Henry VIII: November 1540, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 16, 1540-1541. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1898.

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November 1540, 11–20

11 Nov. 252. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meetings at Windsor, 8, 9, 10, and 11 Nov. Present: Durham, King's Chamb., Comptroller (except on the 10th), Wriothesley. No business recorded.
11 Nov. 253. Pate to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
On the 29th ult., about 4 p.m., received the King's letters of the 25th from Windsor. Sent for John Van Dicke to supper, telling him that, as the Emperor was departed and I would not tarry long, I could not upon our small acquaintance depart without his knowledge. After supper, when my other guests had gone, he said if he were worthy to be in the Emperor's Council he would advise him to have a council of 12 grave and wise personages and as many young men under them, to succeed them, with a fixed honest living each, so that they might regard more the common wealth than their own commodities. He quoted the effect of the two persons I before wrote of, seducing their masters concerning the interruption of the Lady Mary's marriage; adding that “Monsieur de la Schauxe had a basin heaped full of Portugues to advance the Empress, determined at that time to have Caesar or none to the said marriage by his favourable report sent to view her personage and qualities.” There were other princes misled by councillors corrupted by “annual gifts.” And he said (words quoted) that while Mr. Secretary Wriothesley and he did their best for the marriage with the Duchess of Milan there were “other that never ceased running hither and thither by night in post and in especially to Cleaves,” as he could prove to one man's face who was here so busy and pert, taking upon him in reasoning more at table than the ambassador himself, and might have had good preferment for it if Cromwell had lived, from whom he (Van Dike) had received frequent invitations to England and promises. Thus he reported the Doctor (fn. 1) associate here with Mr. Secretary to have been of small grace. To approve himself English and show that some about the Emperor love us not, he said he had been in the Emperor's privy chamber when Mons. de Prat entered and said “Syre do you believe and give credit to this man sworne English”? “Whom mean you? Dicke my servant most faithful? Yea, I must love him never the worse therefor, but rather much the better.” Here he extolled the favour he was in with the Emperor, who often sent him messages by Simonet and Adrian, his right and left hands, from whom he knew the Emperor's affection towards the King and his daughter, whom he considered before God as his true wife. Could not induce him to say who was the man with us who loved neither God nor his master nor yet this family. Said I was advised by a friend of great authority and wisdom not to move the King about the marriage unless the overture proceeded from the Emperor or his Council. He said he could not move herein, being but a “counsellor de pages” and he knew well that whatever was moved would “come to a like dispensation (fn. 2) as the Duchess of Milan did, the very impediment of the same, wherein the Emperor during his life will follow his forefathers.” So I had better meddle no further until I came to Germany, and perhaps in three months there would be more to write; he would, besides, see me at Ameurs (Namur) before I left. He then made a concluding speech (quoted) and took leave “full gently.” Thinks the Emperor will not marry again, but will advance his brother's children, whom he wishes to be active and brought up in riding and the like, and lately sent them “Granathois brother, (fn. 3) your servant, to teach them.” Lile, 11 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
11 Nov. 254. Bishopric of Kildare.
R. O. Note that in Consistory, 11 Nov. 1540, “referente R'mo Ghinnuccio, the Pope appointed Thadeus Raynaldus, (fn. 4) priest, to the church of Kildare, in Ireland, void by the death of Donald. (fn. 5)
Latin. Modern transcript from the Vatican.
11 Nov. 255. Covos to Luis Sarmiento.
Add. MS.
f. 230.
B. M.
On the death of dom Duarte, Infant of Portugal. Gives the news of Italy and the Levant. Madrid, 11 Nov. 1540.
Spanish. Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 6. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 141.
12 Nov. 256. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 12 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Privy Seal, Durham, King's Chamb., Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Letter sent to Sir Robt. Dormer and Sir Ant. Lee to examine and punish Thos. Watson, of Brykehil, Scot, for “contumelious words and things spoken and done by him.”
12 Nov. 257. Maltravers and Others to Henry VIII.
R. O. As commanded by letters of the King's Council, have caused the Surveyor of Works here to fill, with chalk, the West Jetty and repair Paradise quay, and they are thought safe for the winter. Trust the King will new make them with stone. Note the unfinished state of the new bulwark at Beauchamp's Tower and the King's intention of making a new gate at Princes Inn and repairing the Search Tower, both works most necessary for tuition of the town. John Lethom and other soldiers have obtained grants to be particular surveyors: they are insufficient for want of experience, and the rooms are superfluous. Calais, 12 Nov. 1540. Signed: H. Mawtravers—Edwarde Wotton—Thomas Ponynges—Edward Ryngeley.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
12 Nov. 258. Pate to the Council.
R. O. On 29 Oct. I received your letters, and perceive how I and my chaplain are bound to the King for his gracious interpretation of the wicked traitor, John Heliare's, letters directed to us. Verbose protestation of his attachment to the King and his doctrines. Begs pardon for his “dark writing,” which is his “style,” and he cannot alter it “without a further obscurity.”
The assembly of doctors in Germany, among whom Grandeveale now is (I think) shall be at Worms, and the Diet, as the Emperor told the Venetian ambassador in confidence, perhaps at Ratisbon.
The French ambassador says if his affairs come not to pass before they leave Almain, he will return home, “trusting no more to see Spain.” In Gaunt, on All Hallow Day, about 11 o'clock, Monfaulconet sent for me to wait on his Majesty at the church. Was dismounting in the basecourt to go up to the Emperor's chamber, when Monfalconet met me on his mule, and said the Emperor was even then coming, “and, upon his further stay, showed me the said orator kept him communication upon the delivery of a letter from the Queen his mistress of an old date, that the Devil of Hell take him quo' he.” The Emperor descending gave me very good countenance, which was much noted. Within the church the “mentioned orator communed with him after a wonderful loving and familiar sort, asking his leave, as he made me believe, to go see his own toward Cales, there to put himself in an order for the journey and to return to Arras, but therein, after his accustomable fashion, failing, prevented the Emperor in Lile the fourth day after” (his secretary meanwhile following the Court) where, being referred to De Pratte for a final answer, he told me “he would go straight to his own.”
The Emperor left Brussels 30 Oct., reached Gante the same night, Odennere (Oudenarde) on All Souls Day after dinner, and thence to Courtrey, where he tarried a day, and pardoned 50 of the mutineers of Gaunt, only two suffering for an example. Thence he came to Turney, where he required of the peasants only 20,000 florins, having respect to their poverty and late losses in war. At Lile, where he soon after came they gave him 120,000 florins; both towns being privileged and exempt from the tax of the body of Flanders. The king of the Romans prospers in Hungary, the river Danubie being at his command. Grandeveale had with him into Germany two doctors of divinity and a young man lately put to the Emperors service, who is very learned in tongues. De Pratte lately offered me his service. The town of Lile made me a great present of wine. The Emperor will tarry 15 days in Ameurs. Yper, 12 Nov.
“This packet directed to my lord Privy Seal was delivered to me by Chamberlane, Master Wiates servant, the 9th of this present.” Signed.
2. Add. Endd.
12 Nov. 259. Franciscus Contareno to Pate.
R. O. Desires to hear of his health and that of all his household, especially of Prestanti (?) and Jonegerriomo (?), his secretary. Tarries still in Brussels, as his secretary is ill with fever. No news from Venice or Hungary. Encloses the ordinances made by the Emperor upon the affairs of these Provinces, just printed. Brussels, 12 Nov. 1540. Signed: Stor Franciscus Contareno or. Venetorum.
Lat., p. 1. Add.: in Curia Cæsaris. Endd.: “Venetorum orator Mro. Pate, Anglie Orator, 12 Novembr.”
13 Nov. 260. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 13 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:— Letter sent to the captain of Berwick to certify whether the king of Scots has provided close carts and yokes for carriage and proclaimed that no victual be brought to Berwick. Thos. Thwaytes, servant to — Shyrington, page of the Wardrobe of Robes, accused by servants of Ric. Cecylle, yeoman, committed to the Porter's ward for speaking traitorous words.
13 Nov. 261. Deputy and Council of Ireland to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., iii.
Received his letters dated Grafton, 26 Sept., to exile OConnor and give his lands to his brother. Brereton and the Council were forced to take an order with OConnor when Desmond and all the Irish confederated, and cannot now break it without shame; besides, OConnor is now very humble and, if granted the King's protection, will either amend or they (by cutting passes and building castles) will make his country easier to destroy. Advise that his petition to be baron of Offailey should be granted. Dublin, 13 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII. Signed by Sentleger, Alen, Dublin, Ormond, Meath, Aylmer, Luttrell, Bathe, Brabazon, Houth, and Basnet.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
13 Nov. 262. Lord Maltravers to Henry VIII.
R. O. On both adjoining frontiers here, musters are annually taken. The rare mustering of the King's subjects of the East and West Marches occasions ignorance of the number of able men and lack of weapons. The Council of Calais think that musters should be taken before Christmas and the able men enjoined to funish themselves with bills, pikes, or handguns. Divers matters are delayed because Sir Edw. Wotton has not yet taken his oath for the room of Treasurer here; nor can do so until the King signs his patent, which remains with Sir Thomas Wriothesley. The King allowed Wotton 20s. a day from the time of his coming till 6 Oct., since which day he and his 13 servants have had no allowance, to his great charge (considering the dearth of victuals). Although he have his room from 6 Oct. his servants can have no allowance till they have received their oaths. Desires that Wotton may be allowed diets from 6 Oct. onward. Has found him a man of wisdom, experience, and good will. Calais, 13 Nov. 1540. Signed.
2. Add. Sealed. Endd.: Deputy.
13 Nov. 263. Lord Maltravers to the Council.
R. O. This 13 Nov., I and the rest of the Council being assembled, Stephen the Almayne delivered me your letters dated Windsor the 8th for a “platte” to be made of the town and marches without letting the said Stephen know the secrets of the fortifications, &c. Consulted my fellows and (“the late departure into England of the Surveyor, not returning before Christmas, considered”) as there is none here meet to join with the said Stephen and he is not to know the secrets of the fortifications, have stayed him till we hear again from you. It will be hard to hide the secrets of the fortresses from him. Calais, 13 Nov. 1540. Signed.
1. Add.: Council attending the King's person. Endd.: Lord Deputy.
14 Nov. 264. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 14 Nov. Present: Chancellor, Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, lord Chamb., Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Letters written to Ant. Rowsse to repair to Court; and to the Deputy of Calais to cause all the garrison and others to be furnished with half a year's victual beforehand (for purveying of which experienced persons and money should be sent), and to appoint gunners.
14 Nov. 265. Deputy and Council of Ireland to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., iii.
Continuing the reduction of Leinster; after the journey upon the Cavanaghes and warning in writing sent to the O'Tholes to submit and depart from their land, the army entered the O'Tholes' country. Re-edified a ruined castle of the abp. of Dublin's there, suitable for subduing the O'Tholes and keeping the Birnes in order. Continued pursuing the O'Tholes (of whom they slew divers) three weeks, Ormond assisting with 600 men, Thirrologh, chief of the O'Tholes, who is now repaired to England offered to submit if he and his kindred might retain certain lands. Refused this, but gave him leave to repair to the King to make suit to the King, and meanwhile took him and his brother to peace. He might do important service. Describe his position and beg that he may have Powerscourt Castle and lands in Fercullen; and his brother, Arte Oge O'Thole, Castle Keven and its lands called the Fertur. These lands described in a book enclosed.
The O'Birnes, who are wealthier than the O'Tholes, have also submitted. Enclose draft of device for the “obedience of Leinster.” The lands of the Order of St. John's here would bear the charges. Desire authority to certain of them to grant the lands of such Irish as make submission to them under the Great Seal of Ireland. Dublin, 14 Nov. Signed by Sentleger, Alen, Ormond, Meath, Gormanston, Rawson, Aylmer, Brabason, Luttrell, Bathe, Houthe, and Basnet.
6. Endd.
R. O.
St. P. iii.
2. Petitions of Tyrrelagh O'Thoole and his brother Arte Oge O'Thoole.
The former to have the lands of Fercullen (described), and the latter Castle Keven with the lands in the Ferture upon a certain tenure (described). The gift to be ratified by Parliament.
P. 1. Endd.
R. O. 3. Another copy of § 2.
P. 1.
St. P., iii.
4. Devices for the reformation of Leinster.
Fernes Castle, adjoining the cathedral of the bp. of Fernes, to be residence of a Great Master. Table of the cost of horsemen, gunners, &c., of the Great Master, who should rule Leinster next under the Deputy, and 12 Pensioners. Gaols at Rosse, Wexford, or elsewhere. The Great Master and Pensioners to make their account at Dublin the Octaves of St. Martin and Trinity before the Deputy, Chancellor, Chief Justices, and Chief Baron; and receive their stipends of the Vice-Treasurer. Chief Pensioner to succeed as Great Master. Duties, &c., of Great Master and Pensioners.
ii. My lord of Ormond's device:—
Great Master, Ric. Butler. Chief pensioner, (fn. 6) John Travers. 2nd pensioner, Cahere McArte. Donoll McCahere, Arte McDonough, Murghe McGarad, and Crevene Cavanaghe; Arte Oge OTole, brother to Tyrloghe; Teige Oge OBryn, Edmonde OBryn, eldest son to OBryn, the lord of Kilcullen's second son, Edm. Butler of Polleston, Watkyn Apowell. (fn. 6)
iii. Persons nominated to the said rooms by the Council:—
Wm. Brabazon to be seneschal of Wexford and Great Master inhabiting Fernes Castle recompensing Wm. Sayntlowe for the seneschalship, which is but 20l. John Travers, master of the Ordnance, to be constable of Carlow and Chief Pensioner because he can speak the language. Thomas Dacars, if he come to inhabit Ireland, to have Clannogan Castle and be second pensioner; if not, the lord of Kilcullen to be second pensioner and Edmund Duffe third. Lord Kilcullen at Clommore and Balkynglas castles (the former to be recovered from Ormond by exchange) 3rd pensioner. Browne of Malrankan (fn. 7) to be in Innescorthe. Cahere McArte Cavanagh, chief of the Cavanaghes, at Clomullyn. Donoll McCahere, Creven, Arte McDonogh, and Murgh McGarad, captains of the Cavanaghes. Watkin Aphowell, an Englishman who has long served there. Laur. Nevell with the Great Master. Edm. Butler of Pollestoun in the friars of Leghlene.
Pp. 9. Endd.: The devises of Irland.
R. O. 5. Another copy of § 4.
Pp. 9. Endd.: Devyses for Laynster.
15 Nov. 266. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 15 Nov. Present: Chancellor, Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Letters under Stamp sent to Angus and Sir Geo. Douglas to repair to Court. Letters to the Treasurer of Augmentations to deliver diet money to Winchester and Sir Hen. Knyvet, and also the money for the garrison of Calais.
15 Nov. 267. Sir Edw. Wotton to Mr. Surveyor of Calais.
R. O. At your departure I desired you to move Mr. Wriothesley to further my suits to the King. I now write to him, and beg you to deliver my letter, and not forget my request. 1 and 13 of my servants have continued, since 6 Oct., without wages, and my lord Deputy has written to the King and Mr. Wriothesley for an allowance such as I had before; I pray you assist my suit. “Finally prepare you with patience and arm you with audacity, for ye shalbe called to answer (as I hear) for Shottisford's room and more, not doubting but you will easily and reasonably avoid the same.” Calais, 15 Nov. 1540.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
16 Nov. 268. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 16 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Admiral, Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Thos. Thwaytes sent to the Tower with a letter to the Lieutenant, declaring his confession, and commanding, if he persists in denial, to give him a stretch or two upon the brake. Letter to Sir Thos. Arundel to send up Joan Benbury, accused of treason; to Hertford, to send a book of the description of 1,000 men appointed to have gone with him when he was sent to Calais (fn. 8); to the Deputy of Calais, to appoint Fras. Hall, in the Surveyor's absence, to join Stephen th'Almain in making the platt of the marches about Cowbridge; to Treasurer and Comptroller of Calais, to pay John a Boroughes wages for the time he was absent in the King's service. Thos. Derby, the Queen's secretary, put up a complaint against Sir Edw. Willoughby, and it was decreed to send for Willoughby. At suit of David Vincent, of the Wardrobe of Beds, Miles Forest, Robt. Browne, and — (blank), were sent for. Ric. Ledes, suspected of piracy, examined and committed to ward.
16 Nov. 269. Marillac to Francis I.
R. O.
Kaulek, 241.
the whole
London, 16 Nov.:—Since the 5th a bruit has run that this King was despatching two ambassadors, Knyvet to France and Winchester to the Emperor, as Marillac wrote to the Constable. It is since known that both these personages are going to the Emperor, and that they leave in two days, and their horses are already embarked for Calais. The delay was caused by their preparations, for their company will number a hundred horsemen, all in grey velvet, with great gold chains on their necks. The common saying is that Knyvet goes as ordinary ambassador, to replace him who is now there, and that Winchester has little to do and may be back in two months. Of many opinions touching the meaning of this magnificent legation, the best seems to be that this King would purge himself towards the Emperor and the German princes, by giving his reasons for repudiating the duke of Cleves' sister and marrying the present Queen, and proving that nothing has been innovated here upon the doctrines of the primitive Church; this King fearing that, in the German Diets, it might be said he only observed the law of marriage at his pleasure, and innovated nothing in religion but what served ambition and avarice. Winchester is chosen because he was one of the principal authors of this last marriage, which led to the ruin of the late Cromwell, and, being a man of some knowledge, can demonstrate that things are as before in religion, and prove by the number of his servants that the church of England is not so despoiled as might be thought. Although the above is likely, if Marillac were allowed to guess he wrould say that this embassy was to practise with the Emperor as Norfolk did with Francis; for, knowing that they have offended everyone, they dread a combination of the Christian princes against them, and think their safety lies in keeping Francis and the Emperor, the two chiefs of Christendom, at discord.
Supposes Francis has heard this King's reply to his proposal, made to the English ambassador, to submit the difference about the bridge (fn. 9) between Calais and Ardres to deputies. This King and his ministers, who were at first very indignant, now profess to be greatly pleased at the honorable offers made by Francis, and use most gracious language, saying they wish always to remain good neighbours with us. The work of the ramparts in places where an enemy could land continues, and a German (fn. 10) who superintends the fortification of Calais and Guisnes is sent for, in haste, to design new bulwarks. The duke of Suffolk reckons to leave in three or four days to view the work at Calais. Some say he goes further, but it is not likely, considering his age and health. The King lately came privately to this town, for two days, to see certain war machines and instruments for throwing fire invented by Germans and Italians here. He intends before Easter next to prepare six swift galleys, similar to those at Marseilles, for crossing to Calais and coasting. The English seem to be preparing for war, but rather defensive than offensive.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 5.
16 Nov. 270. Marillac to Montmorency.
R. O.
Kaulek, 243.
(A long extract.)
London, 16 Nov.:—Looks for some word of answer to his letters of the 21st ult. and 1st and 5th inst. Writes so fully to the King that he need only add that, whereas some thought Winchester's journey was to treat a marriage of the princess or England, Madame Marie, with the Emperor, that seems quite out of the question. She was declared illegitimate, for which cause the duke of Cleves would not marry her, and as such she was promised to duke Philip of Bavaria with a very small dot, 30,000 or 40,000 cr. Moreover, the King will not marry her out of England, lest the Crown of England should be claimed for her as legitimate by the Church and not for those born since the withdrawal from obedience to the Holy See, like the Prince. What was passed by Parliament touching her legitimacy could not be revoked without confessing the Pope's authority, which would require some reparation for the goods taken, holy places profaned and good and learned men put to death. Considering the war preparations here, the works at Ardres should be hastened, which have caused this distrust and the fortifying of Calais and Guisnes.
Has received two letters from the Chancellor, one of the 26th ult. touching the bridge of Ardres, for Marillac to move this King to appoint deputies to show his right to the said bridge, which has been already obtained through Wallop; the other of the 2nd inst., in reply to what Marillac wrote, directing him to insist on the exemption of French subjects from the tax on strangers, provided it was done dexterously without giving offence. Writes now to the Chancellor that the affair of the bridge is settled, as far as regards him, and that as for the tax it has been promised that nothing should be concluded without him.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 3.
16 Nov. 271. Sir Thomas Cheyne.
Lamb. MS.,
959, No. 26.
Receipt given, 16 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII., by Sir Thos. Cheyne, treasurer of the King's household, warden and admiral of the “Synk” Ports, for 40l. due to him at Mich. last, for his whole year's fee of the high stewardship of all the abp. of Canterbury's lands, and received by his servant Ric. Bedell. Signed.
A slip of paper inserted at p.
398 of a copy of Parker de Antiquitate Britannicæ Ecclesiæ.
16 Nov. 272. Sentleger to the Duke of Norfolk.
R. O.
St. P., iii.,
The OBerns, Tooles, and Cavernaghs have submitted. Writes as “bound to love and serve your blood with whom I have had my bringing up”; and also because he would beg Norfolk to “set forth” his and the Council's letter to the King. Tyrlogh O'Toole, Norfolk's old servant, repairs into England, and to treat him well might lead to the reduction of Leinster. The Tooles live by exacting tributes, 400 or 500 mks, a year, from the King's subjects. As Tyrlogh calls himself Norfolk's servant, the writer gave him 20l. and promised to write to Norfolk in his favour. In spite of his wretchedness of life, his courage is great, and he refused to join ONeill, ODonell, OChonor, and the great lords in their late attack, but afterwards made war alone. More honesty can be got against ONeill than against such as Tyrlogh who have nothing to lose. Kilmainham, 16 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII. Signed.
2. Add. Endd.
17 Nov. 273. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 17 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Gt. Admiral, Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. No business recorded.
17 Nov. 274. The Privy Council to the Deputy of Calais.
R. O. The King having conferred with us upon your late letters touching the state of victuals and of shot, &c., has resolved to take order that the town and fortresses shall be well furnished in future. Meanwhile you shall make a secret survey what victual is in the town and command each of the garrison to provide victual for himself and household for half a year, according to the Statute, gathering thus all the victual that may be spared within the Pale. Likewise cause the mayor and townsmen to provide for themselves. As the King will send a special person to survey what is done it were wisdom to proceed effectually. Shot, &c., shall be sent. The King marvels you should not be sufficiently furnished with gunners, considering the allowance of powder he yearly gives and the law made for “thencoring of men to the lernyng of experymet of that feate.” If you can get men there, you are to take them into wages; if not, they shall be sent.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 3. Endd.: Minute to my lord Deputy of Calais, 17 Nov.
17 Nov. 275. Southwell, Collegiate Church.
R. O.
xiv. 674.
Surrender (by the chapter) of the church and all its possessions in co. Notts and elsewhere in England. 17 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII. No signatures. [See Deputy Keeper's Eighth Report, App. ii. 41.]
Seal injured.
Enrolled [Cl. Roll p. 1, No. 2] as acknowledged, same day, before Nich. Bacon, Wm. Bolles and Wm. Cowper, King's commissioners, at Southwell.
Close Roll,
p. 1, No. 3.
xiv. 676.
2. Surrender by the vicars choral (names and prebends recited) of their chief house or mansion in Southwell and all their possessions, 12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.
Confirmed, same day, by the chapter.
Acknowledged, same day, before Nich.Bacon, Wm. Bolles and Wm Cowper, King's commissioners.
ii. Similar surrender by the chaplains of chantries in the said church. With the same confirmation, acknowledged the same day.
iii. Similar separate surrenders, by the prebendaries, of their prebends; severally confirmed and acknowledged as above, viz.:—
Dated 12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(1) Ric. Deane, prb. of Halughton, (2) Edw. Bassett, prb. of Oxton.
17 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(3) John Fitzherbert, prb. of the second prebend of Oxton.
8 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(4) Matth. Wytton, prb. of Eton.
12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(5) Geoff. Downes, S.T.P., prb. of Palishall in Norwell. (6) Geo. Savage, prb. of Beckyngham. (7) John Adams, prb. of the Sacristan's prebend.
8 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(8) Thos. Whyte, prb. of Normanton. (9) Geo. Dudley, prb. of Woodbrughe.
12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(10) Thos. Marsar, prb. of Northleverton. (11) John Brandesbe, prb. of Dunham.
8 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(12) Hen. Williams, prb. of Northmuskam. (13) Thos. Wynter, prb. of Bampton (sic, for Rampton).
12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(14) John Langgrysche, prb. of South Muskam.
12 Oct. 32 Hen. VIII.:—(15) John Olyver, prb. of Overhall in Norwell.
17 Nov. 276. Wallop to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.,
According to your letters by Thadeus of the 2nd inst., I repaired to Court early, at Corbett, five leagues from Paris, “doubting the French king's departure thence.” Found the Constable walking in a garden, who gently called me, asked how your Majesty did, and said if my matter were not long I should speak with the King before he went to horseback, but if long I had better do it riding by the way. As soon as the King was ready he sent for me and presented me to him. I said that, upon my report of our conference at Maison, your Highness commanded me to say that, whereas his ministers at Arde have used themselves in executing their appetites upon your ground far otherwise than your honour could sustain, coming with “force of arms, banner displayed, and loosing of an hacbushe at one or two of your Council” who came there peaceably afterwards to peruse the frontier; yet as, by his own words spoken to me, his said men have acted against his pleasure, &c. (evidently quoting Henry's words). He denied the banner displayed and the “loosing of the hacbushe”: only the workmen came near the river to make the bridge, and your folks peacefully communed with them. He said the Deputy of Calais had “begun things nothing worth” and would now maintain them with untrue informations. The Deputy had sent 1,000 men to the breaking of the bridge and laid archers in a barn in form of war and yet I had never heard him speak of it. I said I had not; but it was reported that he laid men in ambush, in case the Englishmen came again, to break their heads. This he denied utterly. I then said you desire two things, viz.:—1. That he would appoint two or three commissioners (not frontier men but disinterested men who were well disposed to the amity between the two countries), to discuss the matter. To this he replied he had already studied that and would give me the names if I would come in three or four days to Fowntayne de Bleawe. 2. As the east side of the river is yours without contradiction, so that half the bridge must needs be yours, and as his officers had broken up again the passage they made in so “unseemly a sort,” saving only a small way for footmen, that he would order them likewise to break the footbridge until the commissioners should determine the matter. He replied that to break the bridge would be to resign his title and then there would be no need of commissioners. As to the unseemly breaking of the bridge, he ordered it, considering that if his folks made it one day and yours broke it the next, it would give occasion of pique: he thought you would have been pleased. I said it was the unkind manner of breaking it that you complained of. He said you were ill informed: the footbridge was a tree he caused to be laid across to keep his possession. As to your claim to all the east side, a meadow there belonged to Arde until it was destroyed, and now it (Arde) was re-edified and inhabited, they looked to have it again: it was a case for the Commissioners.
Finally he asked very heartily how you were (knowing you were at Windsor, and that there was a restraint for Londoners not to come to Court) and what manner of house Windsor was. I said it stood on a hill with forest on one side and “champion” on the other, and at the bottom meadows and a goodly river. He asked what river? I said the Thames, “Et Hampton Court” quod he, “est il sur la mesmes ryver aussy?” I said, Yea, and so did other goodly houses, as Richmond; and I declared the magnificence of all three, especially Hampton Court. He was interested, and said he heard you used much gilding in your houses, especially in the roofs; for his part he preferred natural wood, as ebony, brasell, &c., which was more durable; he would show me Fontainebleau, especially his gallery there. He has found mines of marble nigh the sea-side, white at Marguyson, and black at Sherbroke, and you might have some for nothing if you liked to send for it; “also divers moulds of antique personages that he hath now coming out of Italy, with which he shall have done within three or four months.”
Conversed thus till he went to dinner, the Constable taking me very gently to dinner with him and causing my men to dine, “which is seldom used here.” When the Constable had dined he took me to the King's dinner, whom we found speaking of certain “masties” you gave him at Calais, and how long it took to train them; for when he first let slip one at a wild boar, he spied a white horse with a page upon him, and took the horse by the throat, and they could not pluck him off until he had strangled it. He laughed very heartily at telling this, and spoke of the pleasure he now takes in shooting with a crossbow, desiring to have a hound that would draw well to a hurt deer. Your Majesty's father sent to king Lewis, “a very good one of a mean sort, and would ride behind one.” The gentleman that brought it was brought up in France, and was named (he thought) Matthew Baker. I hear you could not do him a greater pleasure than send him such a hound. He asked me to the hunt, and by and by a hart was found and hunted till past 3 o'clock and lost, wherewith he was not content. “So suddenly he departed, in every man's opinion, towards Mellune, where the Queen, with Madame de Estampes and all the ladies looked for him; he taking his way to Fowntayne de Bleauwe, 7 leagues thence, so it was past 8 of the clock or he arrived there. The consideration whereof by my former letters written to my lord of Norfolk somewhat may be conjectured.”
At the French king's appointment, went to Fountayne de Bleawe the Sunday following, and being in the King's dining chamber abiding his going to church, the Constable chanced to look out of the Privy Chamber. Describes how the Constable welcomed him, and brought him to the King in his bed chamber, where the King, to enable him to examine the “antycall borders,” assisted him to get upon a bench which was too high for him. Afterwards the King showed him the gallery, of which he keeps the key himself as Henry does. Gives some description of the gallery, and refers to Modon, who wrought there at the beginning, for details. There are antique statues between each window, and five “tables of stories” as Lucretia and others. Such things would suit the gallery at St. James's, and the French king would gladly give the pattern. Said I wished you were here to see his gallery. “Par ma foy, Monsr Ambassadour,” quod he, “if he were, I would make him good cheer, et de bon de cœur.” He then brought me to his lodgings under the gallery to show me the bains and stoves. Found Madame de Estampes and Madame Dowbeyney in a chamber next them, where were two beds, “they more meet to be in the said baynes than to lie with their husbands.” Madame de Estampes has been long sick, and “looks thereafter,” and Madame Dawbeyney is lean, lame and withered away “and that is the cause by that I perceive of their lying there.” Describes the “bains.” The King then went to mass, commanding M. Nansey to have me to dinner and give me wine of his own “crewe.” Nansey and Monpeasade were very glad to see me so entertained. They had not for long seen an ambassador so gently handled. Having dined, repaired to the King's chamber, “who commonly after hath certain things read to him drawn out of Scripture, wherein he taketh great pleasure.” This done, the Constable told me the bp. of Rome's ambassador was behind me, but I should speak with the King first, so, taking me by the hand, he led me to him before he rose from table. Said I came by his command to know the commissioners' names and the time. He said he had appointed two, he need not name them, one of the Order, the other a master of the Requests; and the time should be after Christmas. Reminded him you had asked for two things; one was sufficiently answered, but if he would command the footbridge to be taken away you would take it gratefully. He said it was but a tree laid across to keep possession, and I thought it not fit to press him further. He then rose to speak with the Bishop's ambassador.
Neither he nor the Constable said a word about Winchester's going to the Emperor. Asked the Constable, therefore, for “the copy of the declaration that the King's almoner made before him, which I would send to my lord of Winchester, reckoning he would like it well. “Comment, Mons. Ambassadeur? quod he, Mons. de Winchester ou est il? Je l'ay ouy dire qu'il est venu par de ça, je vous prie ou s'en va il?” Said our ambassador with the Emperor wished to return, and so Winchester and Sir Henry Knevet replace him, considering that the Emperor goes to the Diet in Almayn, where the matter of the lady Anne of Cleves may be spoken of, and it would be meet to have a man that knew the truth of the matter. Knevet being a young man of good qualities was, I heard, only sent to be trained awhile with the said bishop “and after to remain there as lieger.” He agreed that that was right, and seemed really satisfied. If the French king or he had misliked Winchester's going “I should neither have been holp up ne down the bench” nor seen the gallery. Perceived the King liked not what the Bishop's ambassador was saying to him; on parting with whom he said, “Cella, cella; je ne feray rieus.” Heard afterwards it was about the marriage of Mons. de Guyse's son with the Bp.'s niece, which has cooled. Yesterday the Dolphin came to Court in great triumph, though yet very lean and low. Mellune, 17 Nov. Signed.
12. Add. Endd.
18 Nov. 277. The Privy Council.
P C. P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 18 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business):—Letters of appearance sent to Sir John Seintclo and Wm. Seintclo, his son and heir, to appear and answer objections by Thos. Kemys.
18 Nov. 278. Sir Wm. Eure to the Privy Council.
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 135.
B. M.
No. 58.
Has received, 18 Nov., their letter dated the 13th, signifying that it was said that the writer had information of provision of close carts and yokes, and of a proclamation by the king of Scots forbidding his subjects to bring victuals to Berwick, and that he had not advertised the King. Wrote to the King by Robt. Horseley, of the retinue of Berwick, 4 Oct., of all the premises. Encloses copy. In haste, 18 Nov. Signed.
1. Sealed with the letters W. T. Add. Endd.
Ib., f. 137. ii. Copy of No. 120.
P. 1.
18 Nov. 279. James V. to Henry VIII.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi.,
B. M.
Credence for Sir John Campbel, of Lundy, whom he sends to declare “sik thingis as ryndis to ye weill of ws baicht, rest and tranquillite of oure realmes and liegis.” Halyrudhous, 18 Nov. 28 James V.
Copy, p. 1.
19 Nov. 280. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.,
Meeting at Windsor, 19 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Gt. Admiral, Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business: —Letter written to the President of the Welsh Council and Sir Nic. Hare in the same form as that sent to them on 16 Oct.
19 Nov. 281. Irish Coins.
Harl., 442,
f. 165.
B. M.
Writ to the mayor aud sheriffs of London to make proclamation against the importation and uttering of the Irish groats and “pence of twopence,” which were coined for the maintenance of the King's army in Ireland and the use of his subjects there; on pain of forfeiture of treble the value of the coins. Westminster, 19 Nov. 32 Hen. VIII.
Modern copy, pp. 2.
Titus B. xi.
B. M.
2. Another copy, addressed to the sheriff of Hants.
Modern copy, p. 1.
Lamb. 608,
f. 73.
3. Another copy, addressed to the sheriff of Hants.
Pp. 2. See Carew Calendar, No. 151.
19 Nov. 282. Pate to the Council.
R. O.
St. P. viii.,
The Emperor went from Yper to Cassell on the 13th inst., thence, next day, to Gravelines, and next day to St. Odemers, where he inspected the fortifications. Yesterday he went to Aerre, and thence goes to Bethune and Arras, where the card, of Loren and Mons. de Vandome will meet him. Mr. Halle, a spear of Calais, was in Court these days past, entertained by the Great Master, and introduced by him to the Emperor, who thanked him for his services against the Frenchmen. I refer to his report as less tedious than my writing. The ambassador of Portugal sent to visit me and with a desire that he might “come kiss mine hands” in the next town. No certain news of what the prince of Melfi and viceroy of Sicily have done in Africa. Certain gentlemen of France, borderers about Boulogne, have been to see the Emperor, who has demanded of the towns hereabouts 56,000 frs. a year for six years, and requires an answer at Arras on the 22nd. Encloses the ordinances (fn. 11) made at Brussels. This town made me an honest present of wine. St. Odemers, 19 Nov. Signed.
1. Add. Endd.
20 Nov. 283. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Windsor, 20 Nov. Present: Suffolk, Gt. Chamb., Durham, Lord Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Letter to Sir Edw. Wootton, that the King sent his patent of treasurership of Calais, reserving the disposition of 300l. and nomination of the artificers.


  • 1. Dr. Carne.
  • 2. See Vol. XIV., under “Henry VIII.” in index.
  • 3. Brother of Jaques Granada of the King's stable.
  • 4. Brady gives the name as Thady Reynolds, and the date as 15 Nov.Episc. Succ., II. 351.
  • 5. Donald O'Bechau, who had heen appointed in July. See Vol. XV., No. 892.
  • 6. “Named by the Council” in margin in Cusake's hand.
  • 7. Misread “Makankan” in St. P.
  • 8. In the spring of 1539. Vol. XIV.
  • 9. The Cowbridge.
  • 10. Stephen a Haschenberg.
  • 11. See No. 153.