House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 9 November 1644

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, Novembris 9, 1644.


Affairs in the North.

A LETTER from Newcastle, of Octobris 27, 1644, from the Committees of both Houses attending the Armies in the North, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Houses appointed to treat with the Scotts Commissioners, to consider of this Letter, and the Papers inclosed; and what is fit to be done upon them, and to be returned in Answer to them.

It is likewise referred to this Committee, to consider of the other Letters that came last from Newcastle; and the Letter from Duresme, of Novembris 1, from the Commissioners of both Houses: And that they return their Opinions, upon all, to the Houses, on Wednesday next. Herein the Committees of both Houses are to confer with the Committee of this House for the Northern Affairs, and the Northern Gentlemen.

Ordered, That it be referred to Sir Hen. Vane junior, and Sir Tho. Widdrington, to prepare particular Letters to be sent to Sir Tho. Fairefaxe, and to the Commissioners of both Houses, residing with the Armies in the North, to acknowledge the great and faithful Services done by them, and to encourage them therein.

Maddison's, &c. Petitions.

Ordered, That the humble Petitions of Ralph Maddison Esquire, for himself, and on the Behalf of Robert Bewick, his Majesty's Ward; and likewise the humble Petition of Elizabeth Maddison, Elianor Bewick, and others, named in the said Petition; be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of the Revenue, and the Committee of the Navy, joined as to these Petitions: Who are to report their Opinions to the House, with all convenient Expedition.

Taking of Leverpoole.

A Letter from Leverpoole, of Novembris 4 from the Committee there, relating the Taking of the said Town; and how, upon Conditions, they were engaged to give Quarter to the Irish, before they received the Ordinance of both Houses, for giving no Quarter to the Irish.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth confirm and allow of the Quarter given by the Commander in Chief to the Irish taken in Leverpoole.

Mr. Ashherst is appointed to prepare a Letter to be sent to Lieutenant General Meldrum, and the Committee at Leverpoole.

Trial of Lord Macguire, &c.

Ordered, That the Indictments shall forthwith proceed against the Lord Macguire and Mac Mahon: And the Lawyers assigned as Counsel at the Tryal of them, are required to proceed with Effect; and to bring them to Tryal the next Week; and to give an Account hereof to the House.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Bainton is appointed to carry up to the Lords, the Letter from Newcastle and Duresme; and the Order upon them: The Ordinance for mitigating the Article referred to the Commissioners of Martial Law, concerning such Soldiers as depart from their Colours without Leave: The Ordinance for allowing to Mr. Bond, Minister of the Savoy, the Revenue belonging to the Master of the Savoy: The Order for a Fortnight's Pay to the Regiment under the Command of Colonel Jo. Fienis, out of Haberdashers . . . . .: Additional Names to the Committee of Sequestrations in Kent: An Ordinance concerning an Estate of Violett, a Delinquent, discovered in Essex.

He is likewise to put the Lords in mind of an Ordinance for Payment of the Garison of Lynne.

Customs, &c.

Mr. Green reports from the Committee for advancing the Receipts of the Customs, &c.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee of the Navy do bring in an Ordinance for the further Continuing of the Customs, with a Blank for the Time.

Resolved, &c. That, upon Credit of this Ordinance, thus voted to be brought in, the Commissioners of the Customs, or any others, be treated withal by the Committee, in the Treasury Chamber, for the Raising of Ten thousand Pounds, or more, for the Service of the Navy.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for Advance of the Customs, to consider what Security is fit to be given to the Customers, for Payment of the Monies due unto them, if in case the House do resume the Customs into others Hands.

Resolved, &c. That the same Committee do set down the Ways of the Improvement, Benefit, and Advantage, that shall arise, if the House resume the Customs.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the same Committee, to consider, whether, by ascertaining the growing Charge of the Navy to a certain Sum, the Commissioners of the Customs, or whom else soever shall be intrusted with the Receipts of the Customs, may not be dealt withal for a certain Payment of the same within the Year.

Ordered, That this Committee do make Report on Thursday next.

Propositions to the King.

Mr. Pierpoint reports from the Committee of both Kingdoms, That the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland do agree to the Alterations in the Propositions; and do desire an authentical Copy of them, signed by the Hand of the Clerk; and also of the Votes of the Twentyfourth of October, of Alterations made therein.

Resolved, &c. That the Clerk do cause the Propositions to be ingrossed; and an authentical Copy to be delivered to the Commissioners of Scotland.

He likewise presented a Draught of a Letter to be sent to the General of the King's Army, for a safe Conduct, in these Words:

My Lord,

I am appointed by both Houses of Parliament, and desired by the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland, to send to your Lordship, to move the King, for his Majesty's Safe Conduct for, and their Attendants, Coaches and Horses, and other Accommodations for their Journey in their coming to his Majesty, during their Stay, and in their Return, when they shall think fit; who are to present unto his Majesty, from both Kingdoms, Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

Which Letter was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Sir Philip Stapilton presents, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, Instructions for the Committee appointed to go with the Propositions:

First, You are to go unto his Majesty; and to deliver unto him, the Propositions agreed upon by both Kingdoms, for a safe and well-grounded Peace.

II. You are to desire from his Majesty, that you may receive His Answer in Writing.

III. You are, upon the Receipt of the said Answer, to make your Repair to us, with all convenient Speed.

Which Instructions were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Letter to Commanders in Chief.

A Letter was likewise presented, to be sent to the Commanders in Chief of the Armies, for their Encouragement, and speedy Advance; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker; and to be sent away by the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Commissary Dalbeir.

A Letter from Sir Wm. Balfoure, to have Commissary Dalbeir sent down, was read.

Ordered, That, next after the Norffolk Petition is delivered to the House on Monday next, the Business concerning Commissary Dalbeir shall be reported.

Norffolk Petition.

Ordered, That the Norffolk Petition be presented to the House the first Business after Prayers.

Sir John Urrey.

Sir Henry Vane presents, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, several Letters from the Earl of Manchester, Sir Wm. Waller, and Sir Wm. Balfoure, concerning Colonel Sir John Urrey his coming in; and their Opinion of employing of him again: Which were read: Whereupon

It is Ordered, That Sir John Urrey shall have Leave to go beyond Sea.

Welbeck Garison.

Sir Henry Vane likewise presents, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, the Report concerning Colonel Thornhaugh, and the Garison of Welbeck: Whereupon

It is Resolved, &c. That this House holds it fit, that Welbeck House shall be continued a Garison; and that Colonel Thornhaugh shall be Governor thereof.

Resolved, &c. That, for the better Safety of that Garison, the Children of the Earl of Newcastle, and their Servants and Attendants, that reside there by virtue of the Agreement made by the Earl of Manchester, upon the Surrender thereof, shall be forthwith removed to some other Place: And it is referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to acquaint the Earl of Manchester with these Votes, that a speedy Course may be taken herein.

Army Stores.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider of sending Powder, Match, and Ball proportionable, to my Lord General.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy that sit in the Exchequer, to consider of the Two Ships that are to come, whether to employ them, or Two others to * * * * *.

Essex Forces.

Resolved, &c. That a Letter be written from this House to the Gentlemen of the County of Essex, for the Continuance of their Forces a Month longer at Abington.

Mr. Reynolds is to prepare this Letter for Mr. Speaker to sign it.

Leave to see Bellassis.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Cholmeley have Leave to see Mr. Jo. Bellassis.