House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 17 March 1647

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Mercurii, 17 Martii, 1646.


Fee Farm Rents.

ORDERED, That the Committee appointed to prepare and bring in an Ordinance, for Discharge of Fee Farm Rents, &c. be revived: And that they do meet Tomorrow at Two post Meridiem, in the Exchequer Court, and so de die in diem: And that Mr. Dedderich be added to this Committee: And that all that will come shall have Voices at this Committee: And they are to report with all convenient Speed: And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred to Mr. Dodderiche.

Letter read.

A Letter from the Commissioners at Holdenby, of 11 Martii 1646, was this Day read.

King's Expences.

Sir Henry Vane reports from the Committee of the Revenue, That, upon Consideration had of the late Vote, in the Order of this House of the Second of this Instant (whereby it is referred unto that Committee, to consider of the Charges of the King at Holdenby, and report their Opinions thereupon to the House), That the Committee is of Opinion, That the Pleasure of the House be known, in declaring, What Sum of Money by the Day will be necessary, for the Expence of the King and Commissioners at Holdenby: And that, thereupon, That Committee will be ready to use their Endeavours to comply with the same.

It is thereupon Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Fifty Pounds per diem be allowed to the Commissioners at Holdenby, for defraying the whole Expence and Charge there; to commence from this Day.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the Revenue, to prepare a Letter, to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and sent to the Commissioners at Holdenby, to take Notice of their good Services, and to give them Thanks for them; and to recommend unto them, That the Gentlemen that were appointed by this House to attend the King, may be well accommodated, for such time as they shall be thought fit by this House to attend: And that the Commissioners do appoint some such Person, as they shall think fit, to receive upon Accompt, and issue out, such Monies as shall be designed for the Expence at Holdenby.

Scotts Commissioners.

Ordered, That the Members of both Houses, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do desire of the Scotts Commissioners here, this Afternoon, their Answer concerning the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland, that are expected to come hither, touching the Propositions; and when they will be here; and to report their Answer To-morrow Morning.

Propositions to the King.

Resolved, &c. That, on Tuesday Morning next, peremptorily, the first Business, the House do take into Consideration the Business concerning the procuring the King's Answer to the Propositions presented unto him at Newcastle; and to the passing the Bishops Lands, according to the Ordinances; and the Business concerning moving the King to send for the Prince to come home; and the Business concerning foreign Correspondencies.

Wills brought from Oxford.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, to consider of the Wills brought by the Judge Advocate from Oxon; and to report the Matter of Fact, How they find them.


Ordered, That, on Friday next come Sevennight, the first Business, the Report concerning the whole State of the Revenue be made from the Committee of the Revenue.

Messages to Lords.

Colonel Booth, according to the Order Yesterday, carried to the Lords an Ordinance for revoking a former Ordinance, made in September 1644, concerning the Inhabitants of Cheshire: An Ordinance for Pardon of Sir Humfrey Mildmaie's Delinquency: An Order for Payment of the Arrears of Sir Wm. Constable, out of the sequestered Estate of William Middleton Esquire, a Papist in Arms, lying in Duffield, in the County of York.

Sir John Clotworthy carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Vote concerning the Dismission and Discharge of the Scotts Army in Ireland, according to the Provisions in that Treaty.


Colonel Booth brings Answer, That to the Particulars carried by him, the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

London Petition.

The House being informed, That divers of the Aldermen and Common Council were at the Door, desiring to present a Petition to this House;

They were called in: And Sheriff Edmonds did acquaint the House, That they were appointed by the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London, to present this their Petition to this House.

The Petition was styled, "The humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled."

The Petitioners being withdrawn, the Petition was read; and likewise the Copy of a Petition annexed; which is the same with that printed Copy, which was informed against, and brought into this House on Monday last.

Ordered, That the Ordinance, formerly sent from the Lords, concerning the Militia of the City of London, be read on Saturday come Sevennight, the first Business.

Ordered, That the Ordinance, for putting Malignants out of the Line of Communication be read on Saturday next, the first Business.

The Petitioners were again called in: And Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the House had considered of the Particulars in the Petition: And that the House had already most of the Particulars under Consideration; and have appointed to take the rest into Consideration; and do resolve to proceed in such Manner with them, as may be most for the Ease, Safety, and Satisfaction of the City, and the whole Kingdom: That a Copy of the Petition annexed was lately brought to this House; and that they had put it into a Way of Consideration. Mr. Speaker further acquainted the Petitioners, That he was commanded to tell them, That the House takes very special Notice of the Declaration and Expressions of the Petitioners; and by them, of the whole City's constant, fervent, real, and sincere Affections to the Service of the Parliament. The Seasonableness of these Expressions adds some Weight unto them; it being at such a Conjuncture of Time, when the Enemies both to the Parliament and City did raise to themselves vain and groundless Hopes, of some Misunderstandings between this House and the City; the contrary whereof this will sufficiently manifest: For which he is commanded to give them the hearty Thanks of this House.

Ordered, That this Petition be forthwith printed.


Resolved, &c. That Colonel Thomas Hughes be continued Governor of Chepstow Castle.

Ordered, That the Four hundred and Seventy odd Pounds, discovered at a low Ebb, upon the River Wye, near Chepstow, be distributed among the Governor, Officers, and Soldiers of the Castle of Chepstow; toward the Satisfaction of their Arrears, in a Proportion to their Arrears respectively.

Resolved, &c. That Captain Thomas Poulton be appointed Governor of Nottingham Castle.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Thomas Hougan Knight be continued Governor of the Garison of Lyme.

Resolved, &c. That the Consideration of Tynmouth Castle and Gateside, be respited till the last of the Garisons.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Dowse shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Quartering Soldiers.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army do write unto the General, and acquaint him, That this House takes Notice of his Care, in ordering that none of the Forces under his Command should quarter nearer than Five-andtwenty Miles of this City: That, notwithstanding his Care and Directions therein, that the House is informed, That some of his Forces are quartered much nearer than that; and to desire him to take Course, That his former Orders, touching the Quartering of his Forces no nearer than Twenty-five Miles of this City, may be observed.


Resolved, &c. That Captain Henry Stone be continued Governor of Stafford.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and appoint Colonel Thomas Bettisworth to be Lieutenant Governor of Portesmouth.

Message to Lords.

Ordered, That, at the next Message, the Lords be put in mind of an Ordinance, formerly sent unto them, concerning the Granting of a Debt of Four thousand Pounds, due to Sir Humfrey Tracie, a Delinquent, from Henry Poole Esquire, a Delinquent, to the City of Gloucester, towards Payment of divers great Sums of Money advanced by them, for Payment of the Parliament Forces there employed.


The Question was propounded, That Lieutenant Colonel Perry be Governor of the Castle of Taunton.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

It is thereupon Resolved, That Lieutenant Colonel Perry be appointed Governor of the Castle of Taunton.

Resolved, &c. That there shall be one Governor of the Fort and Castle at Bristoll.

The Question was propounded, That Colonel Charles Doyley be Governor of the Fort and Castle at Bristoll.

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative. And

It is thereupon Resolved, &c. That Colonel Charles Doyly be Governor of the Fort and Castle at Bristoll.

Great Seal, &c.

Resolved, &c. That, To-morrow Morning, the first Business, the House do take into Consideration the Business concerning the Great Seal: And that, immediately after that, the House do proceed in the Consideration of the Garisons.