Henry VIII: October 1541, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 16, 1540-1541. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1898.

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October 1541, 11–20

11 Oct. 1249. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Mr. Tourner's house at Bishop's Norton, 11 Oct. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:— Letters sent to Sir Thos. Wharton to defer executing a Scottishman.
[11 Oct.] 1250. John Heron to Ellerker and Bowes.
Add. MS.
f. 238.
B. M.
No. 92(1).
Perceives they desire news of Redisdaill and Tendill. On Thursday night last they were in Cavers, where they did small hurt, and in Denom, where they took all cattle and insight, killed two men and burnt three houses; bnt the writer thought that too small a matter to write of. The head men have promised to satisfy him on Wednesday night next. Harbottill, Tuesday.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: “Minute of two letters from John Heron to Sir Ralph Ellerkar and Sir Robert Bowes xiiijo Octob., &c.”
11 Oct. 1251. James V to Henry VIII.
R. O. Thinks his uncle, who is travelling in these North parts so far from the places where he is accustomed to take his pleasure, should participate of what this realm affords convenient for the season; and therefore sends certain falcons of good kind by Adam Logan, the bearer, his servitor. Reserves further matters to the coming of his ambassadors “quhilk salbe in all gudlie haist.” (fn. 1) Aberdeen, 11 Oct. 29 James V. Signed.
Broadsheet, p.
1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1541.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi.
B. M.
2. Contemporary copy of the preceding.
P. 1.
11 Oct. 1252. Don Francisco Manrique to Charles V.
Add. 28,593,
f. 31.
B. M.
The Queen of France's thanks for information of the Emperor's intended journey. She has been very ill and near death, but is now better. His journey to the Court at Lyons. The Emperor's determination to sail to Algiers. Francis' excuses for having raised men. Francis has ordered release of all imperial prisoners, except the bp. of Valencia. Cannot wait in France till they are all released. Francis promised not to break truce immediately, giving the Emperor time to look out for Fragoso and Rincon, and for the criminals in whose hands they may still be. The King will go this winter to Fontainebleau. At Lyons he mustered the gentlemen of the household who are now returning home. The Turk intends wintering in Hungary. Leaves for Spain this day. Lyons, 11 Oct. 1541.
P.S.—News of Fragoso's dead body being found.
Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 8. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 197.
12 Oct. 1253. Marillac to Francis I.
R. O.
Kaulek, 347.
(The whole
His last from York will have shown that the King of Scotland was no longer expected. The English were not pleased, considering the bruit of it and their preparations, and could not refrain from now and then showing their indignation, blaming the prelates of Scotland, whom they call the King's tutors. The common people thought Francis had prevented the interview; but those who knew that the said King had no time to get an answer from Francis showed no sign of sharing that opinion, and upon the departure from York were more familiar with Marillac than they had ever been, insomuch that, after all the young milords and notable lords of the Court had visited him, the dukes of Norfolk and Suffolk, lords Privy Seal and Admiral and all the rest of the Council came to sup with him, to show their master's friendship for Francis.
Upon the departure from York came news of the rout of the king of Romans in Hungary; and this King sent for Marillac and asked if he had heard of it. Replied then No. Three days later received what Francis wrote of it, which, upon comparison, agreed with their news. Followed this King to Lincoln, when, the Court being dispersed and Norfolk and other notable men gone home, he came on hither, by the King's advice, who will be here in eight days. Norfolk said they were revoking lord William, to employ him elsewhere. A secretary of the Council, named Paget, is to replace him, and is said to have already left, but Marillac has not verified this, having only arrived here yesterday. He was formerly in France and Italy, to report what was doing, and the English think they need such a minister now when the times seem disposed to change and war, and lord William has been very slow in sending news.
Gives a minute description of Lady Mary, in which he has had the assistance of a woman who has served in her chamber from her infancy, and is married to a Frenchman who is familiar with all the French ambassadors. She is of middle stature, and is in face like her father, especially about the mouth, but has a voice more manlike, for a woman, than he has for a man. To judge by portraits, her neck is like her mother's. With a fresh complexion she looks not past 18 or 20 although she is 24. Her beauty is mediocre, and it may be said that she is one of the belles of this Court, (fn. 2) She is active, and apparently not delicate, loving morning exercise and walking often two or three miles. She speaks and writes French well. Saw letters of hers in French, written to the Emperor's ambassador in the time of her “ennuy.” She understands Latin and enjoys books of “lettres humaines,” which were her solace in sleepless nights at the time she was molested. She delights in music and plays the spinnet “singulièrement.” In conversation, together with sweetness and benignity, she is prudent and reserved. The chamber woman says that when her mother was first repudiated she was sick with “ennuy,” but, on being visited and comforted by the King, soon recovered and has had no such illness since. Her physician and apothecary are Spaniards, and to enquire of them would arouse suspicion; but the apothecary once told Marillac that he never gave her anything but light things, “comme casses, conserves et semblables drogues,” which she took more often because it was her father's command than because she needed them. The chamber woman thinks her of a disposition to have children soon, if married. Has tried to get a portrait of her, but no painter dare attempt it without the King's command.
The marriage has not been again spoken of because of the obstacle mentioned in his last letters from York. (fn. 3) Docketed (fn. 4) : sent by Denis.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 7. Headed: London, 12 Oct. 1541.
12 Oct. 1254. Attainted Lands.
R. O. Receipt by Hen. Arthyngton, 12 Oct. 33 Hen. VIII., from Tristram Teshe, receiver of attainted lands in the North, of 8l. 10s. for the dower of his wife Elizabeth, out of the lands late of Wm. Lee, attainted.
Hol., p. 1.
13 Oct. 1255. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Note, that at Mr. Monson's house, (fn. 5) 12 Oct., the Council sat not.
Meeting at Nocton, 13 Oct. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Warrant sent to the captain of Carlisle for delivery of 24 bows and sheaves of arrows.
13 Oct. 1256. Henry VIII. to the Bp. of Carlisle.
Add. MS.
6,362, f. 1.
B. M.
P.C.P., vii.
Being advertised by Sir Thomas Wharton, deputy warder of the West Marches, that it is requisite to have the ditch about the castle of Beaucastle cast deeper, and a barbican made there, at a cost of 40l. orders him, out of the royal treasure in his hands, to appoint, with Wharton's advice, some substantial person to do the work. Our manor of Nocton, 13 Oct. 33 Hen. VIII. Signed with a stamp and sealed.
Countersigned by the earls of Southampton and Sussex, and by Wriothesley, Gage and Sir Ant. Wingfield.
1. Add.
14 Oct. 1257. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Sleaford, 14 Oct. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Comptroller, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Antonio Marques, sent from the King of Portugal for a licence to convey wheat into Portugal, had for answer that if the said King in his next navigation to Calicut would admit some Englishman of the King's appointment, to adventure for provision of spice, “notwithstanding the dearth and the refusal herein made both to the Emperor and the French king, yet should his request be [consi]dered.” He replied that he could not answer this, but would write to his master.
14 Oct. 1258. Bp. Bonner to Richard Clonie, “literato,” his Apparitor General.
Foxe, Actes
and Mon., 684
(Day's ed.)
In pursuance of Royal letters received on the 13 Oct. inst., (fn. 6) commands him to warn all rectors and vicars of London dioc. to make inquiry on these two articles, (1) whether there be continued any superstition, hypocrisy or abuse within their cures contrary to ordinances, and (2) whether they have in their church or parish “any shrines, covering of shrines, tables of feigned miracles, pilgrimages, images and bones resorted and offered unto, and other monuments and things wherewith the people have been illuded, or any offering or setting up of lights,” &c., not permitted by the King's injunctions. Return to be made by the eve of S.S. Simon and Jude. St. Paul's, London, 14 Oct. 1541, 2 transl.
Lat. The two articles in English.
14 Oct. 1259. John Heron to [Ellerker and Bowes.] (fn. 7)
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 237.
B. M.
Papers, No.
92 (2).
Since he wrote, Tendill and Redesdaill have burnt two towns at the head of Tewydaill, called Ormston and Orchartt, on Wednesday night, 12th inst., taken the cattle and killed three men. Intended them to have gone in Ledirsdaill, but cannot bring that to pass unless he go himself, and then he is in great doubt whether they would prove themselves honest men. Harbottill, Friday, 14 Oct.
On Tuesday night last, Ledirsdaill burnt Little Whettyngton, Mr. Carnanabis (sic) town within a mile of Haulton.
Hol., p. 1.
14 Oct. 1260. Baron Jeorjus ab Heideck to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
Gives an account of the defeat of the Christian army by the Turks at Buda. The King has sent to the Turk to ask a truce until St. George's day next, and meanwhile the states of the Empire will meet at Spire, 30 Jan., to consult about a three years' war with the Turk. The Emperor, with 35,000 men drawn from Germany, Italy, Spain, Naples and Sicily, has gone to Africa to destroy a town, belonging to the White Moor, which has continually harassed Naples and Sicily. The long strife between Ulric of Wirtemberg and dukes William and Lewis of Bavaria is happily appeased. Neuburg, 14 Oct. '41. Signed.
Lat., p.
1. Add. Endd.
15 Oct. 1261. The Council in London to the Council with the King.
R. O.
St. P., i.
Have received theirs of the 10th. Are sorry that their proceedings touching the thieves that would have robbed Windsor Castle are ill taken. Upon information given by the bailiff of the Clynk to the earl of Hertford, the Earl laid secret watch both within and without the Castle, and the thieves were apprehended in their return from doing their attemptate, “which they could not perform by reason of the strength of the Castle gate.” They were brought before the Council, and committed to the Tower, and there examined again by Hertford and St. John, under threat of torture. As the lieutenant of the Tower said he could not conveniently lodge them severally, they were sent thence to Newgate and other prisons, but shall forthwith be removed back to the Tower. Elles is not executed, nor was any execution intended until the King's pleasure should be known. Send the examinations. Have just learnt that Oxbridge, one of their confederates, is at Calais, and have sent to apprehend him. The piercers, augers, saws, and other tools are “common sale ware” of smiths and ironmongers, and part were delivered to them by Oteley, the waterman, who disclosed the matter to the bailiff of the Clynk.
As for the money, the four tellers of the Receipt had only 1,600l.; the other 2,540l. was obtained from Mr. Gostwyke. Desire warrants for their discharge, and will send the money to Calais forthwith. Westm., 15 Oct.
P.S. in Sadler's hand (fn. 8) :—Would be glad to learn where the King intends to keep the feast of All Saints. Signed by Audeley, Hertford, Bonner, lords Wyndesore and St. John, and Ralph Sadleyr.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1541.
15 Oct. 1262. Shrines and Images.
iii. 857.
Works, 490.
Mandate by abp. Cranmer, dated Lambeth, 15 Oct. 1541, consec. 9, to Ric. Liell, LL.D., dean of the deaneries of Shoreham, Croydon, Bocking, Risburghe, Terringe, and Pageham, to charge the clergy in his deaneries to carry out the effect of the King's letters missive, attested by the Council, which the Abp. has received, and to certify, before the end of November next, what he has done.
[The letters missive, as embodied in the above]:—Heretofore perceiving sundry superstitions used by his people, against God's Word, the King caused “the images and bones of such as they resorted and offered unto, with the ornaments of the same, and all such writings and monuments of feigned miracles wherewith they were illuded, to be taken away,” and commanded that no offering or setting of lights or candles should be suffered except to the Blessed Sacrament. Has lately learnt that shrines, covering of shrines and monuments of such things yet remain in sundry places, and therefore commands him forthwith to search his cathedral church, and if any such thing remains, to take it away; and also to take order with the clergy of his diocese to do the like. Hull, 4 Oct. 34 (sic) Hen. VIII. Signed by Southampton, Sussex, Russell, Tunstall, Browne, Wingfield, and Gage.
From Cranmer's Register.
15 Oct. 1263. Sir Wm. Eure and Others to Henry VIII.
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 233,
B. M.
No. 91.
On coming into Northumberland, Ellerker and Bowes wrote to the deputy wardens of these marches, John Herone, Robt. Collingwode, and John Horseley, the commissioners joined with them, to meet them at Alnwick, 5 Oct. Devised first for the expulsion of aliens from the nine wards of Northumberland, and expect it to be done before 4 Nov., when they appointed to meet at Alnwick, to take order for the farms and tenements in occupation of such aliens. Describe how, to view the frontier, they went up the Tweed to Ryden burn mouth, and so to the utter march of the East Marches, on their way destroying all corn which the Scots had sown on English ground. The Scots, upon rumour of an army coming to the Borders (although the writers did all they could to make their coming appear peaceful), had withdrawn all their goods and cattle six miles within Scotland, and were keeping watch against invasion. Since they came to Newcastle, the Tynedale and Riddesdale men have twice spoiled goods in West Tividale; and — (blank) Carre, the lord of Cesfurthe's brother, a younger son of the lord of Bukclowghes, Watte Carr, son to Dand Carr of Grayden, and Robt. Carr, son to the lord of Grenehede, with 60 or 80 light young men, have spoiled and burned at Myndrone and Hethepole, minding to provoke war between the realms. However, the lord of Farnyhirste, Scottish warden, has promised redress, and Sir Wm. Eurye has appointed a meeting with him on Thursday next. This Saturday, Sir Cuthbert Ratclyf meets the said Dand Carre of Farnyhirste at a day of truce. Ettaille castle, 15 Oct. Signed: Wyll'm Eure: Rauff Ellerkar: Robert Bowis: Robert Collyengwod.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1541.
15 Oct. 1264. Sir Wm. Eure and Others to Henry VIII.
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 235.
B. M.
No. 92.
Consulted with John Heron at Alnwick, 5 Oct., in presence of the writers and Sir Cuthbert Ratcliff only, how to induce Tyndaile and Riddisdaile men to slaughter some Lydersdaile men, in revenge for the late murder of the Fenwykes. Heron said that unless he went himself he could not induce them to slaughter any of the notable surnames of Lydersdaile, for fear of a deadly feud; but he thought something could be managed at the head of Tyviotdale, upon the water of Rowle and Gedworthe forest. Insisted that it should be done on Lydersdaile, and Heron undertook to compass it. To reassure Lydersdaile, which stood in dread of the company that came with Ellerker and Bowes, the writers withdrew to Berwick. There, hearing that Tynedaile had made two incourses in Scotland, wrote to Heron to know the truth, and received his reply inclosed, (fn. 9) but did not advertise the King, because they hoped he would make some further enterprise. Yesterday he came to them at Etaile castle with information of new attemptates which they caused him to write in the schedule enclosed. Despair of any good to be done by Tyndaile and Riddisdaile, for Heron seems to fear that they would betray him rather than be at deadly feud with Lydersdaile. Ask whether Ellerkar and Bowes, with the gentlemen here, should do some exploit upon these thieves of Liddesdaile, and, if so, how to guard Glendaile and the East Marches, for it is to be doubted that the Scots would, in reply, ride with main force upon them. Etaile castle, 15 Oct. Signed: Wyll'm Eure: Rauff Ellerkar: Robert Bowys.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.
Ib., f. 239. 2. “Enterprises made by Tyndaill and Riddisdale in Scotland since the Fenwykes was killed by Liddisdale men.”—Details of four enterprises on Cale water, Cavers and Denum, Ormstone and the Horschet, and Egerston.
P. 1.
15 Oct. 1265. Juan Vazquez de Molina to Cobos.
Add. 28,593,
f. 35.
B. M.
The Emperor's voyage to Corsica, Sardinia, Menorca, and Mallorca. The Viceroy of Sicily was already in port, and today, 15 Oct., the Spanish galleys not having arrived, it was resolved, with the prince of Melphi's advice, at once to sail to Cartagena. Rejoices at Cobos' recovery from fever. The Emperor will hold Cortez at Seville, and go on to Granada, Valencia, and Monçon, where he will have his son sworn successor to the Crown. After that he will go to Italy in the spring, &c. Mallorca, 15 Oct. 1541.
Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 6. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 198.
16 Oct. 1266. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Note that, at Collyweston, 15 Oct., the Council sat not.
Meeting at Collyweston, 16 Oct. Present: Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Robt. Horsley, priest, and John Horsley and Andrew Sharpe, husbandmen, accused of contemptuous words of the King, because the proof was not clear and the case unimportant, were remitted to the justices of the shire. Letters sent to the Commissioners of Sewers in Kent and Sussex, and also to the Chancellor of Augmentations and Mr. Ric. Pollard, to redubb breaches in Pevensey and Romney marshes. For refusing an award between him and his wife, taken by the duke of Suffolk, — Canon was committed to the Porter's ward.
17 Oct. 1267. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Collyweston, 17 Oct. Present: Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Passport made for a Portugall coming hither on his King's affairs. Cowley, master of the Rolls in Ireland, was examined, but, as time would not serve, was remitted to the lord Chancellor to commit to the Fleet or other ward until the King came to London. Letters despatched to Sir Thos. Wentworth, the bp. of Carlisle, Sir Thos. Wharton, &c. Warrants for 2,540l. and 1,600l. to be sent to Calais.
1268. Robert Cowley to Henry VIII.
R. O. “Here ensue such words as Sir Anthony Saintleger, knight, spake openly in Ireland,” viz., “The King's father at his first entering into England had but a very slender title to the Crown till he married queen Elizabeth.”
Coming hither to declare the above and other the Deputy's abuses, the infinite deceits of the Vice-Treasurer and his accomplices, and his own device for the King's honour and advantage, the writer was, in his absence, indicted, with a view to cast him away before he came to his declaration. Begs for an indifferent hearing before the Chancellor and Council. This practise “was the caste of th'earl of Kildare,” viz., to intimidate such as would accuse him. “Undoubtedly your Highness would marvel to know the jugglings in Ireland. The Deputy, Chancellor, bishop of Dublin, Chief Justice, and Vice-Treasurer, every of them, seek their own profit and pluck fleeces from your Highness, making their hands, thinking all wone ware. God save you excellent Majesty. Your Majesty's most humble orator, Robert Cowley.”
P. 1. Add.
18 Oct. 1269. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Fotheringhay, 18 Oct. Present: Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—The bailey of St. Albans, named — (blank), sent, by the Under-marshal, to St. Albans to be there set in the stocks next market day. The queen of Hungary's answer read, and the book of Guernsey viewed.
18 Oct. 1270. Henry VIII. to Sir Cuthbert Radclyffe.
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 240.
B. M.
No. 93.
Perceives, by his letters to the Council of the 9th inst., that he would know how to answer if the warden of the Middle March of Scotland desire redress for the attemptates now lately done by Tyndall and Riddisdal. Fire and blood have long been referred to the princes and no redress made; and the late doings were begun by the Scots and the King's subjects pressed by sorrow and rage to requite them, so that the King thinks the Scots should stand to their hurts and beware of beginning like matters. Radclyffe shall answer the warden as above, but say that if he will redress things done before and devise for good order hereafter he will gladly join with him. As the King's subjects are now even with the Scots, they shall forbear further enterprises unless the Scots begin, in which case they may have one shrewd turn for another, taking care that they do not surprise the English to their notable damage. This to be kept secret.
Draft corrected by Wriothesley, pp. 3. Endd.: Minute of Sir Cuthbert Ratclif, xviijo Octobr. 1541.
18 Oct. 1271. Aguilar and Granvelle to [Charles V.]
Add. MS.
28,592 f. 216.
B. M.
“Los puntos que resultan de las cartas del marques de Aguilar y mosieur de Grandvella de xviii. de Octobre, 1540.” (fn. 10)
The Pope agrees to contribute men and money for Hungary should the Turk invade it. The confirmation of the Catholic League and the Pope's contribution to it is settled. Reformation of ecclesiastics in Germany. The Council. The truce with France. No hope of an Italian league against France. Abp. of Valencia. French attempts to raise money in Germany and Italy. There is talk of Xatillon going to Portugal to ask the hand of Doña Maria, on the plea that the Queen her mother wishes for her company. Italian news. The Pope is much pleased that the Emperor has named the Nuncio Poggio for the bpric. of Tropea. (fn. 11)
Spanish. Modern copy from Simancas, pp. 5. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 133.
19 Oct. 1272. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Fotheringhay, 19 Oct. Present: Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Winchester, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Recognisance cited of — Cannon, of — (blank), Ntht., to fulfil an award made by Suffolk touching his wife's allowance. Letters sent “for the ceasing of roads to be made into Scotland.”
19 Oct. 1273. Lord Maxwell to the Laird of Fernyherst.
See No. 1283 (2).
20 Oct. 1274. Henry VIII. to Ellerker and Bowes.
Add. MS.
32,646, f. 251.
B. M.
No. 96.
Received their sundry letters of the 15th, with two advertisements sent them from John Heron, and perceives the good commencement of their commission, (fn. 12) their offer and advice touching Liddersdale, and the untowardness of the Tyndalles and Riddesdalles. Approves their proceedings and takes their offer thankfully; but, as his subjects have now meetly well requited the Scots, has written to Wharton and Heron to surcease further attemptates unless the Scots begin. They shall stay there the full two months, even though their commission be finished, and, if they see the Scots intend any further business, secretly arrange to let their men slip and join the country in defence and offence, so that they make but one incourse for another. If their presence seems necessary for defence, they shall send due notice and remain there longer than the two months.
Draft, pp. 5. Endd.: Minute to Sir Ralph Ellarkar and Sir Robert Bowes, xxo (fn. 13) Octobr. 1541.


  • 1. See No. 1240.
  • 2. Kaulek suggests that a negative is omitted either in the first or second part of this sentence, and that Marillac must have meant either that her beauty was not mediocre or that she was not one of the belles of this Court. But may he not have meant that the beauties of the English court were commonplace?
  • 3. No. 1208.
  • 4. Omitted in the transcript.
  • 5. William Monson of Ingoldby is mentioned in Vol. XV. and in No. 1395 (22) of this volume. Ingoldby is six miles north-west of Lincoln.
  • 6. See Nos. 1233 and 1262.
  • 7. See No. 1264.
  • 8. The whole letter is not in Sadler's hand, as stated in the State Papers.
  • 9. See No. 1250. Apparently No. 1259, which is not addressed, was not despatched, as the writer himself carried the news.
  • 10. So in the transcript, but the contents show the real date to be 1541. The place from which the original letter was written is not given, but, if the date 18 Oct. be correct, it must have been Lucca, which the Pope only proposed to leave on the 21st. See No. 1222. According to Baronius he remained there a few days after the Emperor had left, which he did on the 18th, the date of this letter. Aguilar and Granvelle did not go with him, but accompanied the Pope to Rome.
  • 11. According to Gams he was appointed on the 8 Oct. 1541.
  • 12. See No. 1205.
  • 13. Misread “xxv” in Hamilton Papers.