Henry VIII: October 1542, 1-5

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 17, 1542. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1900.

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'Henry VIII: October 1542, 1-5', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 17, 1542, (London, 1900) pp. 511-521. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol17/pp511-521 [accessed 4 March 2024]


October 1542, 1-5

1 Oct.
Harl. MS. 6,074 f. 59. B. M.
884. O'Neil, Earl Of Tyrone.
Account of the creation of O'Neale as earl of Tyrone, at Greenwich on Sunday 1 Oct 34 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2, in a book with parchment leaves, bearing at the beginning the signature "G. Dethick, alias Garter."
Titus B. XI. 386. B. M. 2. Modern copy, from "the book made by Sir Thomas Wriothesley, Garter," apparently the preceding.
P. 1.
Lamb. MS. 608 f. 123. 3. Another modern copy, apparently derived from 2.
P. 1. See Carew Calendar, No. 174.
1 Oct.
Lamb. MS. 603 f. 75b.
885. O'Neil, Earl Of Tyrone.
Letters patent (fn. 1) creating Con O'Nele earl of Tyrone, with remainder to his son Matthew, alias Feardourghe, O'Nele and his heirs male. To hold his lands in knight service under certain conditions (specified in English). The heir apparent to the earl to bear the title baron of Duncannon. Witnesses, Cranmer, Audeley, Oxford, Hertford, Gardiner, Lisle, Russell, Gage, Sir Ant. Wingfield, Wriothesley, and Sadler. Greenwich, 1 Oct. 34 Hen. VIII.
Lat. Contemporary copy, pp. 3. See Carew Calendar, No. 173. With copy of the Articles of Submission (see No. 832), subjoined.
Ib. f. 14. 2. Later copy, from the enrolment, certified by "Ja. Stanyhurst."
Pp. 3.
Lamb. MS. 608 f. 33b. 3. Modern copy, with the articles subjoined in another hand.
Pp. 2.
Titus B. XI. 379. B. M. 4. Another modern copy, pp. 3; with the articles subjoined, p. 1.
1 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 2. Hamilton Papers, No. 191.
886. The Privy Council to the Commissioners at York.
Have received their letters of Friday last. The King marvels that the ordnance, etc., is not arrived at Berwick, but doubts not but God will frame all things prosperously in time. As to Browne's tarrying for the King of Scots; when he has, with Norfolk and Durham, viewed Berwick and Wark, and done the rest as instructed, he may return with them to the King. And, as the King of Scots should be honorably received, and the King intends to defray his whole charges if he come in post, they are to consider what that charge will amount to and leave money and appoint persons to make preparation, and three or four cartloads of hangings, plate, &c., shall be sent down. They shall take order for Rutland, as lord warden, with the earls of Westmoreland and Cumberland, to meet him, and the two earls to accompany him to York, where the whole Council, with lord Latymer, shall again meet him. Westmoreland shall then return home and Cumberland, "because he is young," attend him to Huntingdon, where another company of noblemen shall meet him.
Where the Scottish ambassadors' instructions stated that it would touch their King's honor to come further than York; they are to be asked why it should touch his honor more to repair to his uncle at London than it did to go by sea into France to the French king.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 7. Endd. : Minute to my l. Norff., my l. P.S., the bp. of Durham, and Sir Ant. Browne, primo Octob. ao xxxiiijo.
Harl. MS. 6,989 f. 101. B. M. 2. Original letter of which the preceding is the draft. Dated Greenwich, 1 Oct. Signed by Cranmer, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wingfield, Wriothesley, and Sadler.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : Ebor., 3 Octobris, de Con. du Roy.
1 Oct.
Baronius, XXXIII., 21.
887. Robert Vauchop to the Card. Of St. Cross.
Extract from a letter showing difficulties alleged in Germany against attending the Council of Trent. Saltzburg, 1 Oct. 1542.
2 Oct.
Dasent's A.P.C., 40.
888. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Greenwich, 1 Oct. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley, Sadler. No business recorded.
At Greenwich, 2 Oct. Present : as above. Business :Recognisance (cited) of John Haynes, of London, to attend daily. The keeper of Ludgate examined of his contention with Hans van Fremat touching the escape of a prisoner.
2 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 6. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 192.
889. The Privy Council to the Commissioners at York.
Have received theirs of 30 Sept., enclosing a letter from Sir Geo. Lawson, by which the King is glad to see that the grain, etc., out of Norfolk and Suffolk, is arrived. The King notes the behaviour of the Scots in taking the carts from Wark, and the slackness of Car in suffering it, and would have it laid to the ambassadors which part now keeps best promise. Hearing that they rig out at Dieppe 16 good ships, one of 300 [tons], and the least of 80 [tons], the King has sent command to all ports in these parts that no ships go forth until his further pleasure. Enclose the minute that Norfolk may take like order there.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 3. Endd. : Minute to my 1. of Norff., my 1. P.S., the bp. of Durham and Sir Ant. Browne, ijo October. ao xxxiiijo.
Harl. MS. 6,989 f. 103. B. M. 2. Original letter, of which the preceding is the draft. Dated Greenwich, 2 Oct. Signed by Cranmer, [Hertfo]rd, Winchester, Wingfield, Sadler and perhaps by others, whose signatures are lost.
P. 1. Mutilated. Endd. : Ebor., 4 Octobris, du Conceil du Roy.
2 Oct.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II. No. 66.]
890. Chapuys to the Queen Of Hungary.
This morning received her letters of the 23rd inst., with the packet for the Emperor, which was forthwith sent to Bristol, to reach Fallaix if possible, and, if not, to be carried into Spain by a merchant, who is half resolved to go thither on business.
After dinner to-day, I was with the King, who said that the Almains mentioned in your letters would be very welcome here, and he thought you would have no great need of Almains, at least to raise the siege of Parpignan, for the French, after divers losses by sallies of the garrison and by cannon shot, have retired, and, being repulsed from the city of Henne and failing in an attempt against Collibre de Portevendrez (?), at the approach of Alva with 15,000 or 16,000 men, including the expected succour from Italy, have withdrawn to a little town called Clarak, 2 or 3 leagues from Parpignan. The French king has sent for engineers to fortify the said place, thinking either to famish Parpignan or constrain the Emperor's army to give him battle in his strength, and was boasting that he desired nothing but battle, and would be content that his only daughter should be a harlot if he might be sure that the Emperor would give him battle; however, this King thinks, with his ambassador in France, that the French king much more desires peace or truce than battle, and he wonders at the French thinking to famish the town, with Spain at its back, when they confess that the Emperor is stronger by sea than they are. To explain affairs there, the King gave Chapuys a map to copy and send to the Queen. The King also said that (having heard from Antwerp that the bp. of Westminster was despatched from the Emperor, and that with him came certain personages on the Emperor's part, and knowing that 14 or 15 ships were arming in great haste at Dieppe) he intended forthwith to send the swiftest ship here to warn them of the French ships, and to steer for the Irish Channel. As to Scotland the King told me that the Scottish ambassadors appeared colder since they had answer from their master, and would not offer that their master should come further than York, and that not before the Queen of Scots's confinement. He will not accept these conditions, and, unless, within three days, they speak otherwise, the English will march to their enterprise. On Chapuys suggesting that the Scots had got wind of the ships that were arming in Dieppe, he answered that his ships kept such good watch that that could not be; and he supposed that the French seek only to hurt him, and they make brags to his ambassador, whom they keep from approching the camp or the Court, but a herald of his has been at Parpignan and learnt the above news, and, moreover, that Orleans was in that quarter, and that a good part of the Clevois and other lanzknechts were going thither.
This lord of Ireland called the Great Nel was yesterday created earl, making the greatest possible homage and obeissance; and, what is stranger, the bishops (fn. 2) who came with him renounced the title and provision which they had from the Pope for their benefices, and accepted all from the King. London, 2 Oct. 1542.
French. Modern transcript from Vienna, pp. 4.
891. Cheke to Gardiner.
Pleads for a relaxation of the edict (fn. 3) as a favour to himself and not as a right. Begins : Quum ea te eruditione ac ingenio esse intelligam. Ends : Dominus Jesus D. tuam nobis diu servet incolumen.
Lat. Printed in S. Haverkamp's Sylloge Altera, pp. 458-463, and in Cheke's De Pronunciatione (edit. 1555), pp. 339-45.
2 Oct. 892. Gardiner to Cheke.
Would accede to his earnest request if it were possible; but points out that to abrogate, for the sake of an individual, an edict (fn. 3) made for the public good, would argue too much inconsistency in a chancellor. Granucii, postridie Cal. Oct.
Lat. Printed in S. Haverkamp's. Sylloge Altera, pp. 464-468, and in Cheke's De Pronunciatione (edit. 1555), pp. 345-9.
2 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 8. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 193.
893. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Received the King's letters and commission yesterday. Perceive that if the prisoners in Scotland are not immediately delivered the army is to proceed; but nothing is heard of the ships of war, or of the others with ordnance, beer, coopers' work, &c., from London, save only of one with 300 qr. of wheat. Time will be required for the coopers to work and for baking and brewing; and to proceed to Newcastle before the arrival of these things would needlessly consume the victual there. Yesterday, communed with the ambassadors touching depredations by the King's naughty subjects of Tynedale and Riddisdale and the men of Liddersdale. They said it would never be well until the two Princes met and took order for these naughty people who, for their own safety, do all they can to let the meeting. Perceive they have no doubt but that their master will agree to come to such place as the King appoints, and that the prisoners shall be delivered as soon as the capitulation is past, but not before. Have deferred the setting forth of the army from the 11th to the 15th inst. Touching the isles of Shotlande and Orkeney; are informed that Shotland is so distant that Englishmen who go yearly to Iceland dare not tarry on those coasts after St. James' tide. They must pass through the Pentley Frith, the most dangerous place in Christendom, and Scottishmen who know it best dare not venture to pass it at this season. Orkeney is also very dangerous and full of rocks, the people live by fishing and have little to devastate save oats and a few beasts, which are so wild that they can only be taken by dogs. The enterprise would not quit the 10th part of its cost, besides the danger of losing the ships, and they dare not attempt it unless the Council send men to instruct them. Beg to know the King's pleasure by Friday next. York, 2 Oct., 2 p.m. Signed by Norfolk, Southampton, Durham, and Browne.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
2 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 10. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 194.
894. Norfolk to Winchester and Wriothesley.
Desires them to be a buckler of defence if the King is not content with the doings here. Cannot rule the winds, and without the coming of the ships of war with the provision from London it were folly to set forward, so that this delay of four days must turn to the King's profit, as explained in their common letter. To-morrow being the day appointed for delivery of money for conduct and coats, we will stay delivery of conduct money till we see how we do with the ambassadors. If there was bread and drink at Berwick sufficient to bring us to Edinburgh, as there is not of drink the fourth part, unless the ships were come with sufficient to bring us home it were folly to go thitherwards. York, 2 Oct., 2 p.m. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
2 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 26. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 198 (1).
895. Sir Wm. Evers and Sir Geo. Lawson to Norfolk.
Reply to his letter that, on Saturday last, arrived (besides the ships and crayers with corn and cheese before) 3 ships with ordnance, artillery and tents from London, 1 ship with costrelles and coopers' necessaries, 3 ships with timber and logs from Newcastle, 4 ships with corn and cheese from London and Norfolk, and 5 ships with corn to be sold in the market; making in all in this haven 33 ships and crayers. At Holly Elande are eight ships of war, viz.The Small Galley, Cary, captain, the Small Bark, Parker, captain, the George Bonaventure, Jenny, captain, the John Evangelist, Nytygate, (fn. 4) captain, the Matthew of Hull, Fowbery, captain, the Trinity of Hull, Thwaytes, captain, the first prize that was taken, whereof Chamberleyne is captain, and the Dragon, Armorer, captain. Also at Elande are 11 ships that brought men and corn.
Touching affairs Evers has certified the lord Warden. Berwick, 2 Oct. Signed : Wyll'm Eure : George Lawson.
P. 1. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo. Ebor., 4 Oct., Sir George Lawson.
2 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 21. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 197 (1).
896. Angus to Norfolk.
Thanks for forwarding a letter from his daughter Margaret, and for Norfolk's goodness to her. The King of Scotland and part of his realm fear the coming of our master's army, and will refuse nothing if it come forward, but are in good hope of peace. The earl of Murray, the King's bastard brother, has, by advice of the bishops and Churchmen, reproached the King for his gentle offers to the King our master; whereat the King, being offended, has left his Council in Edinburgh and come to Dunbar castle. Doubts this, but the fact is that the King has been these four days at Dunbar and Tantallon castles providing for their defence. They speak of peace and provide for war, like wise men; but they are in great fear, knowing that they cannot resist the King's army. Begs that, if the King accepts the King of Scots and stays this business, he and his house may be restored to their lands. His brother desires to remind Norfolk that the laird of Drumlanrig longs for his answer from the King. Asks when Norfolk is coming to Newcastle, that he may wait on him. Encloses a letter for his daughter Margaret. Berwick, 2 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo. Ebor., 4 Oct. Anguysshe. On the back in Norfolk's hand : "iijml vijo viij."
3 Oct.
Dasent's A.P.C., 40.
897. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Greenwich, 3 Oct. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler, Dacres. Business :Mr. Wiatt and Mr. Tate appointed to conduct the earl of Tirone, Sir Dole Guineys, Sir Arthur Guineys, and an Irish bishop, (fn. 5) the morrow after, to do their duties to the Prince.

R. O.
898. The Privy Council to the Archbishop Of York.
Minding to have the King's title to the realm of Scotland more plainly set forth to the world, "that the justness of our quarrel and demand may appear, we have appointed certain learned men to travail in the same; (fn. 6) and, for because the archbishops of York hath in times past had jurisdiction over all the bishops of Scotland, we do not doubt but there is very old, ancient and authentical monuments of the superiority of the same see over them (if there be good and diligent search) to be found in your old registers and ancient places of keeping of such writings," this shall be to require you, on the King's behalf, to have all such writings as make for the King's title sought out "and examined by your chancellor, D. (blank) and other such learned men as you shall appoint thereto," and certify us with all expedition.

St. P. V. 212.
ii. The Same to the Bishop Of [Durham].
After the words "to travail in the same" in i. occurs a mark in the original, indicating a variation in the text for another letter in a form given below, viz., "and forbicause we know that your lordship in times past hath taken some pains in the same thing," we pray you to search your old registers and ancient places where you think anything may be found for the clearer declaration of the King's title; and to certify us thereof, and also signify to us what "charters and monuments for that purpose you have seen, and where the same are to be sought for."
[The letter in this form, which is evidently the draft of a second letter to some other bishop, is printed in the State Papers as if intended for the Archbishop, and the continuation given in i. entirely ignored.]
Corrected draft, p. 1. Endd. : "[3o Octobris], (fn. 7) M. letters to th'archbishop of York and (blank)."
Calig. B. VII. 289. B. M. 2. Notes and extracts, apparently taken from Durham records (no doubt in pursuance of ii.), to show the dependence of the Kings of Scotland upon the Crown of England, giving an account of various wars and other proceedings between the years 1093 and 1189, including copies of the Donation of Coldingham by King Edgar of Scotland in 1097, with its confirmation by King William II. of England, and of a grant of liberties by King Richard I. to the Kings of Scotland.
Latin, pp. 8.
Ib. 322. 3. Copy (perhaps made in continuation of the preceding) of a mandate, dated Westm. 9 July 1291, by King Edward I., to the prior and convent of Durham to enter in their chronicles copies (recited) of letters remaining in the King's treasury, viz. (1) An acknowledgment by "Florens Counte de Hoylaund, Robert de Brus," &c. [See Rymer III. 88 the names here are very inaccurately given], of Edward I.'s suzerainty over Scotland, and submission of their claims to his arbitration; dated Norham, Tuesday after Ascension 1291. (2) Grant by the same claimants to Edw. I. of the custody of all the castles of Scotland until he gives his decision; dated Norham, Wednesday after Ascension 1291. [See Rymer, ib.]
P. 1. Part Lat. and part French. Endd. in a later hand : "Title of Kynges of England to ye realme [of] Scotland proved by certain wrytyng[es] sought out by Cuthbert B. of [Durham], j. E. 6."
3 Oct.
Harl. MS. 6,989 f. 104. B. M.
899. The Privy Council to [the Commissioners at York].
Since it appears, by their last letters, that they hear nothing of the ships of war which, as shown by the copy of John Cary's letter to them, were long before at Skarbourgh, they are to send along the coast to search where they be become. As the time approaches for their enterprise to be put in ure, unless they agree with the Scots, if the King's ships are unlike for lack of wind to reach Berwick in time they must essay whether the munition in them may be conveyed thither by land, and if possible the beer also. Considering the great preparation of ships out of Depe and those parts of France, it were not amiss to man the hulks there and join them with the King's navy. Greenwich, 3 Oct. Signed by Cranmer, Audeley, Winchester, Wriothesley, and Robert Dacres.
In Wriothesley's hand, pp. 2. Endd. : Ebor., v. Octobris, a Cono R. Fly leaf with address gone.
3 Oct.
Add. MS. 5,754 f. 3. B. M.
900. War Preparations.
Norfolk's warrant to Sir John Herryngton, treasurer of the Wars.
1. To pay 20l. 3s. 4d. to John Atherton for coats of 121 men at 3s. 4d. York, 3 Oct. Signed.
ii. Receipt, same day. Signed by Ryc. Urmeston.
P. 1.
Ib. f. 13. B. M. 2. To pay Sir Wm. Mulleneuxe 63l. 6s. 8d. for coats of 380 men. York, 3 Oct. Signed.
ii. Receipt, same day. Signed : Henr' Tarleton.
P. 1.
Ib. f. 17. B. M. 3. To pay Germane Poolle 3l. for coats of 18 men. York, 3 Oct. Signed.
ii. Receipt, 3 Oct. 34 Hen. VIII. Signed : Chrystofr Smythe.
P. 1.
3 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 12. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 195.
901. Edw. Shelley to Wriothesley.
Has delivered to Sir John Harrington, by several warrants of Norfolk and others of the King's Council, 60,000l., save 500l. which they commanded him to carry to Berwick, with the books received from Wriothesley's servant, Wm. Honnyng. Received at Morpeth a book of Honnyng's declaration of money received from him, which he will peruse and copy and then send to Harrington. Neither biscuit nor beer is come from London. Sir Geo. Lawson has brewed 400 barrels and 200 costrelles of beer and baked 8,000 penny loaves, and daily helps the garrison with bread and beer, because of the lack here. He fears lack of millage. Berwick, 3 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
4 Oct.
Dasent's A.P.C., 41.
902. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Greenwich, 4 Oct. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler, Dacres. Business :Sir Rog. Townesende having sent a lewd rhyme devised in the name of a Scot, letters were written to him to try out the author and furtherers of it. Upon an action, in the court of Odiham, by Wm. Dale against Wm. Boneham, one of the Pensioners, a letter was sent to the steward of Odiham to stay the matter until 17 Nov., that Boneham might get leave of absence from Court and provide counsel. Letter written to the Deputy of Calais to send a letter sent to him from the captain of Dieppe touching a truce for fishermen during herring time. Bowyer, having fulfilled the decree in his matter with Neretti and Bremont, was discharged of his recognisance; and Fras. Pellison, broker, remaining in the Cownter, summoned to repair to the Council.
4 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 13. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 196.
903. The Privy Council to the Commissioners at York.
In answer to theirs of the 2nd; the King's meaning is not that they shall press for delivery of the prisoners before they capitulate with the ambassadors for the rest that is now to be agreed upon, but that, after the conclusion, they shall be sure of the delivery before the King's army and garrisons are discharged; lest they make the prisoners hostages for the ambassadors, being of more estimation and revenue than the ambassadors. If the enterprise of the Isles is not meet for this season, they shall devise what enterprise may be done by the navy, by a landing about the Frith or burning the Scots' ships; for it should be to the King's honor to annoy them as much as possible.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 5. Endd. : Minute to my 1. of Norff., my 1. P.S., the bp. of Durham and Sir Ant. Browne, iiijo Octobr. ao xxxiiijo.
Harl. MS. 6,989 f. 105. B. M. 2. Original letter of which the foregoing is the draft. Dated Greenwich, 4 Oct. Signed by Cranmer, Audeley, Hertford, Winchester, Gage, Wingfield, Wriothesley and Sadler.
Pp. 2. Fly leaf with address gone. Endd. : Ebor., 6 Octobris, De Cono R.
4 Oct.
R. O.
904. Wallop to the Council.
His long delay in writing was for want of news. Mons. de Vandosme is beside Messiers with 16,000 foot and 2,000 men of arms, and Mons. d'Orleance was lately coming thither in post. The prince of Orrenge and count of Bure lie within three leagues of them with 50,000 foot and 6,000 horse, the armies being separated by a great river. It is thought that they will not join together this year. Wrote in his last how Orrenge and De Bure won in eight days all that Orleans got in three months. The Great Master and others say that Yvoire still rests in French hands, howbeit the French fled in great fear at the approach of the Emperor's army. Hears that 10,000 Almains, 10,000 Italians and some Spaniards have embarked at Genes for Spain; so that if the Dolphin is still before Perpignan, they will give him battle. The bruit among the French is that he has taken it with loss of 20,000 men on both sides, as the captain of Arde told Wallop, two days ago, when he passed by him to see the King's bulwarks in the Marresse. The captain said Mons. de Beez was come to Bullen and their camp would shortly break up. That of the Burgundians will do the like, and 10,000 Almains shall winter at Arras, Lisle, Ayre, Bittune and St. Omer, while the Almain Clevois on the French parts shall lie in Upper Picardy. The Great Master of Flanders was sent for in diligence from St. Omer four or five days past; "who sent me word by Mr. Vaughan, being then there, at his return would write me of divers great matters to advertise the King's Majesty." Guisnes, 4 Oct. Signed.
P.S.Begs them to forward his letters directed to Norfolk and the lord Privy Seal.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
4 Oct.
R. O. St. P. IX., 189.
905. Bonner to Henry VIII.
Wrote of the publication of war between the Emperor and French king, and the indiction of the Council at Trent with the Emperor's answer thereto, &c., on 11 and 24 Aug., 9, 14 (morning and evening) and 20 Sept., but, as he hears nothing of my lord of Westminster's arrival, encloses copies of the said publication, indiction, and answer. Wrote by Westminster, who was then at Bilbao, the answer of the Emperor and Granvelle to the Council's letter in cipher of 11 Aug.
The 27th ult., Card. Visew, otherwise Michael de Silva, sent from Rome instead of Card. Contareno, who was dead, arrived at Monon. All, except the Nuncio's flock, say he had a very slender reception. He came to solicit peace with France and the setting forth of the Council, and to procure a reconciliation between the King of Portugal and the bishop of Rome and himself; but he returns unsuccessful, being neither suffered to tarry here nor to execute the large authority which the bishop of Rome committed to him. The Emperor "stomacheth" much this war, which he attributes to the French king's reliance on the bishop of Rome. The Emperor's departure from Monon is delayed by the uncertainty whether the French have retired to Narbone or are fortifying themselves between Perpignan and Salsas. Much succour passes from Castilla towards Perpignan. As all Doria's galleys are coming from. Italy and the Prince (fn. 8) is sworn, some think the Emperor will go into Italy to "prevent" the Turks coming next year. He is "a wondrous and secret close man, not opening his determination till the doing, for the most part"; yet all this army assembled in Castilla, and paid in advance, must be intended for some notable exploit.
Speaks of his diets.
This cardinal of Portugal is even now come hither to visit the duke of Camerine, who is sick. He has his despatch and departs in two or three days. Sends in cipher "the chief points of Granvelle's sticking," (fn. 9) as Westminster so much "desired knowledge sundry ways to be given," with other advertisements. Barbastro, 4 Oct.
The French have, by deceit, won Chirasco in Piemont.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
5 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 17. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 197.
906. Commissioners at York to Henry VIII.
Yesterday the herald of Scotland brought answer from the King of Scots to his ambassadors, who thereupon showed us that they had absolute commission for a meeting without restraint of place, affectionately worded; and the delay was because of the opposition of many of their King's Council, who even blamed the ambassadors for desiring this meeting. Nevertheless, their master sent them instructions restraining their commission, viz., that in their open capitulations they shall agree to no further place than York, and not before 15 Jan., but that, if the King could not come so far, he would come to such place as he should desire, for example Huntingdon, and they might bind themselves in articles apart that he would perform it. They showed their master's signed instructions to that effect, and read a letter of the Council. A clause at the end of the instructions forbade them to capitulate further than their instructions allowed. We answered that whereas, before, their commission restricted them to York and their instructions gave them more liberty, now their commission was large, and they were restrained by their instructions, and the liberty given by their former instructions revoked, so that it was evident they meant no plain dealing. And we showed our ample commission, which they liked, and said our instructions were conformable, to treat of a meeting at London before Christmas (which they had said they were sure their master would agree to) and delivery of our prisoners and their remaining as hostages; or else your army must proceed. They regretted that they could not agree to such conditions, saying that touching the prisoners they were referred to their first instructions, which were that, upon your Grace's letter to their master, the prisoners should be restored. We said that, as commissioners instructed to capitulate for them, our request was of more effect than a letter. They said there was no doubt of the delivery when the meeting was agreed upon and the army dissolved; but we insisted that it must be before the army was dissolved. They said that, as for horse and gear, it was impossible to restore it, because in the ruffle it was carried off as well by Englishmen of Tynedale and Redisdale as by Scottishmen, but the prisoners should be delivered without ransom. Finally they showed a letter from the Secretary of Scotland, bidding them to keep to their instructions, for rather than agree further the Council would venture battle. Had much debate, in which the ambassadors protested that they had done their best, but some of their King's Council were sore against this meeting. They showed themselves as sorrowful men as we have seen. The division in their Council is shown by a letter from Angus to Norfolk, sent herewith.
Since this matter cannot take the effect looked for, we will assemble the whole army and go forward; but, considering that the army will not be at Newcastle until the 15th inst., we have given the ambassadors fair words (lest upon their writing desperately the Scots should give the first buffet) agreeing that they should write once again to their master, and we would likewise report to your Highness, although we were sure you would relent nothing. We offered them in writing "the points whereat we stakke," but they said they knew them and returned the paper with a paper of the articles they durst condescend to (enclosed), which they said differed little from our demands. On leaving this town, on Sunday or Monday next, we shall take them in our company in order that they may show what answer their master sends. York, 5 Oct. Signed by Norfolk, Southampton, Durham and Browne.
Pp. 7. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
R. O. St. P., V. 198. 2. Statement by the Scottish ambassadors of the articles they are content to agree upon with the English commissioners, viz. :That their King will meet his uncle at York, 15 Jan. next, provided he have ample safe conduct under his Great Seal and sign manual; that both armies be scaled and order taken for good rule on the Borders; that (the meeting concluded and the armies scaled) the English gentlemen who are prisoners in Scotland shall be delivered, ransom free, according to the credence sent by Ros herald; that the writers remain in England as pledges for the meeting, and, although York is the place appointed, their King will (if advertised that his uncle is coming to keep the day appointed "and may not come to York without hurt of his person") come to any other place.
On a slip of paper attached."My lords," we may not forget to pray you to write to your Sovereign how we have, this day, shown you our master's constant mind to meet with his dearest uncle and the great impediments he has, and to beg him that "sic sobir difference as restis now stope nocht ye said meting, etc."
Pp. 2. Headed : "Thir are ye articulis and hedis yat we are content," &c. Endd. : "Th'articles wherupon the Scottes be content t'agree."
5 Oct.
Add. MS. 5,754 f. 11. B. M.
907. War Preparations.
[Norfolk's] warrant to Sir John Herryngton, treasurer of wars, to pay lord William Haworth 9l. 6s. 8d. for his wages for 28 days, ending 5 Oct., and 8l. 8s. for wages of nine soldiers during that period. York, 5 Oct. 34 Hen. VIII. Not signed.
P. 1.
5 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,648 f. 32. B. M. Hamilton Papers, No. 201 (1).
908. Sir Thos. Wharton to the Commissioners at York.
Since his letters by Mr. Curwen, 60 Scots, in boats, entered Holme lordship on Monday night, 2 Oct., and burnt two houses, "and took two watchers and three other, an old man they did bear away in a sheet." This was done for displeasure that those persons last year obtained a redress of the same Scots. Next night Sandy Armstrang, Andrew Bell and 24 English and Scottish men, took 20 nolt and 5 of the Johnstons in Annerdale, "and slew a fair gelding" and came away without hurt. The night after, Wharton's cousin Thos. Dacre, with Sandy Armstrang, Andrew Bell and Will the Flagon, Scottishmen, Grames and other Englishmen to the number of 30, and six boys, set fire in the Kirk strete of Dumfries, and have, it is thought, burnt 30 houses and much corn. They had to break a house to get fire, and thereby aroused the town, and of the first comers in the street they struck down five tall men, and left five broken spears in them, one of them that Andrew Bell struck being already dead. They came away with two prisoners "without hurt to any of the Englishmen or horse."
These borderers think that when the Commissioners are in Scotland a forray of 400 Scots and others of the West Marches should burn Awyke in West Tevidell, and "lay a bushment for the forray of these marchers," the Englishmen to take their wallets, so that if the enterprise fail they may do another on the morrow. The time to be at the Commissioners' command, and no let to be thereof unless the Scots assemble such a power as to keep these marches occupied with their own defence.
The garrison men of Scotland departed on Saturday and Sunday last from Dumfries, to be ready upon warning. Trusts that most of the Liddersdelles will do good service in Scotland, and that Eskdale and Ewesdale will do no Englishmen displeasure, but spoil their King's sheep going in those countries. Has practised with other Scots, as before the invasion he will report, and meanwhile annoys them for their burning in the King's lordship of "tholme" (the Holme). Carlisle castle, 5 Oct., 2 p.m. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. : "To the right honorable my lord of Norfolk, my lord Privy Seal, my lord of Durem and Sir Antony Browne, knight, in haste." Endd. : Ebor., vjo Octobris, de Tho. Wharton.


  • 1. Enrolled on the Irish Patent Roll, 33-35 Hen. VIII., m. 2. See Morrin's Calendar, p. 85. The enrolment in the English Patent Rolls differs from this document in the text, and is wrong both in the date and in the witnesses, as noticed in No. 881 (1).
  • 2. The bp. of Clogher and George Dowdall, afterwards abp. of Armagh. See No. 924.
  • 3. See No. 327 (3).
  • 4. Misread "Wytygate" in Hamilton Papers.
  • 5. Of Clogher. See No. 924.
  • 6. See ii.
  • 7. These words in a somewhat later hand.
  • 8. Philip.
  • 9. No. 608.