House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 30 August 1644

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, Augusti 30, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Denbigh's Association.

ORDERED, That Mr. Purefoy, at his own Desire, be dismissed from the Committee concerning the Earl of Denbigh's Association; and that Mr. Ashherst be put in his stead.

Rolle's Grant.

Whereas, by the Order of Julii 26 1644, it was Ordered, That all Committees appointed by Parliament should be assisting to John Rolle Esquire, a Member of this House, in the Levying of the Monies assigned unto him upon the Estate of Sir Paul Pindar and others, mentioned in the said Order; it is this Day Ordered, That the Committees of Sequestrations should be joined in the said Order; and should be assisting unto the said Mr. Rolle, in the Levying of the said Monies upon the Estates of Sir Paul Pindar, and the others mentioned in the said Order.

Military Successes.

A Letter from Sir Wm. Brereton, of Augusti 23 1644, from Northwiche, relating the great Success it pleased God to give the Lancashire and Cheshire. Forces over the whole Body of the Enemy, in routing their whole Forces, and taking above Eight hundred of their Horse, &c. was this Day read. And

It is Ordered, That the Letter, as to that Request concerning the King's Revenue, that it be referred to the Committee of the Revenue, to send an Answer to it.

Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House that are of the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed for the Earl of Denbigh's Association, shall not proceed with any of those Matters that concern Sir Wm. Brereton, or Sir Tho. Middleton, till the House take further Order.

Ordered, That Mr. Ashherst do prepare a Letter to be sent unto Sir Wm. Brereton, to return him the Thanks of this House, for his great and faithful Services.

He is likewise to prepare a Letter to be sent unto Sir Jo. Meldrum, and the Lancashire Gentlemen, to return them the Thanks of this House, for their great Services done and performed to the Kingdom.

Lord Brooke's Wardship, &c.

An Ordinance for Discharging of F. Lord Brooke, Son and Heir of Robert Lord Brooke, deceased, from Composition for his Wardship; and for granting of his Wardship to his Mother, the Lady Catharine Brooke, to his Use; and for the settling the House, with the Appurtenances, of Jo. Earl of Bristoll, or Geo. Lord Digby, in Queen-street in the County of Middlesex, upon the said Lady, and Foulke Grevile her youngest Son, and the Heirs of his Body, with Remainders over; was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence, by Mr. Solicitor.

He is likewise to carry up the Petition of the Lady Brooke.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Roger Hill shall have Leave to go into the Country, and to stay for some Fourteen Days.

Loan for Plymouth.

An Ordinance for securing Five thousand Pounds borrowed of the Collectors of the One per Cent. for Plymouth, &c. was this Day read the First time; and, upon the Question, passed: And

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired herein.

Wounded Soldiers, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, do, out of the Monies assigned to my Lord General, issue forth Fifty Pounds to Philip Francis, late Mayor of Plymouth, to make Provision of Surgeons Chests, for the Dressing of sick and wounded Soldiers of my Lord General's Army, sent from thence to Plymouth to be cured.

Ceely's Losses.

An Ordinance for the Reparation of the Losses of Thomas Ceely, Governor of Lyme Regis, was this Day read the First time; and ordered . . . . . the Second time To-morrow.

Commissioners of Excise.

The Title to the Commissioners of Excise, Propositions, or Instructions, was read; and assented unto: And

Ordered, That the Propositions or Instructions should be sent to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

And . . . . were carried up by Mr. Solicitor.

Stores for Weymouth.

Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do issue out of the Stores Fifty Barrels of Powder for the Service of the Town of Weymouth.

Complaints of French Merchants.

Mr. Speaker presented, from the French Resident, a Representation of the Complaints of divers French Merchants, concerning the Surprizal of their Ships and Goods, in French: The which was read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee of the Navy; to translate; and to examine the Matter of Fact; and to report it to the House.

Restitution of Dutch Ships.

Upon Mr. Greene's Report from the Committee appointed to treat with the States Ambassadors, it is Ordered, That Power be given to the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to treat with the States Ambassadors, to grant or deny Restitution of the Ships Thomas Bonaventure, Paul of Rotterdam, and Good Falcon, as they shall see Cause, upon further Conference with the said Ambassadors.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Green carried it up; and likewise the Order for the Excise of Nottingham.

Lady Campden's Legacy.

Mr. Rigby reported, from the Committee, an Ordinance concerning the Legacy of the Lady Campden: The which was read the Third Time:

And the Question being put, for the Passing of it;

It passed with the Negative.

Advances from Excise.

Ordered, That Mr. Rigby and Mr. Jephson do prepare an Ordinance for securing and reimbursing the Commissioners of Excise the One thousand Two hundred Pounds advanced by them for the Service of the Forces lately come out of Wareham: And they are to go to the Commissioners of Excise, to press them to the present Advance of the said One thousand Two hundred Pounds, in regard of the important and present Necessity thereof.

Scottor Rectory.

Sir Jo. Wray is appointed to bring in an Ordinance concerning the bestowing of the Rectory of Scottor in Lincolneshire, upon Mr. Coleman.

Army Pay.

Upon Sir Tho. Widdrington's Report from the Committee appointed to consider of supplying the Necessities of my Lord Fairefaxe's Army; it is Ordered, That the Committee of Goldsmiths Hall do make Dispatch of the Matters committed unto them, for the Raising of a Month's Pay for my Lord Fairefaxe's Army.

Sequestered Books.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to consider of Sequesterable Books do give Order, that the Books of the Archbishop of Armagh, and the Lord Herbert of Cherberry, formerly assigned to be sold, and the Proceed to be employed for the Service of my Lord Fairefaxe's Army, may be forthwith sold, according to former Order: And that Mr. White do take care to see them sold to the best Advantage.

Lord Mayor of Yorke.

An Ordinance for appointing Tho. Hoyle Esquire, a Member of this House, and Alderman of the City of Yorke, Lord Mayor of the said . . . . &c. was this Day read the First time; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Monthly Assessments.

Ordered, That Mr. Wheeler and Mr. Trenchard do inquire into the State of the Arrears of the monthly Assessments in London, Westminster, Lines of Communication, and Borough of Southwarke; and to report To-morrow the Condition of the said Monies, what is come in, what in Arrear, and what are the Obstructions.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

That the Lords have appointed Ten of their House to consider what is fit to be done upon the Coming of the Prince Elector into England; and desire this House to appoint a proportionable Number, to meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings.

That to the First Propositions concerning Peace, this Exception may be added; viz. "All Indictments, Outlawries, and Attainders, against any, for any of the said Causes, be annulled, and made void."

They do agree to the Order for ordering the War of Ireland, by the Committee of both Kingdoms, with an Addition.

They do desire the Concurrence of this House, in a Pass for the Lord Marquis de Brossay, and Four Horses or Geldings, to go into France.

Prince Elector.

Sir Hen. Vane, Sir Hen. Heyman, Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Mr. Pierrepont, Mr. Crew, Sir Phil. Stapilton, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Bond, Sir Gilbert Pykering, Lord Herbert, Mr. Recorder, Sir Robert Pye, Sir Ben. Rudyerd, Sir Symonds D'Ewes, Mr. Holland, Mr. Whitelock, Lord Grey, Mr. Sam. Browne, Mr. Baynton, Mr. Knightley;

This Committee is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings, to consider what is fit to be done upon the Prince Elector's coming into England.

Propositions for Peace.

The Words, desired by the Lords, to be added to the First Proposition for Peace, were read; and assented unto, to be added.

Irish Affairs.

The Addition to the Order for referring the carrying on the War of Ireland to the Committee of both Kingdoms, viz. To have Power to appoint Sub Committees "out of the Adventurers for Ireland," was read; and assented unto.

Marquis du Brossay's Pass.

Ordered, That this House doth concur with the Lords, in granting a Pass to the Marquis du Brossay, with Four Men, to pass to any Port of this Kingdom, to embark themselves for France, taking with them Four Horses or Geldings, Custom-free; provided that they embark at any Port under the Power of the Parliament; and that the Servants be named in the Pass.

Transporting Horses.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do grant his Pass for Two Galloway Nags, and Two little . . . . . to be transported into France, by a Groom, for the Use of the French King himself.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed a Committee to join with the Lords, as is desired, to consider what is fit to be done upon the Prince Elector's coming into England: Do agree to the Addition desired to the First Proposition for Peace; to the Alteration desired in the Order for referring the carrying on the War of Ireland to the Committee of both Kingdoms; to the Substance of the Pass for Marquis du Brossay.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Solicitor brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance concerning the young Lord and the Lady Brooke: And, as to the Instructions for the Commissioners of Excise, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Clerk of the Ordnance.

Ordered, That the Report concerning the Clerkship of the Deliveries in the Office of the Ordnance in the Tower, be made To-morrow Morning: And that Sir Walth. Erle have Notice hereof.

Lord Mayor of York.

An Ordinance of Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, whereby Thomas Hoyle Esquire, one of the Aldermen of the City of York, and one of the Members of the House of Commons, is appointed to exercise the Power and Authority of the Mayor of the City of York, until a new Mayor be there elected, according to the Usage and Charters of the City.

Whereas Sir Edmond Couper Knight, one of the Aldermen of the City of York, was heretofore (that is to say), upon the Twentieth Day of January, in the Year of our Lord God One thousand Six hundred and Fortyone, elected Mayor of the said City, from the Feast of Blase then following, for one whole Year then next ensuing; but, in the Year following (that is to say), upon the Fifteenth Day of January, in the Year of our Lord God One thousand Six hundred and Forty-two, when the Election of a new Mayor should have been made, the same was interrupted and hindered, by Force and Arms; so that no Election could be made according to the Usage and Charters of the said City; yet the said Sir Edmond Couper, howbeit his Office of Mayoralty did, according to the said Usage and Charters, determine upon the Third Day of February, called Blase's Day, which was in the Year of our Lord God One thousand Six hundred and Forty-two; yet the said Sir Edmond Couper hath ever sithence, till this present Time, exercised the Place and Authority of the Mayor of the said City; which he hath so done, without any just Ground or Warrant: Therefore the said Lords and Commons do Declare, That the Office and Place of the Mayor of the said City of York is actually void; and that the said Sir Edmond Couper is not in Truth Mayor of the said City. And because there is no Mayor for the present there, and for that it is most fitting and necessary, for the Good and peaceable Government of the said City, that some able and faithful Person be intrusted with the Power and Authority of the Mayor of the said City, until a Mayor be chosen there, according to the Usage and Charters of the said City; The Lords and Commons being well assured of the Ability and Fidelity of Thomas Hoyle Esquire, one of the Aldermen of the said City, and a Member of the House of Commons, hold him a fit Person to be intrusted with the said Place and Authority: Therefore the said Lords and Commons do hereby Appoint and Ordain the said Thomas Hoyle to exercise the Place, Office and Authority, of the Mayor of the said City of York, until a Mayor be chosen there, according to the Usage and Charters of the said City. And the said Lords and Commons do further Ordain, That he the said Thomas Hoyle shall exercise the Place and Authority of the Mayor there; and all and every thing and things as Mayor to do, which the Mayor of the said City, by Charter, or any lawful Usage or Prescription, have done, or might do; and shall have, receive, and take all the Profits, Advantages and Emoluments belonging, or in any wise appertaining, unto the Mayor of the said City for the Time being, in as large, ample, and beneficial manner, as any Mayor of the said City for the Time being, heretofore had used or enjoyed the same: And do hereby Will and Require all and every the Citizens of the said City, and all and every other Person and Persons, that they give Obedience to the said Thomas Hoyle, as to the Mayor of the said City for the Time being, until a Mayor be chosen there, according to the Usage and Charters of the said City. And the said Lords and Commons do hereby give Leave to the said Thomas Hoyle to take upon him the Trust and Charge of the said Office. Provided always, nevertheless, and it is hereby Ordained, That the said Thomas Hoyle shall still continue a Member of the said House of Commons: And provided also, and it is further Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, That this present Ordinance, nor any Matter or Thing therein contained, shall not, in any sort whatsoever, be prejudicial, for the Time to come, to the Rights, Privileges and Franchises of the said City of York, or of any of the Citizens thereof, in the Election of a Mayor within the said City; but that all and every time and times hereafter, when and as often as a new Mayor is to be elected there, according to the Usage and Charters of the said City, the said Citizens, or such Number of them, to whom, by Usage or Charters, the Right of the said Election doth or shall appertain, may proceed to the Election of a new Mayor there; and may have, use, exercise and enjoy, all their other Rights, Franchises, Liberties and Immunities therein, in as free and ample manner to all Intents and Purposes, as they, or any of them, have at any time heretofore held, used, exercised or enjoyed the same; any thing in this present Ordinance contained to the contrary hereof in anywise notwithstanding.