House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 28 September 1652

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 7, 1651-1660. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 7: 28 September 1652', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 7, 1651-1660( London, 1802), British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol7/pp185-186 [accessed 27 July 2024].

Tuesday, the 28th of September, 1652.

Prayers.

Correspondence with Portugall.

MR. Speaker, by way of Report, acquaints the House, that he had received Letters from the Lord Ambassador Extraordinary of the King of Portugall: Which Letters were read; and were superscribed, Illustrissimo Domino Gulielmo Lenthall, Armig. Prolocutori Parliamenti Reipubl. Angliæ A Comite Cubiliarcho Extraordinario Legato.

The one dated 28 Septembris 1652.

The other dated the 7th of July 1652.

Com r at Portsmouth.

Sir Henry Vane jun. reports from the Council of State, That the Council having taken into Consideration the Necessity of settling some fit Person to be Commissioner at Portesmouth, in the room of Captain Robert Moullon, lately deceased; and having received very good Satisfaction of the Fidelity and good Ability of Captain Francis Willoughbie, Son to the late Colonel Willoughby, late Commissioner there, for that Trust; do humbly present him to the Parliament as a fit and able Man for the Management of the State's Affairs in that Place, if the Parliament shall so think fit.

Resolved, That Captain Francis Willoughby be, and is hereby constituted, and appointed one of the Commissioners at Portesmouth, in the Place of Captain Robert Moulton, deceased; and that he have the like Commission, Power, Authority, Salary, and other Profits and Commodities, as the said Captain Robert Moulton had, or was to receive or enjoy: And that it be referred to the Council of State to see this Order put in Execution.

Delinquents Estates.

Sir Henry Vane reports, from the Council of State, That the Council is informed, that there is some Money yet remaining upon the First Bill for Sale of Delinquents Estates, not as yet charged; which would be of very good Use towards the paying off of some of the Ships Company, now come in from Sea, in case some Order were given for the disposing of it to that Purpose; and thereupon humbly to move the Parliament, that Power may be given, if they shall think fit, either to the Council of State, or the Committee of the Navy, to issue their Warrants to the Treasurers for those Monies, for the Issuing of the same to the Treasurer for the Navy, to be by him disbursed for the above-mentioned Service.

Resolved, That the Remainder of the Monies which shall be raised upon the First Act for Sale of several Lands and Estates forfeited to the Commonwealth for Treason, and not yet disposed of, or assigned by the Parliament to any particular Use, shall be employed for the Service of the Navy.

Ordered, That the Treasurers appointed by the said Act, be authorized and required to issue forth the said Remainder of the said Monies to the Treasurer of the Navy, upon such Warrant and Warrants as they shall, from time to time, receive from the Committee of the Navy: And that the Acquittance and Acquittances of the said Treasurer of the Navy, together with such Warrant, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Treasurers in the said Act, for the same.

Weavers-hall Loans.

Mr. Scott reports, from the Council of State, Matter of Fact stated touching Monies doubled at Weavers-Hall:

THAT, in pursuance of Two Ordinances of Parliament, there was secured to sundry Persons, who doubled their Monies at Weavers-Hall, viz.



	£.	£.
Upon the Ordinance of the 13th of May 1647,	400,000	484,000
Upon the Ordinance of the 3d of June 1647,	84,000	484,000

That the Persons advancing, by way of Doubling, as above, were to be repaid out of the several Securities hereafter mentioned, or which of them should first happen; viz.

Out of the Excise, in course:

Out of the Moiety of all Compositions made, or to be made, with Delinquents:

Out of the Remainder of the Proceeds of Bishops Lands:

Out of the Proceed of the Estates and Sale of the Lands of Papists, except Advowsons and Impropriations, which have been in Arms against the Parliament, which of them shall first happen; together with Interest due thereupon, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. per Annum, each Six Months:

Out of the Receipts of the Excise, till Principal and Interest be fully discharged.



	£.	s.	d.
That by the Sale of Bishops Lands, there hath been discharged of the principal Debt, as by Certificate from the Register-Accomptant, dated the 16th of September 1652, the Sum of	257,035	13	-
That there remaineth more to be discharged out of the Securities above mentioned, the Sum of	226,964	7	-
Memorandum, That there remains due for several Purchasers, to be paid for Second Moieties in Weavers-Hall Bills, or otherwise, the Sum of	11,743	9	-
Which if the Committee for Obstructions, who say they have no Power to inforce the Payment thereof, or other Persons, were by the Parliament authorized and appointed by Sequestration, or otherwise, to compel the Payment of, would sink the said Debt of 226,964£. 7s. to be but	215,220	2	-

Resolved, That this Report be taken into Consideration next after the passing of the Bill for Sale of Delinquents Estates.

Navy.

Resolved, That there be Thirty new Frigates built for the Service of the Commonwealth: And that it be referred to the Council of State to take care, and give Order, that the same be done accordingly.

Relief upon Articles.

An Act for reviving a former Act for Relief of Persons, upon Articles, was this Day read the Third time.

The Question being propounded, That the Blank for the Continuance of this Act, be from the 28th of September 1652, to the 28th of September 1655;

And the Question being put, That that Question be now put;

It passed with the Affirmative.

And the main Question being put: It was

Resolved, That the Blank for the Continuance of this Act be from the 28th of September 1652, to the 28th of September 1655.

Resolved, That Colonel John Barkstead be one of the Commissioners in this Act.

Resolved, That Mr. Anthony Samuell be one of the Commissioners in this Act.

Resolved, That the Quorum be made Seven.

Resolved, That the Word "imprisoned" be inserted next after the Word "impleaded."

The Question being put, That these Words "or any otherwise damnified," do stand;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That the Word "or" be inserted next after the Word "sequestred."

The Question being put, That the last Proviso in this Act do stand;

It passed with the Affirmative.

A Proviso was tendered to this Act, in these Words; viz. "Provided that this Act, or any thing therein contained, shall not extend, or be construed to extend, to prejudice, alter, or make void, any Resolution, Votes, or Judgment, given in Parliament, touching any the Articles aforesaid, or any Persons claiming thereby:" Which Proviso was read the First time.

The Question being put, That this Proviso be read the Second time;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.



Sir Henry Mildmay,	Tellers for the Yeas:	21.
Mr. Scott,	With the Yeas,	21.
Lord General,	Tellers for the Noes:	20.
Colonel Rich,	With the Noes,	20.

So it passed with the Affirmative.

The said Proviso was read the Second time.

And the Question being put, That this Proviso be Part of the Act;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That this Proviso be rejected.

The Question being propounded, That the said Bill, so amended, do pass as a Law;

And the Question being put, That this Question be now put;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, That this Debate upon this Bill be adjourned until To-morrow Morning, the first Business.