Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 8, 1660-1667. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Monday, 23th July, 1660.
Letter from Prince Elector.
A LETTER from the Prince Elector, thus directed, viz. Illustrisibus Generosis. Nobilibus Amplissimis & Consultissimis viris Communium Angliæ in Parliamento delegatis, Dominis & Amicis Carissimis, dated at his Castle in Heidelberg, Nonis Junii, Anno 1660, subscribed Carolus Ludovicus, was read.
Ordered, That the Members of this House of the King's Majesty's Privy Council be desired to acquaint the King's Majesty with this Letter; and, if his Majesty shall think fit, that a Letter be sent by this House in Answer thereunto, that then they, and Mr. Marvell, a Member of this House, do, together with the Members that serve for the Universities, prepare an Answer, and present it to this House.
Commissioners of Sewers.
Sir Wm. Wheeler reports Amendments, and a Proviso to be added to the Bill sent down from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the present nominating of Commissioners of Sewers; which were twice read; and, upon the Question, agreed unto.
The said Amendment and Proviso are as followeth, viz.
Line 19. after the Word "Chancellor," insert "the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, the Lord Chief Baron of the Exchequer, and the Justices of either Bench, for the Time being, or any Three of them, whereof the Lord Chancellor to be One."
Line 20. leave out the Word "alone."
Line 21th. leave out the Words "by the Lord Chancellor alone."
Line 26th. leave out the Word "otherwise;" after the Word "or," insert "any other Law now in Force."
"Provided always, that this Act, nor any thing therein contained, shall not extend to repeal or make void any Clause, Article, Sentence, or Power, expressed or comprised in the said Statute, made in the Three-and-twentieth Year of King Henry the Eighth, touching Sewers, from and after the Three-and-twentieth Day of October next ensuing; but that the same shall be of full Power, Force, and Virtue, as if this Act had never been made."
And the said Bill was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, with the Amendments, passed.
Sir Anthony Irby is to carry it to the Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by * * * *, Two of the Masters of the Chancery;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned the Bill for Poll Money, with some Amendments and Provisoes; to which they desire your Concurrence.
The Messengers were again called in; and Mr. Speaker gave them this Answer;
Gentlemen, The House hath considered of your Message; and will return an Answer by Messengers of their own.
Message to King-Cloth Duty.
Ordered, That the Members of this House, who are of the King's Majesty's Privy Council, do attend his Majesty, and humbly represent to him, that this House hath received Notice of an Order of his Council, for the inhibiting of Merchants from shipping their Cloths; together with the Desire of this House, that the Merchants may be at Liberty to ship their Cloths till the Twenty-fourth of July 1660, according to the Order of both Houses of Parliament; and that, in case any Duties shall be taken in any of the Out Ports, by virtue of the said Order of the Council, for any woolen Cloths, which shall be shipped before the said Twenty-fourth of July 1660, the same may be restored to the Merchants.
Tonage and Poundage.
The House resumed the Debate upon the ingrossed Bill for Tonage and Poundage.
A Proviso, ingrossed, was tendered to the said Bill, to this Effect; that no Person who, after the Twentyfourth of June 1660, and before the Twenty-fourth of July in the same Year, who have paid, received, or collected, any Duties or Customs, according to the Rates used in April 1660, shall be molested, or any ways impeached, for or concerning the Payment or Receipt of the said Duties, or any other Duties, by this Act imposed. And it is hereby further declared, that no Person who hath shipped any Goods since the said Twentyfourth June, before the said Twenty-fourth of July, shall be liable to the Payment of any Duties therefore; other than such as were used to be paid in the said Month of April 1660.
Resolved, That this Proviso be read.
The said Proviso was read the First and Second time.
Proceedings of Regicides.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Glanville and Mr. Glascock;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have sent us down to you with this Message;
They have received divers Papers from you of late, concerning the Proceedings about the Death of the late King's Majesty; and, among the rest, they find, in one, these Words, "that all the said Proceedings be inrolled, and recorded amongst the Parliament Rolls;" and they humbly desire, that this House will return that Roll to their Lordships.
The Messengers being called in again, Mr. Speaker gave them this Answer;
The House hath considered of your Message from the Lords; to which they return this Answer;
That they have inquired after the Inrollment mentioned in the Journal sent from this House to the Lords; but find none here; and, if they had found any such Inrollment here, they would have taken Order to have cancelled it.
Ordered, That Colonel Birch do bring in a Bill for the Continuance of the Excise, with a Blank as to the Time.
Rate on Cloth.
Resolved, That the House do resume the Debate upon the Rate to be set upon Cloth.
Answer to Message.
Sir Anthony Ashley Cooper acquaints the House, that, according to the Command of this House, he had attended his Majesty, with their Desire concerning the Shipping off of woolen Cloth; and that his Majesty was graciously pleased to return this Answer;
That he had no Intent at all to do any thing in that Matter, but what might be acceptable to this House; that, in regard his Majesty heard not, that this House was about that Business in the Evening on Saturday last; and Information coming to the Board, that many Commodities, especially Cloth, were shipping out, and that the Custom thereof was likely to be lost, the said Order of Restraint was made: That nevertheless, upon the Desire of this House, he was pleased forthwith to take off the said Order, and gave Mr. Secretary Order immediately to signify his Pleasure in that Behalf; and that the Commissioners of the Customs are sent to Mr. Secretary, to receive a Signification of his Majesty's Pleasure, accordingly.
Ordered, That Sir Anthony Irby do signify to the House of Lords the Desire of this House, that they will sit at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon.
Commissioners of Sewers.
Sir Anthony Irby did this Day carry to the Lords the Bill for the present nominating of Commissioners of Sewers, with the Amendments and Provisoes, in Parchment, annexed, signed under the Signing of the Lords at the Foot of the Bill, A Cest Bill, avecque les Amendments, et Proviso, les Communes ont assentus; and the Proviso signed, at the upper End, towards the Right Hand, Soit baille aux Seigneurs.
Lords will sit.
Sir Anthony Irby reports, that the Lords will sit in the Afternoon, according to the Desire of this House.
Commissioners of Sewers.
Another Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bird and Mr. Bramson;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have returned you back the Bill for present nominating of Commissioners of Sewers; and do consent to the Amendments and Provisoes therein; and have inserted another Provisoe of their own, to which they desire your Concurrence.
Which Proviso was read; and was to this Effect; that his Majesty's Royal Assent to this Act shall not determine this present Session of Parliament.
The Messengers being again called in, Mr. Speaker gave them this Answer;
Gentlemen, The House has considered of your Message; and of the Proviso, that you brought down to the Bill for nominating Commissioners of Sewers; and they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That it be referred to a Committee, to take care that what shall be taken off from the Rate of woolen Manufacture, may be laid upon other Commodities of as great a Certainty and Value; viz. unto Colonel Birch, Sir Geo. Downing, Mr. Jolliffe, Mr. Vincent, Sir Anthony Ashley Cooper, Mr. Boscawen, Mr. Annesley, Mr. Bulkley, Mr. Elliot, Sir Tho. Rich, Serjeant Hales, Mr. Lowther, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Holles, Mr. Bampfeild, Mr. Grove, Mr. Rolles, Mr. Swinfin, Mr. Walpoole, Mr. Knight, Sir John Northcot, Mr. Onslow, or any Five of them: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.
A Bill for Continuance of the Duty of Excise was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Committee to whom the Business touching woolen Manufactures is referred.
The House adjourns itself till Three of the Clock in the Afternoon.
Monday, July 23d, 1660, Afternoon.
Restoring Marquis of Ormond.
A BILL, ingrossed, for restoring unto James Marquis of Ormond all his Honours, Manors, Lands, and Tenements in Ireland, whereof he was in Possession on the Three-and-twentieth of October 1641, or at any time since, was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, passed.
That my Lord Aungier do carry this Bill to the Lords.
Ordered, That the Title of the said Bill be, An Act for restoring unto James Marquis of Ormond all his Honours, Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments in Ireland, whereof he was in Possession on the Twenty-third of October 1641, or at any time since.
The Lord Angier carried the said Bill to the Lords.
A Bill for Maintenance of a Minister in the Town of Harwich, in the County of Essex, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Sir Gilbt. Gerrard, Mr. Harris, Sir Edward Turner, the Knights and Burgesses for the County of Essex, Mr. Nath. Bacon, Colonel West, Mr. Goodrick, Mr. Whitmore, Serjeant Hale, Colonel Jones, Mr. Pryn, Mr. Shaw, Sir Geo. How, Sir Capell Luckin: And they are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the Court of Wards: And Mr. Shaw is to take care of it.
A Bill providing Maintenance for the younger Children of Sir Edward Gostwick Baronet, was this Day read the First time.
Ordered, That this Bill be read the Second time on Friday next.
Commissioners of Sewers.
Ordered, That a Bill be brought in, To-morrow Morning, for nominating Commissioners of Sewers, according to the Debate of this House; viz. by Colonel King, Sir Anthony Irby, and Serjeant Hales.
Advances to the Public.
Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired to the Orders for charging of Twenty thousand Pounds for preparing Requisites for his Majesty's Reception, on the Ordinance for Three Months Assessment, commencing the Twenty-fourth of June last, after Seventy thousand Pounds per Month; allowing Interest after Six per Cent. to the Persons who shall advance any Part thereof upon Security of the said Ordinance.
Ordered, That Mr. Annesley do desire the Lords Concurrence herein.
A Bill appointing Commissioners for the Army, and Treasurers at War, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto Mr. Pryn, Mr. Allen, Sir Henage Finch, Lord Angier, Colonel West, Sir Walter Earle, Sir Solomon Swale, Mr. Charlton, Sir Tho. Meeres, Colonel King, Colonel Jones, Sir Edward Turner, Mr. Goodrick, Mr. Ravenscroft, Mr. Buscawen, Mr. Boderda, Mr. Elliot, Mr. Ransford, Mr. Ellison, Mr. Cullison, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Swinfin, Mr. Thomas, Sir John Frederick, Sir Lancelot Lake, Lord Broghill, Mr. Reames, Mr. Spry, Mr. Thorneton, Sir John Holland, Mr. Hide, Mr. Babington, Sir John Carter, Sir Anthony Irby, Sir George Booth: And they are to meet To-morrow, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Queen's Court.
Book of Rates.
Colonel Birch reports from the Committee, touching the Rate upon woolen Manufactures, as followeth; viz.
That upon every Ton of Wines, of the Growth of France, Jermany, Portugall, or Madera, there shall be paid Three Pounds, by way of Customs, unto his Majesty, over and above what it is, by the Book of Rates now agreed upon, appointed to be paid by the Merchant Importer at Nine Months time; having the usual Allowance now made at the Custom House upon those Wines; giving Security for Payment of the same:
That Four Pounds per Ton, upon all other Wines imported, shall be added to his Majesty's Customs; to be paid and secured in like manner:
That the Imposition of Excise be henceforth discharged from all Wines:
That the Committee are of Opinion, the Monies that will arise to his Majesty by this Addition, will be of greater Value than what would arise to his Majesty by one Half of the Customs upon all Woolen Manufactures, as they paid the First of January 1659.
The Question being propounded, that the One Peny per Pound charged on Tobacco imported from the English Foreign Plantations, by way of Excise, be taken off, and discharged; and that, in lieu thereof, One Peny per Pound be transferred, and charged in the Book of Rates for Customs, as a further Addition to the Customs upon Tobacco, imported from the said Plantations;
And the Question being put, That the Question be now put;
It passed in the Affirmative.
And the main Question being put; it was
Resolved, That one Peny per Pound charged on Tobacco imported from the English Foreign Plantations, by way of Excise, be taken off, and discharged; and that, in lieu thereof, One Peny per Pound be transferred, and charged in the Book of Rates for Customs, as a further Addition to the Custom upon Tobacco imported from the said Plantations.
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, that upon every Ton of Wines, of the Growth of France, Jermany, Portugall, or Madera, there shall be paid Three Pounds, by way of Customs, unto his Majesty, over and above what it is, by the Book of Rates now agreed upon, appointed to be paid by the Merchant Importer at Nine Months time; having the usual Allowance now made at the Custom House upon those Wines; giving Security for Payment of the same.
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, that Four Pounds per Ton, upon all other Wines imported, shall be added to his Majesty's Customs; to be paid and secured in like Manner.
Resolved, That this House doth agree with the Committee, that the Imposition of Excise be henceforth discharged from all Wines.
Resolved, That one Half of the Customs paid upon Woolen Manufactures, by the Book of Rates used in January 1659, be taken off, and discharged.
Resolved, That, according to these preceding Votes, the Bill for Tonage and Poundage, and the Book of Rates referring thereunto, be amended.
Resolved, That it be referred to the same Committee that brought in the Bill for Tonage and Poundage, and the said Book of Rates, to amend the same accordingly.
Colonel Birch reports Amendments to the Bill for Excise: Which were read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, agreed unto.
Resolved, That, after these Words in the Amendments, viz. "all Arrears thereof," these Words be added, viz. "not pardoned."
Resolved, That this Bill, so amended, be ingrossed.
A Bill, ingrossed, for Continuance of the Excise to the 20th of August 1660; was this Day read the Third time.
Resolved, That, in the Twelfth Line, after the Word "imported," and before the Word "discharged," these Words, viz. "after the 24th of July 1660, shall henceforth" be inserted.
Resolved, That the present Commissioners of the Customs and Excise be, and are hereby, required, not to suffer any Goods to be entered and shipped, after Twelve . . . the Clock this Night, till they shall receive the further Pleasure of his Majesty, and both Houses of Parliament, in that Behalf.
Newcastle upon Tyne Writ.
Ordered, That a new Writ be issued, for the Election of a Member to serve in this present Parliament for the Town and County of Newcastle upon Tine, in the Place of Wm. Coverley Esquire, deceased; and that Mr. Speaker do issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, to prepare a new Writ for the Purpose aforesaid: Which the Lord Chancellor is to issue and pass under the Great Seal of England accordingly.