and that, in the mean time, the Capuchins be stayed in the Custody of the Sheriffs of London, where they now are; and not sent to Sea, as they are informed this House intends to do."

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee appointed for the Treaty and Propositions, to make a State of the Business upon the Papers this Day received from his Majesty; to represent to the House, what is granted; what is denied: And they are to meet the Committee of the Lords, to this Purpose, this Afternoon, at Four of Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Resolved, &c. That the Declaration, relating the Proceedings in the Matter of the Removal of the Capuchins, be brought in on Monday next.

Resolved, &c. That this House will insist upon the former Order, for sending away the Capuchins.

Resolved, &c. That a Conference shall be desired with the Lords, on Monday Morning; and the Grounds of the Proceedings upon the Removal of the Capuchins, delivered to the Lords, at that Conference.

Transporting Horses.

Resolved, &c. That Marquis de Vienoille shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant for the transporting of Sixteen Horses into France, his Coach Horses being comprehended within this Number.

Military Supplies.

Resolved, &c. That it be particularly referred to the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, to furnish my Lord Gray, at Leicester, with Six Pieces of Ordnance, a Thousand Muskets, their Equipage and Furniture; and likewise, with Ammunition; and to send them away with all Speed; and to give a speedy Account to the House.

Coal Trade.

Forasmuch as this House hath been informed, that, notwithstanding the Ordinance concerning the Prices of Coals; yet the Wharfingers, Chandlers, and Coal Sellers, do exact unreasonable Prices, to the great Oppression of the poorer Sort of the Inhabitants of the City of London, and the Parts adjacent: It is therefore Ordered, that the Lord Mayor do forthwith put the Order in Execution, concerning the Price of Coals; and that he give a speedy Account thereof to this House, that, in case he find any Obstruction, this House may think of a Course to remove the same: And that such as shall refuse to conform themselves to that Ordinance, the Lord Mayor do forthwith seize on their Coals, and dispose of them to the Poor; paying for them after the Rate set upon them, according to that Ordinance; and the Monies thereupon to be raised, be paid to the Owners of the Coals: And likewise, that he take care, that the Chandlers, and other Retailers of Coals, do not sell any Coals by the Bushel, or any other way of Retail, at any higher or greater Rate, than according to the Rate of Three-and-twenty Shillings the Chaldron, according as it is limited and appointed by the said Ordinance: And that they be compelled to sell according to the said Rate. And it is further Ordered, That the Marshal of the Admiralty be ordered to take a Course, that such Ships as are laden with Coals be brought to London, to vent them.

Ordered, That this Order be forthwith published in Print.