House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 18 March 1645

Pages 82-83

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, Martii 18, 1644.


Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and approve of Mr. Foord of Magdalen-Hall to be admitted into the Assembly of Divines, in the place of Mr. Bowles, deceased.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies, at Haberdashers-Hall, do forthwith advance and pay unto the Committee for the West One hundred and Fifty Pounds, for providing Ordnance for the Defence of the Garison of Taunton in Somersettshire.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That it be recommended unto the Committee for the King's Children, to consider of placing the King's Children under the Care of the Earl of Northumberland, and his Lady: And that they be desired to have the Care of them; and to settle some certain Establishment for the constant Maintenance of the said Children in an honourable and fitting Way, in such a manner as may likewise have Consideration of an honourable Subsistence for the Earl of Northumberland; who hath suffered so much in his Private for the Publick.

It is further Ordered, That the Condition of the Countess of Dorsett be referred to the Consideration of this Committee.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sir Peter Wentworth to carry it to the Lords.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Mary Parker Widow, recommended from the Committee at Lincolne, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall; for the Relief of the Petitioner.

Sir Peter Wentworth likewise carried up the Ordinance for Two hundred Pounds to Major-General Crawford.

The Question was propounded, Whether Mr. James Fienis should have paid unto him, for his present Subsistence, out of the Revenue, Five hundred Pounds, after the Assignments already made upon the Revenue.

And then the Question being put, Whether this Question should be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir Henry Heyman, Tellers for the Noe: 61.
Mr. Baynton, With the Noe,
Sir Christ. Wray, Tellers for the Yea: 71.
Sir Philip Stapilton, With the Yea,

Resolved, &c. That Mr. James Fienis shall have Five hundred Pounds allowed him out of the Revenue, after the Assignments already made upon the Revenue shall be first satisfied.

Ordered, That the Committee, appointed to consider of the Necessities of the Members, do bring in a Report concerning all the Members at once; and likewise a Value of the Offices granted by Parliament, that, if it be possible, they may have a Subsistence out of the Revenue of the said Offices: And the Committee not to make any particular Allowances to the Members; but to leave That to the House.

Ordered, That Mr. Ellys do, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, report the Ordinance concerning the Members having no Civil Offices, or Military Commands: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Revenue do allow and pay unto Ben. Valentine Esquire, a Member of this House, Three Pounds per Week for his present Subsistence, until the House take further Order.

Whereas Ten Pounds per Week was formerly assigned unto Sir Nevile Poole out of the Reveune; It is this Day Ordered, upon the Question, That the said Allowance be continued, and equally divided between Sir Nevile Poole and Edw. Poole Esquire, a Member of this House; and paid in equal Proportions unto them respectively, during the Pleasure of this House.

Ordered, That Mr. Green do, on Tuesday Morning next, peremptorily, make Report of the Business concerning the East-India Company.

Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, peremptorily, the first Business, the Business concerning the Church be taken into Consideration, according to former Order: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Upon the humble Petition of the Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the East-Indies; desiring, that they might have Liberty to transport in Four Ships, named the Mary, Eagle, Falcon, and Lannaret, Foreign Coin, and Foreign Bullion, of Silver, to the Value of Fifty-five thousand Pounds; which they themselves have caused to be brought into this Kingdom;

It is Ordered, upon the Question, That the Commissioners of the Customs do suffer the said Company to pass upon the said Ships, according to the usual Custom, Foreign Coin, and Foreign Bullion, to the Value of Fifty-five thousand Pounds; the which they have caused to be brought into this Kingdom.

Ordered, That the List of the Officers of the next Summer's Fleet be taken into further Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Sir John Evelyn reports the Conference:

That the Earl of Northumberland acquainted them, That the Lords House desired very much to preserve a good Correspondence with this House: That they had considered the Reasons delivered Yesterday by this House at the Conference; and did well know the Necessity of the speedy carrying on the Business of the List: And therefore, out of their Desire of a good Correspondence with this House, they do agree in the List of the Officers, as they were nominated by Sir Tho. Fairefaxe, and brought up by this House to them.

Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, That, as to the Order for putting the King's Children under the Care of the Earl of Northumberland and his Lady, they do fully agree unto it: They do likewise agree to the Order concerning Two hundred Pounds for Major-General Crawford.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Paper from the Commissioners of Scotland; they recommend it to your Consideration. They have granted a Pass to Two of the Sisters of the late Earl of Peterburgh to go into France; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House. They desire the Concurrence of this House in a Pass to Lieutenant-Colonel Ogle to go into Holland to his Mother, a Dutch Woman. They likewise recommend unto this House the Consideration of the Petition of the Waggoners of my Lord General's Train of Artillery.

Ordered, That this Message from the Lords be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House will take their Lordships Message into Consideration; and send speedy Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the Debate, this Day had, concerning a Declaration to be made for inviting Persons to come in, be taken into further Consideration on Thursday Morning next.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning Newcastle be read To-morrow Morning, the first Business: And the Report made concerning the Coasters, and Coal Traders.

The humble Petition of Edmund Earl of Mulgrave, and of Edmund Lord Sheffeild his Grandson, was read.

Whereas by several Orders of Parliament, bearing Date 1 and 3 Junii, 1643, Fifty Pounds per Week was assigned to the Earl of Mulgrave out of the Sequestrations, and Ten Pounds per Week to Edmund Lord Sheffeild his Grandson: And whereas, by Ordinance of Parliament, bearing Date 11 Aprilis, 1644, the Sequestrations were assigned for the Payment of the Scotts Army in Ireland, till the Sum of Sixty thousand Pounds should be raised; It is this Day Ordered and Declared, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That, notwithstanding the said Ordinance for Payment of Sixty thousand Pounds for the Scotts Army in Ireland, or any other Ordinance for Payment of Monies out of the Sequestrations, not preceding the said Ordinance of 1 Junii, and 3 Junii, 1643, the said Sums of Fifty Pounds, and Ten Pounds, per Week, and the Arrears thereof, ought to be paid to the said Earl and the Lord Sheffeild: And the Treasurers of the Sequestrations at Goldsmiths-Hall are hereby ordered to pay the same accordingly, till both Houses take further Order.

Mr. Recorder, Sir Henry Vane junior, Mr. Sollicitor, Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Samuel Browne, Sir Ben. Rudiard, Sir Henry Vane, Sir John Evelyn, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Strode, Mr. Maynard;

This Committee is to consider of the several Messages that have been sent from the Lords, to see which are of most publick Concernment, and which of less; to the end that Consideration may be had of an Answer to be given to them: And likewise to consider of some Declaration to be offered to the Lords at a Conference, expressing the Desire of this House to continue and preserve a good Correspondence with the House of Peers, and of preserving the Liberty and Privileges of the House of Peers equally with their own: And are to meet To-morrow at Two post meridiem, in the Court of Wards; and so from time to time, as they shall think fit.