House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 5 October 1644

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 5 October 1644', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644, (London, 1802) pp. 653-655. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol3/pp653-655 [accessed 20 April 2024]

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Die Sabbati, Octobris 5, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Trial of Macguire, &c.

ORDERED, That Mr. Gabriel Beck, of Lincolne's Inn, be assigned Solicitor to the Counsel assigned for managing the Evidence at the Trial of Macguire and Mac Maon.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Counsel assigned for the Trial of Macguire and Mac Mahon, to consider of the Trial of Macguire and Mac Mahon at... King's Bench.

Army Affairs.

A Letter from the Commissioners of my Lord General's Army, of October 2d 1644, from Cowes, was this Day read; and referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms; to put the Lord General's Foot into Motion.

Ordered, That no Trooper or Foot Soldier do come out of their Quarters; but that they have their Horses and Arms in their Quarters.

Ordered, That Colonel Purefoy do acquaint the Commissioners of Martial Law, that the House does expect an Account of the Orders made concerning Soldiers coming from their Colours.

Punishing Deserters.

Ordered, That all such Soldiers as are entertained and in the Pay of any Army raised by Authority of Parliament, that shall quit that Army, and take Pay and Entertainment in another Army, shall be punished by Death: And that all Officers that shall knowingly entertain any Soldier of another Army, shall be liable to such Punishment as the Commissioners for Martial Law shall think fit.

The Commissioners for Martial Law are to take care of the Execution of this Order.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Officers neglecting their Charge.

Ordered, That all such Officers as are in the Pay of the Parliament, that are come from their Charge, and shall not quit the Town by Tuesday next, and repair to their respective Charges, unless they be here by the Leave of their Commander in Chief upon the Place, or shall attend by any Order of the Parliament, shall have their Pay chequed, and lose their Arrears: And the respective Treasurers and Commissaries are to take Notice hereof, as they will answer the contrary.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein; and that they may be printed.

Colonel Ware.

Ordered, That my Lord General be desired to send up Colonel Ware in safe Custody unto this House.

Securing Reding, &c.

Ordered, That it be recommended to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take some speedy Course, that the Garisons and Towns of Reding and Abington may be secured.

Bucks, &c. Committee.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Three Counties of Bucks, Berks, and Oxon, be joined to the Committee of Goldsmiths Hall, as to the Ordinance concerning the Plate in the Tower; and compounding with Delinquents in the Counties of Oxon, Bucks, and Berks: And that the Members of this House, as are of the Committee of Goldsmiths Hall, and the Committee of the Three Counties of Bucks, Berks, and Oxon, do meet this Afternoon, in the Exchequer Chamber, upon the said Ordinance; and report the same on Monday next.

Earl of Peterborough's Arrears.

Ordered, That, out of the concealed Estates of Delinquents as shall be discovered by the Countess of Peterborough, and such as shall appear to the Committee of Examinations to be Delinquents Estates, and formerly concealed and discovered by her Ladyship, the Arrears due unto the Earl of Peterburgh, upon Debenture, for his Entertainment in the Parliament's Service, shall be paid and satisfied: And that the Residue shall be employed for the Service of the Three Counties of Oxon, Bucks, and Berks.

Narration concerning Lord Macguire, &c.

A brief and plain Narration of the Proceedings of the Parliament of England, in discovering the late Escape of the Lord Macguire and Hugh Mac Mahon out of the Tower, and the apprehending of certain Persons that have been the Abettors and Concealers of those Traitors, was this Day read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence: And that the Lords be desired that it may be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take Order that it may be translated, and sent with a Letter, and by an Express, to the Crown of France.

Carried up to the Lords by Mr. Holles: who likewise carried up the Two Orders concerning such Soldiers as quit their Charge, &c.

Money for the West.

An Ordinance for applying to the Service of the West, certain Monies in the Hands of Sir Rich. Gurney, due to certain Creditors of the Earl of Dorsett, that are Delinquents, was this Day read; and assented unto; and immediately carried up to the Lords for their Concurrence by Mr. Bond.

Delinquent's Property.

Ordered, That the Information of One hundred and Sixty Pounds, in the Hands of Wm. Smythe, due and payable unto one Peter Newsam, a Delinquent, in Arms against the Parliament, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Examinations; to call the Parties before them, and to examine the Business: And that, if it shall appear to be Delinquents Estate, that then it shall be applied to buy Powder for the Service of the County of Derby: And Sir Jo. Curson is appointed to take care of this Business.

Business deferred.

Ordered, That the Petition from the Earl of Manchester's Association be taken into Consideration on Monday next, the first Business peremptorily; and likewise the Business concerning Northamptonshire and Rutlandshire, and Isle of Jersey: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Money for Army Services.

Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerard Treasurer at Wars do forthwith pay unto the Lieutenant of the Ordnance the Arrears of the weekly Assessments, for the Provision of a Train of Artillery for my Lord General's Army, according to the Ordinance of both Houses made in that Behalf: And that the Eight hundred Pounds Yesterday appointed to be paid by the Treasurer at Wars to Serjeant Major General Skippon, Commissary General Behir, and Colonel Barclay, be paid by the Commissioners of Excise, out of the Receipts of the Excise; and be deducted out of the next Monies as shall be assigned upon the Receipts of the Excise for my Lord General's Army.

Upon Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, it is Ordered, That there be a Month's Advance paid to the Waggon Master General for Two hundred Horses, and for Sixty-four Men for Drivers, for the Train of Artillery of my Lord General; the Horse at Fifteen-pence per diem, and the Men at Eighteen-pence per diem; the Sum per diem being Seventeen Pounds and Six Shillings.

Money for Army.

An Ordinance for raising of Monies for the Advance and Maintenance of the Brigade which they are now to set forth, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question committed unto Mr. Maynard, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Phil. Stapilton, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Ashherst, Mr. Scawen, Sir Jo. Clottworthy, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Holland, Sir Jo. Francklyn, Mr. Winwood, Sir Jo. Trevor, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Stevens, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Rolle, Mr. Theloall, Mr. Beddingfield, Mr. Lisle, Sir Edw. Boys, Sir Jo. Corbett, Mr. Knightley, the Knights and Burgesses of Middlesex, London, Westminster, and Southwarke: And are to meet this Afternoon, in the Star Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Holles brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order for Poole; to the Two Orders concerning Soldiers as come from their Charges, &c. And as to the Narration concerning Macguire and Mac Mahon, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Narration concerning Lord Macguire, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Doctor Aylett;

The Lords do agree to the Narration sent up from this House, concerning some Passages upon the Discovering and Apprehending of Lord Macguire and Hugh Mac Mahon, with some Amendments: And they do agree that it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take care to have it translated, printed, and published; and sent with a Letter by an Express to the Crown of France.

Cromwell's Regiment.

Ordered, That these Words be added to the Order Yesterday made concerning Pistols, Saddles, &c. for Lieutenant General Cromwell; viz. " It is further Ordered, That the Treasurers of the Seven associated Counties do pay the Monies that these Arms shall amount unto, within Three Months at furthest: And that the Gentlemen, Members of this House, of the said associated Counties, do meet this Afternoon, in the Duchy Chamber, to agree upon Security, and to apportion the Proportions upon the several Counties.

Chichester's Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Mary Chichester, Widow, be recommended to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, that she may have some Provision answerable to her Condition and Necessity.

Publick Stores.

Ordered, That Lieutenant Colonel Owen Roe do deliver out of the Magazine Five hundred of those Danish Forks, Clubs, or Round-heads, that were taken aboard the Danish Ship, to the Committee of the West, or such as they shall appoint to receive the same; to be disposed of as the said Committee shall appoint.

Propositions for Peace.

Ordered, That the Propositions for a safe and wellgrounded Peace be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning, the first Business, notwithstanding any other Order.

Trial of Pitt.

Ordered, That Pitt, that endeavoured to prevail with Captain Tothill, Governor of Rushall Castle, to betray that Castle and Garison, be referred to the Commissioners for Martial Law, to be tried: And that Captain Tothill do not depart, till he be examined upon Oath before the Judge Advocate.

Stores for Rushehall Castle.

Ordered, That Fifty Pair of Pistols, and Eight Barrels of Powder, and Match proportionable, be forthwith delivered out of the Stores and Magazines to Captain Tuthill, Governor of Rushehall Castle, for the better Defence of that Place.

Delinquents Wood.

Ordered, That Mr. Lisle do bring in an Ordinance for the Cutting down of Two thousand Poundsworth of Wood belonging to Delinquents in Hampshire and Sussex: Provided they cut down no Timber-trees; nor to cut down any of the Woods, but at a seasonable Time.

Portsmouth Garison.

Ordered, That the Governor of Portsmouth shall recruit the Forces in that Garison to Seven Companies of Foot, consisting of a Thousand Men: And that the supernumerary Men, above the old Establishment, shall receive Pay from the State, according to the new Establishment of the Lord General's Army, on the Excise, as they are raised.

Mr. Lisle to bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.

And it is further Ordered, That Three hundred Snaphance Musquets, Two hundred Musquets, One hundred Pikes, Five hundred Bandaliers, Six hundred Swords, Twelve Drums, Twelve Halberts, and * Partizans, shall be provided for arming the said Regiment: And that it be recommended to the Lord General to spare so many Arms, if he can, out of those Six thousand Arms already sent down unto my Lord General: And this House will take care to send down the like Number of Arms to supply my Lord General's Army, if Need shall be.

Ordered, That a Letter be written to the Committees of Sussex and Hampshire, to raise and pay a Troop of One hundred Horse, well armed, for the Service of the Garison of Portsmouth; and for the better Defence and Guard of the said Counties of Sussex and Hantshire: And Mr. Lisle is to prepare this Letter.