House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 2 October 1644

Pages 648-649

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, Octobris 2, 1644.


Army Affairs.

TWO Letters, from Portesmouth, from the Commissaries, of Septembris 27 & 26 concerning Caps for the Foot Soldiers; and concerning Commissary Copley's personal Pay, the Pay of his Troop, and his Servants, as Commissary; were this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That the Commissioners in my Lord General's Army do give Order, That the Troop of Commissary Copley, and his Servants and Deputies, be paid, according to the Rule of the Army.

Resolved, &c. That the Pay of Commissary Lionell Copley, as Commissary of the Foot Musters, and all other his personal Pay, be suspended and checked, from the Time of his first being questioned here.

Ordered, That Commissary Lionell Copley do forthwith pay in, to the Treasurers at Guildhall, the whole Sum of Monies appearing, upon the Certificate of the Committee appointed to take the Accounts of the Kingdom, to be by him due to the State, upon the Examination of his Accounts.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee appointed for providing Cloaths for the Foot of my Lord General's Army, do consider of preparing of Three thousand Caps for my Lord General's Foot.

Trial of Lord Macguire, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Rolle, Mr. Bradshaw, and Mr. Prynne, be appointed and assigned as Counsel for the King, to prepare and manage the Evidence at the Trial of the Lord Macguire, and Mac Maon, the Two Irish Rebels.

The Serjeant is appointed to send this Order to these Gentlemen.

Ordination of Ministers.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Ordination of Ministers, pro tempore, be forthwith printed: And that it be sent to the Assembly of Divines, to take care of the Printing thereof.

Earl of Manchester's Association.

The House being informed, That divers Gentlemen of the Earl of Manchester's Association were at the Door, who desire to present a Petition to the House;

They were called in; And did prefer a Petition, desiring some Addition of Maintenance from the Publick, for the Support of their vast Necessities.

The which was read; and ordered to be taken into Consideration on Friday Morning, the first Business: And Mr. Speaker to put the House in mind hereof.

It is further Ordered, That the Business concerning Northamptonshire and Rutlandshire be taken into Consideration at the same time.

The Gentlemen were again called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, took notice of their great and faithful Industries; and returned them the Thanks of the House.

The Gentlemen acquainting the House, That they had the like Petition to prefer to the Lords; the Subject of the Petition being Matter of Money, the House would give no Consent unto it.

There was another Petition presented from the Committee of the Association at Cambridge, desiring that no reconciled Delinquents, Neutrals, or disaffected Persons, be added to any Committee or Commission: The which was read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Earl of Manchester's Association: Who are to confer with the Petitioners; and to consider of the Names of such reconciled Delinquents, Neutrals, or disaffected Persons; and to present a List of them to the House; that the House may do therein as to Justice may appertain, for the Satisfaction of the Petitioners Desires herein; And they are to meet upon it this Afternoon.

Business deferred.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Widdrington do, on Friday Morning next, after the Business concerning the Earl of Manchester's Association, and the Counties of Northampton and Rutland, shall be dispatched,. . . .

Message to Lords.

Mr. Baynton carried up to the Lords, the Order for One hundred Pounds to the Commissioners of Martial Law, out of Haberdashers Hall: The Order for One thousand Pounds out of the Excise, for the English Reformadoes.

Collections of Customs, &c.

Mr. Green reports from the Committee, The Propositions made by the Committee of the Navy to the Commissioners of the Customs, for the regulating the Collections of the Customs; and for the Advance of Monies for the Carrying-on the Affairs of the Navy; and the Answers of the Commissioners of the Customs in Writing.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee especially appointed to treat with the Commissioners of the Customs, to consider of and inquire into what way the Collection of the Customs may be put in, for the better Regulating thereof; and for the Raising of the Customs to the best Advantage of the Publick, for the Carrying-on of the Affairs of the Navy; and to put their Conceptions upon the whole Matter in Writing; that it may appear to the House how the Customs may be managed and collected to the better Advantage of the Publick; and how the Occasions of the Navy, at this present very pressing, may be supplied.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Baynton brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Two Orders carried up by him.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

Earl Manchester's Association.

The Lords have sent down the Ordinance for maintaining the Forces of the associated Counties under the Command of the Earl of Manchester: To which they do agree, with some Amendments; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Kirklington Minister.

They have likewise received the Desire of my Lord Fairefaxe, for the recommending of Mr. Wm. Clarkson, Master of Arts, and Chaplain to the Lord Fairefaxe, to the Parish of Kirklington in the North Riding of the County of Yorke.

The which was read: And

It is Ordered, That Mr. Clarkson do repair to the Assembly of Divines, and bring from them, to this House, a Certificate of his Abilities, and Fitness for that Place.

Earl of Manchester's Association.

The Amendments to the Ordinance for the Earl of Manchester's Association were read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: And as to the Amendments to the Ordinance for the Earl of Manchester's Association, they do consent unto them: And as to the Ordinance concerning Mr. Clerkson, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Narrative concerning Lord Macguire, &c.

Sir Jo. Clottworthy presents from the Committee of Lords and Commons appointed for that Purpose, The Narrative of the Proceedings of the Houses of Parliament, in discovering the late Escape of the Lord Macguire and Hugh Mac Mahoon out of the Tower; and the Apprehending of certain Persons that have been the Abettors and Concealers of these Traitors; The which was read; and, upon the Question, re-committed: And the Care of it is especially recommended to Mr. Holles, and Sir Jo. Clottworthy.