House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 4 June 1647

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 4 June 1647', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648, (London, 1802) pp. 197-198. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol5/pp197-198 [accessed 15 April 2024]

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Die Veneris, 4 Junii, 1647.

Prayers.

Great Seal.

RESOLVED, &c. That the Custody of the Great Seal of England continue in the same Hands it is now in, till Forty Days after the End of the next Term.

Causes in Chaucery.

Resolved, &c. That the Commission for hearing Causes in Chancery be renewed, and continued till Forty Days after the End of the next Term: And that the Commissioners of the Great Seal do issue out and seal a Commission, under the Great Seal, for the same Term accordingly.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Forces for Ireland.

Ordered, That to the Order, of 2 Junii 1647, for giving Power to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House to issue Warrant for the Payment of a Month's Pay to the Forces that are drawn off from the Army, and are engaged for Ireland, these Words be added, after the Word, "Warrant," "to the Treasurers at Weavers Hall;" and afterwards, after the Word "paid" these Words, "to Sir John Wollaston, and the rest of the late Treasurers of the Army, to be by them paid;" and afterwards, after the Word "they," these Words, "the said late-mentioned Treasurers."

Sir Wm. Lewes is to carry this Order to the Lords.

Army Arrears.

A Petition stiled, The humble Petition of all private Soldiers in general, now residing in and about the City of London, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to Auditor Broad, Auditor Wilcoxe, and Commissary Dudenny, or any Two of them; calling to their Assistance some of the Officers of the several Armies, as they shall see occasion, to receive the Lists, and to inlist and state the Accompts of all the private Soldiers, within the Lines of Communication, that have served in any of the Armies under the Command of the Earl of Essex, Sir William Waller, Lieutenant General Massey, or Major General Browne, according to the Instructions lately passed both Houses, for taking the Accompts of the Soldiery of the Kingdom: And that they do take notice of such as have been formerly listed, or have formerly received any Proportion of their Arrears.

Resolved, &c. That the House will take the Services of Auditor Broad, Auditor Wilcox, and Commissary Dudenny, into Consideration, when they have done their Work.

Ordered, &c. That Auditor Broad, Auditor Wilcox, and Commissary Dudenny, do meet, upon the Transaction of this Business, at Christ Church.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds be advanced, for satisfying the Arrears as shall appear due upon auditing the Accompts of the private Soldiers, within the Order aforesaid, in such Proportions as shall be appointed: And that the said Ten thousand Pounds be charged upon the Moiety of the Receipts at Goldsmiths Hall, in Course, that is not given for Security for the Two hundred thousand Pounds, borrowed for the Service of England and Ireland, without Prejudice to the said Security, with Interest for the same, payable every Six Months.

House to sit.

Resolved, &c. That the House do sit To-morrow, and on Monday next, notwithstanding the former Order of Adjournment.

Resolved, &c. That this House do sit this Afternoon.

Army Pay.

Ordered, &c. That the Four Votes, passed Yesterday, concerning the full Pay of the Common Soldier; and of the Officers not in Commission; and the Addition of a Month's Pay to the Officers in Commission; and concerning the expunging the Declaration passed this House 29 Martii 1647; be now sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Message to Lords.

Sir Wm. Lewes carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order amended, for giving Power to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House, to issue a Month's Pay to the Forces of the Army drawn off and engaged for Ireland: The Order for continuing the Great Seal in the Hands it is, for Forty Days after the next Term; and for renewing and continuing the Commission for hearing Causes in Chancery for the same Term: And was to acquaint the Lords, that this House has resolved to sit this Afternoon, To-morrow, and Monday; and to desire the Lords to do the like, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.

Answer.

Sir. Wm. Lewes brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Votes concerning the Great Seal, and the Commission for hearing Causes in Chancery: To the Vote for some Additions to explain the Order for giving Power to the Committee, for issuing a monthly Pay to the Soldiers that are drawn off, and are engaged for Ireland: And have resolved to sit this Afternoon, To-morrow, and on Monday next.

Money at Oxford.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army shall have Power to take Course for securing the Monies at Oxon: and to give Thanks to Lieutenant Colonel Kelsey, by whose Care and Industry the Money is hitherto secured.

Preacher appointed.

Ordered, That Mr. Grove do desire Mr. Manton to preach before the Commons the next Fast Day, at Margarett's, Westminster.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have framed a Letter to be sent unto Sir Thomas Fayrefax, the General: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House. They have likewise framed a Letter to be sent unto the Earl of Northumberland, for bringing back the King's Children: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Letter to the General.

The Letter to the General was read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

King's Children.

The Letter to the Earl of Northumberland was read: And was, for bringing back the King's Children to St. James's.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords in this Letter to the Earl of Northumberland.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordship's Message; and as to the Letter to Sir Thomas Fairefax, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: To the Letter to the Earl of Northumberland, they do agree.

Transactions at Holdenby.

A Letter from the Commissioners from Holdenby, of Tertii Junii 1647; and a Paper inclosed, delivered in by one Cornet Joyce; were both read.

Captain Titus, who brought the Letter, was called in; and did declare the whole Passage and Demeanor of the Party of Horse that came lately to Holdenby.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Fifty Pounds be bestowed upon Captain Titus, to buy him an Horse: And that this Fifty Pounds be paid unto him by the Committee for Advance of Monies at Haberdashers Hall.

Post Meridem.

Pye's, &c. Accompts.

ORDERED, That the Barons of the Exchequer do give Order to the King's Remembrancer, to enter and inrol the Accompts of Sir Robert Pye, Wm. Wheeler Esquire, and others, appointed Treasurers by Two several Acts of Parliament: The one, intituled, An Act for the speedy Provision of Money for disbanding the Armies, and settling the Peace of the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland: The other, intituled, An Act for the Speedy Contribution and Loan, towards the Relief of his Majesty's distressed Subjects of the Kingdom of Ireland.

Interposition to prevent a Quarrel.

The House being informed, that Two Members of the House, Colonel Ceely and Colonel Bingham, were gone out, expressing some great Distaste between them;

It is Ordered, That the Serjeant do go after those Gentlemen; and require them presently to return to the House.

The said Gentlemen being returned; Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, enjoining them, upon the Duty they owe to this House, not to act any thing, by Word or deed, that shall violate the Peace that is due, and ought to be preserved, by all the Members of this House.

Order for Proceedings.

Resolved, &c. That the House do proceed according to the Order made last Night.

Army.

Ordered, That Sir John Evelyn do carry to the Lords, at their first Sitting, the Votes Yesterday passed concerning the Army.

Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to bring in a Declaration concerning the Army, upon the Debate had in the House upon this Matter.

Field Marshal Skippon, Mr. Sam. Browne, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Whitelock, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Mr. Bois, Sir Phil. Stapilton, or any Three of them, are to prepare this Declaration: And are to meet this Afternoon; and to bring it in To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Indemnity.

Mr. Maynard, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Hill, Mr. Doddrich, Mr. Miles Corbett, Mr. Sam. Browne, Mr. Twisden, Mr. Bois, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Gott;

This Committee, or any Three of them, are appointed to consider of the Ordinance of Indemnity; and to make it full and satisfactory, according to what may be justly expected, according to the Debates of the House in that Behalf. They are likewise to prepare and bring in an Ordinance of Oblivion: And are to bring in these Ordinances To-morrow Morning, the first Business.