House of Commons Journal Volume 6: 5 June 1651

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 6, 1648-1651. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 6: 5 June 1651', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 6, 1648-1651, (London, 1802) pp. 584-585. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol6/pp584-585 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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Thursday, the 5th of June, 1651.

Prayers.

Delinquents Estates.

THE House this Day resumed the Debate upon the Bill for Sale of several Delinquents Estates.

A Proviso was tendered to the said Bill, "That the said Delinquents Lands shall stand charged, and the first Money made thereof, or advanced thereon, shall be, for the Benefit and Satisfaction of those Petitioners, who have lent Money upon the Publick Faith, declared not able to double (whose Petition, with the List of their Names, is, or was, in Alderman Pennyngton's Hands; whose several Sums of Monies, with Interest for the same, do amount to about Twenty thousand Pounds), unless the Parliament shall appoint some more speedier way for their Satisfaction:" Which was this Day read the First time; and withdrawn.-

Publick Faith.

Ordered, That Mr. Blagrave do make the Report concerning the Publick Faith: And that the Business of Artificers be reported, and taken into Consideration, on Wednesday next.-

Delinquents Estates.

A Proviso was tendered to this Act, in these Words; viz. "Provided always, and be it Enacted, That all Estates-tails, or Limitations of Estates, to any of the Traitors in this Act named, and to their First, Second, Third, Fourth, and other Sons of the said Traitors, limited and appointed, and their Heirs Males, or the like, and all Remainders thereupon, are hereby declared forfeited: And the Committee and Trustees in this Act named shall observe, and make Sale thereof, as an Estate in Fee Simple; any thing in this Act to the contrary in any-wise notwithstanding:" Which was this Day read the First time.

And the Question being put, That this Proviso be read the Second time;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That this Proviso be rejected.

A Proviso was tendered to this Bill, "That this Act, or any thing therein contained, shall not extend to any Rectories Impropriate, Parsonage Impropriate, Tythes, Portions of Tythes, Donatives, Oblations, or Obventions of, or belonging, or which lately were belonging, to any of the Persons in this Act named, whose Lands and Estates are hereby appointed to be sold, or any of them; but that all and every the Purchasers of the respective Manors hereby appointed to be sold, and his and their Heirs and Assigns, shall have and enjoy the Right of Patronage and Presentation of, in, and to, all and every the Parsonages, Rectories, and Vicarages, within or belonging to the respective Manors, so by him or them to be purchased:" Which was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, laid aside.

Resolved, by the Parliament, That the Exception in the Body of the Bill be amended, as followeth; viz. "Excepting Rectories Impropriate, Parsonages Impropriate, Tythes, Compositions for Tythes, Donatives, Oblations, Obventions, and Rents issuing out of Tythes."

A Proviso was tendered to this Bill, in these Words; viz. "Provided always, and be it Enacted, That the Trustees named and appointed in and by this Act shall have Power and Authority, and are hereby authorized and impowered, to give Allowance unto the Wives or Children of the several and respective Delinquents comprised in this Act, whose Estate and Estates is and are hereby exposed to Sale, according to the several and respective Indigences and Necessities of the said Wives or Children, petitioning and desiring the same; so as the said Allowance and Allowances, so to be made, do and shall not exceed one Fifth Part of the Estates of Delinquents, so to be sold, as aforesaid:" Which was this Day read the First time.

And the Question being put, That this Proviso be read the Second time;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Holland, Tellers for the Yeas: 23.
Colonel Fleetwood, With the Yeas,
Sir Michael Livesey, Tellers for the Noes: 21.
Colonel Fielder, With the Noes,

So it passed with the Affirmative.

The said Proviso was read the Second time, accordingly.

The Question being put, That this Proviso be Part of the Bill;

It passed with the Negative.

A Proviso was tendered to this Bill "That this Act, nor any thing therein contained, shall not extend to the taking away the Security given by Two several Ordinances of Parliament; the one of the Thirteenth of January 1647, and the other additional Ordinance for explaining and enlarging that of the Thirteenth of January 1647; which was ordered to be printed the Fifth of July 1648; but that all Persons who have lent or advanced Monies, according to both or either of the said Ordinances, shall be reimbursed and paid all such Monies, with Interest due to them, or any of them, according to the Tenor of both or either of the said Ordinances, out of the Rents or Sale of the Lands engaged by the said Ordinances; any thing in this Act to the contrary notwithstanding:" Which was this Day read the First time.

And the Question being put, That this Proviso be read the Second time;

It passed with the Negative.

A Proviso was tendered to this Act, in these Words: "Provided always, That the Sum of One thousand and Eighteen Pounds, Remainder of the Sum of Two thousand Five hundred Pounds, to the County of Derby, be paid by the Treasurers in this Act named, for the Use of the said County, according to an Order of Parliament of the Fourth of September 1650; any thing to the contrary in this Act contained in any-wise notwithstanding:" Which was this Day read the First time.

And the Question being put, That this Proviso be read the Second time;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Tellers for the Noes: 37.
Colonel Rich, With the Noes,
Sir John Danvers, Tellers for the Yeas: 23.
Colonel Marten, With the Yeas,

So it passed with the Negative.

A Proviso was likewise tendered; viz. "Provided, That this Act, or any thing therein contained, shall not in any-wise extend to the Avoiding of the Payment of Twenty Pounds per Annum, agreed by the late Duke of Buckingham, deceased, to be paid unto the Poor of the Parish of Belton and Branston, in the County of Rutland, out of his Lands called Stockwood and Hantswood, Parcel of the late Forest of Lichfield in the Consideration of their Right to Common in the said late Forest; but that the same shall remain and abide to the Benefit of the said Poor for ever, accordingly:" Which was read.

And the Question being put, That the Proviso be read the Second time;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Lord Mounson, Tellers for the Yeas: 25.
Sir Wm. Brereton, With the Yeas,
Sir Arthure Hesilrig, Tellers for the Noes: 26.
Mr. Bond, With the Noes,

So it passed with the Negative.