House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 27 April 1643

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 27 Aprilis, 1643.



ORDERED, That Mr. Speaker shall give a Warrant to one of the Cursitors, and a Messenger, to go to Oxon: And that the Writs stayed by the Committees for Examinations be delivered unto them.

Ordered, That the Cursitors do keep in their Hands the Profits of sealing the original Writs, and not deliver them over to Mr. Winne, or any other, until this House take further Order.

Persons to attend.

Ordered, That Mr. Winne be forthwith summoned to attend this House in safe Custody.

Ordered, That Mr. Bowen be summoned forthwith to attend the House.

Abercem's Petition.

Ordered, That the Petition of Geo. Abercem, Prisoner in the Gate-house, be referred to the Committee for Examinations; and that they shall have Power to discharge him, if they shall find good Cause.

Arms for Norfolk.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Potts shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant, to pass Four hundred Arms into Norfolk; which, at the Intreaty of the County, he has prepared for the Service of that County; and that the said Arms be paid for, out of the Thousand Pounds worth of Plate at Norwich.

Raising Money.

Ordered, That the several Committees for raising and bringing in of Monies, do, every Saturday, give an Account to the House of their Proceedings therein.

Message to Lords.

Sir Walth. Erle is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference concerning some Passages in my Lord General's Letter.

He likewise carried up the Names of two additional Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Dorset.

Raising Money.

Ordered; That one Head of this Conference shall be, to move the Lords to declare, that they will join with this House, in giving any particular or publick Security, for raising of Monies for the Supply of the Armies: And to acquaint them, that the City has called Common Council; which is to meet this Day, at Twelve of Clock: And to desire, that they will name a Committee, that may join with a Committee of this House, to declare this much to the Common Council: And likewise, that the Committee may have Power to satisfy and remove all such Obstructions, as they shall find, in collecting or bringing in of Monies: And to recommend unto them the raising of additional Forces, for Supply of my Lord General's Army, in the best manner they may, both for reinforcing of that Army, and for preventing any Supplies to go to the other Army.

The Lords are likewise to be moved to pass the Ordinance for assessing such as have not contributed at all, or not proportionable to their Estates.

Sir Walth. Erle brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to a present Conference, as is desired; and to the Two Deputy Lieutenants to be added to those of the County of Dorsett.

Mr. Pym, Sir H. Vane, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Mr. Pym reports, that the Lords do agree to the Propositions brought up to them at the last Conference; only they intend not that any of their House should be compelled to give his Security: And as to the Ordinance concerning the assessing such as have not contributed at all, or not proportionable to their Estates, they gave no Answer at all.

Plate at Norwich.

Ordered, That the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Norfolk shall cause the Thousand Pounds worth of Plate at Norwich, brought in upon the Propositions, to be forthwith conveyed to Mr. Daniel Collins and Mr. Wm. Cory, to be forthwith coined; and that, out of the same, the Charge of the Arms, bought by the Direction of the Deputy Lieutenants, for the Use of the said County, shall be defrayed, by the said Mr. Collins and Mr. Cory.

Transactions with the City.

Sir H. Vane jun. Mr. Vassall, Mr. Strode, Sir Martin Lumley, Sir H. Mildmay, Mr. Pym.

This Committee is appointed to go, with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to the Common Council, with this Power:

1. To give Thanks to the Lord Mayor and Aldermen, for their Readiness in engaging themselves, in their personal Security, for the raising of the last Forty-four thousand Pounds, for the Lord General's Army:

2. To let them know, that divers Members, of both Houses, will, either by their personal Security, or publick Faith, apply themselves for a further Supply of the Army at this time, that they may not want, but be encouraged to continue in Action; and that they will esteem it a very great Service, if there be any of the City, under the Degree of Aldermen, will do the like, to be secured by the Assessments of the Counties, as the Aldermen have been by the City:

3. That they recommend it to the Common Council (upon Occasion of the Lord General's Letter) to prepare what Forces of Horse, Dragooners, and Foot, they can, to be in Readiness, either for Security of the City, and Counties adjacent; or for strengthening the Lord General's Army; as there shall be Occasion:

4. That they recommend to the Common Council the speedy bringing in the Monies upon the weekly Assessments; and if they find Obstructions, to let them know, that the Houses will be ready to apply their Authority to remove them; and have given their Committee, now sent unto them, Power to contribute what they can to that End, by their present Advice.

Surrey Contribution, &c.

Ordered, That the Committee for Examination, shall have Power to send for such Gentlemen of Surrey, as they have and shall be informed have not contributed upon the Propositions, and to propound unto them to contribute; and if they shall not, to disarm them, and to commit them to Prison.

Ordered, That this Committee shall have the like Power, in relation to all other Counties; and likewise, to assess them proportionable to their Estates; and to give Order to levy the said Assessments upon their Estates.

Information concerning Howland.

Ordered, That the Business informed of concerning Sir Jo. Howland's hindring the Service upon the weekly Assessments, be referred to the Committee for Examinations.

Duke d' Espernon.

Mr. Holles, Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Marten, are appointed to speak with the Duke d' Espernon, and to acquaint him with the Information this House has received concerning him, by Letters out of the West Country.

Essex, &c. Forces.

An Ordinance for raising of Monies to maintain the Forces raised in the Five associated Counties of Essex, Norfolk, &c. was read; and re-committed unto the Committee for the Association.

Raising Money.

Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed to consider of raising of Monies, by laying a Charge upon Commodities, shall meet, at what convenient times they shall think fit, between this and Saturday next; and send for such Persons as they shall think fit; and confer with them upon this Return from the Committee of London, concerning a Charge to be laid upon Commodities: And that they shall have Power to confer with that Committee of London, about any other ways of raising of Monies to be employed to the Purposes mentioned in the former Order: And that the House, in a Committee, do take into Consideration this Business, on Saturday Morning next.

King's Children's Servants.

It is this Day Ordered, That Mr. Cornelius Holland, one of the Members of this House, shall pay all such Assessments as are or shall be, by virtue of any Ordinance of Parliament, charged upon the Servants that attend the Duke of Gloucester, and the Princess Elizabeth: And the said Mr. Holland is to deduct the same out of their respective Wages, or Entertainment, that he is to pay them for their said Service. And all Collectors and Officers are to take notice of this Order, and, upon Sight of a Copy thereof, produced by any of the said Servants, they are to forbear to trouble them, or their Families; but are to give Notice of their Names, and Sums imposed upon them, unto the said Mr. Holland; who is to pay and deduct the same out of their Wages, as aforesaid.

Gardiner's Claims.

Whereas Samuel Gardiner Gentleman, Mayor of the Borough of Evesham, in the County of Worcester, out of his good Affection to the publick Service, upon the Sixteenth Day of January now last past, hath lent and disbursed to Robert late Lord Brook, deceased, late General of the Forces raised in the Counties of Warwick and Stafford, for the Defence of the King, Parliament, and Kingdom, from the mischievous and bloody Designs of Papists, and other ill-affected Persons, the Sum of One thousand Pounds, for Three Months, freely, without any Interest, from the said Sixteenth Day of January last past; and hath also, in his own Person, with a Troop of Horse, raised, furnished and maintained at his own Charge, been aiding and assisting to the said Service; and hath underwritten, and brought in, upon the Propositions, a Hundred Pounds in Money, and Ten Horses, and Two hundred and fifty Pounds, towards the reducing of Ireland: The Commons do declare, that the said Samuel Gardiner hath done good and acceptable Service to the Commonwealth, in all and every the Premisses: And do further ordain, that the said Sum of One thousand Pounds, with Consideration, from this present Day, after the Rate of Eight in the Hundred, shall be repaid to him, out of the public Stock, with all convenient Speed; and this Money to be charged by the Treasurer at Wars, upon the Lord Brook's Account.