House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 21 October 1644

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, Octobris 21, 1644.


Punishment of Waller.

AN Ordinance for Discharging of Edm. Waller Esquire of his Imprisonment, and for his Banishment and Fining, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon Question, committed . . . . Mr. Hill, Mr. Long, Mr. Waddon, Mr. Strode, Mr. White, Sir Tho. Woodhowse, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Blakeston, Sir Ben. Rudyerd, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Scawen, Colonel Ven. Mr. Selden, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Jennour, Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Gourdon, or any Four of them: And are to meet on Wednesday next, at Two post Meridiem, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Stephens' Petition.

The humble Petition of Thomas Stephens, of Thurleston in the County of Devon Gentleman, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of the Navy, to examine the Truth of the Matters laid down in the Petition; and to certify their Opinion to the House; and that the Court of Admiralty do stay all Execution and Proceedings upon Sentence, if any be in the Case, until the House take farther Order.

Munster Officers.

The humble Petition of the Officers of the Province of Munster in Ireland, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the concealed Money and Estate discovered by Mr. Jephson, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Examinations; and likewise the Money discovered by Captain Pykering: And that if they prove sequestrable, and not yet discovered, that they be paid in to the Committee at Grocers Hall; provided they exceed not Two thousand Pounds; to pay thereof Two Months Pay to the Petitioners; and the rest to be disposed of by the Committee at Grocers Hall, for the Service of the Affairs of Ireland.

Defence of Sussex.

Ordered, That Captain James Temple do go down to the County of Sussex forthwith, and do his uttermost Endeavour to assist in the Preservation of that County: And that he take down with him an experienced Commander, as Lieutenant Colonel, to be maintained at the Charge of the County: And the Committee of Sussex is to give all Assistance unto him in the Raising of Forces for the better Defence of that County.

Military Affairs, &c.

A Letter from Colonel Massie, of Octobris 14, 1644, from Monmouth, relating a great Service done by him in again beating the Enemy out of Beacheley, being again fortified by Sir Jo. Wyntour, was this Day read: And

Ordered, That Sir Robert Harley, Mr. Holles, and Mr. Hodges, do prepare a Letter to be sent to Colonel Massie, in Acknowledgment of his great and faithful Services; and to assure him of all Encouragement from this House.

Ordered, That the Letter of the Tenth of October, from the Committee of Gloucester, concerning Colonel Massie, be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to take some Course for composing the Differences, if they can; otherwise, to certify the Letters and [Hindrances to the] House.

The humble Petition [of the Officers and] Soldiers in the Regiment of Horse, [and Colonel Massie,] Governor of Gloucester, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That Five hundred Pounds more than the Five hundred Pounds formerly, shall be provided towards the Pay of the Regiment of Horse of Colonel Massie: And that it be referred to the Committee of Gloucester, to provide this Five hundred Pounds.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Gloucester, to call before them the Farmers and Collectors of the Forty Shillings per Ton upon Wine in the Out Ports: And that they shall have Power to compound with them for their Delinquency: And that the first Five hundred Pounds that shall arise from thence, shall be employed towards the Payment of Colonel Massie's Regiment of Horse.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies at Haberdashers Hall, do, next after the Monies already assigned upon that Committee, advance, upon Account, to the Committee for Gloucester, Five hundred Pounds for the Pay of Colonel Massie's Regiment of Horse.

Watson's Money.

Ordered, That the Committee for Gloucester do bring in an Ordinance concerning Watson's Monies in Surgeons Hall.

Powder Mills in Surrey.

[Ordered,] That Sir Rich. Onslowe do inform the [Committee] of both Kingdoms of the State and [Condition] of the Powder Mills in Surrey: And [that it] be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to provide for the Security of the Powder Mills in Surry.

Publick Stores.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Navy do bring in an Ordinance for laying of a Thousand Pounds per mensem upon the Excise, for Six Months; for the paying for the English Saltpetre, and carrying on that Work; and for providing of Bullet and Match for replenishing the Stores.

Business deferred.

Ordered, That, on Wednesday next peremptorily, Mr. Corbett do report the Business concerning the farther Supply of the Forces of the Association under the Earl of Manchester: And that at the same time the State of Lincolneshire be taken into Consideration.


Ordered, That the Consideration of the Winter Guard be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms: Who are to consult with my Lord Admiral and the Committee of the Navy hereupon.

Petitions referred.

Ordered, That the Waggoners Petitions, and the Petition of Mr. Trapham, Surgeon to Major General Skippon, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for my Lord General's Establishment.

Sparrow's, &c. Arrears.

Ordered, That, out of the Proceed of the concealed Goods informed [to be] discovered to Mr. Corbett, Two hundred Pounds [be] forthwith paid to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, upon Account, to pay unto Major Sparrow One hundred Pounds, upon Account, towards the Payment of his Arrears; and an hundred Pounds to Major Mathew, upon Account, towards the Payment of his Arrears: And that out of the Proceed of the said Goods, the Committee of Examinations do take care to satisfy the Discoverer.

Army Clothing, &c.

Ordered, That Eight hundred Suits of the Clothes, &c. provided for my Lord General's Army, be sent down to cloath Sir Wm. Waller's Dragoons (my Lord General's Foot being first supplied): And the Committee formerly appointed to provide these Cloaths is to take care herein.

Ordered, That Two hundred Carabines, of the Stores bought of Mr. Pennoyer, be sent to Sir Wm. Waller: And that Mr. Bond do give Order, that the said Carabines be delivered unto Mr. Trenchard, to be by his Care forthwith sent down to Sir Wm. Waller.

Apprehending Soldiers.

Ordered, That the Soldiers this Day apprehended by the Guards, and brought to the Committee for Examinations, be referred to the Commissioners of Martial Law, to be proceeded with.

Ordered, That Sir Tho. Soame do desire the Committee of the Militia to send some of their Horse Guards to lie up and down between this Town and the Armies; and to apprehend such Soldiers as come from the Armies; and to bring them to the Commissioners for Martial Law, to be proceeded with.

Victuals for Army.

Resolved, &c. That Forty Load of Cheese, and a proportionable Quantity of Biscuit, be forthwith provided for the Armies, and sent to Farneham Castle: And that the said Cheese and Biscuit be paid for out of the next Monies to be paid to my Lord General's Army out of the Excise: And that the Committee formerly appointed to send Victuals to Plymouth, do take care of this Business: And that they send for Mr. Bond, Commissary for Victuals for my Lord General's Army, and the other Commissaries of the other Armies, and put them speedily upon this Work: And that they take care that the Victuals may be proportionably charged upon the respective Armies; and the Charge of the Victuals disposed of to the other Armies, may be allowed to my Lord General's Army; these Victuals being provided out of the Monies to be paid to my Lord General's Army: And that Mr. Bence be added to this Committee.

Publick Stores.

Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do forthwith make Provision of Six Ton of Match, and Six Ton of Musquet Ball, to be sent to Farneham Castle, for a Magazine for the Armies.

Military Affairs.

The Draught of a Letter to be sent to the respective Counties, to require them to put themselves, Horse and Foot, into a Posture of Defence, and to come to such a Rendezvous as shall be appointed by further Order, was this Day read; and, upon Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

But they were first up.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to write Letters to such of the Counties as they shall think fit, to put themselves into a Posture of Defence, according to the Form of the Letter to this Purpose passed; and likewise to send to the like Purpose to the City of London, and the Places within the Lines of Communication.

Middlesex Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Middlesex Ordinance be read on Wednesday next, the first Business.

Horse within the Lines.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider how the Horse in and about this Town, and within the Lines of Communication, may be put into such a Posture, that they may be employed for the Publick upon all pressing Occasions.

Isle of Wight.

A Letter from Newport in the Isle of Wight, from the Mayor, and other the Inhabitants, of Octobris 14, 1644, directed to the Earl of Pembroke, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Earl of Pembroke be desired forthwith to send down Colonel Carne to his Charge in the Isle of Wight.

Ordered, That Mr. Oldisworth do prepare a Letter to to be sent from Mr. Speaker, to Colonel Carne, to give him Thanks for his Care and faithful Service in his Charge in the Isle of Wight; and to desire him to continue his Care.

It is farther Ordered, That the Governor of the Isle shall have Power to take such Boats that lie upon the Continent, to the Danger of the Isle of Wight, into the Island, to prevent all Dangers and Mischiefs that may come to the Island by the Occasion of those Boats.

Exchange of Prisoners.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Exchange of Colonel Huddleston, a Prisoner to the Parliament, for Dr. Bastwick, a Prisoner to the King's Forces; and do order it accordingly.

General Dalbier.

Mr. Tate reports the Business concerning Quarter Master General Dalbier.

The Question being propounded, Whether the House holds it fit, that Quarter Master General Dolbier should be forthwith sent down to attend the Service of the Army;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went out.

Sir Phil. Stapilton, and Mr. Hollis, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 17.
Sir Henry Vane jun. and Sir Thomas Dacres Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 49.

So it was resolved with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That this House holds it not fit, that Quarter Master General Dalbier should be forthwith sent down to attend the Service of the Army.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page;

That the Lords have sent down a Petition of the Earl of Nottingham's, and recommend it to your Consideration: Likewise an Ordinance concerning the Island of Gersey; which they agree to, with some Amendments: And likewise the Answer to be given to the States Ambassadors; which they agree to, with some Amendments: They have likewise sent down a Petition concerning the Earl of Carlisle; which they recommend to your Consideration.

Commissioners of Customs.

Sir Henry Vane presents to the House a Letter he received from the Secretary to the Commissioners of the Customs: Which was read; desiring, That they may not be bound by Two Orders made on Saturday last, which they conceive are against Two Ordinances of Parliament; and that they may be heard concerning the same: And that they are willing to advance forthwith, by way of Loan, Eight thousand Pounds, upon the Security of the said Ordinances: Whereupon,

It is Ordered, That this House doth accept of the Offer of the said Loan of Eight thousand Pounds: And that they do accordingly pay the same to the Treasurer of the Navy: And

It is further Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed for the Regulating of the Customs, and Advancement of Monies for the Navy, do hear the Commissioners of the Customs, and make Report to the House: And in the mean time the said Two former Orders are suspended.

Ordered, That the Propositions be reported on Wednesday next, the first Business.

King's Proclamation.

A Proclamation, in his Majesty's Name, dated at Chard, 30 Septembris, and re-printed at Oxford, was read; declaring his Majesty's Resolution to come towards London, to settle a Peace, in a full and free Parliament.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.