House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 22 February 1645

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 22 February 1645', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646, (London, 1802) pp. 58-60. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol4/pp58-60 [accessed 26 April 2024]

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Die Sabbati, Februarii 22, 1644.

Prayers.

REsolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Exchange of Sir Jo. Mylles, Prisoner to the Parliament, for Colonel Tho. Stephens, Prisoner to the King's Forces: And that my Lord General be desired to grant Sir John Mylles his Pass, to go upon his Parole, to Oxon, to effect this Exchange.

Mr. Knightley and Sir Jo. Curson are appointed to go to my Lord General, to acquaint him with this Order.

The humble Petition of Adam Meredith Esquire, Son to Sir Rob. Meredith, one of his Majesty's Privy Council, and Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Prisoner in Ireland, desiring, That his Father, Sir Rob. Meredith, now a Prisoner in Ireland, may be exchanged for Colonel Smyth, now Prisoner to the Parliament; this Exchange, being granted on the King's Part; was this Day read: And

It is Resolved, That this House doth approve of the Exchange of Colonel Smythe, Prisoner to the Parliament, for Sir Rob. Meredith, a Prisoner in Ireland; provided that Sir Robert be set at Liberty, and sent over hither, before Colonel Smythe be discharged.

A Letter from Sir Wm. Waller, and divers of his Officers, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That this Letter, and the Messenger that brought it, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Upon Mr. Scawen's Report, it is Resolved, &c. That there shall be Persons employed in the several Counties, to sollicit the Bringing-in of the Assessments charged upon the several Counties and Cities by the Ordinance for raiseing and maintaining the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefaxe, according to the said Ordinance.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Edward Herbert shall be employed in the Association of the Earl of Manchester and Lincolne; and shall have Ten Shillings per diem allowed himself for his own Service; and Five Shillings each for Five Deputies.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Thomas Walker and Jeremiah Whittworth shall be employed in this Service in the City of London, and Counties of Middlesex, Kent, Sussex, Surry, and Bedford; and shall have Thirty-five Shillings per diem allowed unto them for themselves, and their Deputies.

Mr. Scawen is appointed to bring in an Ordinance for settling the Pay of these Persons; and Instructions for them to act by.

A Letter from Sir John Meldrum, from Scarborough, of Februar' 19, relating the Taking of the Town and Church of Scarborogh, and the Harbour, was this Day read: And the Messenger called.

Resolved, &c. That Sir John Meldrum shall have a Thousand Pounds bestowed upon him, in Testimony of his good and faithful Services.

Resolved, &c. That Twenty Pounds be bestowed upon the Messenger that brought this Letter: And that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith advance and pay unto the said Messenger the said Twenty Pounds.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Thousand Pounds, granted unto Sir Jo. Meldrum, be charged upon the Committee of Accounts, to be issued and paid unto Sir Jo. Meldrum, or such as he shall appoint to receive the same: And it is in especial Manner recommended unto that Committee to take care, that this Thousand Pounds be punctually and duly paid, accordingly.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. Strickland and Sir Hen. Mildmay do prepare a Letter, to be sent unto Sir Jo. Meldrum, in Acknowledgment of the great and faithful Services done by him.

Ordered, That the Committee, formerly appointed for Sir Jo. Meldrum's Business, be revived; and do meet on Monday next, at Two post meridiem, in the Court of Wards; and do consider, How, out of Sir Henry Gryffyth's Estate, or otherwise, some Recompence may be raised for the great and faithful Services done by Sir Jo. Meldrum: And that it be referred to this Committee to consider of some Way of raising Pay, in some Proportion, for the Officers and Soldiers under his Command: And that Sir Wm. Constable, Sir Tho. Widdrington, and Colonel Rigby, be added to this Committee. And the Care of this Business is especially recommended unto Mr. Rigby.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leeche and Mr. Page;

That the Lords are resolved to fit this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in regard it is the last Day of the Treaty; and desire this House to do the like, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.

They have likewise received a Letter from the States of Holland and West Friezeland, directed to both Houses.

Ordered, That the House do sit this Afternoon at Four of the Clock.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House will sit at Four a Clock this Afternoon: And, to the rest, will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leeche and Mr. Page;

That the Lords have sent down the Ordinance to require Soldiers to repair to their Colours; which they agree unto, with the Amendments sent down.

The Amendments to the Ordinance was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be printed; and that Colonel Manwaringe be required to cause the same to be published, by Beat of Drum, and Sound of Trumpet, in London, and the Lines of Communication: And those Persons, to whom it doth appertain, are also required to publish the same in all the Towns near London, where any Soldiers are, by like Beat of Drum, and Sound of Trumpet.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House doth concurr with the Lords in the Amendments.

Ordered, That the Consideration of my Lord of Manchester's Horse leaving their Rendezvous appointed them, be referred to the Examination of the Committee, where Mr. Tate . . . . . ., in like manner as it is referred concerning the Soldiers of the other Armies.

A Letter, from the Commissioners at Uxbridge, of Februar. 21, 1644, with divers Papers included; relating the Proceedings of the Commissioners upon the Treaty; were this Day read.

Ordered, That, out of the Monies that go to Abbington, Colonel Martyn's Horse be paid a Proportion with the other Horse.

Die Sabbati, Februarii 22, 1644, post Meridiem.

AN Ordinance for settling divers Lands and Manors, late of Tho. Morgan and John Preston, Recusants, in Arms against the Parliament, upon Oliver St. Johns Esquire, his Majesty's Sollicitor-General, Sir Benjamin Rudyerd, &c. for Performance of certain Trusts mentioned in the said Ordinance, for Payment of the Debts of Jo. Pym Esquire, deceased; and for making Provision for his younger Children, &c.; was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Rous, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Jesson, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Hill, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Moore, Sir Anth. Irby, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Cage, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Mr. Ellys, Mr. Pury, Sir Wm. Strickland, Sir Walt. Erle, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Purefoy, Sir Jo. Hippisley, Sir Ralph Ashton, Mr. Ashherst, Mr. Nicoll: And are to meet on Tuesday next, at Two post meridiem, in the Exchequer-Court: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Resolved, &c. That the Books of the Ordinance for raising and maintaining the Army under Sir Tho. Fairefaxe; and Mr. Speaker's Letter upon that Business; be put into the Hands of Mr. Knightley for Northamptonshire; of Sir John Curson for Derbyshire; of Sir Arth. Hesilrig for Leicestershire; of Sir Gilb. Pyckering for Rutlandshire; of Mr. Purefoy for Warwickshire: And that they be by them sent, with Care and Diligence, into the several and respective Counties; and that they take such Course, that they may be able to give Account, from time to time, of the Proceedings of their respective Committees upon this Ordinance; and of the Levying and Bringing in of the Monies charged by the said Ordinance upon their respective Counties.

Sir Philip Stapleton reports, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, a Letter to Colonel King, dated the Fourth of January last, subscribed Chr. Hudson, Wm. Hudson, and others; also a Letter from Colonel King to Mr. Yarboroughe, and others; also a Copy of a Petition to the Honourable House of Commons, in the Name of divers Gentlemen, Ministers, Freeholders, and others, Inhabitants of the County of Lincolne; also a Letter from Mr. Lister, Mr. Hatcher, and others, of the Thirtieth of January last, and another of the Eighth of February Instant; with certain Examinations concerning Colonel King and Mr. Hudson: All which were read.

The Petition of Christopher Hudson Gentleman, being one of the Committee of the County of Lincolne, was read.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfeild and Serjeant Finch;

The Lords do desire, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, That they may have a present free Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, concerning the Treaty.

Resolved, &c. That the Answer that shall be returned by these Messengers shall be, That this House will send Answer by Messengers of their own presently.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own presently.

Resolved, &c. That a Message be sent unto the Lords, to desire a Conference concerning their last Message, by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.

Sir Edw. Aiscough is appointed to go with this Message.

Resolved, &c. That the Subject of this Conference shall be, The Mistake of the Lords last Message, in desiring a free Conference upon a Business that the Houses had never before conferred.

Sir Edward Aiscough brings Answer, That the Lords will give a Conference concerning their last Message, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Two Letters, one from Colonel Edw. Mountague, from the Convent-Garden, of Februar' 22, to Mr. Lisle; relateing a Mutiny that was among some Companies of his, upon their drawing out to be mustered at Henley, occasioned, as is conceived, by Captain Taylor and Lieutenant Rouse; and one other Letter from Lieutenant-Colonel Mark Gryme to Colonel Edward Mountague, of Februar' 20, 1644, from Henly, concerning the same Business; were both this Day read.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. George Mountague do, from this House, desire the Earl of Manchester forthwith to send for Captain Taylor and Lieutenant Rowse, to answer such Matters, as this House is informed of concerning them.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfeild and Serjeant Finch;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Letter they this Day received from Uxbridge; and some of the Papers they received with that Letter.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, by Committees of both Houses, presently, as is desired.

Mr. Browne, Sir Phil. Stapleton, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Ellis, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Sir Jo. Evelyn reports, That the Earl of Manchester acquainted them, That the Occasion of this Conference, are some Papers, which their Lordships have selected among those, that were this Day sent from Uxbridge.

The Letter was read; which was the same with That to this House.

The Four Papers were Those delivered in by the King's Messengers, concerning an Addition of Time for the Treaty; and the Answer of the Commissioners to those Papers.

The Lords do conceive small or no Hope from this Treaty; yet there is something in those Papers, that may put some Colour upon their Actions; as desiring a Disbanding of the Armies; and the King's coming to his Parliament: They therefore desire they may be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to meet upon them To-morrow in the Afternoon; and to report to the Houses their Opinions, either To-morrow in the Afternoon, or on Monday Morning early: And that the Houses would sit To-morrow in the Afternoon for this Purpose.

Before the House had taken this Report into Debate, there came, from the Commissioners at Uxbridge, a Letter, with some Papers inclosed, concerning the King's Commissioners Desire of an Answer to their former Papers, touching an Addition of a longer Time for the Treaty: The which were read.

Resolved, &c. That the House do meet on Monday Morning at Eight of Clock.