House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 18 November 1647

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 18 November 1647', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648, (London, 1802) pp. 362-363. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol5/pp362-363 [accessed 18 April 2024]

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Die Jovis, 18 Novembris, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Plymouth Garison, &c.

TWO Letters from the Governor of Plymouth, Colonel Ralph Weldon, from Plymouth, of Novembris 12 and 15, were this Day read; expressing the sad Condition and irresistible Necessities of the Garison there; was this Day read.

A Petition, stiled, The humble Petition of the distressed Inhabitants of the Town of Plymouth, was likewise read.

Resolved, &c. That the Sum of Ten thousand Pounds be advanced and paid out of the monthly Assessments of Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem of the County of Devon, for the Reducing and Paying of the Soldiery of the Garison of Plymouth: And that it be referred to the Committee of Plymouth, and the Army to take care of the speedy levying and bringing in the said Ten thousand Pounds upon the said Assessments; and to prepare and bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose: And that it be referred to the same Committee, to consider of the best and securest Way of reducing the said Garison, and disposing the Soldiery upon the Reducement; and report it to the House.

It is farther referred to that Committee, to take the Petition of the Mayor and Inhabitants of the Town of Plymouth into Consideration; and to report their Opinions upon it.

It is likewise referred to this Committee, to consider of a speedy Way of paying Colonel Ralph Welden his Arrears.

Ordered, That it be referred to Mr. Fowell, to prepare a Letter, to be sent in Answer to the Governor of Plymouth, and Mayor of Plymouth; and to give them an Account, What the House has done, in order to the Relief of that Town and Garison.

Chambers' Petition.

Ordered, That Mrs. Chambers' Petition, this Day offered by Sir Henry Vane, be read and considered of on Saturday Morning next, the first Business, after the Report of the Ordinance concerning Fee Farm Rents.

Letter read.

A Letter from Colonel Robert Hammond, Governor of the Isle of Wight, from the Castle of Carisbrooke, of 16 Novembris 1647, was read.

King's Expences, &c.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Revenue do, Tomorrow Morning, report a State of the King's Expences, over and above the Assignment of Fifty Pounds per diem: That they do likewise bring in an Estimate of the whole Expences for the Time past; of the Charge that will be, according to the List of Servants that was Yesterday brought in from the Committee of the Revenue; and what the Charge will be, if the Houses shall think fit (besides the List of those Servants) to appoint Commissioners to reside with the King, as formerly.

Ordered, That the Members of this House, that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do, this Afternoon, inform the Scotts Commissioners of the Coming of the King into the Isle of Wight, in such manner as they shall think fit.

Ordered, That the Committee to whom it was referred to prepare an Answer to the Letter from the Scotts Commissioners, of 5 Novembris 1647, do report To-morrow Morning.

Sheriffs of Cardigan, &c.

Ordered, That the Informations given in against the Gentlemen nominated Sheriffs of the Counties of Cardigan, Carmarthen, Brecknock, and Radnour, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of Complaints: Who are to report the Matters concerning those several Persons with all convenient Speed: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords Concurrence be desired in all the Persons nominated by this House to be Sheriffs of the several Counties, except those for the Counties of Cardigan, Carmarthen, Brecknock, and Radnor.

Sheriffs Accompts.

Resolved, &c. That the Vote, Yesterday passed, for discharging the Sheriffs Accompts without paying Fees, be sent to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to carry these Matters concerning the Sheriffs to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Proceedings in the Army.

Mr. Lisle reports the Conference had, on Tuesday last, with the Lords, upon some Letters and Papers the Lords had that Morning received from the General: He read the General's Letter, directed to the Lords.

A printed Paper inclosed, indorsed, "England's Freedom, Soldiers Rights," was likewise read.

Sir Walter Erle, Sir Wm. Massam, Colonel Birch, Mr. John Ashe, Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir John Northcott, Mr. Rose, Sir John Danvers, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr. Tho. Hodges, Mr. Grimston, Sir Robert Pye, Mr. Tate, Colonel Jephson, Sir Nath. Barnardiston, Mr. Bois;

This Committee, or any Six of them, is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to examine the Proceedings of those London Agents mentioned in the General's Letter; and all others who are known, or shall justly be suspected, to have been the Authors or Abetters of these seditious Irregularities; whereupon some exemplary Justice may be done.

The Question was propounded, That the Business informed to the House in a Letter from the General, concerning Major Scott, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of this House, appointed on Tuesday last; where Mr. Rose's Care is more particularly required:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Sir James Harrington shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Proceedings in the Army.

Resolved, &c. That the Business informed to this House, in a Letter from the General, concerning Major Scott, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of this House, appointed on Tuesday last; where Mr. Rose's Care is more particularly required.

Resolved, &c. That the Business informed to this House, in a Letter from the General, concerning Colonel Rainborough, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of this House appointed on Tuesday last; where Mr. Rose's Care is more particularly required.

Declaration.

The Question being put, Whether any Declaration shall be prepared, according to the Debate now had in the House;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir John Bampfield, Tellers for the Yea: 75.
Mr. Morley, With the Yea,
Sir John Evelyn, Tellers for the Noe: 67.
Sir James Harrington, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Rose's Care is particularly required, to prepare a Declaration, according to the Debate now had in the House.

Letter read.

A Letter from the Commissioners of Scotland, from Worcester House, of 17 Novembris 1647, was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That it be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.