House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 22 October 1645

Pages 317-318

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, Octobris 22 1645.


ACcording to Order, the Grand Committee of the whole House sat, to take into Consideration the Matter of Religion, and of the University of Cambridge.

Mr. Whittacre in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Upon Mr. Whittacre's Report;

It is Resolved, &c. That, upon Friday next, an Ordinance be brought in to the House for the Ordination of Ministers: And Mr. Tate and Mr. Rous are appointed to bring in this Ordinance.

Resolved, &c. That a Message be sent to the Lords, to desire their Concurrence with this House, in the Ordinance lately sent to them from this House, concerning Suspension from the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper.

Ordered, That the Book, intituled, "An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, together with Rules and Directions concerning Suspension from the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper, in Cases of Ignorance and Scandal," being erroneously printed, be forthwith called in, and suppressed: And that it be referred to the Committee of plundered Ministers, to take care for the calling in and suppressing the same.

An Ordinance for passing the Grants of Wardships to the respective Grantees thereof, under the Great Seal, notwithstanding the Bills to contain those Grants are not signed by his Majesty, was this Day twice read; and, upon the Question, committed to the Committee to whom a former Ordinance of like Nature was referred, where Mr. Serjeant Wilde hath the Chair: And they are to report the same to the House on Saturday Morning.

Mr. Recorder reports, That the Committee of both Kingdoms, in pursuance of the Order of both Houses, have granted a Commission to Colonel Devereux.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the North, where Sir Thomas Widdrington hath the Chair, to consider of an Establishment for the Pay of the Regiment of Horse under the Command of Colonel Devereux, and where they shall be paid; and what the Charge thereof will be; and how these Horse may otherwise be disposed of, for the best Service of the Commonwealth; in case an Establishment of Pay cannot be raised for them.

Mr. Speaker acquainted the House with Intelligence from the Scoutmaster-General of the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning the King's Motions from Newarke.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to deliver you this Paper: It came from the Scotts Commissioners; and was reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms: They desire you would take it into speedy Consideration:- This Ordinance, for the Pay of the Waggoners: It moved first from this House; and the Lords do agree to it, with these short Amendments. They desire to put you in mind of several Petitions, formerly sent to you, of the Lord Blanye's, of Captain Hutchins', Captain Poe's, and Captain Canon's.

Sir John Evelyn brings Answer from the Lords, That he carried several Votes and Ordinances to the Lords Yesterday: And that, as to the Order for a Day of Thanksgiving on Sunday next, they do agree: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

The Paper from the Scotts Commissioners was read; and was, to acquaint the House, That they had appointed Two of their Number to go to their Army, to press the speedy Advance of the Scotts Army to Newarke; and to desire, That Cloaths may be provided for them; without which they are able to do no Service this Winter-Season.

The Amendments to the Ordinance for the Pay of the Waggoners were read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Ordered, That the several Petitions of the Lord Blaney, Captain Hutchins, and Captain Poe, be referred to the Committee of Petitions, where Mr. John Goodwyn hath the Chair.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Peter Cannon's Invention of Making of Ordnance be read, the first Business, on Saturday Morning.

Ordered, That this Paper, from the Scotts Commissioners, concerning the Providing of Cloaths for their Army, be referred to the Committee of Goldsmiths-Hall; to confer with the Scotts Commissioners about the Proportions of the Cloaths to be provided; and to report their Opinions to the House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

The House hath considered your Message; and doth agree to the Amendments to the Ordinance for the Waggoners; and have taken the Scotts Paper, and other Particulars, into Consideration; and will send Answer to them by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That Mr. Alderman Pennington and Colonel Venn do acquaint the Lord Mayor with the Order of Thanksgiving on the next Lord's Day.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for charging One Month's Assessment upon the Eastern Association, for reimbursing to the Counties the extraordinary Charges occasioned by Alarms, be read, the first Business, To-morrow, after Mr. Speaker comes to the Chair.

A Letter from Mr. Rushworth, from Tiverton, of 19 Octobris 1645, concerning the Taking in of that Garison, and the Castle there, with the Ordnance, Ammunition, Commanders, and Soldiers there, by Storm, was this Day read.

Ordered, That, on the next Lord's Day, whereon Thanks are ordered to be given unto God for the many Successes it hath pleased God to give the Parliament's Forces, this great Blessing of God's delivering into the Hands of the Parliament Tiverton, and the Castle, may be remembered, and Thanks given unto God for this Blessing also; the Manner of Taking thereof being very remarkable.

Ordered, That the Committee of the West do forthwith pay unto the Two Messengers that brought this good News of the Taking in of Tiverton the Sum of Fifteen Pounds; to the Messenger that lives at Blandford the Sum of Ten Pounds; and to the other Five Pounds.

Mr. Recorder reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms, That, in pursuance of an Order of this House, the Committee had conferred with the Gentlemen of the Association, and neighbouring Counties to Newark, about the gathering a Force out of the said Counties for the Reducing of Newark: And that they are informed from those Gentlemen, That, out of the several Counties, a Force of Seven thousand may be had, in case this House will provide Money for them; viz.

Bedfordshire, 100
Lincolnshire, 1500
Nottingham, 500
Darbishire, 500
Lyn, 500
Isle of Ely, 300
Huntington, 100
Cambridgshire, 200
Newport-Pagnell, 200
Leicester, 500
Rutland, 100
Suffolk and Essex Auxiliaries, 2000
Norfolk Auxiliaries, besides Five hundred sent into Lyn, 500

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Eastern Association, to consider of an Estimate of the whole Charge for Raising and Sending of these particular Proportions of Men to Newark, and of the other necessary Charges for that Service; and to report their Opinions to the House.

Ordered, That Mr. Hill, Sir Arthur Heselrig, Mr. Nathanael Fyenis, Colonel Tompson, and Major-General Browne, do consider of a Declaration to be set forth, touching such Persons that are or shall come in, according to the Debate thereupon this Day in the House; and to consider of sitting Persons to be employed as a Committee in this Business; and to report the same to the House Tomorrow Morning.

post Meridiem.

UPON Mr. Knightlie's Report from the Committee of Prisoners;

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Exchange of Sir Edward Hieron, Major Whitford, and Colonel Slingsby, now Prisoners to the Parliament, for Sir Richard Erle, Sir Alexander Hope, and Colonel Sanderson, now Prisoners to the King's Forces; and of the Exchange of Colonel Griffith, now Prisoner also to the Parliament, for Major Lumax, and for one Captain with him, Prisoners likewise to the King's Forces, to be discharged, and set at Liberty, respectively, according to the true Intent of this Order.

Ordered, That the Copy of the Letter, this Day read in the House, concerning the Earl of Thomond, be referred to Mr. Serjeant Wilde: And that the Lands and Estate of the said Earl be forthwith sequestred.

Ordered, That the Committee of Examinations do send for any of the Earl of Thomond's Servants in or about London, and examine them.

Ordered, That the Letter, without Date or Hand, with Four Propositions in it, to his Majesty, concerning his coming to Cambridge, be referred to the Committee of the Eastern Association: And that they take care to secure any Firelocks that are at Norwich.

This Letter was delivered to Mr. Corbett in the House, upon this Order.